Official 4.2 Update on ZTE N880E. What gives..? - Nexus S General

As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Either Google is being a ****** or Android 4.2 will run like **** on that device.

Nexus HAL said:
As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Because Nexus S is a old device for two years that still is supported from 2.3 to 4.1.2 version.
It is unique!
p/s: I think 512MB RAM is so little for 4.1.2 version.

Agree (I red an article about 2 generations support of latest phones by the google, or equivalent 1,5 to 2 years support).
I didn't expect JB 4.1 update as official (I have been surprised)... so if you would like to 4,2, you have to root and flash

Google updates it's devices.
Zte updates they're own devices.
Has you can imagine, Google does not update other manufacturer's devices...
Summing up: You should have bought a ZTE

muldy said:
Google updates it's devices.
Zte updates they're own devices.
Has you can imagine, Google does not update other manufacturer's devices...
Summing up: You should have bought a ZTE
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Thanks for the heads up :laugh: Your signature says you use two nexus devices unrooted n with locked bootloader. hmm.. got it!
Anyways guys.. I wasn't dying to get the OTA from google as some of you have made it look like. I was just thinking if there was an official AOSP code available, our hardworking developers would've had to go through a 'little less' pain in bringing us some freshly baked 4.2 custom ROMs.
That's it.

Nexus HAL said:
As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Only thing that runs heavily in 4.2 is the new lockscreen with widgets. I wonder if ZTE left those in their 4.2 implementation and how it behaves.

All zte devices are lagging like hell, even the high end ones. So, screw zte, they will put even KLP on low end devices just to have it, they dont care about fluidness etc.
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I don't see the big deal with ota when we have great devs that bring us the latest anyways... I've been running a near flawless 4.2 on my NS4G for a few days now... Considering ota dropped less than 2 weeks ago for supported devices, I'm surprised such a stable build is out already...
I've discovered that if I don't use crappy Facebook app and I leave "sync" off when I want to actually use my phone, this phone flies on 4.2... To be fair, I had to do this on 4.1 as well... Not sure if I did this on 4.0 or not... But I'm sure most people would find 4.2 slow on these phones unless they tweak them like I have to get it this fluid...
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I don't see the big deal with ota when we have great devs that bring us the latest anyways... I've been running a near flawless 4.2 on my NS4G for a few days now... Considering ota dropped less than 2 weeks ago for supported devices, I'm surprised such a stable build is out already...
I've discovered that if I don't use crappy Facebook app and I leave "sync" off when I want to actually use my phone, this phone flies on 4.2... To be fair, I had to do this on 4.1 as well... Not sure if I did this on 4.0 or not... But I'm sure most people would find 4.2 slow on these phones unless they tweak them like I have to get it this fluid...
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I am too using 4.2 with marmite, and its all so smooth. Only 2 finger notification bar pull lags because of tiles. 1 finger pull is smooth. And 4.2 is better in any aspect than 4.1.2. I cant wait for roms start popin out.(if some devs stay here )
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I am too using 4.2 with marmite, and its all so smooth. Only 2 finger notification bar pull lags because of tiles. 1 finger pull is smooth. And 4.2 is better in any aspect than 4.1.2. I cant wait for roms start popin out.(if some devs stay here )
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its better performance wise? what about battery? cuz I dont care one bit for the new features.

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its better performance wise? what about battery? cuz I dont care one bit for the new features.
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Performance is great, im shocked how well it is working. Battery is the same for me like on 4.1.2. 1 day 3hours on battery, 3hours 30minutes screen on time, 1 and a half hours music, YouTube, a lot of browsing, XDA etc. Im pleased about battery too.
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Performance is great, im shocked how well it is working. Battery is the same for me like on 4.1.2. 1 day 3hours on battery, 3hours 30minutes screen on time, 1 and a half hours music, YouTube, a lot of browsing, XDA etc. Im pleased about battery too.
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sounds great!! :good:

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Now That You Have ICS Is Your Note Noticeably Faster?

I'm not intersted in Quadrant or Antutu scores. I'm just curious if after upgrading to stock Samsung ICS you actually notice speed improvements on your note.
Meaning, does switching between screens seem faster? Does moving around the phone feel slower? Things of that nature. Now that the hardware GPU is actually being used can you see/feel the difference?
Thanks
I can't recall whether the app drawer and screens scroll better but one thing is for certain, web browsing and scrolling through the market is hugely improved.
Messaging is also less laggy and more responsive, the S Memo has been improved a great deal.
It's a good update but I wouldn't be shocked to see another incremental update to polish it off.
For me it seems more laggy and drains battery faster. Few apps crashed as well. I'm sure sammy will release few more updates but I'm not too thrilled for this release. I have heard people bricking their phone & missing key feature apps for premium suite (MyStory and s-note) with this update too, feels like Samsung did half ass job on it.
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The areas that it is definitely faster for me are:
1. Coming out of the lock screen
2. Pulling down and pushing back up the notification bar.
3. In ADW EX, pinching to zoom in and out of the homescreens and homescreen previews is smooth now, It used to be pretty stuttered in LC2.
4. Music apps that require touch input to trigger sounds eg. Solo, TheDrum, Grand Piano. There is noticeably less latency between touching the screen and hearing the sounds.
ICS after 24 hours
I can confirm the following after testing this release under myriad conditions
ICS Stunner is a 100 times better!!
seriously, all this hype and it still looks the same
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I'm not intersted in Quadrant or Antutu scores. I'm just curious if after upgrading to stock Samsung ICS you actually notice speed improvements on your note.
Meaning, does switching between screens seem faster? Does moving around the phone feel slower? Things of that nature. Now that the hardware GPU is actually being used can you see/feel the difference?
Thanks
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Hi There,
First off all, the N-7000 didn't move officially to Ics yet, since we're all still waiting for the first Samsung stock leak.
Now what you see, are some AOSP, AOKP and CM roms based on Ics 4.0.4. They are more than ready for daily use, stable, but surely missing some Nice features like SPen....
On this forum, there is one leak from Samsung, witch is making Success, a chineese Ics leak, that is originally for the GT-9220, A Galaxy note released in the china, but not with the same processor, thus making the leak not compatible with the N-7000.
Super Devs like Chainfire, maxicett, Alba and others, took this and made it usefull for us!
Some says that it's risky, but believe me, I'm on the maxicet's one " TheMidTeam", and for me is the Best so far!
All the Samsung features are present, The rom is smooth, super fast, stable, and the Best is yet to come, once we'll have our own N-7000 Ics Samsung leak : let's say this Q of the year.
Once said, my freind : make your backup and choose one of the aboves Ics.
Just follow every step the Dev says, and you are set!
Good luck.
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Hi There,
First off all, the N-7000 didn't move officially to Ics yet, since we're all still waiting for the first Samsung stock leak.
Now what you see, are some AOSP, AOKP and CM roms based on Ics 4.0.4. They are more than ready for daily use, stable, but surely missing some Nice features like SPen....
On this forum, there is one leak from Samsung, witch is making Success, a chineese Ics leak, that is originally for the GT-9220, A Galaxy note released in the china, but not with the same processor, thus making the leak not compatible with the N-7000.
Super Devs like Chainfire, maxicett, Alba and others, took this and made it usefull for us!
Some says that it's risky, but believe me, I'm on the maxicet's one " TheMidTeam", and for me is the Best so far!
All the Samsung features are present, The rom is smooth, super fast, stable, and the Best is yet to come, once we'll have our own N-7000 Ics Samsung leak : let's say this Q of the year.
Once said, my freind : make your backup and choose one of the aboves Ics.
Just follow every step the Dev says, and you are set!
Good luck.
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I think you will find that ics is out for the note... have a look at the rest of the forums. Released ota in Germany.
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notegalaxy said:
I think you will find that ics is out for the note... have a look at the rest of the forums. Released ota in Germany.
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Really!?
One week out of the forum, and I become so outdated!
Well I Will check it out,
Any way, as I said, Things Will get much better.
Thank you so much my freind.
All the ICS ROMs I've tried were snappier than GB in general.
Installed it yesterday. Cannot really say it is noticably faster at this point. I have noticed the browser is faster and has many more settings. I have not had any issues and think it is a nice upgrade. It is certainly not slower.
For me its made a massive difference, everything loads instantly now, totally impressed how much so, never thought it would make that much difference.
My note started slower than with GB. Some FC, unable to use the camera, for example, as it frozes. But after some use, things are getting better.
I feel like apps data needs to be updated somehow, so with the use of every application it's getting better.
Anyway, I'm a bit "disappointed". I felt a higher improvement when installed ICS on my Desire HD, so I thing I expected in some way that Note will have a great improvement too. And yes it's better (now, with the use), but not so much as expected.
Maybe is just because with GB my note was already nearly perfect
How'd you get it, being in Plano, TX?
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My note started slower than with GB. Some FC, unable to use the camera, for example, as it frozes. But after some use, things are getting better.
I feel like apps data needs to be updated somehow, so with the use of every application it's getting better.
Anyway, I'm a bit "disappointed". I felt a higher improvement when installed ICS on my Desire HD, so I thing I expected in some way that Note will have a great improvement too. And yes it's better (now, with the use), but not so much as expected.
Maybe is just because with GB my note was already nearly perfect
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Initial releases are usually buggy and it seems that it's the case here.
What I can put it down to is whether or not ICS was installed after a full wipe as it appears that those who did it this way don't have the problems you mention above.
I also got it from kies as I was on stock LC1 (DBT) and have these annoying problems so if it continues I will either wait for an update from sammy (anyones guess when this might happen) or wipe then flash the new ICS.
when i first installed it was fast, now that i did a hard reset its insanely fast!!! i am very pleased with the update
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How'd you get it, being in Plano, TX?
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Off xda the same we all of us are getting it in the u.s.
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imold said:
How'd you get it, being in Plano, TX?
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I updated kies on my computer and plugged in my GNote. I have an DBT unlocked version I bought on Amazon in December. It updated just fine.
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nightfox11 said:
when i first installed it was fast, now that i did a hard reset its insanely fast!!! i am very pleased with the update
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+1
georgios73 said:
Initial releases are usually buggy and it seems that it's the case here.
What I can put it down to is whether or not ICS was installed after a full wipe as it appears that those who did it this way don't have the problems you mention above.
I also got it from kies as I was on stock LC1 (DBT) and have these annoying problems so if it continues I will either wait for an update from sammy (anyones guess when this might happen) or wipe then flash the new ICS.
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Yeah it's probably best to start with a clean slate. When you've got all kinds of data from GB floating around while using ics stuff can get borked and whatnot.
Swyped from my Galaxy Note using Tapatalk
ICS in general is ok but I'm having issues with bluetooth. It regularly loses connection with my Nissan Connect car system. Also before on GB when streaming music over bluetooth the car unit would show the name of the track playing, on ICS it doesn't.
The exact same thing happened when I updated my Galaxy S2 to ICS. I want to try another brand phone, maybe HTC, thats running ICS to see if it is a problem with ICS or my Nissan Connect system.
As I wasn't having any serious issues on GB I reverting back until the bluetooth problem is sorted.

Should I upgrade to ICS?

Was just wondering.....
Kind of late to be upgrading
But I don't exactly own the phone.
Should I upgrade?
Will there be any issues with the apps / games?
Is there any new good functionality?
And I will be upgrading via Kies cause the phone isn't mine so will I be losing and Calendar Entries?
I know I won't lose contacts or apps....
Just worried about Calendar Entries.
ICS n GB really not much differences,ICS battery life shorter,unless you take the troblesom to do flash.
Better wait for Jelly Bean 4.1
no you should not . i m on ics but if i find enough energy and time i will go back to gb. ics on note is just gb with shorter battery life. paranoid is a good rom with very good hybrid features i liked it but because cm9 doesnt run an app that i have to run i had to quit using it . you can try it.
There are some superb ICS custom roms out there, but I try them out, even trying Stock ICS now, but at the end of the day GB is just so dam fast and battery life is amazing compared, all your miss is swipe to remove a single notification, a few extra Widgets and the odd setting...I suppose GB took a while to get to the good state its in now, perhaps when JellyBean arrives ICS will have evolved into a faster more battery friendly state...
My advise stay with GB
To be frank. I don't see a shorter battery life and I use my device constantly.
Ive usually drained the battery about 5 to 6 hours from a full charge.
I have Facebook, instagram, 4 gmail accounts (on push) and whatsapp.
yup ICS is faster in terms of response.... but also faster in draining battery
I would go back to gb if i could. I had no complaints on gingerbread ive found ics to have a less stable wifi connection and im not overly keen on the changes theyve made to task manager and the settings menu. I see little to no improvement overall and im sure my wifi is less stable i googled it and im not alone.
So keep it on gingerbread sell it in september and get the galaxy note2 running jellybean. Mine will be up for sale soon.
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Ts, I have the same thoughts as you 2 months back. Frankly, gb is Good enough but I am itchy hand type, So go ahead with Ics, root and other stuff....Hahaha...that's what thus forum is for right?
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I guess depending upon all your reviews I will wait for JellyBean....
Does anybody know when Jellybean is coming out?
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FinancialWar said:
Does anybody know when Jellybean is coming out?
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It's unknown, although unlikely that there will be an official release of 4.1. There will certainly be some 4.1 unofficial ROMs made available at some point though (I'm not sure the source is even officially out yet).
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There's really no compelling reason to upgrade to ICS, but I wouldn't go back to GB.
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I m sticking with gb as well, tried a few ics rom and they have all got different problrms.
I ll probably never going to upgrade to jelly bean since there is no flash support. Need flash til the other end of the world change....
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When my OTA notice (Samsung ICS touchwiz LPY) came in 1- 2 months back , I OTAed while watching TV. Easy as pie. ICS has been fine, better that GB in most ways but cleaner but minor upgrade, I like the new pen stuff, that I can use Photoshop and ICS apps and my battery life is fine. My only problem is the bug with my Samsung Car Dock, which freezes when I plug it in and have the phone horizontally but again my battery life is so good, I do not charge in the car. While I use the Samsung pen touchwiz stuff and am happy with the official toucheiz ICS, I would jump in a second to a pure ICS if Jelly bean was in since I love any kind of voice recognition stuff ( use vlingo and skyvi now) and the Google Voice/Google Now stuff has been rated as great and a game changer.
So while here at XDA it is all about odin, instructions and roms - which is fine - I can tell you that just straight OTA from Samsung touchwiz/ICS is easy and fine too ( at least for me and many others).
If you feel yourself wanting to get a smoother and faster experience at the cost of battery-life I would.
Just a note of caution though.
DO NOT FLASH STOCK ICS Chances are that at some period you will brick your note unless you flash another kernel (ie. franco kernel), because of the Samsung superbrick (or eMMc) bug.
If you are comfortable flashing custom ROMs I'd highly recommend using Paranoid Android. I am currently using it, and have had few to no issues with it. And with light/moderate usage, it still lasts me a day and a half or two between charges.
OK, updated to ICS via Kies a couple of days ago, and have tried it since. The battery life issue is a deal killer for me, and whatever extra features there are still does not make it better than Gingerbread overall. Can someone please point me to a thread or tutorial for rolling back to stock Gingerbread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
It has all stock ROMs and instructions in the second post.
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gingerbread is best suitable for my note will never update to any ics version as i recently got a emmc bug when updated to ics through ota and my motherboard is needed to be replaced.. now in my note with new motherboard i got preinstalled gb and will stick to it forever
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Ranafram said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
It has all stock ROMs and instructions in the second post.
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Thank you.
You should.
Chrome works on it

Will KitKat give new life to HD2?

KitKat just officially released. It is specially optimized for older devices with 512MB RAM, just like our HD2.
http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
That sounds like an extremely good news, maybe it's time for me to start using my HD2 again.
Considering one of the main pushes for kitkat is that it is built for devices with 512mb of ram, I think it could be very good for the HD2
I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
HD2 development is going slower and slower as the day goes by...
andyjyneo said:
I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
HD2 development is going slower and slower as the day goes by...
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Maybe because its over 4 and a half years old...
andyjyneo said:
I seriously hope HD2 development will be revived by KitKat.
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really hope so..
walter79 said:
2.6.35 build. you can try tytungs build too.
Next goal Android 4.4 - KitKat
repo sync runing since 30 min.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46983612&postcount=195
I too hope that somebody brings stable 4.4 onto the HTC HD2 as that will make it much more usable than current ported 4.3 version.
I am still using my HTC HD2 full time simply because no other device can do what it can do.
It really is an epic device and if we can bring 4.4 with only 512 MB RAM requirement then it will really fly.
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Maybe because its over 4 and a half years old...
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rubbish statement tbh the phone is still by far top spec compared to the cheap rubbish that cell operators offer on new deals
compared to a sg2 or htc one v its still good value
dam i hope some devs port it over as we can have both nand and sd builds now any ways
im sure its a lighter build anyway evin if its not there is s shed load of turd that can be trimmed to lighting the rom
hopefully its available soon.
The new KitKat seems to be the perfect OS (according to the info) and I hope it will be ported to the HD2 soon
I think some dude is working on it.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/google_debuts_art_in_kitkat_aims_to_change_android-news-7143.php
Not only is KitKat optimized for 512 MB RAM devices like the HD2, it also gets rid of the VM so the HD2 should fly with 4.4 !
Hope somebody is working on this as I can't wait to test it out.
It really won't be laggy, I hope, due to so many optimizations in 4.4 for slower / older phones.
yea i would really like too, to use the HD2 again. So I do really hope someone will make a stable 4.4 rom for it
The issue with the hd2 and all the other snapdragon s1 devices is that the adreno 200 is awful. It can't handle the gpu acceleration of ICS and newer at all. Compare the performance of a nexus one to a nexus s on an ICS or jellybean rom. The difference is gigantic.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/google_debuts_art_in_kitkat_aims_to_change_android-news-7143.php
Not only is KitKat optimized for 512 MB RAM devices like the HD2, it also gets rid of the VM so the HD2 should fly with 4.4 !
Hope somebody is working on this as I can't wait to test it out.
It really won't be laggy, I hope, due to so many optimizations in 4.4 for slower / older phones.
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I'm a bit disappointed about the KitKat. I managed to get it booting on my hTC Incredible S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519414, and it doesn't as fast as I thought. I have to say, it's a bit laggy. I hope, it'll get better if I put some optimalizations in, but the first experiences aren't so good.
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The issue with the hd2 and all the other snapdragon s1 devices is that the adreno 200 is awful. It can't handle the gpu acceleration of ICS and newer at all. Compare the performance of a nexus one to a nexus s on an ICS or jellybean rom. The difference is gigantic.
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Well, I don't use apps that need GPU acceleration so that is not a big problem. Or, turn off all animations on JB interface.
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I'm a bit disappointed about the KitKat. I managed to get it booting on my hTC Incredible S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519414, and it doesn't as fast as I thought. I have to say, it's a bit laggy. I hope, it'll get better if I put some optimalizations in, but the first experiences aren't so good.
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Well, it still has to be faster than JB, I bet ! It is now RAM optimized and gets rid of the virtual machine so that means that old devices like our HTC HD2 with slow CPU and little RAM will work even smoother now.
The overall GUI may still not be that smooth due to Adreno 200 but individual apps should theoretically run much smoother than before like browser or office or other low resource apps.
JB is nice but KitKat will be even better, if somebody makes a stable 4.4 CM11 rom for Leo !
Check this out, runs really good.
It will give a new life for you phone
kk works great on HD2
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kk works great on HD2
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A how-to for dummies tutorial would be great?

What's your thoughts on the Kitkat 4.4?

What's your favorite feature on Kitkat 4.4 that was mentioned today? What features were you looking forward to that wasn't mentioned?
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I think it's a step forward.
Better memory management is a huge deal for Android, one that it's been needing for some long time.
Since it is gor 512mb ram devices also it will work just fi9 n smooth on note 2
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It's got some pretty cool new features, from the automatic caller id lookup to built-in screen-recording. I'm also interested in the performance and memory enhancements, since our Note 2 will feel old and sluggish by the time Sammy gives us Kitkat
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What's your favorite feature on Kitkat 4.4 that was mentioned today? What features were you looking forward to that wasn't mentioned?
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My thoughts on Android Kitkat 4.4 is it is gonna be smoother than previous versions since beside it is a small upgrade, lower end devices will be supported by it too so it means faster on high end devices..
BUT!
My only thought on SAMSUNG Android Kitkat 4.4, it'll gonna be very long, I MEAN VERY LOOOOOONG time 'til we get this.. Or probably won't since maybe when Samsung releases 4.4 it will be old news and 5.0 will be around.. Hahaha!
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huh?? and u think Samsung will update N2 to 4.4 , i don't think so
or maybe they will update N2 to 4.4 when Android 4.5 or 5.0 is here :silly::silly:
I think it's a lovely update. Here are the list of changes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
I'm very excited for the performance and memory management enhancements as well as improved battery life.
Samsung ETA: 6+ months.
If only samsung would completely redesign touchwiz to somewhat resemble holo UI (like HTC did with sense 5)
I'll be enjoying kitkat on my 2012 N7 with its ****ty slow Tegra 3 processor.
First 4.3 than 4.4. Before we get 4.4 we have past one year. But I think 4.4 will be much smoother with better performance.
Does no one in this thread use AOSP ROMs lol?
I can't wait to test out the NFC card emulation.
thanks:good:
As someone has said, is a lovely update. Better performance, better graphics, more Google Experience and more. Sure, The Verge said that Nexus 5 is not the "perfect smooth Android", but i think that an Android without a single little lag is a chimera.
I'll try 4.4, maybe, with some custom roms, but i will definitely stick with the note instead of switching to n5. It's beautiful, but i'm sure that has not the battery life and speaker quality of the Note II. We will see.
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Sure, The Verge said that Nexus 5 is not the "perfect smooth Android"
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That hands on video was done by a biased apple fanboy. I mean really.... if you listen to what he says
He's getting hate all over the net.
The irony when Google say 4.4 designed to run on 512mb devices or more with better performance and better mem management....etc but the verge reported some lag here and there on Nexus 5 and peeps who flashed aosp 4.4 on N4 reported worse performance than 4.3
DAFUQ GOOGLE
Seems like Android + Dalvik will never ever be smooth and resource efficient as WP or IOS
darkchazz said:
That hands on video was done by a biased apple fanboy. I mean really.... if you listen to what he says
He's getting hate all over the net.
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I don't believe that's fanboyism. I owned an iPhone 4 and it was more smooth than any Android. Period. The only thing that i want to say is: seems that Android 4.4 isn't the "performance revolution" that we was expecting.
Anyway, it's still very enjoyable.
Elvecio said:
I don't believe that's fanboyism. I owned an iPhone 4 and it was more smooth than any Android. Period. The only thing that i want to say is: seems that Android 4.4 isn't the "performance revolution" that we was expecting.
Anyway, it's still very enjoyable.
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I believe it is fanboyism because he was bashing many aspects of the device and android in general, not only the performance. Although I'm not saying it should exceed iOS performance. But notice he was demonstrating lag using chrome. And we all know chrome has been laggy and unoptimized since the beginning. One shouldn't bash an entire OS's performance based on an unoptimized app. The stock samsung browser on my Note 2 runs as smooth as Safari on iOS.
Saying nonsense like "...Usually Android cameras aren't that impressive." There's no way I'm trusting a guy like that.
in addition to:
"...ceramic buttons, for whatever that's worth."
"Google calls it 'silky,' I call it 'pretty good."
I think it is this Google Taking Aim at Device Modders in Android 4.4 KitKat – xda-developers
[email protected] said:
I think it is this Google Taking Aim at Device Modders in Android 4.4 KitKat – xda-developers
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thats good so we dont have to rely on stupid manufacturer who doesnt update their phones
[email protected] said:
I think it is this Google Taking Aim at Device Modders in Android 4.4 KitKat – xda-developers
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this nothing new for us cuz Sammy already sat SELinux to enforcing with 4.3

Android 2.3 on Nexus 4

Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
opssemnik said:
no qualcomm drivers for gb , no gb with hardware enabled, so it would lag even when opening app drawer.
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How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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PenguinxEnjoi said:
How about ICS? The n4 shipped with jb so ICS probably easy enough right?
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ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
Ace42 said:
This is ridiculous. KK is more optimized than previous versions. JB is faster on my vibrant than when it was on older versions. My N4 is significantly more responsive on KK than JB. Going backwards will fix nothing.
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Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
If home button lags for you, try a different browser.
eksasol said:
It'd be slow, the newer version are much more optimized, you can test web browsing with GB vs JB.
If you want to use GB, get an original Galaxy Note and use Odin to flash it back to Gingerbread. That was one of my favorite phone and one of the last phone Samsung made with decent build quality, imo (here come the Samsung fanboys).
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You don't think the Galaxy S5 has good build quality? The Galaxy note was more of a square brick than a phone imo. I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
PenguinxEnjoi said:
Is kit kat on your N4 not messing up the responsiveness of your home and back keys? It lags so bad for me, and location services take longer on 4.4 for me. Idk why.
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First off, going back to GB is just silly. Not only will GB been slower than kit kat, it is also ugly as hell in comparison, with half the functionality, plus many google apps need android 4.0+ to get their full functionality.
Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot.
PenguinxEnjoi said:
I think GB would fly through every benchmark and be way better in real world performance than JB or Kit Kat.
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My trusty old nexus s does not think so.
opssemnik said:
KK most optimized? do thell me, that home button that takes 3 times more to do the thing,ahh and those god awful lag in Dungeon Hunter 4,i got back to 4.3.
PS: yeah it would fly, about ics is so easy because of lgog, im already making changes in some cm9 roms with those libs, but i dont know why lg uses adreno 200 blobs O_OO(or atleast is what says on logcat, it fails to create the buffer :/)
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Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
Ps2: "Kit kat runs faster than anything else on the nexus 4, especially with ART on. If you get lags/issues, then something else went wrong, most likely in the way you upgraded. I suggest you flash the factory images through fastboot", thats the problem, when u use dalvik is slower then 4.3, u need to use ART to get more speed then u had on 4.3
opssemnik said:
ics from samsung?, the wors optimized android is 1.6 on htc g1, it was 2x more slower then 1.5 on dat device
Ps: is not lag like u running android on a 200mhz device, but its some little lags like samsung roms have.(who used s3 with ics knows what i mean).
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Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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anto.danny said:
ICS is the worst Android OS in terms of performance ...my days with ICS on my SII were horrible
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MameTozhio said:
Why is everyone experiencing these strange lags on 4.4. I don't have them...
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Ace42 said:
Cupcake was very good for the g1, not sure why donut was like molasses on it. Anyway, I am not having odd button lag on my n4 under kk+Ak kernel.
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neither me dont know why, but yeah, i got better wifi speed(some ppl are complaining that) but lags on screen buttons, and on some simple things like recent apps menu. :/.
Lag is always relative to the individual person. Something that is considered smooth and "lag free" may seem the opposite to someone else.
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I'm using Eco mode on AK kernel and the buttons are near instant. My exact setup is:
AK 132KK + Gnome PKK
Deadline sch, 128
Intelli plug + intellidemand
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To everyone that has lag on Kitkat... have you by chance done a dirty flash?
It was behaving erratic for me too until I started with a clean slate. Backup your data, let the factory image flash do its job and voila, fast Kitkat.
PenguinxEnjoi said:
Come on guys, think about it. It would be so fast.
Has someone made a GB ROM for the Nexus 4? I bet it would be wicked fast and smooth compared to other ROMs with higher Android versions. Is there anything that holds it back from getting GB?
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Why would you think it would be fast?
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I want my 2 minutes back. I can't believe this went further then the first post
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GB was not optimized for multi-core CPUs. Would run like garbage.
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