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Hi all,
I see the android development section has a lot of goodies in there and i have had great experience with custom ROMs on my old Galaxy S1. But for the GN4. Is there any value addition to the stock ROM, in the custom builds so far?. Kindly share your feedback on the custom ROMs that you.
P.S: I haven't yet rooted the device (i know) ... can someone kindly send me the easiest way to do that as well.
Thanks a bunch for your time.
As far as rooting go just download the toolkit from the dev section follow the instructions on that thread.
And with the custom roms read the thread try them out every dev adds there own tweets. You can always go back to a backup
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Personally, I read through the pinned threads and unlocked my bootloader, flashed touch CWM and rooted my phone right after getting it. As for custom ROMs - I don't feel the slightest urge as the rom is imho perfect; although I was a keen flasher before I sold my Galaxy S II.
Custom ROM for N4 are very stable and smooth like stock, maybe even more smoother. More feature like editing nav bar and so on. Happy flashing
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Thanks guys. definitely gona root the device, gona make a nand and try a couple of customs out as well.
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As far as rooting go just download the toolkit from the dev section follow the instructions on that thread.
And with the custom roms read the thread try them out every dev adds there own tweets. You can always go back to a backup
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Highly advise against doing this. Prefer yarox method do it manually as you'll need to do fast boot and adb commands eventually. Just take the 20-25 minutes and learn how to do it now. It's very easy and they are stickied for a reason.
Toolkits are very dangerous. The shortcut isn't worth it.
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zephiK said:
Highly advise against doing this. Prefer yarox method do it manually as you'll need to do fast boot and adb commands eventually. Just take the 20-25 minutes and learn how to do it now. It's very easy and they are stickied for a reason.
Toolkits are very dangerous. The shortcut isn't worth it.
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Never liked them!! Besides you don't learn anything using toolkits...
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Never liked them!! Besides you don't learn anything using toolkits...
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Exactly. It's not like you're learning useless crap that you wouldn't use.
In fact for anyone flashing anything on their phone and not knowing a plan b if something goes wrong is scary, then they start panicking and out of no where make a forum thread. Bricked phone??? Uh no man. Anyone bricking a nexus device doesn't deserve one to be honest. It's so hard to brick one because of fast boot factory stock images.
A simple 20-25 minute step by step guide. It pretty much carries you through it and is more important than that lecture you attend every Tuesday that chances are you'd fall asleep because the professor isn't enthusiastic with his studies
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May I suggest using wug's nexus root toolkit. Safe and easy with just clicking your mouse. You will be amaze!
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May I suggest using wug's nexus root toolkit. Safe and easy with just clicking your mouse. You will be amaze!
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No. Did you really just say that after what we just said?
It's easy using a toolkit but also very easy to screw up your phone because people using it are clueless and flash whatever links making their phone into a non boot able state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 is a great read on this topic.
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No. Did you really just say that after what we just said?
It's easy using a toolkit but also very easy to screw up your phone because people using it are clueless and flash whatever links making their phone into a non boot able state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 is a great read on this topic.
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But the thing is people can choose whatever method they want to root their phone. Old way using adb or the new step by step on screen instruction toolkit. I choose toolkit to root my n4 just to try it out. I was just amaze how wug's toolkit was so easy as it had on screen instructions every click. I don't see how newbies could brick using wug's toolkit. I don't really care what method people use.
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But the thing is people can choose whatever method they want to root their phone. Old way using adb or the new step by step on screen instruction toolkit. I choose toolkit to root my n4 just to try it out. I was just amaze how wug's toolkit was so easy as it had on screen instructions every click. I don't see how newbies could brick using wug's toolkit. I don't really care what method people use.
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It's not the OLD way whatsoever. It's not newbies bricking their phones using the toolkit. It's what they do AFTERWARDS, go read the Q&A forums. Many of the problems coming out of threads are from users doing things that they don't understand because they lack the basic knowledge of the Android system with ADB & Fastboot (they mention toolkit in OP post). Some people rooted using the toolkit and they don't even know how to flash a flashable zip or even restore their phone back to stock because they want to send it in for a RMA.
Like I said in many threads, two methods,
1) Learn how to get from Point A to Point B by using a map and planning it out
2) Using a toolkit and have it get you from Point A to Point B without knowing how you got there.
Let's see what happens.
1) Since you planned it out and have a map beforehand using a step-by-step guide (its not hard) you can remap yourself on how to get there. What if you went to back half way because you forgot to pick up something at the store? You know how to get there
2) Toolkit... oh im at point B, i want to go to the supermarket at Point A.5, how do I get there? exactly. You don't know, you then proceed to ask questions on how to get there (in this case it would be Q&A forum on how to fix their phone because its not booting up).
By spending 20-25 minutes, people are aware of how fastboot works and how to restore their phone when its in a nonbootable state and not mistakenly say that their phone is bricked. This is XDA developers not XDA shortcuts
No one asked for your opinion on what method people used so I don't care that you don't care either?
Next time you should read the thread I posted before commenting. It has nothing to do with 'old ways' vs 'new ways.' If toolkit is the new way then oh man... we are in deep trouble.
Just like my two cases, he couldn't say it any better.
The people who are using these scripts aren't learning what is actually happening when they press 1 on their keyboard. Boom, their phone is unlocked, su-binaries and cwm recovery installed. Then, they flash a rom without creating a nandroid. What happens if something goes wrong and they didn't place any safety nets to help them? They post a thread saying their phone is bricked. People take time out of their day to help these people out, but since the user doesn't understand what the helper is talking about, they can't fix it.
Just last weekend I spent 30 minutes replying to a PM with step by step instructions how to flash stock images and including links to files and resources. The person replied back. Instead of fixing his phone himself, he said he "claimed his phone as stolen and will be getting sent a new one lol". WTF?! Not only is that morally wrong, it's also insurance fraud. And we wonder why carriers and OEM's are trying as hard as they can to lock down non-nexus phones.
Please, take the time to learn how to get yourself out of a mess before you are in a mess.
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I don't constantly post in threads about "OH DONT USE A TOOLKIT ITS TOO EASY. go old fashion with command prompt" for no reason. I do it with a good reason and no one should ever endorse toolkits for this very reason. Learn how to do it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to fastboot/adb when it's in a step-by-step tutorial. It's not hard to unlock a bootloader on a Nexus device. If it was a device with a difficult unlocking method through a exploit, then yes I would endorse a toolkit but for a Nexus its so easy to unlock.
1. set up ADB (do it once and you're SET for life on that computer.. dont have to do it again).
2. install ADB drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. boot into bootloader using combo keys
4. command prompt into fastboot -> fastboot oem unlock
5. fastboot flash recovery <whateverthenametherecoveryis>.img
6. DONE.
@zephik
You've inspired me. I don't have my N4 yet but just got my 7 for Christmas. I'm going to pop it back to stock and redo the whole process manually.
I knew I was taking the lazy way out, you have guilted me into doing it properly as you said you learn nothing from a toolkit. Lol
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ChrisHRocks said:
@zephik
You've inspired me. I don't have my N4 yet but just got my 7 for Christmas. I'm going to pop it back to stock and redo the whole process manually.
I knew I was taking the lazy way out, you have guilted me into doing it properly as you said you learn nothing from a toolkit. Lol
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Glad to know that I can do a kind of a change. If you need any further assistance or questions ahead of time, feel free to PM me.
Honestly, I'm not doing it to be a bad guy or to waste people's time. If it wasn't important, then I wouldn't stress how imperative ADB & Fastboot are to ANY device, but particularly towards Nexus devices. Fastboot isn't present in all devices, other devices such as Samsung Galaxy etc etc use Odin (Samsung's Firmware Flasher) which is the same thing but its more GUI friendly but it can still cause bricks and fastboot is easier in my opinion.
Just like what franco said,
Why would something happen? This kernel won't brick anything, a Nexus is pretty unbrickable unless someone is very dumb or simply a hardware bug ****s the device up. If anyone bricks this device or any Nexus I'll award him idiot of the year trophy.
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It is REALLY REALLY difficult to brick a Nexus device, and I'm not surprised that it does happen to people because they use the toolkit and aren't aware of what they're doing. It's like solving a math problem, what's the point in getting spoon fed the answer? Just work it out. Except for Nexus devices, you don't even have to work it out!!! all you do is read a GUIDE that one person spent time on writing up. At least have the decency on reading it. You read it, and you do the step, then proceed until you're at the end. It's not difficult, and you get to know what you're doing it and why you are doing it.
People do things and their phone cant boot up but can access bootloader mode. They don't even know how to fastboot flash and then post a thread in Q&A forum saying their phone is bricked.
And you don't have to redo the 7 process lol. Manually unlocking bootloader is one thing and then knowing how to flash is the easy part.
Even the ghetto guide I posted a couple posts above works for any nexus device.
1. set up ADB environment (google sdk) basically get fastboot binary.. if you want ADB you'll need the adb.exe binary
2. install drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. bootloader mode
4. fastboot oem unlock
5. unlock the phone on screen using vol keys
6. fastboot flash whatever.img [put in same folder as fastboot.exe]
7. done. you successfully flashed a 3rd-party recovery. now just put a zip file on the sdcard when android starts
8. receovery, wipe factory/dalvik/cache
9. flash rom,gapps(optional depending what rom), kernel (optional)
10. congrats you flashed a rom and kernel.
@zephiK. Thanks for the expert advice. I used Samsung S1 in the past and never used adb, was scared of it. I took your advice. Followed the guide and got rooted, the adb way. I have to admit. It was pretty satisfying to know what i was doing. Thanks again to everyone here.
thanks
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It's not the OLD way whatsoever. It's not newbies bricking their phones using the toolkit. It's what they do AFTERWARDS, go read the Q&A forums. Many of the problems coming out of threads are from users doing things that they don't understand because they lack the basic knowledge of the Android system with ADB & Fastboot (they mention toolkit in OP post). Some people rooted using the toolkit and they don't even know how to flash a flashable zip or even restore their phone back to stock because they want to send it in for a RMA.
Like I said in many threads, two methods,
1) Learn how to get from Point A to Point B by using a map and planning it out
2) Using a toolkit and have it get you from Point A to Point B without knowing how you got there.
Let's see what happens.
1) Since you planned it out and have a map beforehand using a step-by-step guide (its not hard) you can remap yourself on how to get there. What if you went to back half way because you forgot to pick up something at the store? You know how to get there
2) Toolkit... oh im at point B, i want to go to the supermarket at Point A.5, how do I get there? exactly. You don't know, you then proceed to ask questions on how to get there (in this case it would be Q&A forum on how to fix their phone because its not booting up).
By spending 20-25 minutes, people are aware of how fastboot works and how to restore their phone when its in a nonbootable state and not mistakenly say that their phone is bricked. This is XDA developers not XDA shortcuts
No one asked for your opinion on what method people used so I don't care that you don't care either?
Next time you should read the thread I posted before commenting. It has nothing to do with 'old ways' vs 'new ways.' If toolkit is the new way then oh man... we are in deep trouble.
Just like my two cases, he couldn't say it any better.
I don't constantly post in threads about "OH DONT USE A TOOLKIT ITS TOO EASY. go old fashion with command prompt" for no reason. I do it with a good reason and no one should ever endorse toolkits for this very reason. Learn how to do it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to fastboot/adb when it's in a step-by-step tutorial. It's not hard to unlock a bootloader on a Nexus device. If it was a device with a difficult unlocking method through a exploit, then yes I would endorse a toolkit but for a Nexus its so easy to unlock.
1. set up ADB (do it once and you're SET for life on that computer.. dont have to do it again).
2. install ADB drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. boot into bootloader using combo keys
4. command prompt into fastboot -> fastboot oem unlock
5. fastboot flash recovery <whateverthenametherecoveryis>.img
6. DONE.
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wow. good post. thanks a lot!
Is wallet working on all to Roms? Sorry to butt in this thread..
malikusmanrasheed said:
@zephiK. Thanks for the expert advice. I used Samsung S1 in the past and never used adb, was scared of it. I took your advice. Followed the guide and got rooted, the adb way. I have to admit. It was pretty satisfying to know what i was doing. Thanks again to everyone here.
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Not a expert advice by any means. Just been around for a long time so I observe the commonalities between all users. I just really dislike it when people say or recommend things when really they don't know anything. Not saying I'm perfect by any means, but people need to stop being so cocky on the forums acting like they know everything. Instead of trying to defend themselves, ask questions on why I feel this way or whatever.
That's what forums are all about right? That's what XDA is all about. Spreading information. Not clicking a button that spoon feeds you something and you don't know how or why it's like that.
If someone gave you a car with one click (toolkit), what's the point in having a car if you can't drive it? (Toolkit) do you expect to click one button and the car drives you from home to where you need to be and back? What happens if it doesn't work? You ask questions on how to do this and th at.
You have to go through the procedure of learning how to use it. If you learn from the beginning (like I said, it's not hard, if it was then it's understandable about a toolkit) then it'll be a breeze. When I first got started, I was a lurker on XDA, I didn't post. All I did was read. I didn't have toolkits, I had to telnet my G1 to obtain root access through a exploit that took 40-55 minutes, one mess up and I would of bricked my phone and i had to do it with my hands, that's a scary thought knowing that you can't go back once you started. People nowadays should be grateful that unlocking bootloaders aren't as difficult anymore but yet people still feel the need to use a toolkit when it already is simple.
wow. good post. thanks a lot!
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I didn't post it. That guy did. Definitely a great read and pretty much what I always believed in when I saw a toolkit. Should be banned from the forums but eh, who am I to call the shots
Is wallet working on all to Roms? Sorry to butt in this thread..
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Yes Google Wallet works on any ROM as well as kernel. It says incompatible because you're rooted but it should work regardless of that text on the top of the app. Flash away!
Edit: May 5, 2009: http://androidandme.com/2009/05/beg...r-rooting-your-android-g1-to-install-cupcake/
August 17, 2009: http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-root-a-t-mobile-g1-and-mytouch-3g-android-phone/
First guide one of the first rooting methods. August 17 is sort of one clickish but you still had to do a lot of things to get through it. So as you can see, it's not spoon fed to you, compare that to what you have to do now. Tell me that unlocking the Nexus bootloader is hard after reading all that ... it isn't.
@zephiK Can you link me to where it shows me how to root, and install CWM? Please
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@zephiK Can you link me to where it shows me how to root, and install CWM? Please
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019273
I actually prefer TWRP over CWM. Your preference though.
Both can be found in Android Development Forum.
My phone wont boot! It only boots into the bootloader and recovery I have CWM installed please help me!
If you can get into fastboot, simply follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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If you can get into fastboot, simply follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
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Is using a Toolkit inadvisable?
Not unless you want to learn how android tinkering really works.
Toolkits are just more difficult to get out of trouble of. You'll then have to learn how to tinker anyway so why not learn that first?
If you follow efrant's guides you will have come a long way.
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Not unless you want to learn how android tinkering really works.
Toolkits are just more difficult to get out of trouble of. You'll then have to learn how to tinker anyway so why not learn that first?
If you follow efrant's guides you will have come a long way.
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Thing is I'm in a hotel at 5:30am trying to fix my phone! I tried using a toolkit to flash stock google files and it didnt work I received a bunch of errors. I am now downloading a stock ROM hopefully will be able to push the files to it then flash like that. I honestly just want my phone up and running again.
Google pulled the factory images so Toolkit probably can't download them.
You can download image file from here
http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/nexus-4/occam/
To toolkit or not to toolkit is your own choice
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Raphael17 said:
Thing is I'm in a hotel at 5:30am trying to fix my phone! I tried using a toolkit to flash stock google files and it didnt work I received a bunch of errors. I am now downloading a stock ROM hopefully will be able to push the files to it then flash like that. I honestly just want my phone up and running again.
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Don't use a toolkit man. You're already in enough trouble and I can't post enough how imperative it is to know these things. There are so many user errors made because people are flashing and doing things without knowing what's going on.
I feel that toolkit is just awful. It's letting people cheat. Flashing roms and kernels are a reward you get for passing the test on doing a simple fast boot oem unlock and then flashing a recovery.
Just do what the people above said in regards to efrants guide. Follow it step by step and you'll be back on stock rom.
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zephiK said:
Don't use a toolkit man. You're already in enough trouble and I can't post enough how imperative it is to know these things. There are so many user errors made because people are flashing and doing things without knowing what's going on.
I feel that toolkit is just awful. It's letting people cheat. Flashing roms and kernels are a reward you get for passing the test on doing a simple fast boot oem unlock and then flashing a recovery.
Just do what the people above said in regards to efrants guide. Follow it step by step and you'll be back on stock rom.
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The problem is people don't want to spend five minutes learning the easiest fastboot commands in the world and just want everything done for them.
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zephiK said:
Don't use a toolkit man. You're already in enough trouble and I can't post enough how imperative it is to know these things. There are so many user errors made because people are flashing and doing things without knowing what's going on.
I feel that toolkit is just awful. It's letting people cheat. Flashing roms and kernels are a reward you get for passing the test on doing a simple fast boot oem unlock and then flashing a recovery.
Just do what the people above said in regards to efrants guide. Follow it step by step and you'll be back on stock rom.
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The problem is people don't want to spend five minutes learning the easiest fastboot commands in the world and just want everything done for them.
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I feel like I need to re-post my "Toolkit" thread on the N4 board soon...
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The problem is people don't want to spend five minutes learning the easiest fastboot commands in the world and just want everything done for them.
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Then the other problem comes when they come in the forums and starts complaining on why their phone didn't boot up. Or they stupidly send in a RMA request pretending that they don't know what happened to their phone.
If people can't spend those 5 minutes learning a simple command, not even learning it but preparing the environment for fastboot. Which is so easy because you follow a step by step, it's a checklist for what you need to do. Then they shouldn't be flashing anything. If they have the time to look for a rom and kernel then they have the time to do that fastboot.
Eventually they will have to do it so they should stop avoiding the inevitable and learn it before they do it. But I'm sure there's a percentage out there who doesn't and uses the toolkit without ever getting into problems but I'm sure a number of them are quite rare.
@el daddy: yeah I saw that thread on gn. Quite nice and I always felt that way just never made a post about it (actually just talked about it right above about rma... Refers back to your non Nexus point on why they're more strict) I'd say go for it man. Can't stress this enough, wish that toolkit would just be banned but it won't be.
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If I unlock my boot loader and root my phone and flash AOKP, with the stock kernel, would my battery be the same? My battery is perfect right now and I don't want a different kernel installed that could change my battery life...any thoughts?
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pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
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pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
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Hmm sounds cool...I really want AOKP cause of all the customization but I'm scared I'm going to brick my phone trying to unlock the boot loader or something
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pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
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But you can't flash a custom ROM until after you root..........
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But you can't flash a custom ROM until after you root..........
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Uh, yeah you can.
I do this for every of my Nexus phone
1. put zips on my phone [rom, gapps, kernel]
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery <twrp or cwr>.img
4. boot into recovery
5. flash custom rom
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no root. root comes from my custom rom.
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Uh, yeah you can.
I do this for every of my Nexus phone
1. put zips on my phone [rom, gapps, kernel]
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery <twrp or cwr>.img
4. boot into recovery
5. flash custom rom
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no root. root comes from my custom rom.
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Interesting. I've always flashed an insecure boot.img first, I suppose you are right. Oh well, I stand corrected.
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Interesting. I've always flashed an insecure boot.img first, I suppose you are right. Oh well, I stand corrected.
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Oh I've never done that method. Isn't that the method of obtaining root without unlocking your bootloader or something? I never done that approach.
Root is needed if you wish to flash your recovery via a app such as Clockwork Recovery (flashing it with ROM Manager) or using Goo Manager to flash TWRP.
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Oh I've never done that method. Isn't that the method of obtaining root without unlocking your bootloader or something? I never done that approach.
Root is needed if you wish to flash your recovery via a app such as Clockwork Recovery (flashing it with ROM Manager) or using Goo Manager to flash TWRP.
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No it is the method of flashing recovery through an app as you mentioned. I don't believe there is a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. Either way, I fastboot oem unlock before I do anything else, so I wouldn't really know haha. Either way, to each his own sir.
Happy new year!
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No it is the method of flashing recovery through an app as you mentioned. I don't believe there is a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. Either way, I fastboot oem unlock before I do anything else, so I wouldn't really know haha. Either way, to each his own sir.
Happy new year!
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Same here. I get my phone, first thing I do is oem unlock that way I can always back up my apps before I jump ship to a custom ROM.
On the Galaxy Nexus there was a way, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894717 but it was done through a exploit.
happy new years to you as well
Soooo is it possible to hard brick a Nexus? Or can you only soft brick it?
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Scoutamis said:
Soooo is it possible to hard brick a Nexus? Or can you only soft brick it?
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Close to impossible to hard brick a Nexus. Some people come close to it because they don't know what they're doing and often mistaken it to be a soft-brick.
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Close to impossible to hard brick a Nexus. Some people come close to it because they don't know what they're doing and often mistaken it to be a soft-brick.
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So I take it it's a lot harder than a Galaxy S III....
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Scoutamis said:
So I take it it's a lot harder than a Galaxy S III....
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Never used a Galaxy S3, so I can't comment on that but I do know one benefit of Nexus devices it to have the ability to fastboot. Fastboot is your best friend (it helps you restore back to stock etc etc)
Not a huge fan of Samsung's Odin System (Samsung's version of Fastboot).
Honestly, I don't think that you can brick this phone unless you don't read at all and just do something really stupid which at that point you deserve to be bricked
a Nexus is pretty unbrickable unless someone is very dumb or simply a hardware bug ****s the device up. If anyone bricks this device or any Nexus I'll award him idiot of the year trophy. -Franco
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zephiK said:
Never used a Galaxy S3, so I can't comment on that but I do know one benefit of Nexus devices it to have the ability to fastboot. Fastboot is your best friend (it helps you restore back to stock etc etc)
Not a huge fan of Samsung's Odin System (Samsung's version of Fastboot)
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Ohh...well there were a lot of people complaining about hard bricking in the GSIII forums so I assume Nexus devices are harder to brick...and Fastboot is part of adv or something isn't it?
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Ohh...well there were a lot of people complaining about hard bricking in the GSIII forums so I assume Nexus devices are harder to brick...and Fastboot is part of adv or something isn't it?
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They are harder to brick. The usual 'brick' threads for the N4 are cases of soft bricks which people are using the term wrongly when it is a soft brick and not a hard brick. There's the occasional "red LED" which I never encountered but you can search on your own about that.
Part of adv? what does that mean? Fastboot is at it's very deep level same as bootloader mode
This is why I never endorse the toolkit. People don't know how to use fastboot and tend to get themselves in icky situations because they got a free ride.
zephiK said:
They are harder to brick. The usual 'brick' threads for the N4 are cases of soft bricks which people are using the term wrongly when it is a soft brick and not a hard brick. There's the occasional "red LED" which I never encountered but you can search on your own about that.
Part of adv? what does that mean? Fastboot is at it's very deep level same as bootloader mode
This is why I never endorse the toolkit. People don't know how to use fastboot and tend to get themselves in icky situations because they got a free ride.
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I meant adb sorry auto correct
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Scoutamis said:
I meant adb sorry auto correct
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Fastboot and adb are separate. Every phone has adb.
ADB = Android Device Bridge.
Every Android phone has adb.
Fastboot is deep down to it's bootloader level. Not all phones have fastboot.
zephiK said:
Fastboot and adb are separate. Every phone has adb.
ADB = Android Device Bridge.
Every Android phone has adb.
Fastboot is deep down to it's bootloader level. Not all phones have fastboot.
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Ohhh okay thanks I'll go look up how to unlock the boot loader and root then
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Scoutamis said:
Ohhh okay thanks I'll go look up how to unlock the boot loader and root then
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972508 is a guide to get you started if you have any ongoing questions. Feel free to post in this thread and I (or others) will help you out. Ask anything you may be confused about
Yeah I actually have 2 questions. 1. Will re-locking the bootloader erase everything? 2. How do I back up my phone?
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I want to root my Nexus 4 4.3 JWR66V with a Toolkit.
I want the easiest way and MUCH MORE important is it to be SAFE.
So which Toolkit shall I use?
I thaught about WugFresh's and N-Cry but if there is something else it'll be OK (WugFresh's looks very easy but I heard there are some bugs with 4.3)
Thank you in advance guys!:good:
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I want to root my Nexus 4 4.3 JWR66V with a Toolkit.
I want the easiest way and MUCH MORE important is it to be SAFE.
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I had no problem with CF Auto Root by chainfire - simply flash it via fastboot, thats it!
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joerg78 said:
I had no problem with CF Auto Root by chainfire - simply flash it via fastboot, thats it!
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Thanks but I want to use a ToolKit...
Which ToolKit shall I use to root 4.3?
VIPOA said:
Thanks but I want to use a ToolKit...
Which ToolKit shall I use to root 4.3?
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Go to the thread, read, understand the risk, then try it out. You will find one that works. I'll be the good guy and link you.
Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469
N-Cry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171332
Always do backup, when possible!
Edit: A word of advice, although it is safe to say that you can't brick your phone with these toolkit, but if you can't bear with the risk of data loss, it is best not to do it at all.
VIPOA said:
I want to root my Nexus 4 4.3 JWR66V with a Toolkit.
I want the easiest way and MUCH MORE important is it to be SAFE.
So which Toolkit shall I use?
I thaught about WugFresh's and N-Cry but if there is something else it'll be OK (WugFresh's looks very easy but I heard there are some bugs with 4.3)
Thank you in advance guys!:good:
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I know that you are new to driod hacking but I would recommend you to do stuff manually it would be very useful to you.
ksilver89 said:
Always do backup, when possible!
Edit: A word of advice, although it is safe to say that you can't brick your phone with these toolkit, but if you can't bear with the risk of data loss, it is best not to do it at all.
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Especially if your bootloader is still locked - the rooting process WILL result in data loss.
ksilver89 said:
Go to the thread, read, understand the risk, then try it out. You will find one that works. I'll be the good guy and link you.
Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469
N-Cry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2171332
Always do backup, when possible!
Edit: A word of advice, although it is safe to say that you can't brick your phone with these toolkit, but if you can't bear with the risk of data loss, it is best not to do it at all.
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I know the risks but I heard that there are some bugs with WugFresh's but WugFresh's looks much easier...
Thanks!
sujith1994 said:
I know that you are new to driod hacking but I would recommend you to do stuff manually it would be very useful to you.
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What do you mean by do stuff manually? Commands?
Thanks!
joerg78 said:
Especially if your bootloader is still locked - the rooting process WILL result in data loss.
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I don't care about data loss, I'll backup everything I need before...
And my bootloader is locked so I need a tool to unlock it
Thanks!
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I know the risks but I heard that there are some bugs with WugFresh's but WugFresh's looks much easier...
Thanks!
What do you mean by do stuff manually? Commands?
Thanks!
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Yeah using commands and doing stuff it is highly recommend.
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Yeah using commands and doing stuff it is highly recommend.
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But I prefer a Toolkit...
I want it to be the easiest way for me so:
Which Toolkit shall I use?
Tanks!
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But I prefer a Toolkit...
I want it to be the easiest way for me so:
Which Toolkit shall I use?
Tanks!
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Sorry mate I don't use toolkits so I don't know which is the best one out there!
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Sorry mate I don't use toolkits so I don't know which is the best one out there!
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OK,
thank's any way!
Fastboot oem unlock
Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Flash supersu in recovery
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I think N-Cry but search for a guide cause I didn't find...
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MUCH MORE important is it to be SAFE.
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Well then you better do things manually, because one wrong click on a toolkit and you're screwed. Seriously, do it manually and you'll learn how to sort out future issues. Also, don't post duplicate threads since I've just replied to another thread that you've created about the exact same thing.
In fact, it would do you a lot of good to read the new user guide in my sig. I'm not being rude, just realistic. You seem to know very little about this right now and the sooner you get used to XDA the faster you'll be able to find what you need.
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Well then you better do things manually, because one wrong click on a toolkit and you're screwed. Seriously, do it manually and you'll learn how to sort out future issues. Also, don't post duplicate threads since I've just replied to another thread that you've created (in the wrong forum btw, questions belong in the Q&A) about the exact same thing.
In fact, it would do you a lot of good to read the new user guide in my sig. I'm not being rude, just realistic. You seem to know very little about this right now and the sooner you get used to XDA the faster you'll be able to find what you need.
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This +100. You want something? Read about it and learn what you want to do. Laziness will only screw you in the end.
Don't wanna hijack OP's thread but before rooting if one wants to back up the data.. How can it be done? And my back up i mean complete back up of apps and games..the save points in games.. The settings in app etc.
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filthykid said:
Don't wanna hijack OP's thread but before rooting if one wants to back up the data.. How can it be done? And my back up i mean complete back up of apps and games..the save points in games.. The settings in app etc.
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You should check out Carbon in the playstore. I believe it's made by koush and it's supposed to work without root.
You ask this as you do not have your bootloader unlocked I suppose?
filthykid said:
Don't wanna hijack OP's thread but before rooting if one wants to back up the data.. How can it be done? And my back up i mean complete back up of apps and games..the save points in games.. The settings in app etc.
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Adb backup -all
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kwibis said:
You should check out Carbon in the playstore. I believe it's made by koush and it's supposed to work without root.
You ask this as you do not have your bootloader unlocked I suppose?
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Correct.
Using a tool kit may look easier since you just have to select an option, but honestly the guide here is more or less cut and paste into the command line. Plus there's no harm in reading and gaining more information so that you don't panic when you get into a bootloop or brick. I get that you're new to android rooting, but if you're going to do something like unlock a bootloader, might as well in from the deep end.
Well I just got a new one in the mail and I'm kind of afraid to root it, I rooted my htc evo 3d now it's bricked dwith a red light. Windows detects it but it won't boot but that's another ordeal. Anyway is it possible to brick my nexus 4 on 4.3?
No need to root this beast. Imo
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1slow4G said:
No need to root this beast. Imo
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I'd like to root it to get rid of the soft keys and enable lte if possible.
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I'd like to root it to get rid of the soft keys and enable lte if possible.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Just root using one of the software packages, or do it manually. There are many guides for this. It really is no big deal and almost nothing to worry about IMHO.
The biggest worry is that once you unlock and root, you'll want to flash. Then the addiction begins!!!!!
Just read and do all your researches. Go for it.
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way2muchcoff said:
I wouldn't worry about it. Just root using one of the software packages, or do it manually. There are many guides for this. It really is no big deal and almost nothing to worry about IMHO.
The biggest worry is that once you unlock and root, you'll want to flash. Then the addiction begins!!!!!
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Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now
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Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now
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did you find that here... This is your first problem if you ask me, you come to xda to ask questions but you do not use the multiple root options that are stickied(for a reason mind you). Try to use a root from another area. Do yourself a favor and read the wugs thread or mskip. No need to go looking elsewhere since its all right in here.
If you have bricked other phone and not sure about what to do then I suggest you enjoy HSPA+ and try and deal with the buttons. Its a great phone and selling cheap now but that does not mean your brick it if you are not sure about rooting.
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did you find that here... This is your first problem if you ask me, you come to xda to ask questions but you do not use the multiple root options that are stickied(for a reason mind you). Try to use a root from another area. Do yourself a favor and read the wugs thread or mskip. No need to go looking elsewhere since its all right in here.
If you have bricked other phone and not sure about what to do then I suggest you enjoy HSPA+ and try and deal with the buttons. Its a great phone and selling cheap now but that does not mean your brick it if you are not sure about rooting.
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Let's try to not be rude here. I was simply asking if it was legit. No rule against asking questions like that is there?
I'm glad you enjoy that but I do not.
Enjoy your evening.
Nah my bad not rude at all just a straight forward person... Sorry if you took it wrong but too me if you are worried don't root
Edit: I agree with below comment if you gonna do it learn it all but also that means take time to research as well and know what you are doing and what it takes to make it right in case something goes wrong.
Also as I read my thread I had some points there that were helpful again sorry you took it wrong way
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The only right way of unlocking & rooting your Nexus.
Learn why you do things, what happens at different stages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
playya said:
Nah my bad not rude at all just a straight forward person... Sorry if you took it wrong but too me if you are worried don't root
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Edit: My bad its probably legit but I really only trust xda methods myself
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kennethk1 said:
Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now
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IMO the only thing daunting in this is the unlock procedure. Once unlocked then rooting, custom recoveries, custom roms, mods, themes, and all else become possible.
When I did it I went old school and used adb and the sdk and did everything manually. I learned a lot on the way, even as I was nervous and worried. I strongly recommend this approach though as it will help you to understand your phone and its operating system. And you also can begin to appreciate the beauty of open-source.
Just follow the directions in the guides posted here at XDA. Go slow. Read. Download the requirements. Be patient. Be meticulous. You will be ok... And if you really don't want to get your hands dirty use one of the 'kits' also available for download here at XDA.
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Edit: My bad its probably legit but I really only trust xda methods myself
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It's understandable, I'm really just looking at which is the best and easiest method since there seems to be tons of options.
way2muchcoff said:
IMO the only thing daunting in this is the unlock procedure. Once unlocked, rooting, custom recoveries, custom roms, mods, themes, and all else become possible. When I did it I went old school and used adb and the sdk and did everything manually. I learned a lot on the way, even as I was nervous and worried. I strongly recommend this approach though as it will help you to understand your phone and its operating system. And you also can begin to appreciate the beauty of open-source. Just follow the directions in the guides posted here at XDA. You will be ok. And if you really don't want to get your hands dirty use one of the 'kits' also available for download here at XDA.
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The weird thing was I installed superuser just fine then went to install a few roms and couldn't get anything to work..
I'm just afraid of having a new phone and it instantly being paperweight.
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It's understandable, I'm really just looking at which is the best and easiest method since there seems to be tons of options.
The weird thing was I installed superuser just fine then went to install a few roms and couldn't get anything to work..
I'm just afraid of having a new phone and it instantly being paperweight.
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sounds to me that you are not sure of yourself or have not done enough homework prior to flashing or rooting.. If thats the case leave your new phone alone and just enjoy it. Rooting is honeslty easy and fun but if you are not sure of yourself it could be a nightmare.
Its unlock bootloader run a command to push recovery and flash and su.zip quite simple by original 40 step Evo root procedure back in the days
That's the reason for old school. If you get a handle on the basics of adb your phone is almost indestructable from an OS and software standpoint because you can just return to stock images if things go south a little bit....
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My advice: just do it!
The fear will vanish.....
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I say go for it.
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So guess what, I rooted and everything got Miui rom installed went to restore now my phones stuck on fastboot menu.
Any links on how to get 4.3 back on or am I screwed? cmd still detects my phone, theres gotta be a way to get out of this?
Never mind! Was able to download the stock img from google and restore the phone, whew.