News just got out today it was released for the Lumia 710,800, and 900(?) .
I remember Nokia announcing they added extra features to their updates (and this is through Navifirm which I guess is Nokia's exclusive update tool).
Anyway my point is, is it possible to extract a CAB out of the Nokia updates somehow and flash it to our devices, or is this not a generic CAB and instead manufacturer heavily tweaked so my question is retarded?
Lol
Thanks!
fubag said:
News just got out today it was released for the Lumia 710,800, and 900(?) .
I remember Nokia announcing they added extra features to their updates (and this is through Navifirm which I guess is Nokia's exclusive update tool).
Anyway my point is, is it possible to extract a CAB out of the Nokia updates somehow and flash it to our devices, or is this not a generic CAB and instead manufacturer heavily tweaked so my question is retarded?
Lol
Thanks!
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Aside from firmware updates, the previous cabs when using cab sender do seem to be generic for WP devices (I did a DIY post on updating to tango before and those cabs were from another listing for all WP phones). We would need to find out the addresses for the 7.8 cabs but is there something different with the 7.8 update process? I thought I read somewhere it's a bit different..
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Aside from firmware updates, the previous cabs when using cab sender do seem to be generic for WP devices (I did a DIY post on updating to tango before and those cabs were from another listing for all WP phones). We would need to find out the addresses for the 7.8 cabs but is there something different with the 7.8 update process? I thought I read somewhere it's a bit different..
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ya, i think we would have to wait until the non-Nokia devices receive the 7.8 upgrade since the Nokia cabs are bundled with nokia updates as well...so this is disappointing...
also from what I heard, our devices will never receive the update officially through the Zune program update process or receive notifications for an update...i.e. we will have to force the generic cab update like some of us did for Tango
this device has officially reached its end I guess...time to move on?
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ya, i think we would have to wait until the non-Nokia devices receive the 7.8 upgrade since the Nokia cabs are bundled with nokia updates as well...so this is disappointing...
also from what I heard, our devices will never receive the update officially through the Zune program update process or receive notifications for an update...i.e. we will have to force the generic cab update like some of us did for Tango
this device has officially reached its end I guess...time to move on?
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I think if you've got a Dell factory unlocked DVP, you might have a chance for Zune 7.8 update as those phones have always gotten WP update notifications and updates through Zune, all the way up to Tango. But if you've got a TMO or ATT DVP (doesn't matter if you unlock), yeah, cab sender is the only way starting from 7740 (up to 7.8 now probably). We can blame TMO and ATT for that. :crying:
If someone ever captured the 00EU/00US bundles, we could likely turn all 31(att)/33(tmo) vps into unbranded ones.
But there's only ever 1 guy for every million or 2 updaters that bothers to capture urls, and we likely dont have enough people to bother capturing the urls
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If someone ever captured the 00EU/00US bundles, we could likely turn all 31(att)/33(tmo) vps into unbranded ones.
But there's only ever 1 guy for every million or 2 updaters that bothers to capture urls, and we likely dont have enough people to bother capturing the urls
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I have an unbranded DVP, if you tell me how to capture URL, I will as soon as I get an update. Im on 8773.98 now, officially update through zune.
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If someone ever captured the 00EU/00US bundles, we could likely turn all 31(att)/33(tmo) vps into unbranded ones.
But there's only ever 1 guy for every million or 2 updaters that bothers to capture urls, and we likely dont have enough people to bother capturing the urls
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+1 for capturing URLs. If I get an unbranded DVP in hand again, I'll do.
As for converting to unbranded DVPs, doesn't zune update check IMEI for updates though? That's how they're limiting the lumia 7.8 updates right now to preproduction/dev devices?
ya, i actually kept my replacement device and never sent my unbranded one back! LOL so I could capture URL's on my other one when it gets out too...sucks because my replacement is the TMO-unlocked one. =(
fubag said:
News just got out today it was released for the Lumia 710,800, and 900(?) .
I remember Nokia announcing they added extra features to their updates (and this is through Navifirm which I guess is Nokia's exclusive update tool).
Anyway my point is, is it possible to extract a CAB out of the Nokia updates somehow and flash it to our devices, or is this not a generic CAB and instead manufacturer heavily tweaked so my question is retarded?
Lol
Thanks!
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what i found:
Posted by DELL-NIKHIL M
replied on29 Nov 2012 7:02 AM
Hi trobin7,
Microsoft has officially not provided the release date. It is rumored to be early 2013.
Once Microsoft launches the release date Dell will let everyone know if Windows 7.8 update will be available for venue pro.
Please get back to us for further information.
Thanks and Regards,
Nikhil M
#iworkfordell
but it would be great to have such a "early solution" like for 7.5
some devs working on a custom 7.8 right now but it is still in an very early development stage - they still trying to find an unbrick and update solution with and without j-tag devices
To anyone willing to capture urls: you require a device that is already on the unbranded configuration (ie a 00US/00EU device, which is unbranded), and the device has to have a firmware bundle update available. (ie the device specific drivers)
The easiest way is to restore to a pre-mango update and reupdate and grab the urls. Otherwise we will simply have to hope that dell releases an update for WP7.8.
We dont know if 7.8 requires a new bundle to work, or if the mango ones will simply work (tango didnt require any new firmware bundles, you can install tango on a device that already had mango without dell releasing anything)
Just as much, i need someone very brave to attempt to flash either the at&t one on a tmo device, or the reverse.
I only assume it will work, I definitely cannot say with certianty that it will even work, or even that it wont brick the device
I would recommend someone that already has used the tmo ffu before to attempt to flash the att firmware bundle on top of a tmo device and see what happens.
You should hypothetically be able to unbrick/restore to tmo afterwards.
If it does, we can simply move devices into being unbranded as if any VP were to get 7.8, it would be the unbranded ones first.
Well as far as my knowledge goes all mobiles currently having Windows 7.X will be upgraded to the latest 7.8 as and when it is launched to general public. Possibly this will be the final update in the 7.X series though there are talks that they might bring 7.9 to Nokia phones as discussed in some Nokia blog earlier (as far as my memory can recall - I may be completely wrong too).
The 7.8 update will be delivered to all mobile phones and will bypass operators so it will be directly delivered once authorized. Hence, its my understanding that currently there is no need to try any hacks and patiently wait because as per my information and understanding based on statements by Microsoft - everyone will be getting the 7.8 update and operators will not be able to block the updates as it will be directly delivered by Microsoft to the handset
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Well as far as my knowledge goes all mobiles currently having Windows 7.X will be upgraded to the latest 7.8 as and when it is launched to general public. Possibly this will be the final update in the 7.X series though there are talks that they might bring 7.9 to Nokia phones as discussed in some Nokia blog earlier (as far as my memory can recall - I may be completely wrong too).
The 7.8 update will be delivered to all mobile phones and will bypass operators so it will be directly delivered once authorized. Hence, its my understanding that currently there is no need to try any hacks and patiently wait because as per my information and understanding based on statements by Microsoft - everyone will be getting the 7.8 update and operators will not be able to block the updates as it will be directly delivered by Microsoft to the handset
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I kinda disagree. Microsoft can't really bypass operators when delivering updates, and I feel the operators will still be controlling when/how their devices will receive the updates. In short, we will have to flash the CABs ourself if we really want it right away once 7.8 is released to the general public. Then again, unbranded and completely unlocked DVPs will receive it no doubt, but those of us with Tmobile or At&t unlocked phones I believe won't.
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I kinda disagree. Microsoft can't really bypass operators when delivering updates, and I feel the operators will still be controlling when/how their devices will receive the updates. In short, we will have to flash the CABs ourself if we really want it right away once 7.8 is released to the general public. Then again, unbranded and completely unlocked DVPs will receive it no doubt, but those of us with Tmobile or At&t unlocked phones I believe won't.
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Right on. And if TMO/ATT magically does release the 7.8 update, it'll have a hack of a time having to release all the updates before 7.8, like 7740, 8107, 8112, 8773 Tango.... it's just easier for them to ignore an ancient device like the DVP. :crying:
Still stick to my version
fubag said:
I kinda disagree. Microsoft can't really bypass operators when delivering updates, and I feel the operators will still be controlling when/how their devices will receive the updates. In short, we will have to flash the CABs ourself if we really want it right away once 7.8 is released to the general public. Then again, unbranded and completely unlocked DVPs will receive it no doubt, but those of us with Tmobile or At&t unlocked phones I believe won't.
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aleunge said:
Right on. And if TMO/ATT magically does release the 7.8 update, it'll have a hack of a time having to release all the updates before 7.8, like 7740, 8107, 8112, 8773 Tango.... it's just easier for them to ignore an ancient device like the DVP. :crying:
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I may be wrong but as far as Microsoft blog / forum posts go all users running Windows 7.X will get updated to Windows 7.8 bypassing all mobile operators. Mobile operators will have no say in this release of Microsoft and this has been discussed on various microsoft forum posts time and again that everyone will be getting the 7.8 update once its released bypassing all mobile operators and will be delivered directly by Microsoft to the mobile holder rather than via the operator. Anyone can do a quick search on bing / google Windows 7.8 Update bypass carrier
xpmymob said:
I may be wrong but as far as Microsoft blog / forum posts go all users running Windows 7.X will get updated to Windows 7.8 bypassing all mobile operators. Mobile operators will have no say in this release of Microsoft and this has been discussed on various microsoft forum posts time and again that everyone will be getting the 7.8 update once its released bypassing all mobile operators and will be delivered directly by Microsoft to the mobile holder rather than via the operator. Anyone can do a quick search on bing / google Windows 7.8 Update bypass carrier
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Trust me, yo. I really want to believe 7.8 will bypass the carriers, but there's just too much conflicting info out there in bing land and google town. I guess we'll find out soon enough (or not soon enough)! Let's hope that even if some DVPs don't get the update, peeps here will make it happen! :highfive:
ye I agree with aleunge
if I can't get the 7.8 update, I think its time to retire the DVP and move on for good ='(
I have an unbranded EU dvp. Got it from expansys when they were shifting their stock.
I disagree with the abandoning..
I just updated my 4th DVP to 8773.
My old DVP was tired and beat up.. so for $120 on ebay I got me a brand new one..
Until a QWERTY Portrait comes out for any other phone.. the DVP does about everything I need a phone to do and more.
well it's official:
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Dell phones 99% won't be getting 7.8
Small chance the official CAB files will be useful...
The MS 'statement' seems to imply that new firmware isn't needed for the 7.8 update. In this case, I'd be surprised if Dell blocks the 7.8 update (as it improves customer satisfaction with little or no cost to Dell).
Either way, we'll probably know the answer before too long
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After Crossbow was spotted running on an M3100 earlier this month, I fired off an email to T-Mobile asking them whether it would ever be available for the punters... Got a reply today:
The helpful Jann at T-Mobile said:
Good Morning Mr Woods
Thank you for your enquiry regarding handset updates.
So far the new AKU versions have all came out with new devices and the upgrade has never been supported from eg 2003 to 2005. if this will be available for the Crossbow then I don?t know.
From a t-mobile marketing point of view I would say it probably won't be available.
Kind Regards
Jann
T-Mobile
On 13/12/06 00:01, I wrote:
[From .CO.UK]
message:Now that Crossbow has been sighted in the wild on an Orange-branded flavour of the lovely Hermes, does T-Mobile have any kind of an ETA (be that from Microsoft themselves, TM head office or otherwise) for rolling it out to its Vario 2 customers?
I've read that Crossbow most likely won't be AKU3 of WM5, instead being an entirely new update which will be released before Microsoft release their Photon OS, and I've also seen it described as Windows Mobile 6 - but yeah, now that there's shots of an M3100 running it, it can't be that far from retail release, so I was just wondering if you had/have any plans in the works for letting us customers get it for their devices!
Cheers in advance
Christopher
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... Oh well. :/
that sucks :-(
He also is saying that there wont be a AKU3.x at all for the Hermes, and I think that's a load of BS. What he's saying is, if we want the latest AKU's, we have to buy new devices, FU buddy (the t-mobile guy that is)!
I'd say we need to concentrate on getting Buzz to update his stealth rom dumper.
If anyone has their hands on a Crossbow Hermes, get in touch with us. Buzz is temporarily detained, but source code of grabbit is available if required. What's needed?
Use Mamaich's rom dumper, the wiki solution or Pof's solution if you can. If not, contact a mod.
I suggest that it's unlikely an official Crossbow upgrade will come for Hermes. BUT the Samsung CPU has been popular and I imagine HTC will base a number of upcoming devices on the architecture. If so, a possible leaked rom may be hackable.
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I'd say we need to concentrate on getting Buzz to update his stealth rom dumper.
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A dump from WinCE is not as good as a dump from bootloader.
Someone should write a windows tool that communicates to bootloader over USB and does all the 'rbmc' commands needed to dump xbow.
Sleuth255: I see you've developed several apps... are you able to write such a tool if i give you the right bootloader commands? USB is seen as a serial device.
Keeping this thread alive and on top, maybe seen before, lots of Crossbow screenshots on this site:
http://www.pgcw.com.cn/newsdetail.asp?id=1366#here
How can we make it stealthy though? I may get my hands on a CrossBow equipped Hermes during MEDC 2K7 in May, but if I do, it'll most likely be in the exhibit area for only 5-10 minutes. This is why something like buzz's solution is so compelling.
I can certainly work on an app that will pull the ROM image when a device in bootloader mode is connected up to a PC. Having this certainly increases our chances if someone does manage to get one for a few hours.
I'll see what I can code up, but IMO we should also pursue buzz's stealth solution. Go ahead and point me towards the commands pof.. I can start with the instructions you left for tsuishui.
christopherwoods said:
After Crossbow was spotted running on an M3100 earlier this month, I fired off an email to T-Mobile asking them whether it would ever be available for the punters... Got a reply today:
... Oh well. :/
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Reading the message with open mind and not only with the eyes I read:
1) The man answering doesn't even knows the difference between OS and AKU. He speaks about 2003 and 2005 as AKU difference: ISN'T AKU, is a new OS release!
2) The same fellow doesn't even know the NAME of OSes! 2003 was right but we have Windows Mobile 5 an NOT 2005!
3) He is a man from the customer service, or, worst, probabily the answer comes from Tmobile marketing man, with little or no knowledge about the future of windows mobile devices, he knows about the past but seem really short sighted abut the future
4) The answer is the only answer he could give: if he will say "may be.." or "we will see" everyone will start asking WHEN, boring him from is well paid chair, so is better to say "no", beacuse "no" was the answer given since yesterday and worked! They don't sell devices, the sell radio time and traffic
5) In the Operators market strong agreements exists between MS and operators and marketing doesn't drive, they follow!
Overclock the brain reading messages and spokesmen transcripts from companies, not only eyes and be carefull when asking something simple but revolutionary to a large and with good revenues company: 90% of answers will be NO
Vonn over at Android Community Forums just posted that they got an email from HTC Customer Care saying that there will be an update in the very near future.
Full post from Vonn:
Lots of people will probably be interested in this. It was mailed to me today from HTC Customer Care and comes from HTC Head Office.
"HTC is actively working on a software update that will make your experience on your Hero device better. A partial software update is ready in 10 days and a major release will be available in mid September containing local language support.. Please check our website from time to time and update your device when the software is available"
Customer Care don't know exactly what will be contained in the update though so keep an eye on the site.
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Cool.
Lets hope the telco's have betas and are testing to allow for us branded Hero users to take advantage of this.
Normally branded phones have their own software, at least my htc diamond did. The website didn't accept my serial code, instead I had to go to the vodafone site to download the official vodafone rom.
Flashing it to a manufacturer rom (for example normal htc-rom) would screw up my warranty through vodafone (but I heard you would get warranty through htc)
So don't just flash, read before you do that
Stafflover said:
Normally branded phones have their own software, at least my htc diamond did. The website didn't accept my serial code, instead I had to go to the vodafone site to download the official vodafone rom.
Flashing it to a manufacturer rom (for example normal htc-rom) would screw up my warranty through vodafone (but I heard you would get warranty through htc)
So don't just flash, read before you do that
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That's good advice. Be warned, people!
Assuming you still had access, you could just flash it back, no?
Excellent news
Makes a change for HTC normally they wait for the guys on this forum to release updates for them. They must be keen to make sure they get the android market share.
Brilliant!
Excellent!!!
Great!
Can someone enlighten me as to how these updates (especially the "major" update in September) work? Do we completely reflash the entire rom? Will this erase our settings, personal data such as smses and downloaded apps? And will it bring the phone back to being unrooted?
Thanks
It will almost certainly wipe your phone but thanks to the fact that so much is stored on Google's servers and the SD card, I didn't find wiping my Hero was actually too bad. Certainly I was up and running again with far less hassle than my Touch Pro...
It will be interesting to see what improvements HTC can put together and what user issues they resolve with it.
Well, I certainly hope this is the case but the guy I spoke with today at HTC customer service in Sweden gave me quite the opposite impression. He told me no major fw-updates were planned, only minor fixes but no dates were set.
Hopefully, he's not up to speed
he's not, my email from HTC came this evening saying 10 days first, September second, i asked because i hope firmware update will take care of the led issue
Good just in time for the US release. Can't wait to hear what they manage to do.
Aridon said:
Good just in time for the US release. Can't wait to hear what they manage to do.
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So that's why they are doing a firmware update for the US market. Couldn't understand why they were so keen yo get an update out.
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he's not, my email from HTC came this evening saying 10 days first, September second, i asked because i hope firmware update will take care of the led issue
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re the leds that will be interesting as my hero has been sent back to HTC for this very reason. When i spoke to customer support they said there was no record of the led issue being reported
Not having LED issues here so I hope the update addresses the UI lag with some performance enhancements.
To be honest, I'm hopeful but not optimistic. Heard all the 'new release in ten days' bollocks from HTC when I had the absolute disaster that was my Kaiser, and never got anything from them then. I hope they've changed...
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It will almost certainly wipe your phone but thanks to the fact that so much is stored on Google's servers and the SD card, I didn't find wiping my Hero was actually too bad. Certainly I was up and running again with far less hassle than my Touch Pro...
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Not necessarily. If you're moving from one major build to another, e.g. T-Mobile US to T-Mobile UK ROM, or T-Mobile to Rogers ROM, then yes, you will probably need to wipe. My experience with the 'official' ROMs is that they never require a wipe and are designed to be so.
I sent an email to TMOB two days ago asking when we could expect a rom update and this is the reply i got today
Thanks for your email Timothy, asking me when will T-Mobile release the ROM update of HTC HD2.
Firstly, I'd like to apologise for the inconvenience caused. I understand how concerned you must be to update new software on your phone. I'll certainly advise you.
All software updates are released by the phone manufacturers. We'll not be able to confirm when the software will be released on our network.
You can find the latest software updates by clicking here and select HTC updates. Please remember, these website's are owned by the handset manufacturers and not T-Mobile. We've no input into the content or availability of these website's.
If your phone is damaged by updating the software, T-Mobile cannot be held responsible.
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I have a hd2/hd7 & decided to get a Samsung focus. I just read of pocketnow.com that Microsoft is saying all the people that did nodo un official will be stuck not able to update passed nodo. My question is can I unlock my focus & wait for the official at&t update without worrying about messing my phone up for updates?
it worked fine for me.
@Freddy2Fred what do you mean? My concern is if I unlock my focus when I get it & also install the re-unlock so when I update to nodo will it effect my future updates?
This is what the article says on pocketnow......
"Monday the ChevronWP7.Updater brought the ability to update Windows Phones to the latest build for all those who lost their patience in waiting for the update notification.
A lot has happened since then: the blog post of Chris Walsh no longer has a valid link to the ChevronWP7.Updater -- as in it was pulled! You might have a déjà-vu as the ChevronWP7 unlocker used to jailbreak smartphones was also pulled as the team was in talks with Redmond.
Apparently, Microsoft warns users related to the usage of the ChevronWP7.Updater as it allegedly will put an end to the smartphone's ability in receiving future updates. According to Redmond, re-flashing the device with an original stock ROM would be the only solution to revert from the situation created.
Since Windows Phone 7 stock ROMs aren't available officially the way we got used to them being on manufacturer's websites back in the days of Windows Mobile, you can either stick with NoDO forever or send it back to the factory? What do you think about such an alleged stance?"
Relax... The report doesn't say for sure. It states Microsoft hasn't tested the Chevron Updater and warns its a possibility. HTC phones that used the Chevron Updater reported receiving additional updates almost immediately through Zune for HTC firmware. Regardless, I'm sure the coders like Chevron team and XDA members will provide updates for our current hardware long after Microsoft and the Carriers stopped in order for us to buy new hardware...
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I have a hd2/hd7 & decided to get a Samsung focus. I just read of pocketnow.com that Microsoft is saying all the people that did nodo un official will be stuck not able to update passed nodo. My question is can I unlock my focus & wait for the official at&t update without worrying about messing my phone up for updates?
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There's an AT&T update? I haven't seen one thing from them and at this point I'd be surprised if I ever do so I wouldn't be too worried.
Relax
If you read the article you will see that "might" is used three times in the second paragraph of the quote and "possible" used in the third paragraph. As it was being published, many users who had updated through the updater were receiving Zune update notices and re-updating with no problems.
Thanks for the answers everyone. The only thing I want to do is unlock it, apply the un-relock so I can sideload when needed & have my custom ringtone/sms. I will still wait for the official update still because of this article so I don't have to update then re-update in a months time.
"Now that the ChevronWP7 Updater tool is out, letting you force NoDo onto the Windows Phone 7 handset of your choice, there's nothing else we're still waiting around for, right? Well, not quite. While this shortcut may get you copy-and-paste, there are still non-NoDo related updates coming down the pipeline. Chris Walsh, ChevronWP7 team member and creator of that update tool, has tweeted word that there's a Samsung Focus-specific update in the works, including some bug fixes.
Walsh implies that they'll be several bugs targeted, but the only one he singles out deals with Bluetooth support. We've seen reports of users running into garbled sound and volume swings with devices connected to the Focus, so this may be the fix Walsh mentions."
With this update supposed to land "really really soon", it's likely that AT&T could push it out at the same time it gets around to releasing NoDo for its users who have decided to wait for an official channel, almost certainly later this month. If you have a Focus and have been considering the universal update hack, you may want to hold off, as you're just going to have to revert it in order to install this bugfix update.
You know what this shows? It shows that if AT&T weren't sitting on their hands keeping silent then people wouldn't get so antsy to get the update. If they came out and said "we're testing it and you'll receive it within <blah-blah> amount of time," which wasn't the case, then people wouldn't have had to resort to finding ways of getting the update. As it stands, there may never be a day this year or any year that we'll see an update from AT&T.
There may be bug fixes being made by MS, but will AT&T release it? Not over their dead, greedy hands. They'd rather you buy a new phone than run the risk of having their support people actually do their jobs.
I really hope this stuff gets organized soon to where we get straight updates from Microsoft for each phone itself. Do yall think the focus will be the only one that will have expandable memory? That seems to been a worse idea lol I'm going to keep my focus with the memory it comes with. I really want to stick with wp7 but I hope its not a slap in the face lol
Revert????
djc said:
Thanks for the answers everyone. The only thing I want to do is unlock it, apply the un-relock so I can sideload when needed & have my custom ringtone/sms. I will still wait for the official update still because of this article so I don't have to update then re-update in a months time.
"Now that the ChevronWP7 Updater tool is out, letting you force NoDo onto the Windows Phone 7 handset of your choice, there's nothing else we're still waiting around for, right? Well, not quite. While this shortcut may get you copy-and-paste, there are still non-NoDo related updates coming down the pipeline. Chris Walsh, ChevronWP7 team member and creator of that update tool, has tweeted word that there's a Samsung Focus-specific update in the works, including some bug fixes.
Walsh implies that they'll be several bugs targeted, but the only one he singles out deals with Bluetooth support. We've seen reports of users running into garbled sound and volume swings with devices connected to the Focus, so this may be the fix Walsh mentions."
With this update supposed to land "really really soon", it's likely that AT&T could push it out at the same time it gets around to releasing NoDo for its users who have decided to wait for an official channel, almost certainly later this month. If you have a Focus and have been considering the universal update hack, you may want to hold off, as you're just going to have to revert it in order to install this bugfix update.
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There is no evidence anywhere that you will have to revert anything. Reading other threads and blogs, users in other countries are getting their full updates, including firmware fixes, after using the Chevron Updater to install the update. The new update installs just fine over the hacked update. Others are reporting getting just a firmware update. We really need to see how this plays out but no one knows what will happen and people who are receiving updates after using the hack are reporting positive results. It's amazing that they get the official update and can install it even though their phone is reporting 7390.
Now that HTC Surround is a discountinued model, what chance do you think that we'll ever see updates from WP7 7.10.7720? Given that HTC and the orriginal carrier (in my case, Telus) control the relase of updates, why would they bother testing anyhting new on the Surround?
Are we stuck on 7720 for ever?
Don't think so. Regardless of the device status, Microsoft is still interested in providing a positive user experience and will do what's necessary to make sure relevant updates get pushed through. OEM firmware updates are also a possibility. Things like the dissapearing keyboard will get fixed.
While this is all speculation, all devices should continue to receive support/updates for at least 21-24 months from date of release, or the length of a typical (2 year) contract. At some point the hardware will not have the capability to support new features, but that's to be expected.
Let's hope you're right
the latest is 8779 but still couldnt find any free download on it so i just found 8773 which is the 2nd latest probably.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685058
At&t Update coming.....
On their site said that an update for Windows Phone 7 and 7.5 phones it's coming, and the Surround is listed so here's hope I think
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB117823#fbid=K3TISJ0o9c9