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first question is Im looking into rooting and unlocking my nexus 7 32gb wifi tablet any feedback on which recovery is the most stable of the 2. second question is im thinking of going with one of the 1 click root will that be a good idea or should i just try the regular rooting process with adb etc. thank you so much in advance
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first question is Im looking into rooting and unlocking my nexus 7 32gb wifi tablet any feedback on which recovery is the most stable of the 2. second question is im thinking of going with one of the 1 click root will that be a good idea or should i just try the regular rooting process with adb etc. thank you so much in advance
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1. both are equally good its just about personal preference
2. use toolkit since i think its much safer than trying it using traditional method
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thank you for your input
I would say twrp is much better and that's only somewhat subjunctive as I haven't used clockwork on any device for a long time...
But I would stay away from toolkits as they aren't safer and you don't learn the basics yourself. Rooting a nexus device is far from complicated and if something goes wrong in the future you will at least have a concept of how to fix it.
Again my opinion may not be fair as I have never used a toolkit for any device, but I always read up on them... personally I feel if one can not obtain root without one they probably shouldn't have root access, I've seen many many bricks over the years and more often then not it is because the user didn't understand what they were doing... point being is a toolkit won't help you understand
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I would say twrp is much better and that's only somewhat subjunctive as I haven't used clockwork on any device for a long time...
But I would stay away from toolkits as they aren't safer and you don't learn the basics yourself. Rooting a nexus device is far from complicated and if something goes wrong in the future you will at least have a concept of how to fix it.
Again my opinion may not be fair as I have never used a toolkit for any device, but I always read up on them... personally I feel if one can not obtain root without one they probably shouldn't have root access, I've seen many many bricks over the years and more often then not it is because the user didn't understand what they were doing... point being is a toolkit won't help you understand
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I agree with demkantor regarding toolkits, they are not any safer than running adb and fastboot commands yourself. In fact, if you take a look at most of the "oh noes! am I bricked?!" threads, the common theme is "I tried to do X with the X toolkit". With Nexus devices there is really no advantage to a using toolkit. Everything you need to do can be done faster via adb and fastboot, and you'll be in control every step of the way. Don't buy in to the FUD about it being dangerous or "scary" to use these tools, it simply isn't true.
ngoralph said:
1. both are equally good its just about personal preference
2. use toolkit since i think its much safer than trying it using traditional method
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nexus devices are made to be easily/safely unlocked and rooted through traditiinal methods. fastboot oem unlock(thank you google), flash a custom recovery, flash the su binaries or a custom rom, then reboot. thats it. using root toolkits are more dangerous, especially if you are inexperienced.
Hi all,
I see the android development section has a lot of goodies in there and i have had great experience with custom ROMs on my old Galaxy S1. But for the GN4. Is there any value addition to the stock ROM, in the custom builds so far?. Kindly share your feedback on the custom ROMs that you.
P.S: I haven't yet rooted the device (i know) ... can someone kindly send me the easiest way to do that as well.
Thanks a bunch for your time.
As far as rooting go just download the toolkit from the dev section follow the instructions on that thread.
And with the custom roms read the thread try them out every dev adds there own tweets. You can always go back to a backup
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Personally, I read through the pinned threads and unlocked my bootloader, flashed touch CWM and rooted my phone right after getting it. As for custom ROMs - I don't feel the slightest urge as the rom is imho perfect; although I was a keen flasher before I sold my Galaxy S II.
Custom ROM for N4 are very stable and smooth like stock, maybe even more smoother. More feature like editing nav bar and so on. Happy flashing
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Thanks guys. definitely gona root the device, gona make a nand and try a couple of customs out as well.
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As far as rooting go just download the toolkit from the dev section follow the instructions on that thread.
And with the custom roms read the thread try them out every dev adds there own tweets. You can always go back to a backup
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Highly advise against doing this. Prefer yarox method do it manually as you'll need to do fast boot and adb commands eventually. Just take the 20-25 minutes and learn how to do it now. It's very easy and they are stickied for a reason.
Toolkits are very dangerous. The shortcut isn't worth it.
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zephiK said:
Highly advise against doing this. Prefer yarox method do it manually as you'll need to do fast boot and adb commands eventually. Just take the 20-25 minutes and learn how to do it now. It's very easy and they are stickied for a reason.
Toolkits are very dangerous. The shortcut isn't worth it.
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Never liked them!! Besides you don't learn anything using toolkits...
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Never liked them!! Besides you don't learn anything using toolkits...
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Exactly. It's not like you're learning useless crap that you wouldn't use.
In fact for anyone flashing anything on their phone and not knowing a plan b if something goes wrong is scary, then they start panicking and out of no where make a forum thread. Bricked phone??? Uh no man. Anyone bricking a nexus device doesn't deserve one to be honest. It's so hard to brick one because of fast boot factory stock images.
A simple 20-25 minute step by step guide. It pretty much carries you through it and is more important than that lecture you attend every Tuesday that chances are you'd fall asleep because the professor isn't enthusiastic with his studies
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May I suggest using wug's nexus root toolkit. Safe and easy with just clicking your mouse. You will be amaze!
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May I suggest using wug's nexus root toolkit. Safe and easy with just clicking your mouse. You will be amaze!
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No. Did you really just say that after what we just said?
It's easy using a toolkit but also very easy to screw up your phone because people using it are clueless and flash whatever links making their phone into a non boot able state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 is a great read on this topic.
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No. Did you really just say that after what we just said?
It's easy using a toolkit but also very easy to screw up your phone because people using it are clueless and flash whatever links making their phone into a non boot able state.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469909 is a great read on this topic.
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But the thing is people can choose whatever method they want to root their phone. Old way using adb or the new step by step on screen instruction toolkit. I choose toolkit to root my n4 just to try it out. I was just amaze how wug's toolkit was so easy as it had on screen instructions every click. I don't see how newbies could brick using wug's toolkit. I don't really care what method people use.
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But the thing is people can choose whatever method they want to root their phone. Old way using adb or the new step by step on screen instruction toolkit. I choose toolkit to root my n4 just to try it out. I was just amaze how wug's toolkit was so easy as it had on screen instructions every click. I don't see how newbies could brick using wug's toolkit. I don't really care what method people use.
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It's not the OLD way whatsoever. It's not newbies bricking their phones using the toolkit. It's what they do AFTERWARDS, go read the Q&A forums. Many of the problems coming out of threads are from users doing things that they don't understand because they lack the basic knowledge of the Android system with ADB & Fastboot (they mention toolkit in OP post). Some people rooted using the toolkit and they don't even know how to flash a flashable zip or even restore their phone back to stock because they want to send it in for a RMA.
Like I said in many threads, two methods,
1) Learn how to get from Point A to Point B by using a map and planning it out
2) Using a toolkit and have it get you from Point A to Point B without knowing how you got there.
Let's see what happens.
1) Since you planned it out and have a map beforehand using a step-by-step guide (its not hard) you can remap yourself on how to get there. What if you went to back half way because you forgot to pick up something at the store? You know how to get there
2) Toolkit... oh im at point B, i want to go to the supermarket at Point A.5, how do I get there? exactly. You don't know, you then proceed to ask questions on how to get there (in this case it would be Q&A forum on how to fix their phone because its not booting up).
By spending 20-25 minutes, people are aware of how fastboot works and how to restore their phone when its in a nonbootable state and not mistakenly say that their phone is bricked. This is XDA developers not XDA shortcuts
No one asked for your opinion on what method people used so I don't care that you don't care either?
Next time you should read the thread I posted before commenting. It has nothing to do with 'old ways' vs 'new ways.' If toolkit is the new way then oh man... we are in deep trouble.
Just like my two cases, he couldn't say it any better.
The people who are using these scripts aren't learning what is actually happening when they press 1 on their keyboard. Boom, their phone is unlocked, su-binaries and cwm recovery installed. Then, they flash a rom without creating a nandroid. What happens if something goes wrong and they didn't place any safety nets to help them? They post a thread saying their phone is bricked. People take time out of their day to help these people out, but since the user doesn't understand what the helper is talking about, they can't fix it.
Just last weekend I spent 30 minutes replying to a PM with step by step instructions how to flash stock images and including links to files and resources. The person replied back. Instead of fixing his phone himself, he said he "claimed his phone as stolen and will be getting sent a new one lol". WTF?! Not only is that morally wrong, it's also insurance fraud. And we wonder why carriers and OEM's are trying as hard as they can to lock down non-nexus phones.
Please, take the time to learn how to get yourself out of a mess before you are in a mess.
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I don't constantly post in threads about "OH DONT USE A TOOLKIT ITS TOO EASY. go old fashion with command prompt" for no reason. I do it with a good reason and no one should ever endorse toolkits for this very reason. Learn how to do it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to fastboot/adb when it's in a step-by-step tutorial. It's not hard to unlock a bootloader on a Nexus device. If it was a device with a difficult unlocking method through a exploit, then yes I would endorse a toolkit but for a Nexus its so easy to unlock.
1. set up ADB (do it once and you're SET for life on that computer.. dont have to do it again).
2. install ADB drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. boot into bootloader using combo keys
4. command prompt into fastboot -> fastboot oem unlock
5. fastboot flash recovery <whateverthenametherecoveryis>.img
6. DONE.
@zephik
You've inspired me. I don't have my N4 yet but just got my 7 for Christmas. I'm going to pop it back to stock and redo the whole process manually.
I knew I was taking the lazy way out, you have guilted me into doing it properly as you said you learn nothing from a toolkit. Lol
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@zephik
You've inspired me. I don't have my N4 yet but just got my 7 for Christmas. I'm going to pop it back to stock and redo the whole process manually.
I knew I was taking the lazy way out, you have guilted me into doing it properly as you said you learn nothing from a toolkit. Lol
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Glad to know that I can do a kind of a change. If you need any further assistance or questions ahead of time, feel free to PM me.
Honestly, I'm not doing it to be a bad guy or to waste people's time. If it wasn't important, then I wouldn't stress how imperative ADB & Fastboot are to ANY device, but particularly towards Nexus devices. Fastboot isn't present in all devices, other devices such as Samsung Galaxy etc etc use Odin (Samsung's Firmware Flasher) which is the same thing but its more GUI friendly but it can still cause bricks and fastboot is easier in my opinion.
Just like what franco said,
Why would something happen? This kernel won't brick anything, a Nexus is pretty unbrickable unless someone is very dumb or simply a hardware bug ****s the device up. If anyone bricks this device or any Nexus I'll award him idiot of the year trophy.
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It is REALLY REALLY difficult to brick a Nexus device, and I'm not surprised that it does happen to people because they use the toolkit and aren't aware of what they're doing. It's like solving a math problem, what's the point in getting spoon fed the answer? Just work it out. Except for Nexus devices, you don't even have to work it out!!! all you do is read a GUIDE that one person spent time on writing up. At least have the decency on reading it. You read it, and you do the step, then proceed until you're at the end. It's not difficult, and you get to know what you're doing it and why you are doing it.
People do things and their phone cant boot up but can access bootloader mode. They don't even know how to fastboot flash and then post a thread in Q&A forum saying their phone is bricked.
And you don't have to redo the 7 process lol. Manually unlocking bootloader is one thing and then knowing how to flash is the easy part.
Even the ghetto guide I posted a couple posts above works for any nexus device.
1. set up ADB environment (google sdk) basically get fastboot binary.. if you want ADB you'll need the adb.exe binary
2. install drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. bootloader mode
4. fastboot oem unlock
5. unlock the phone on screen using vol keys
6. fastboot flash whatever.img [put in same folder as fastboot.exe]
7. done. you successfully flashed a 3rd-party recovery. now just put a zip file on the sdcard when android starts
8. receovery, wipe factory/dalvik/cache
9. flash rom,gapps(optional depending what rom), kernel (optional)
10. congrats you flashed a rom and kernel.
@zephiK. Thanks for the expert advice. I used Samsung S1 in the past and never used adb, was scared of it. I took your advice. Followed the guide and got rooted, the adb way. I have to admit. It was pretty satisfying to know what i was doing. Thanks again to everyone here.
thanks
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It's not the OLD way whatsoever. It's not newbies bricking their phones using the toolkit. It's what they do AFTERWARDS, go read the Q&A forums. Many of the problems coming out of threads are from users doing things that they don't understand because they lack the basic knowledge of the Android system with ADB & Fastboot (they mention toolkit in OP post). Some people rooted using the toolkit and they don't even know how to flash a flashable zip or even restore their phone back to stock because they want to send it in for a RMA.
Like I said in many threads, two methods,
1) Learn how to get from Point A to Point B by using a map and planning it out
2) Using a toolkit and have it get you from Point A to Point B without knowing how you got there.
Let's see what happens.
1) Since you planned it out and have a map beforehand using a step-by-step guide (its not hard) you can remap yourself on how to get there. What if you went to back half way because you forgot to pick up something at the store? You know how to get there
2) Toolkit... oh im at point B, i want to go to the supermarket at Point A.5, how do I get there? exactly. You don't know, you then proceed to ask questions on how to get there (in this case it would be Q&A forum on how to fix their phone because its not booting up).
By spending 20-25 minutes, people are aware of how fastboot works and how to restore their phone when its in a nonbootable state and not mistakenly say that their phone is bricked. This is XDA developers not XDA shortcuts
No one asked for your opinion on what method people used so I don't care that you don't care either?
Next time you should read the thread I posted before commenting. It has nothing to do with 'old ways' vs 'new ways.' If toolkit is the new way then oh man... we are in deep trouble.
Just like my two cases, he couldn't say it any better.
I don't constantly post in threads about "OH DONT USE A TOOLKIT ITS TOO EASY. go old fashion with command prompt" for no reason. I do it with a good reason and no one should ever endorse toolkits for this very reason. Learn how to do it, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know how to fastboot/adb when it's in a step-by-step tutorial. It's not hard to unlock a bootloader on a Nexus device. If it was a device with a difficult unlocking method through a exploit, then yes I would endorse a toolkit but for a Nexus its so easy to unlock.
1. set up ADB (do it once and you're SET for life on that computer.. dont have to do it again).
2. install ADB drivers http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514942
3. boot into bootloader using combo keys
4. command prompt into fastboot -> fastboot oem unlock
5. fastboot flash recovery <whateverthenametherecoveryis>.img
6. DONE.
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wow. good post. thanks a lot!
Is wallet working on all to Roms? Sorry to butt in this thread..
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@zephiK. Thanks for the expert advice. I used Samsung S1 in the past and never used adb, was scared of it. I took your advice. Followed the guide and got rooted, the adb way. I have to admit. It was pretty satisfying to know what i was doing. Thanks again to everyone here.
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Not a expert advice by any means. Just been around for a long time so I observe the commonalities between all users. I just really dislike it when people say or recommend things when really they don't know anything. Not saying I'm perfect by any means, but people need to stop being so cocky on the forums acting like they know everything. Instead of trying to defend themselves, ask questions on why I feel this way or whatever.
That's what forums are all about right? That's what XDA is all about. Spreading information. Not clicking a button that spoon feeds you something and you don't know how or why it's like that.
If someone gave you a car with one click (toolkit), what's the point in having a car if you can't drive it? (Toolkit) do you expect to click one button and the car drives you from home to where you need to be and back? What happens if it doesn't work? You ask questions on how to do this and th at.
You have to go through the procedure of learning how to use it. If you learn from the beginning (like I said, it's not hard, if it was then it's understandable about a toolkit) then it'll be a breeze. When I first got started, I was a lurker on XDA, I didn't post. All I did was read. I didn't have toolkits, I had to telnet my G1 to obtain root access through a exploit that took 40-55 minutes, one mess up and I would of bricked my phone and i had to do it with my hands, that's a scary thought knowing that you can't go back once you started. People nowadays should be grateful that unlocking bootloaders aren't as difficult anymore but yet people still feel the need to use a toolkit when it already is simple.
wow. good post. thanks a lot!
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I didn't post it. That guy did. Definitely a great read and pretty much what I always believed in when I saw a toolkit. Should be banned from the forums but eh, who am I to call the shots
Is wallet working on all to Roms? Sorry to butt in this thread..
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Yes Google Wallet works on any ROM as well as kernel. It says incompatible because you're rooted but it should work regardless of that text on the top of the app. Flash away!
Edit: May 5, 2009: http://androidandme.com/2009/05/beg...r-rooting-your-android-g1-to-install-cupcake/
August 17, 2009: http://androidandme.com/2009/08/news/how-to-root-a-t-mobile-g1-and-mytouch-3g-android-phone/
First guide one of the first rooting methods. August 17 is sort of one clickish but you still had to do a lot of things to get through it. So as you can see, it's not spoon fed to you, compare that to what you have to do now. Tell me that unlocking the Nexus bootloader is hard after reading all that ... it isn't.
@zephiK Can you link me to where it shows me how to root, and install CWM? Please
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@zephiK Can you link me to where it shows me how to root, and install CWM? Please
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019273
I actually prefer TWRP over CWM. Your preference though.
Both can be found in Android Development Forum.
If I unlock my boot loader and root my phone and flash AOKP, with the stock kernel, would my battery be the same? My battery is perfect right now and I don't want a different kernel installed that could change my battery life...any thoughts?
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pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
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pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
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Hmm sounds cool...I really want AOKP cause of all the customization but I'm scared I'm going to brick my phone trying to unlock the boot loader or something
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pretty sure battery will only get better. go for it.
FYI: dont get it mixed up. you dont need "root access" to flash AOKP. root is independent of flashing a rom, it isnt a pre-requisite.
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But you can't flash a custom ROM until after you root..........
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But you can't flash a custom ROM until after you root..........
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Uh, yeah you can.
I do this for every of my Nexus phone
1. put zips on my phone [rom, gapps, kernel]
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery <twrp or cwr>.img
4. boot into recovery
5. flash custom rom
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no root. root comes from my custom rom.
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Uh, yeah you can.
I do this for every of my Nexus phone
1. put zips on my phone [rom, gapps, kernel]
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery <twrp or cwr>.img
4. boot into recovery
5. flash custom rom
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Interesting. I've always flashed an insecure boot.img first, I suppose you are right. Oh well, I stand corrected.
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Interesting. I've always flashed an insecure boot.img first, I suppose you are right. Oh well, I stand corrected.
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Oh I've never done that method. Isn't that the method of obtaining root without unlocking your bootloader or something? I never done that approach.
Root is needed if you wish to flash your recovery via a app such as Clockwork Recovery (flashing it with ROM Manager) or using Goo Manager to flash TWRP.
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Oh I've never done that method. Isn't that the method of obtaining root without unlocking your bootloader or something? I never done that approach.
Root is needed if you wish to flash your recovery via a app such as Clockwork Recovery (flashing it with ROM Manager) or using Goo Manager to flash TWRP.
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No it is the method of flashing recovery through an app as you mentioned. I don't believe there is a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. Either way, I fastboot oem unlock before I do anything else, so I wouldn't really know haha. Either way, to each his own sir.
Happy new year!
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No it is the method of flashing recovery through an app as you mentioned. I don't believe there is a way to root without unlocking the bootloader. Either way, I fastboot oem unlock before I do anything else, so I wouldn't really know haha. Either way, to each his own sir.
Happy new year!
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Same here. I get my phone, first thing I do is oem unlock that way I can always back up my apps before I jump ship to a custom ROM.
On the Galaxy Nexus there was a way, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894717 but it was done through a exploit.
happy new years to you as well
Soooo is it possible to hard brick a Nexus? Or can you only soft brick it?
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Scoutamis said:
Soooo is it possible to hard brick a Nexus? Or can you only soft brick it?
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Close to impossible to hard brick a Nexus. Some people come close to it because they don't know what they're doing and often mistaken it to be a soft-brick.
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Close to impossible to hard brick a Nexus. Some people come close to it because they don't know what they're doing and often mistaken it to be a soft-brick.
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So I take it it's a lot harder than a Galaxy S III....
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Scoutamis said:
So I take it it's a lot harder than a Galaxy S III....
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Never used a Galaxy S3, so I can't comment on that but I do know one benefit of Nexus devices it to have the ability to fastboot. Fastboot is your best friend (it helps you restore back to stock etc etc)
Not a huge fan of Samsung's Odin System (Samsung's version of Fastboot).
Honestly, I don't think that you can brick this phone unless you don't read at all and just do something really stupid which at that point you deserve to be bricked
a Nexus is pretty unbrickable unless someone is very dumb or simply a hardware bug ****s the device up. If anyone bricks this device or any Nexus I'll award him idiot of the year trophy. -Franco
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zephiK said:
Never used a Galaxy S3, so I can't comment on that but I do know one benefit of Nexus devices it to have the ability to fastboot. Fastboot is your best friend (it helps you restore back to stock etc etc)
Not a huge fan of Samsung's Odin System (Samsung's version of Fastboot)
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Ohh...well there were a lot of people complaining about hard bricking in the GSIII forums so I assume Nexus devices are harder to brick...and Fastboot is part of adv or something isn't it?
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Ohh...well there were a lot of people complaining about hard bricking in the GSIII forums so I assume Nexus devices are harder to brick...and Fastboot is part of adv or something isn't it?
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They are harder to brick. The usual 'brick' threads for the N4 are cases of soft bricks which people are using the term wrongly when it is a soft brick and not a hard brick. There's the occasional "red LED" which I never encountered but you can search on your own about that.
Part of adv? what does that mean? Fastboot is at it's very deep level same as bootloader mode
This is why I never endorse the toolkit. People don't know how to use fastboot and tend to get themselves in icky situations because they got a free ride.
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They are harder to brick. The usual 'brick' threads for the N4 are cases of soft bricks which people are using the term wrongly when it is a soft brick and not a hard brick. There's the occasional "red LED" which I never encountered but you can search on your own about that.
Part of adv? what does that mean? Fastboot is at it's very deep level same as bootloader mode
This is why I never endorse the toolkit. People don't know how to use fastboot and tend to get themselves in icky situations because they got a free ride.
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I meant adb sorry auto correct
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Scoutamis said:
I meant adb sorry auto correct
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Fastboot and adb are separate. Every phone has adb.
ADB = Android Device Bridge.
Every Android phone has adb.
Fastboot is deep down to it's bootloader level. Not all phones have fastboot.
zephiK said:
Fastboot and adb are separate. Every phone has adb.
ADB = Android Device Bridge.
Every Android phone has adb.
Fastboot is deep down to it's bootloader level. Not all phones have fastboot.
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Ohhh okay thanks I'll go look up how to unlock the boot loader and root then
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Scoutamis said:
Ohhh okay thanks I'll go look up how to unlock the boot loader and root then
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972508 is a guide to get you started if you have any ongoing questions. Feel free to post in this thread and I (or others) will help you out. Ask anything you may be confused about
Yeah I actually have 2 questions. 1. Will re-locking the bootloader erase everything? 2. How do I back up my phone?
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Hi all, i got a Nexus 7 one months ago and i like it very much. I love stock jb it's very smooth and fast but i want to flash cm 10.1 cause i flashed it in every phone i had and finally i can have the official one!
Now, i searched and read a lot but i can't understand if it's better to unlock root and flash manually or through one of the toolkit for the N 7. What do you think about it?
Are there some risks with the toolkits? Thank you :highfive:
Prosper Meniere said:
Hi all, i got a Nexus 7 one months ago and i like it very much. I love stock jb it's very smooth and fast but i want to flash cm 10.1 cause i flashed it in every phone i had and finally i can have the official one!
Now, i searched and read a lot but i can't understand if it's better to unlock root and flash manually or through one of the toolkit for the N 7. What do you think about it?
Are there some risks with the toolkits? Thank you :highfive:
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Hi, Prosper Meniere..
I don't think there's any real risk from toolkits... many of them do an admirable job... but I think if you really want to LEARN and gain COMPLETE control of your device, then MANUAL is the way to go.
Learn about ADB and FASTBOOT... it's really not that complicated...
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There are four basic steps to rooting and/or flashing your favoured ROM...
1) Unlock the bootloader.
2) Fastboot flash a custom recovery - (TWRP or CWM).
3) Using that recovery...
--- flash Chainfire's SU updater package --- to gain ROOT.
--- OR alternatively, flash a CUSTOM ROM --- which likely will already be ROOTED.
4) Reboot... and that's it.. seriously - it that's simple.
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Toolkits 'mask' or hide the basic fundamentals of what they do from the end user (for ease of use, of course) ... but because their algorithms and heuristics CANNOT POSSIBLY COVER EVERY SINGLE CONTINGENCY... some situations may arise where you may to have to deal with FASTBOOT and ADB directly, and maybe even some TERMINAL emulator stuff.
So, I think it's better to acquaint yourself with that knowledge sooner... rather than later...
Anyway... just my thoughts.
Rgrds,
Ged.
GedBlake said:
Hi, Prosper Meniere..
I don't think there's any real risk from toolkits... many of them do an admirable job... but I think if you really want to LEARN and gain COMPLETE control of your device, then MANUAL is the way to go.
Learn about ADB and FASTBOOT... it's really not that complicated...
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There are four basic steps to rooting and/or flashing your favoured ROM...
1) Unlock the bootloader.
2) Fastboot flash a custom recovery - (TWRP or CWM).
3) Using that recovery...
--- flash Chainfire's SU updater package --- to gain ROOT.
--- OR alternatively, flash a CUSTOM ROM --- which likely will already be ROOTED.
4) Reboot... and that's it.. seriously - it that's simple.
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Toolkits 'mask' or hide the basic fundamentals of what they do from the end user (for ease of use, of course) ... but because their algorithms and heuristics CANNOT POSSIBLY COVER EVERY SINGLE CONTINGENCY... some situations may arise where you may to have to deal with FASTBOOT and ADB directly, and maybe even some TERMINAL emulator stuff.
So, I think it's better to acquaint yourself with that knowledge sooner... rather than later...
Anyway... just my thoughts.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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Your answer is right i have to do it manually if i want to learn. Thank you. But because i had to do it manually with my phones (galaxy ace, xperia sola) i saw these toolkit and i was curious. But like you say the manual way is the best one. Thank you man i'm gonna do it right now! :highfive:
Prosper Meniere said:
Your answer is right i have to do it manually if i want to learn. Thank you. But because i had to do it manually with my phones (galaxy ace, xperia sola) i saw these toolkit and i was curious. But like you say the manual way is the best one. Thank you man i'm gonna do it right now! :highfive:
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I also agree. Best to learn the manual method first. I will be honest, I use the tool kits, but I CAN do it the manual way and have as needed. Good luck!
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hlxanthus said:
I also agree. Best to learn the manual method first. I will be honest, I use the tool kits, but I CAN do it the manual way and have as needed. Good luck!
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I'm wondering if I should learn a bit more about Toolkits - maybe try Wugs... so at least can I understand what hell people are going on about .
Rgrds,
Ged.
I installed root from twrp when it offerd for me, what do i do now to get rid of it?
Use the unsu.zip file that is in the original SU thread. Just flash that and it should get rid of it!
gman88667733 said:
Use the unsu.zip file that is in the original SU thread. Just flash that and it should get rid of it!
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my device is not booting after installing the twrp root and now i think its stuck.
shotgun10ga said:
my device is not booting after installing the twrp root and now i think its stuck.
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Hmm, can you reboot to bootloader? If so, use Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock and unbrick and start from there. Never install the SU that twrp suggests!!
@twrp, please fix this! its like a accident waiting to happen. I almost did this myself so many times.
gman88667733 said:
Hmm, can you reboot to bootloader? If so, use Nexus Root Toolkit to flash stock and unbrick and start from there. Never install the SU that twrp suggests!!
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He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
This is to OP.
YOU really need to stop messing with you're phone and learn what you're doing before you actually brick you're phone. What you have right now is not a brick and is incredibly easy to fix for someone who knows what they're doing. Do some reading and learning or you're going to end up with a fancy paperweight.
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toknitup420 said:
He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
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I understand what you are saying, but the toolkit is good if you are really stuck and are unsure of what to do. I do agree that learning the correct fastboot techniques is the best idea though!!
toknitup420 said:
He should learn how to use fastboot and do it properly without a tool kit. Tool kits lead to nothing but problems.
This is to OP.
YOU really need to stop messing with you're phone and learn what you're doing before you actually brick you're phone. What you have right now is not a brick and is incredibly easy to fix for someone who knows what they're doing. Do some reading and learning or you're going to end up with a fancy paperweight.
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can you link me to something that will help me fix it? and btw can i flash a factory image thats newer than mine?
gman88667733 said:
I understand what you are saying, but the toolkit is good if you are really stuck and are unsure of what to do. I do agree that learning the correct fastboot techniques is the best idea though!!
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what is a video i can watch on how to do it?
shotgun10ga said:
can you link me to something that will help me fix it? and btw can i flash a factory image thats newer than mine?
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I've already told you to use @Heisenberg guide like 3 or 4 times. Everything you need is in there. Legit everything. No more threads. You need to practice and learn this stuff. I know I'm coming off like a prick. But you need to try to learn this stuff or you're going to screw yourself. The guide is right in the stickies section of Q&A.
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