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[Q] 2 ? cwm or twrp, 1click root or regular root adb etc.

first question is Im looking into rooting and unlocking my nexus 7 32gb wifi tablet any feedback on which recovery is the most stable of the 2. second question is im thinking of going with one of the 1 click root will that be a good idea or should i just try the regular rooting process with adb etc. thank you so much in advance

getmoneygreen said:
first question is Im looking into rooting and unlocking my nexus 7 32gb wifi tablet any feedback on which recovery is the most stable of the 2. second question is im thinking of going with one of the 1 click root will that be a good idea or should i just try the regular rooting process with adb etc. thank you so much in advance
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1. both are equally good its just about personal preference
2. use toolkit since i think its much safer than trying it using traditional method
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thank you for your input

I would say twrp is much better and that's only somewhat subjunctive as I haven't used clockwork on any device for a long time...
But I would stay away from toolkits as they aren't safer and you don't learn the basics yourself. Rooting a nexus device is far from complicated and if something goes wrong in the future you will at least have a concept of how to fix it.
Again my opinion may not be fair as I have never used a toolkit for any device, but I always read up on them... personally I feel if one can not obtain root without one they probably shouldn't have root access, I've seen many many bricks over the years and more often then not it is because the user didn't understand what they were doing... point being is a toolkit won't help you understand
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demkantor said:
I would say twrp is much better and that's only somewhat subjunctive as I haven't used clockwork on any device for a long time...
But I would stay away from toolkits as they aren't safer and you don't learn the basics yourself. Rooting a nexus device is far from complicated and if something goes wrong in the future you will at least have a concept of how to fix it.
Again my opinion may not be fair as I have never used a toolkit for any device, but I always read up on them... personally I feel if one can not obtain root without one they probably shouldn't have root access, I've seen many many bricks over the years and more often then not it is because the user didn't understand what they were doing... point being is a toolkit won't help you understand
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I agree with demkantor regarding toolkits, they are not any safer than running adb and fastboot commands yourself. In fact, if you take a look at most of the "oh noes! am I bricked?!" threads, the common theme is "I tried to do X with the X toolkit". With Nexus devices there is really no advantage to a using toolkit. Everything you need to do can be done faster via adb and fastboot, and you'll be in control every step of the way. Don't buy in to the FUD about it being dangerous or "scary" to use these tools, it simply isn't true.

ngoralph said:
1. both are equally good its just about personal preference
2. use toolkit since i think its much safer than trying it using traditional method
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nexus devices are made to be easily/safely unlocked and rooted through traditiinal methods. fastboot oem unlock(thank you google), flash a custom recovery, flash the su binaries or a custom rom, then reboot. thats it. using root toolkits are more dangerous, especially if you are inexperienced.

[Q] To custom rom or not to custom rom?

Hi all,
I see the android development section has a lot of goodies in there and i have had great experience with custom ROMs on my old Galaxy S1. But for the GN4. Is there any value addition to the stock ROM, in the custom builds so far?. Kindly share your feedback on the custom ROMs that you.
P.S: I haven't yet rooted the device (i know) ... can someone kindly send me the easiest way to do that as well.
Thanks a bunch for your time.

As far as rooting go just download the toolkit from the dev section follow the instructions on that thread.
And with the custom roms read the thread try them out every dev adds there own tweets. You can always go back to a backup
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Personally, I read through the pinned threads and unlocked my bootloader, flashed touch CWM and rooted my phone right after getting it. As for custom ROMs - I don't feel the slightest urge as the rom is imho perfect; although I was a keen flasher before I sold my Galaxy S II.

Custom ROM for N4 are very stable and smooth like stock, maybe even more smoother. More feature like editing nav bar and so on. Happy flashing
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Thanks guys. definitely gona root the device, gona make a nand and try a couple of customs out as well.

ChrisHRocks said:
As far as rooting go just download the toolkit from the dev section follow the instructions on that thread.
And with the custom roms read the thread try them out every dev adds there own tweets. You can always go back to a backup
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Highly advise against doing this. Prefer yarox method do it manually as you'll need to do fast boot and adb commands eventually. Just take the 20-25 minutes and learn how to do it now. It's very easy and they are stickied for a reason.
Toolkits are very dangerous. The shortcut isn't worth it.
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zephiK said:
Highly advise against doing this. Prefer yarox method do it manually as you'll need to do fast boot and adb commands eventually. Just take the 20-25 minutes and learn how to do it now. It's very easy and they are stickied for a reason.
Toolkits are very dangerous. The shortcut isn't worth it.
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Never liked them!! Besides you don't learn anything using toolkits...

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Never liked them!! Besides you don't learn anything using toolkits...
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Exactly. It's not like you're learning useless crap that you wouldn't use.
In fact for anyone flashing anything on their phone and not knowing a plan b if something goes wrong is scary, then they start panicking and out of no where make a forum thread. Bricked phone??? Uh no man. Anyone bricking a nexus device doesn't deserve one to be honest. It's so hard to brick one because of fast boot factory stock images.
A simple 20-25 minute step by step guide. It pretty much carries you through it and is more important than that lecture you attend every Tuesday that chances are you'd fall asleep because the professor isn't enthusiastic with his studies
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May I suggest using wug's nexus root toolkit. Safe and easy with just clicking your mouse. You will be amaze!
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droidmeup said:
May I suggest using wug's nexus root toolkit. Safe and easy with just clicking your mouse. You will be amaze!
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No. Did you really just say that after what we just said?
It's easy using a toolkit but also very easy to screw up your phone because people using it are clueless and flash whatever links making their phone into a non boot able state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 is a great read on this topic.
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zephiK said:
No. Did you really just say that after what we just said?
It's easy using a toolkit but also very easy to screw up your phone because people using it are clueless and flash whatever links making their phone into a non boot able state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 is a great read on this topic.
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But the thing is people can choose whatever method they want to root their phone. Old way using adb or the new step by step on screen instruction toolkit. I choose toolkit to root my n4 just to try it out. I was just amaze how wug's toolkit was so easy as it had on screen instructions every click. I don't see how newbies could brick using wug's toolkit. I don't really care what method people use.
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But the thing is people can choose whatever method they want to root their phone. Old way using adb or the new step by step on screen instruction toolkit. I choose toolkit to root my n4 just to try it out. I was just amaze how wug's toolkit was so easy as it had on screen instructions every click. I don't see how newbies could brick using wug's toolkit. I don't really care what method people use.
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It's not the OLD way whatsoever. It's not newbies bricking their phones using the toolkit. It's what they do AFTERWARDS, go read the Q&A forums. Many of the problems coming out of threads are from users doing things that they don't understand because they lack the basic knowledge of the Android system with ADB & Fastboot (they mention toolkit in OP post). Some people rooted using the toolkit and they don't even know how to flash a flashable zip or even restore their phone back to stock because they want to send it in for a RMA.
Like I said in many threads, two methods,
1) Learn how to get from Point A to Point B by using a map and planning it out
2) Using a toolkit and have it get you from Point A to Point B without knowing how you got there.
Let's see what happens.
1) Since you planned it out and have a map beforehand using a step-by-step guide (its not hard) you can remap yourself on how to get there. What if you went to back half way because you forgot to pick up something at the store? You know how to get there
2) Toolkit... oh im at point B, i want to go to the supermarket at Point A.5, how do I get there? exactly. You don't know, you then proceed to ask questions on how to get there (in this case it would be Q&A forum on how to fix their phone because its not booting up).
By spending 20-25 minutes, people are aware of how fastboot works and how to restore their phone when its in a nonbootable state and not mistakenly say that their phone is bricked. This is XDA developers not XDA shortcuts
No one asked for your opinion on what method people used so I don't care that you don't care either?
Next time you should read the thread I posted before commenting. It has nothing to do with 'old ways' vs 'new ways.' If toolkit is the new way then oh man... we are in deep trouble.
Just like my two cases, he couldn't say it any better.
The people who are using these scripts aren't learning what is actually happening when they press 1 on their keyboard. Boom, their phone is unlocked, su-binaries and cwm recovery installed. Then, they flash a rom without creating a nandroid. What happens if something goes wrong and they didn't place any safety nets to help them? They post a thread saying their phone is bricked. People take time out of their day to help these people out, but since the user doesn't understand what the helper is talking about, they can't fix it.
Just last weekend I spent 30 minutes replying to a PM with step by step instructions how to flash stock images and including links to files and resources. The person replied back. Instead of fixing his phone himself, he said he "claimed his phone as stolen and will be getting sent a new one lol". WTF?! Not only is that morally wrong, it's also insurance fraud. And we wonder why carriers and OEM's are trying as hard as they can to lock down non-nexus phones.
Please, take the time to learn how to get yourself out of a mess before you are in a mess.
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I don't constantly post in threads about "OH DONT USE A TOOLKIT ITS TOO EASY. go old fashion with command prompt" for no reason. I do it with a good reason and no one should ever endorse toolkits for this very reason. Learn how to do it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to fastboot/adb when it's in a step-by-step tutorial. It's not hard to unlock a bootloader on a Nexus device. If it was a device with a difficult unlocking method through a exploit, then yes I would endorse a toolkit but for a Nexus its so easy to unlock.
1. set up ADB (do it once and you're SET for life on that computer.. dont have to do it again).
2. install ADB drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. boot into bootloader using combo keys
4. command prompt into fastboot -> fastboot oem unlock
5. fastboot flash recovery <whateverthenametherecoveryis>.img
6. DONE.

@zephik
You've inspired me. I don't have my N4 yet but just got my 7 for Christmas. I'm going to pop it back to stock and redo the whole process manually.
I knew I was taking the lazy way out, you have guilted me into doing it properly as you said you learn nothing from a toolkit. Lol
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ChrisHRocks said:
@zephik
You've inspired me. I don't have my N4 yet but just got my 7 for Christmas. I'm going to pop it back to stock and redo the whole process manually.
I knew I was taking the lazy way out, you have guilted me into doing it properly as you said you learn nothing from a toolkit. Lol
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Glad to know that I can do a kind of a change. If you need any further assistance or questions ahead of time, feel free to PM me.
Honestly, I'm not doing it to be a bad guy or to waste people's time. If it wasn't important, then I wouldn't stress how imperative ADB & Fastboot are to ANY device, but particularly towards Nexus devices. Fastboot isn't present in all devices, other devices such as Samsung Galaxy etc etc use Odin (Samsung's Firmware Flasher) which is the same thing but its more GUI friendly but it can still cause bricks and fastboot is easier in my opinion.
Just like what franco said,
Why would something happen? This kernel won't brick anything, a Nexus is pretty unbrickable unless someone is very dumb or simply a hardware bug ****s the device up. If anyone bricks this device or any Nexus I'll award him idiot of the year trophy.
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It is REALLY REALLY difficult to brick a Nexus device, and I'm not surprised that it does happen to people because they use the toolkit and aren't aware of what they're doing. It's like solving a math problem, what's the point in getting spoon fed the answer? Just work it out. Except for Nexus devices, you don't even have to work it out!!! all you do is read a GUIDE that one person spent time on writing up. At least have the decency on reading it. You read it, and you do the step, then proceed until you're at the end. It's not difficult, and you get to know what you're doing it and why you are doing it.
People do things and their phone cant boot up but can access bootloader mode. They don't even know how to fastboot flash and then post a thread in Q&A forum saying their phone is bricked.
And you don't have to redo the 7 process lol. Manually unlocking bootloader is one thing and then knowing how to flash is the easy part.
Even the ghetto guide I posted a couple posts above works for any nexus device.
1. set up ADB environment (google sdk) basically get fastboot binary.. if you want ADB you'll need the adb.exe binary
2. install drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. bootloader mode
4. fastboot oem unlock
5. unlock the phone on screen using vol keys
6. fastboot flash whatever.img [put in same folder as fastboot.exe]
7. done. you successfully flashed a 3rd-party recovery. now just put a zip file on the sdcard when android starts
8. receovery, wipe factory/dalvik/cache
9. flash rom,gapps(optional depending what rom), kernel (optional)
10. congrats you flashed a rom and kernel.

@zephiK. Thanks for the expert advice. I used Samsung S1 in the past and never used adb, was scared of it. I took your advice. Followed the guide and got rooted, the adb way. I have to admit. It was pretty satisfying to know what i was doing. Thanks again to everyone here.

thanks
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It's not the OLD way whatsoever. It's not newbies bricking their phones using the toolkit. It's what they do AFTERWARDS, go read the Q&A forums. Many of the problems coming out of threads are from users doing things that they don't understand because they lack the basic knowledge of the Android system with ADB & Fastboot (they mention toolkit in OP post). Some people rooted using the toolkit and they don't even know how to flash a flashable zip or even restore their phone back to stock because they want to send it in for a RMA.
Like I said in many threads, two methods,
1) Learn how to get from Point A to Point B by using a map and planning it out
2) Using a toolkit and have it get you from Point A to Point B without knowing how you got there.
Let's see what happens.
1) Since you planned it out and have a map beforehand using a step-by-step guide (its not hard) you can remap yourself on how to get there. What if you went to back half way because you forgot to pick up something at the store? You know how to get there
2) Toolkit... oh im at point B, i want to go to the supermarket at Point A.5, how do I get there? exactly. You don't know, you then proceed to ask questions on how to get there (in this case it would be Q&A forum on how to fix their phone because its not booting up).
By spending 20-25 minutes, people are aware of how fastboot works and how to restore their phone when its in a nonbootable state and not mistakenly say that their phone is bricked. This is XDA developers not XDA shortcuts
No one asked for your opinion on what method people used so I don't care that you don't care either?
Next time you should read the thread I posted before commenting. It has nothing to do with 'old ways' vs 'new ways.' If toolkit is the new way then oh man... we are in deep trouble.
Just like my two cases, he couldn't say it any better.
I don't constantly post in threads about "OH DONT USE A TOOLKIT ITS TOO EASY. go old fashion with command prompt" for no reason. I do it with a good reason and no one should ever endorse toolkits for this very reason. Learn how to do it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to fastboot/adb when it's in a step-by-step tutorial. It's not hard to unlock a bootloader on a Nexus device. If it was a device with a difficult unlocking method through a exploit, then yes I would endorse a toolkit but for a Nexus its so easy to unlock.
1. set up ADB (do it once and you're SET for life on that computer.. dont have to do it again).
2. install ADB drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. boot into bootloader using combo keys
4. command prompt into fastboot -> fastboot oem unlock
5. fastboot flash recovery <whateverthenametherecoveryis>.img
6. DONE.
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wow. good post. thanks a lot!

Is wallet working on all to Roms? Sorry to butt in this thread..

malikusmanrasheed said:
@zephiK. Thanks for the expert advice. I used Samsung S1 in the past and never used adb, was scared of it. I took your advice. Followed the guide and got rooted, the adb way. I have to admit. It was pretty satisfying to know what i was doing. Thanks again to everyone here.
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Not a expert advice by any means. Just been around for a long time so I observe the commonalities between all users. I just really dislike it when people say or recommend things when really they don't know anything. Not saying I'm perfect by any means, but people need to stop being so cocky on the forums acting like they know everything. Instead of trying to defend themselves, ask questions on why I feel this way or whatever.
That's what forums are all about right? That's what XDA is all about. Spreading information. Not clicking a button that spoon feeds you something and you don't know how or why it's like that.
If someone gave you a car with one click (toolkit), what's the point in having a car if you can't drive it? (Toolkit) do you expect to click one button and the car drives you from home to where you need to be and back? What happens if it doesn't work? You ask questions on how to do this and th at.
You have to go through the procedure of learning how to use it. If you learn from the beginning (like I said, it's not hard, if it was then it's understandable about a toolkit) then it'll be a breeze. When I first got started, I was a lurker on XDA, I didn't post. All I did was read. I didn't have toolkits, I had to telnet my G1 to obtain root access through a exploit that took 40-55 minutes, one mess up and I would of bricked my phone and i had to do it with my hands, that's a scary thought knowing that you can't go back once you started. People nowadays should be grateful that unlocking bootloaders aren't as difficult anymore but yet people still feel the need to use a toolkit when it already is simple.
wow. good post. thanks a lot!
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I didn't post it. That guy did. Definitely a great read and pretty much what I always believed in when I saw a toolkit. Should be banned from the forums but eh, who am I to call the shots
Is wallet working on all to Roms? Sorry to butt in this thread..
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Yes Google Wallet works on any ROM as well as kernel. It says incompatible because you're rooted but it should work regardless of that text on the top of the app. Flash away!
Edit: May 5, 2009: http://androidandme.com/2009/05/beg...r-rooting-your-android-g1-to-install-cupcake/
August 17, 2009: http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-root-a-t-mobile-g1-and-mytouch-3g-android-phone/
First guide one of the first rooting methods. August 17 is sort of one clickish but you still had to do a lot of things to get through it. So as you can see, it's not spoon fed to you, compare that to what you have to do now. Tell me that unlocking the Nexus bootloader is hard after reading all that ... it isn't.

@zephiK Can you link me to where it shows me how to root, and install CWM? Please
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xxMAGICxx said:
@zephiK Can you link me to where it shows me how to root, and install CWM? Please
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019273
I actually prefer TWRP over CWM. Your preference though.
Both can be found in Android Development Forum.

(Q) so i just got my n4

What should be the first time to do with it? What is everyone doing with there's?
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As with any phone, first thing I'd do is unlock the bootloader - even if you're not going to flash anything straight away. You can then check the phone for faults. Once you're happy with it, root it/flash a new ROM and enjoy it

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What should be the first time to do with it? What is everyone doing with there's?
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Your questions are very vague. What exactly is that you want to do to it?
The first time I did it with was with someone special. :winkwink:
Like EddyOS said, you can unlock the bootloader and root the device. See how you like it and decide if you want to flash a custom rom or kernel to your heart's desire. (You can do this before unlocking and rooting as well.)
If you know how to unlock and root via adb/fastboot, that's great! But here's a link to a toolkit to easily root your Nexus 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015469

Personally, I'd recommend taking the 10-15 minutes to learn to manually unlock/root/flash the phone. Means you have a working knowledge of what's going on in future (never liked toolkits, always lead to issues as people just rely on them for everything)

EddyOS said:
Personally, I'd recommend taking the 10-15 minutes to learn to manually unlock/root/flash the phone. Means you have a working knowledge of what's going on in future (never liked toolkits, always lead to issues as people just rely on them for everything)
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Yes, they do run into troubles. Even so, I think it's the easiest process to root a phone. It does everything for you. I have been using toolkits like ODIN, SuperOneClick and such since I had my first android phone. I was a total noob at the time so I had no idea how to use the command prompt.
I finally learned how to use adb/fastboot commands last year and I have to say it's not as hard as I thought it would be. It's super easy!

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Yes, they do run into troubles. Even so, I think it's the easiest process to root a phone. It does everything for you. I have been using toolkits like ODIN, SuperOneClick and such since I had my first android phone. I was a total noob at the time so I had no idea how to use the command prompt.
I finally learned how to use adb/fastboot commands last year and I have to say it's not as hard as I thought it would be. It's super easy!
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I've never once used a toolkit, just Google'd how to do it manually and gone from there!

Afraid to root my nexus 4

Well I just got a new one in the mail and I'm kind of afraid to root it, I rooted my htc evo 3d now it's bricked dwith a red light. Windows detects it but it won't boot but that's another ordeal. Anyway is it possible to brick my nexus 4 on 4.3?

No need to root this beast. Imo
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1slow4G said:
No need to root this beast. Imo
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I'd like to root it to get rid of the soft keys and enable lte if possible.

kennethk1 said:
I'd like to root it to get rid of the soft keys and enable lte if possible.
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I wouldn't worry about it. Just root using one of the software packages, or do it manually. There are many guides for this. It really is no big deal and almost nothing to worry about IMHO.
The biggest worry is that once you unlock and root, you'll want to flash. Then the addiction begins!!!!!

Just read and do all your researches. Go for it.
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way2muchcoff said:
I wouldn't worry about it. Just root using one of the software packages, or do it manually. There are many guides for this. It really is no big deal and almost nothing to worry about IMHO.
The biggest worry is that once you unlock and root, you'll want to flash. Then the addiction begins!!!!!
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Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now

kennethk1 said:
Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now
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did you find that here... This is your first problem if you ask me, you come to xda to ask questions but you do not use the multiple root options that are stickied(for a reason mind you). Try to use a root from another area. Do yourself a favor and read the wugs thread or mskip. No need to go looking elsewhere since its all right in here.
If you have bricked other phone and not sure about what to do then I suggest you enjoy HSPA+ and try and deal with the buttons. Its a great phone and selling cheap now but that does not mean your brick it if you are not sure about rooting.

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did you find that here... This is your first problem if you ask me, you come to xda to ask questions but you do not use the multiple root options that are stickied(for a reason mind you). Try to use a root from another area. Do yourself a favor and read the wugs thread or mskip. No need to go looking elsewhere since its all right in here.
If you have bricked other phone and not sure about what to do then I suggest you enjoy HSPA+ and try and deal with the buttons. Its a great phone and selling cheap now but that does not mean your brick it if you are not sure about rooting.
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Let's try to not be rude here. I was simply asking if it was legit. No rule against asking questions like that is there?
I'm glad you enjoy that but I do not.
Enjoy your evening.

Nah my bad not rude at all just a straight forward person... Sorry if you took it wrong but too me if you are worried don't root
Edit: I agree with below comment if you gonna do it learn it all but also that means take time to research as well and know what you are doing and what it takes to make it right in case something goes wrong.
Also as I read my thread I had some points there that were helpful again sorry you took it wrong way
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The only right way of unlocking & rooting your Nexus.
Learn why you do things, what happens at different stages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312

playya said:
Nah my bad not rude at all just a straight forward person... Sorry if you took it wrong but too me if you are worried don't root
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Edit: My bad its probably legit but I really only trust xda methods myself
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kennethk1 said:
Is One Click root legit?
http://www.oneclickroot.com/download-now
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IMO the only thing daunting in this is the unlock procedure. Once unlocked then rooting, custom recoveries, custom roms, mods, themes, and all else become possible.
When I did it I went old school and used adb and the sdk and did everything manually. I learned a lot on the way, even as I was nervous and worried. I strongly recommend this approach though as it will help you to understand your phone and its operating system. And you also can begin to appreciate the beauty of open-source.
Just follow the directions in the guides posted here at XDA. Go slow. Read. Download the requirements. Be patient. Be meticulous. You will be ok... And if you really don't want to get your hands dirty use one of the 'kits' also available for download here at XDA.

playya said:
Edit: My bad its probably legit but I really only trust xda methods myself
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It's understandable, I'm really just looking at which is the best and easiest method since there seems to be tons of options.
way2muchcoff said:
IMO the only thing daunting in this is the unlock procedure. Once unlocked, rooting, custom recoveries, custom roms, mods, themes, and all else become possible. When I did it I went old school and used adb and the sdk and did everything manually. I learned a lot on the way, even as I was nervous and worried. I strongly recommend this approach though as it will help you to understand your phone and its operating system. And you also can begin to appreciate the beauty of open-source. Just follow the directions in the guides posted here at XDA. You will be ok. And if you really don't want to get your hands dirty use one of the 'kits' also available for download here at XDA.
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The weird thing was I installed superuser just fine then went to install a few roms and couldn't get anything to work..
I'm just afraid of having a new phone and it instantly being paperweight.

kennethk1 said:
It's understandable, I'm really just looking at which is the best and easiest method since there seems to be tons of options.
The weird thing was I installed superuser just fine then went to install a few roms and couldn't get anything to work..
I'm just afraid of having a new phone and it instantly being paperweight.
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sounds to me that you are not sure of yourself or have not done enough homework prior to flashing or rooting.. If thats the case leave your new phone alone and just enjoy it. Rooting is honeslty easy and fun but if you are not sure of yourself it could be a nightmare.
Its unlock bootloader run a command to push recovery and flash and su.zip quite simple by original 40 step Evo root procedure back in the days

That's the reason for old school. If you get a handle on the basics of adb your phone is almost indestructable from an OS and software standpoint because you can just return to stock images if things go south a little bit....
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My advice: just do it!
The fear will vanish.....
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I say go for it.
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So guess what, I rooted and everything got Miui rom installed went to restore now my phones stuck on fastboot menu.
Any links on how to get 4.3 back on or am I screwed? cmd still detects my phone, theres gotta be a way to get out of this?
Never mind! Was able to download the stock img from google and restore the phone, whew.

I installed root from twrp when it offerd for me, what do i do now to get rid of it?

I installed root from twrp when it offerd for me, what do i do now to get rid of it?

Use the unsu.zip file that is in the original SU thread. Just flash that and it should get rid of it!

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Use the unsu.zip file that is in the original SU thread. Just flash that and it should get rid of it!
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my device is not booting after installing the twrp root and now i think its stuck.

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my device is not booting after installing the twrp root and now i think its stuck.
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Hmm, can you reboot to bootloader? If so, use Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock and unbrick and start from there. Never install the SU that twrp suggests!!

@twrp, please fix this! its like a accident waiting to happen. I almost did this myself so many times.

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Hmm, can you reboot to bootloader? If so, use Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock and unbrick and start from there. Never install the SU that twrp suggests!!
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He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
This is to OP.
YOU really need to stop messing with you're phone and learn what you're doing before you actually brick you're phone. What you have right now is not a brick and is incredibly easy to fix for someone who knows what they're doing. Do some reading and learning or you're going to end up with a fancy paperweight.
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He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
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I understand what you are saying, but the toolkit is good if you are really stuck and are unsure of what to do. I do agree that learning the correct fastboot techniques is the best idea though!!

toknitup420 said:
He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
This is to OP.
YOU really need to stop messing with you're phone and learn what you're doing before you actually brick you're phone. What you have right now is not a brick and is incredibly easy to fix for someone who knows what they're doing. Do some reading and learning or you're going to end up with a fancy paperweight.
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can you link me to something that will help me fix it? and btw can i flash a factory image thats newer than mine?

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I understand what you are saying, but the toolkit is good if you are really stuck and are unsure of what to do. I do agree that learning the correct fastboot techniques is the best idea though!!
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what is a video i can watch on how to do it?

shotgun10ga said:
can you link me to something that will help me fix it? and btw can i flash a factory image thats newer than mine?
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I've already told you to use @Heisenberg guide like 3 or 4 times. Everything you need is in there. Legit everything. No more threads. You need to practice and learn this stuff. I know I'm coming off like a prick. But you need to try to learn this stuff or you're going to screw yourself. The guide is right in the stickies section of Q&A.
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