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Boot Loader questions

Hey guys I recently bought an atrix off craigslist. It's the bell version and is running GreyBlur and is rooted. How do I tell if the bootloader is unlocked or not? I tried flashing clockwork mod through adb and it kept saying failed to flash, so I became suspicious that the bootloader is locked, ( I previously though that since im running a ROM, the bootloader must be unlocked) Correct me if im wrong, thanks

Vik_92_Sandhu said:
Hey guys I recently bought an atrix off craigslist. It's the bell version and is running GreyBlur and is rooted. How do I tell if the bootloader is unlocked or not? I tried flashing clockwork mod through adb and it kept saying failed to flash, so I became suspicious that the bootloader is locked, ( I previously though that since im running a ROM, the bootloader must be unlocked) Correct me if im wrong, thanks
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Only has to be rooted, not unlocked to run a P-ROM which is what you have with GreyBlur. It's not an actual ROM.

oh I see, so most likely the bootloader is locked because it fails when trying to flash clock work mod. Is it safe to unlock the bootloader when running a P-Rom ? I was reading the forums about people bricking their devices by ota updates and SBF files, or do those things only happen once your bootloader is unlocked? Thanks

You got everything mixed up...
Vik_92_Sandhu said:
oh I see, so most likely the bootloader is locked because it fails when trying to flash clock work mod.
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If bootloader is unlocked you should see "Unlocked" at the upper left corner at boot screen (the first one, with dual core logo).
You couldn't flash clockwordmod because it's not officially supported, you should use the ones provided at the dev forum (either for the locked or the unlocked bootloader)
Is it safe to unlock the bootloader when running a P-Rom ? I was reading the forums about people bricking their devices by ota updates and SBF files, or do those things only happen once your bootloader is unlocked? Thanks
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P-ROMs has nothing to do with unlocking. P-ROM is just a heavily modified version of an official motoblur ROM.
About the bricking... well, there is always a chance of bricking if you don't know what you are doing and don't read instructions carefully till you understand everything. But if you follow everything as stated, most likely you won't brick.
Cheers

U should get on google+ we chat this up often
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I wish I had google plus, never got an invite, thanks for the info man , its very much appreciated, I used to have the captivate and thought it would be the same, but I was wrong. Those clarifications really help, thanks.
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edit: wait is tenfars CWM not supported?

frankiedizzle87 said:
U should get on google+ we chat this up often
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What's your name on it?
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ok guys
1) I unlocked my bootloader
2) Flashed Clockwork Mod
3) Placed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169409 on my sd card
4) tried to install zip using clockwork but it kept saying installation aborted
After that didnt work I tried using adb and moto-fastboot to flash the rom, it worked but now my phone is in boot loop. I tried deleting user data and tried reflashing the rom but still in bootloop. What is the next step I should do, I know i'm one wrong step away from a brick so I really want to be carefull.
Should I try flashing a different rom using moto fastboot? thanks

Clockworkmod recovery

Hi all. Im from the uk and have got the ATRIX on orange. I've rooted it using gingrebreak and all is good. I was just looking through rom manager and found that clockwork now has support for it. I want to install it but just need to know if it will work on my uk ATRIX, and if there's anything else I need to do like unlocking the bootloader? I've rooted and installed custom roms on my htc desire, which now runs f1 gingerbread and works great, so im not a complete noob lol. Just need a few pointers. Any help would be greeeeat. Cheers
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You'll need to have an unlocked bootloader to install this CWM build.

Ahh I see lol. Do u know if the uk orange bootloader can be unlocked yet? Thanks for replying
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gaddsta said:
Ahh I see lol. Do u know if the uk orange bootloader can be unlocked yet? Thanks for replying
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Yes it can! You'll have to start in the Atrix Development section, and go to the sticky that starts with [PUDDING]. That's where you'll find your unlock. There are a couple of guides floating around, so make sure you follow those completely!

I shall take a look and ill keep u posted. Thanks a lot
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Did this yesterday on my Telstra Atrix, bricked my phone, had to reinstall OLYEM_U4_1.4.2 and everything else from scratch, got boot error after install of CWM

Bricked? Maybe ill look some more before I commit to it. Might just wait a little longer for update then who knows. Hope ur ATRIX is well again
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gaddsta said:
Bricked? Maybe ill look some more before I commit to it. Might just wait a little longer for update then who knows. Hope ur ATRIX is well again
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He didn't hard brick, which is unrecoverable. He simply soft-bricked. He might not have unlocked his bootloader properly, or messed with something.
A hard brick can only happen if you flash an OTA update with an updated bootloader, and try to flash an older SBF file. That, in turn, would require use of NVFlash to unbrick, but NVFlash requires you to have your SBK, which seems impossible to get.
He soft bricked. That means that he just can't boot into the OS, and is easily fixed by restoring via Nandroid, or using an SBF file with RSDLite.

I have an international phone (Bell) and you need to flash the bootloader sbf. the international one is called IHOP then you can continue on to flash CWM, not sure if youve already done this but if you need help let me know.

[VIDEO] How to upgrade from stock 4.1.83 froyo to gingerbread 4.5.91

This is a video i made on how to unlock bootloader, install recovery cwm upgrade pretty much the whole process of going from 2.2.2 to 2.3.4 the quality isnt the greatest but it will do it took me reflashing my phone so i dont want any *****ing cause i didnt have to do this.
Credit to all developers who were mentioned, work was used or helped. None of this is my work i simply put together a detailed video guide around 30 minutes lol.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBdrp8_pRdI
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ-mnJrwzSI
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgjyrAXNGAc
hope this helps!
DONT FORGET TO THANK ME!
If there are any issues, easier ways of doing this or questions dont hesitate to let me know!
Although the official update is out this rom will allow you to flash back to stock for any reason and it has an unlcoked bootloader, at the moment i recomend it over the official ota

thanks for your efforts.
keep up the good work and do post screen shots also.

Will post screenshots now
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some more screen shots

Thx! Great guide
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Pizzaapu said:
Thx! Great guide
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your welcome! push the thanks button lol

Great!
Thanks
but i'm still having the issue that AT&T Kernel from 4.5.91 freezes my touchscreen completely :-(

So as of right now, you HAVE to unlock the bootloader in order to install GB ROMs correct?

noguefr said:
Great!
Thanks
but i'm still having the issue that AT&T Kernel from 4.5.91 freezes my touchscreen completely :-(
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when does it freeze, do you open a specific app on boot up? details so that i can be of as much help as possible

r34p3rex said:
So as of right now, you HAVE to unlock the bootloader in order to install GB ROMs correct?
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yes to my knowledge because you need the newest cwm which only works with an unlocked boot loader if anyone knows other wise please illuminate me to this as i would like to make a new guide
edit: actually i believe you can sbf the leaked ota from motorolla but not many people are doing this because if you try to revert to stock it hard bricks so this is the only way if u want to go back to 1.26 or 1.83 without a brick.

Wow, amazing work. Thanks for putting so much effort in!
I just got at AT&T Atrix that comes with 4.1.52, Froyo 2.2.1. Is the procedure going to be the same at this?
Thanks again.

modman21 said:
Wow, amazing work. Thanks for putting so much effort in!
I just got at AT&T Atrix that comes with 4.1.52, Froyo 2.2.1. Is the procedure going to be the same at this?
Thanks again.
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it is the same procedure once you ota to 1.83 im not sure if it will work on previous versions also this is only for att
edit: your welcome im glad to see people needed and appreciate it

thanks for the hand here.
In fact, after wipe/reboot immediatly after system is up, the touchscreen and volume buttons don't respond at all, the only button responding is the power button....

That's weird did you have any mods installed before this?
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noguefr said:
thanks for the hand here.
In fact, after wipe/reboot immediatly after system is up, the touchscreen and volume buttons don't respond at all, the only button responding is the power button....
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are you on an att atrix if so make sure you start fromSTOCK and that you do not unzip the update if this doesnt work try one of the other roms same process should work as long as they are zips that install through cwm if still no luck flash to stock and send ur atrix in as a touchscreen malfunction its covered under waranty

Couple Questions:
I have Gingerblur installed on 4.1.83, how do I go back to stock 4.1.83?
Does this procedure also root 4.5.91 or is that done separately?
Thanks

To go back to stock there is a zip in the themes section I believe that will revert or you can SBF back to stock
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MOD please link this in the how to's there doesnt need to be any more threads asking for a guide i will be updating soon and adding a video on how to sbf back and upgrade but for now the 50+ threads asking for a guide will find this sufficient.

If I install a CustomROM now, can I run an OTA upgrade when it becomes available? (I've got stock 4.1.83)
I'm just a bit scared to upgrade to CustomROM and become stucked to only other future CustomROMs.

You can't not directly from the custom Rom but you CAN sbf back to stock and it's update
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[Q] need some clarification on unlocked bootloader. Once unlocked, always unlocked?

I unlocked my bootloader at one time. I then and to revert to stock GB. Now when I boot up i no longer have the "unlocked" show up on the screen. I somehow, lost my recovery so I am trying to load the CWM variant and I'm running into issues.
I just want to clarify that since I unlocked it at one point, it is and will always be unlocked, correct? I thought I had read that you can not revert to a locked state.
Thanks,
clipse

It is unlocked, but you will need to flash an unlocked ROM or reunlock it to avoid the problems you are having. I had the same thing happen to me before. Even though it is unlocked, the phone doesn't recognize it because of the ROM.
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Thank you. I am trying to reunlock it but I keep getting "oem unlock is not implemented". Can't flash an unlocked rom because I don't have recovery and thats the only way I have done it in the past.
clipse

Did you flash the stock 4.5.91 sbf or what?
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Always unlocked. I have no idea on your issue though. Even though it doesnt say unlocked your fuse is still blown.
I voided my warranty.

thebeardedchild said:
Did you flash the stock 4.5.91 sbf or what?
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Yes I did.
I ended up finding the unlocker sbf files from the pudding thread. Flashed that and its all good. I am rocking alien for now.

clipse94 said:
Yes I did.
I ended up finding the unlocker sbf files from the pudding thread. Flashed that and its all good. I am rocking alien for now.
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So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.

phobos512 said:
So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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Lmao. Well, hopefully he flashed pudding like he implied and hes good.
I voided my warranty.

phobos512 said:
So you missed the warnings all over the place that say to NEVER flash SBFs once you've unlocked? Nice.
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Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.

clipse94 said:
Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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I wasn't referring to any thread in particular but there are several threads that suggest the use of SBFs should be stopped as they are often unpredictable.
You wouldn't know anything about that though because you didn't need to come in the forum to ask for help after you SBF'd your phone and it went bad, hm? Thought not.
Next time read the warnings. The disappearance of "UNLOCKED" is well documented.
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clipse94 said:
Always nice to see an ass.
I seen the warnings that say don't revert to froyo after unlocking. No warning about going back to stock GB. Read up more before you post.
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He wasnt the nicest about it, but dont use sbf anymore. You are risking HARD bricking your phone. Its always best to fastboot any kind of flash, especially radios, but you should be fine using a recovery to flash any compatible rom. Dont come asking what how do i unbrick my phone if you keep using sbf files.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Ok. So I should explain, I had to go the sbf route last time because I was having severe issues with the phone app fcing. I tried every possible other option and looked into any other way. Going the stock gb sbf was my last resort. That was several weeks ago. I just now decided to try another rom which is where I was having issues. So, unless you know the whole story........... I think proper etiquette is if you don't have anything constructive to say the stfu.
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Welcome to XDA dude, everything you say can and will be used against you. Doesn't matter what you do or how you word responses, someone will use it as an opportunity to flame you so they can feel superior. Sux that people have to act this way.
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Here's the deal-E-O. Once you unlock and yer OTA updated to gingerbread, the only safe *and I say that with respect to the fact that it could still lead to something bad * .sbf to flash is the stock Gingerbread 2.3.4 . It may not be safe for EVERYONE, maybe it's a case by case basis, but I know for me I can flash that and it reverts me to stock with no unlock appearing at startup anymore. Also, the 1.97 radio .sbf seems fine to flash , atleast on my phone. Again, I'm not saying you SHOULD. Just adding information. Good luck all.

Can we please stop the flame wars?
This is part of the reason why some devs are leaving.
Remember XDA is about community and helping others...
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So if i was running blue cronic and having FC issues and wanted to revert back to stock as possible and used this "1FF-olympus-user-2.3.4-4.5.91-110625-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P011.sbf" through RSD lite. Have I screwed myself up? My phone is working just fine right now it just no longer says unlocked at boot up and I obviously dont have root access any longer.
I was about to flash this "ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.sbf" through RSD lite but I came across this thread doing a "search" lol
This is what I originally used to unlock/root my phone. Should I just go back to it and let it do the magic again?
Automatic bootloader UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91 [UPDATE 07/31/11
UPDATE:Used the automatic script and everything is the way I want it. Stock look and blur but unlocked and rooted. Working just fine with no FCs

clipse94 said:
Ok. So I should explain, I had to go the sbf route last time because I was having severe issues with the phone app fcing. I tried every possible other option and looked into any other way. Going the stock gb sbf was my last resort. That was several weeks ago. I just now decided to try another rom which is where I was having issues. So, unless you know the whole story........... I think proper etiquette is if you don't have anything constructive to say the stfu.
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No.
You did not have to go the "SBF route" after unlocking. Fastboot bud, always.

Need to fix friends dx

I am an advanced user of a Samsung fascinate and really know nothing of the dx. With the fascinate we have a windows program called odin. With it, no matter what state your phone may be in or what ROM your on you can just enter download mode and flash the phone to stock.
ok. So my friend has a stock dx that i believe has a corruption somewhere. Its doing lots of weird things. No lockscreen.. Anything internet force closes. Stock launcher had not been working for quite some time..
I have read your dx stickys and am confused by the loops and hurdles to flash a stock image.
"if on this rom do this. If on that ROM do that. Or here's something easier do this, but make sure to boot strap this and don't sneeze."
Lol
What really is my best option for taking a stock phone to a out of box condition? Obviously i don't want backups of a broken system and would rather not root if i don't have to..
Sorry for the noobiness. i have never messed with a phone with encrypted loaders.
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Follow the SBF tutorial that is stickied.
You're going to want the 602 sbf file.
You can then use About>Check for update to get on 605 (Newest).

Jubakuba said:
Follow the SBF tutorial that is stickied.
You're going to want the 602 sbf file.
You can then use About>Check for update to get on 605 (Newest).
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Thanks.. No need to root then? Just download mode and flash with the program?
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neh4pres said:
Thanks.. No need to root then? Just download mode and flash with the program?
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to sbf? no... no need to root... as an sbf is done from a computer... it completely reprograms the phone.. and put's it at an out of the box state...

Nemo Aeternamn said:
to sbf? no... no need to root... as an sbf is done from a computer... it completely reprograms the phone.. and put's it at an out of the box state...
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Ok its just like Odin for the sgs line then.
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Exactly, yeah.

I don't find a 602 sbf in the sticky. And why does it tell you " if your on this version use this sbf" there are like 3 options and none are 602
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neh4pres said:
I don't find a 602 sbf in the sticky. And why does it tell you " if your on this version use this sbf" there are like 3 options and none are 602
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Sorry, the stickies are so outdated. You will have to try a few Google searches to find the correct SBF file.
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/331-guide-flashing-droid-x-sbf/
Sorry mate, forgot about our lack of stickies update here.
And no worries about which sbf go where and what-not.
The only time you had to worry about which SBF was before froyo.
The froyo version updated our locked bootloader...so the only limitation we have is we can't go back to donut (2.1).

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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/331-guide-flashing-droid-x-sbf/
Sorry mate, forgot about our lack of stickies update here.
And no worries about which sbf go where and what-not.
The only time you had to worry about which SBF was before froyo.
The froyo version updated our locked bootloader...so the only limitation we have is we can't go back to donut (2.1).
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Ok. The wording was confusing and i don't want to brick a friends phone. i called him and he is on 2.3 so all should be good
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Make sure that your friends battery is fully charged and do not interrupt the SBF process at all this is very important and I felt someone should explicitly state this. If something goes wrong during SBF it is very possible that the phone can be bricked. Let us know how it goes because RSD lite can be very finicky depending on what OS you have on your computer and what not.

holysnikey said:
Make sure that your friends battery is fully charged and do not interrupt the SBF process at all this is very important and I felt someone should explicitly state this. If something goes wrong during SBF it is very possible that the phone can be bricked. Let us know how it goes because RSD lite can be very finicky depending on what OS you have on your computer and what not.
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Thanks for the wise words
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