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HD2 speed in comparison to other androids

hi guys, i was just curious how fast the hd2 is compared to the likes of nexus s sgs and desire hd on cm7 and miui. any input would be greatly appreciated. thnx!
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got hd2 nand android, desire HD on custom rom and galaxy S2 on custom rom, samsung by far quicker, but hd is quicker then desire HD by far

OrionCarl said:
got hd2 nand android, desire HD on custom rom and galaxy S2 on custom rom, samsung by far quicker, but hd is quicker then desire HD by far
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wow, didnt expect HD to be faster than DHD! thanks for the input! btw, just out of interest, how do the screens compare between those three devices? im guessing SGS2 would have far better screen

Galaxy S2 is faster, but some programs may start faster on the HD2, and I know that's strange! and it happens randomly. probably related to background processes or something.
HD2 is also not always faster than DHD, it's just the huge amount of tweaking the HD2 ROMs get that they feel faster, but that performance is ROM-dependent.
If you get two tweaked ROMs, one on the HD2 and the other on DHD, and both from the same developer (Core team makes ROMs for both as far as I can remember), I bet the DHD will be faster.
Samsung screens IMHO are the best on the market, but having to deal with a none-sense droid phone with not much of custom ROMs is a pain.

Dr.Move said:
Galaxy S2 is faster, but some programs may start faster on the HD2, and I know that's strange! and it happens randomly. probably related to background processes or something.
HD2 is also not always faster than DHD, it's just the huge amount of tweaking the HD2 ROMs get that they feel faster, but that performance is ROM-dependent.
If you get two tweaked ROMs, one on the HD2 and the other on DHD, and both from the same developer (Core team makes ROMs for both as far as I can remember), I bet the DHD will be faster.
Samsung screens IMHO are the best on the market, but having to deal with a none-sense droid phone with not much of custom ROMs is a pain.
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thnx for the input just outta interest, how do the battery life compare? quite interested in WP7 battery span as well as MIUI on HD2. btw does the hd2 happen to have any graphical problems on MIUI or WP7?
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jay_993 said:
thnx for the input just outta interest, how do the battery life compare? quite interested in WP7 battery span as well as MIUI on HD2. btw does the hd2 happen to have any graphical problems on MIUI or WP7?
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I run NAND Android on my HD2 and have been running Android on mine for close to 9 months. Granted I run a non-sense ROM (Hyperdroid-CM7) as my daily driver. But I tested dozens of NAND Android ROMs for the HD2 and it run pretty much all ROMs very smoothly with the exception of the Sense 3.0 ROMs, It was laggy with those ROMs. The MIUI ROMs run pretty smooth on the HD2 but you do have an occasional lag here and there, but I stress the word occasional.
As for your original question the HD2 can hang with just about any native Android device on the market with the same or close to the same specs. Now keep in mind I am not talking about any of new devices sporting dual core processors with bigger RAM and mor memory.

T-Macgnolia said:
I run NAND Android on my HD2 and have been running Android on mine for close to 9 months. Granted I run a non-sense ROM (Hyperdroid-CM7) as my daily driver. But I tested dozens of NAND Android ROMs for the HD2 and it run pretty much all ROMs very smoothly with the exception of the Sense 3.0 ROMs, It was laggy with those ROMs. The MIUI ROMs run pretty smooth on the HD2 but you do have an occasional lag here and there, but I stress the word occasional.
As for your original question the HD2 can hang with just about any native Android device on the market with the same or close to the same specs. Now keep in mind I am not talking about any of new devices sporting dual core processors with bigger RAM and mor memory.
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hey thanks for the long answer. just out of interest, where does it specifically lag when using miui?
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jay_993 said:
hey thanks for the long answer. just out of interest, where does it specifically lag when using miui?
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The only real lag was when you would first open a app sometimes it would take somtimes the a second or two to open. It would also happen when you would be transitioning from one function to another, you know like when you opened the phone or camera. But it was always just a second or two delay/lag nothing that is intolerable. Or nothing most other native Android devices do from time to time. But the Sense 3.0 ROMs were borderline intolerable, at least for me.

Htc HD2: Best phone ever

A few days ago I was looking a some older threads some 2 year olds and they were thinking of how to port android on it. And now our HD2 has been able to run android 4 on it. I think it was my lucky day I bought this device. Its one of the best devices ever made.
I am able to play GTA3 flawlessly on it which todays high end devices do.
HTC should really bring out HTC HD3 . Successor to one of the best phone ever

True. I bought hd2 abt a year ago, and lost it. And I was about to buy a new phone, but wen I started thinking abt which phone to buy, I got so confused that I just bought a hd2 once again, no one can replace it.
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What Makes Hd2 This Special...?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644316
HD2 best hackable phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915314

GTA flawlessly? ? It lags like hell on my Desire S with a second Gen CPU and 768 MB ram! How can it run smoothly on a 1st ggem?
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olyloh6696 said:
GTA flawlessly? ? It lags like hell on my Desire S with a second Gen CPU and 768 MB ram! How can it run smoothly on a 1st ggem?
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Depends on ROM and configurations.
In the past the same models phone was the same for everyone, but today the same models are completely different, thanks to their strong software customization

cheerphaar said:
I am able to play GTA3 flawlessly on it which today's high end devices do.
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I smell BS on this one...
It's a great phone for then and even now as an introduction but it's screen lacks colours and cpu/gpu are getting dated.
Mind you I still have 2 Hd2's and now exclusively use a Galaxy S which at 4"" is peeeeeeeeeeeeerfect for me especially with CM7 installed....one hand perfecto operation with swype....
Once you go amoled you see perfect blacks...
hTc seriously stuffed up with the models introduced after the HD2. There has not been one model that surpasses the legendary HD2 and that's saying a lot. Maybe next year hTc will get it right..maybe...

cheerphaar said:
A few days ago I was looking a some older threads some 2 year olds and they were thinking of how to port android on it. And now our HD2 has been able to run android 4 on it. I think it was my lucky day I bought this device. Its one of the best devices ever made.
I am able to play GTA3 flawlessly on it which todays high end devices do.
HTC should really bring out HTC HD3 . Successor to one of the best phone ever
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BULLSH1T!
I tried loads of roms and configs to get GTA3 working and nothing worked, Just kept getting lags and closes.
If you deny its a lie what rom/config you using?

GTA is working fine on the rom i got... games get at least +10fps on HWA.

Yes GTA 3 works perfectly. Try tytung or Xylographs HWA ROMS . Gettinh 45+ fps in it . Plus the battery drain is also so good. Try those roms

And yes no customizations whatever its running fast without any lags with stock in those rom
And sorry I wrote that I played that game,
. No I seldom play games but it runs flwlessly in those rom I know that

xlr8me said:
I smell BS on this one...
It's a great phone for then and even now as an introduction but it's screen lacks colours and cpu/gpu are getting dated.
Mind you I still have 2 Hd2's and now exclusively use a Galaxy S which at 4"" is peeeeeeeeeeeeerfect for me especially with CM7 installed....one hand perfecto operation with swype....
Once you go amoled you see perfect blacks...
hTc seriously stuffed up with the models introduced after the HD2. There has not been one model that surpasses the legendary HD2 and that's saying a lot. Maybe next year hTc will get it right..maybe...
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There is no BS, works fine for me as well but with bit lower settings on graphics part.
perfect blacks ? try comparing whites and tell me. so how is the backlight leaks ? how is the plastic body ? how is gps ? Don't just compare things where the other contender might excel.

TheATHEiST said:
BULLSH1T!
I tried loads of roms and configs to get GTA3 working and nothing worked, Just kept getting lags and closes.
If you deny its a lie what rom/config you using?
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Not entirely bull****.
cheerphaar said:
Yes GTA 3 works perfectly. Try tytung or Xylographs HWA ROMS . Gettinh 45+ fps in it . Plus the battery drain is also so good. Try those roms
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And yes no customizations whatever its running fast without any lags with stock in those rom
And sorry I wrote that I played that game,
. No I seldom play games but it runs flwlessly in those rom I know that
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Not entirely true. Even with full HWA, you need to decrease the game's distant of view, visual FX, this & that to get it working without lag. Out of the box, it is laggy.

Marvlesz said:
Not entirely true. Even with full HWA, you need to decrease the game's distant of view, visual FX, this & that to get it working without lag. Out of the box, it is laggy.
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No, With hardware accelaration you can play it without any modifications. With dorimanxs rom it needed some modification to be playable but that wasnt HWA

cheerphaar said:
No, With hardware accelaration you can play it without any modifications. With dorimanxs rom it needed some modification to be playable but that wasnt HWA
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And it will still lag...
Post a video to prove it doesn't. I don't believe your claims at all. My tweaked DS with a Second Gen S2 CPU and 768mb RAM still lags. How can your S1 still be smooth?
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olyloh6696 said:
And it will still lag...
Post a video to prove it doesn't. I don't believe your claims at all. My tweaked DS with a Second Gen S2 CPU and 768mb RAM still lags. How can your S1 still be smooth?
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Simple. Bad optimization.

retsam88 said:
Simple. Bad optimization.
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Its not. I'm using a heavily tweaked ROM on my phone, (tested different types) these ROMs are greatly optimized by legendary devs. I'm using CM7/Sense etc etc, all have the same result.
I don't think this is possible for the HD2
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Okay . Ill post a make a video soon. For this Ill have to flash another ROM . I have only one HD2. I ll post a video soon. Wait.
P.S The HD2 is running adreno 200 for which it is impossible to play GTA3. plus only 1ghz processor against DUAL-CORES. Ill post a video soon just let me get done with this ROM.
I think well have a master piece as soon as Dorimanx gets to ICS HWA. He did it with GB. Lets see what monster he will create now.

olyloh6696 said:
Its not. I'm using a heavily tweaked ROM on my phone, (tested different types) these ROMs are greatly optimized by legendary devs. I'm using CM7/Sense etc etc, all have the same result.
I don't think this is possible for the HD2
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Arrogance and ignorance, have you tweaked kgsl ? have you tweaked pmem ? have you tweaked ashmem ? have you tweaked binder ? have you tweaked mm ? is the kernel using latest drivers from qualcomm/caf ?
Saga kernel is not even using 3.x kgsl, on leo which is using A MUCH older kernel, we have kgsl 3.8, so stop giving random excuses for the failure on your part.
Have you even tried playing GTA 3 on a hd2 with ics ? probably not (you don't even own one according to your sig).
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I don't think this is possible for the HD2
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Nothing is impossible fyi, just needs some time, patience and knowledge.

Rick_1995 said:
Arrogance and ignorance, have you tweaked kgsl ? have you tweaked pmem ? have you tweaked ashmem ? have you tweaked binder ? have you tweaked mm ? is the kernel using latest drivers from qualcomm/caf ?
Saga kernel is not even using 3.x kgsl, on leo which is using A MUCH older kernel, we have kgsl 3.8, so stop giving random excuses for the failure on your part.
Have you even tried playing GTA 3 on a hd2 with ics ? probably not (you don't even own one according to your sig).
Nothing is impossible fyi, just needs some time, patience and knowledge.
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Hello,
I sincerely apologize for my posts yesterday, they are rude and arrogant. I shouldn't even be in this forum.
I'm just puzzled to how GTA runs flawlessly on this phone? I have seen MANY videos on YouTube of GTA and from what I can tell, it doesn't look too impressive...
No, I never said I tweaked the ROM. I'm saying the ROMs I've used have been tweaked for performance by devs which might even have the tweaks you mentioned? We have devs like the Virtuous Team, MDJ, Capychimp etc.
Anyway, looking forward to the video.
Peace

olyloh6696 said:
Hello,
I sincerely apologize for my posts yesterday, they are rude and arrogant. I shouldn't even be in this forum.
I'm just puzzled to how GTA runs flawlessly on this phone? I have seen MANY videos on YouTube of GTA and from what I can tell, it doesn't look too impressive...
No, I never said I tweaked the ROM. I'm saying the ROMs I've used have been tweaked for performance by devs which might even have the tweaks you mentioned? We have devs like the Virtuous Team, MDJ, Capychimp etc.
Anyway, looking forward to the video.
Peace
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There you go, was kinda hard controlling stuff with one finger and all the while doing it through the camera's viewfinder. Just installed the game and started a new story, So no game *tweaks* etc applied, graphics were the default settings from the game. The phone is not overclocked.
I am already working on kgsl-3d0 v3.9 so we should see another performance bump soon
Battery is awesome too, 25 hours and still at 56% battery with no airplane mode, data on throughout, Wifi for ~12 hours.

Official 4.2 Update on ZTE N880E. What gives..?

As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Either Google is being a ****** or Android 4.2 will run like **** on that device.

Nexus HAL said:
As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Because Nexus S is a old device for two years that still is supported from 2.3 to 4.1.2 version.
It is unique!
p/s: I think 512MB RAM is so little for 4.1.2 version.

Agree (I red an article about 2 generations support of latest phones by the google, or equivalent 1,5 to 2 years support).
I didn't expect JB 4.1 update as official (I have been surprised)... so if you would like to 4,2, you have to root and flash

Google updates it's devices.
Zte updates they're own devices.
Has you can imagine, Google does not update other manufacturer's devices...
Summing up: You should have bought a ZTE

muldy said:
Google updates it's devices.
Zte updates they're own devices.
Has you can imagine, Google does not update other manufacturer's devices...
Summing up: You should have bought a ZTE
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Thanks for the heads up :laugh: Your signature says you use two nexus devices unrooted n with locked bootloader. hmm.. got it!
Anyways guys.. I wasn't dying to get the OTA from google as some of you have made it look like. I was just thinking if there was an official AOSP code available, our hardworking developers would've had to go through a 'little less' pain in bringing us some freshly baked 4.2 custom ROMs.
That's it.

Nexus HAL said:
As reported by Android Central, ZTE N880E a 1GHz/ 512 MB phone is getting Android 4.2 update officially.
I'm confused if ZTE's Cortex A5 + Adreno 200 GPU can run 4.2, whats wrong with Nexus S Cortex A8 + PVR540 GPU.
As far as I understand, the later is obviously more powerful! And unlike Nexus One, Nexus S isn't crippled by limited internal storage either!
Then why..?
http://www.androidcentral.com/zte-p...ice?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Only thing that runs heavily in 4.2 is the new lockscreen with widgets. I wonder if ZTE left those in their 4.2 implementation and how it behaves.

All zte devices are lagging like hell, even the high end ones. So, screw zte, they will put even KLP on low end devices just to have it, they dont care about fluidness etc.
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I don't see the big deal with ota when we have great devs that bring us the latest anyways... I've been running a near flawless 4.2 on my NS4G for a few days now... Considering ota dropped less than 2 weeks ago for supported devices, I'm surprised such a stable build is out already...
I've discovered that if I don't use crappy Facebook app and I leave "sync" off when I want to actually use my phone, this phone flies on 4.2... To be fair, I had to do this on 4.1 as well... Not sure if I did this on 4.0 or not... But I'm sure most people would find 4.2 slow on these phones unless they tweak them like I have to get it this fluid...
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the1dynasty said:
I don't see the big deal with ota when we have great devs that bring us the latest anyways... I've been running a near flawless 4.2 on my NS4G for a few days now... Considering ota dropped less than 2 weeks ago for supported devices, I'm surprised such a stable build is out already...
I've discovered that if I don't use crappy Facebook app and I leave "sync" off when I want to actually use my phone, this phone flies on 4.2... To be fair, I had to do this on 4.1 as well... Not sure if I did this on 4.0 or not... But I'm sure most people would find 4.2 slow on these phones unless they tweak them like I have to get it this fluid...
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I am too using 4.2 with marmite, and its all so smooth. Only 2 finger notification bar pull lags because of tiles. 1 finger pull is smooth. And 4.2 is better in any aspect than 4.1.2. I cant wait for roms start popin out.(if some devs stay here )
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alen1901 said:
I am too using 4.2 with marmite, and its all so smooth. Only 2 finger notification bar pull lags because of tiles. 1 finger pull is smooth. And 4.2 is better in any aspect than 4.1.2. I cant wait for roms start popin out.(if some devs stay here )
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its better performance wise? what about battery? cuz I dont care one bit for the new features.

Grahaman27 said:
its better performance wise? what about battery? cuz I dont care one bit for the new features.
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Performance is great, im shocked how well it is working. Battery is the same for me like on 4.1.2. 1 day 3hours on battery, 3hours 30minutes screen on time, 1 and a half hours music, YouTube, a lot of browsing, XDA etc. Im pleased about battery too.
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Performance is great, im shocked how well it is working. Battery is the same for me like on 4.1.2. 1 day 3hours on battery, 3hours 30minutes screen on time, 1 and a half hours music, YouTube, a lot of browsing, XDA etc. Im pleased about battery too.
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sounds great!! :good:

Solution to a lagless device

I know I should have posted this in the q&a but maybe we could have a discussion on the matter.
So as we know, this phone is one of the lagless devices I've ever had and I've had quite a handful of phones recently so I wanted to know your opinions on what do you thunk may be the reason. I know HTC dedicated about a fourth of the ram to hardware and I think that helps a lot. Do you think it's that or just plain old optimization?
From the way I see it, I think it's a big help from the hardware ram but lots of credits due to optimization. What do you think, why do you think so, and what are your views on hardware marrying software?

It's down to both hardware and software optimization, looks like HTC's Sense 5 has been built from the ground up to work with the new processors and Android JellyBean. They've done a great job stripping down the unnecessary bloatware and complicated options. They have refined the software to a point that everything just snaps.
For the first time since Sense first got released, I actually prefer this to stock Android. Love Sense 5
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I agreed. It's butter. Had a gs4 for almost 2 weeks can't never compare to the smoothness of the HTC one.
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did not notice any lag on InsertCoin 3.0

HTC have done a solid job on Sense 5 but I also think it's down to not including a bunch of useless software (like on the S4) and sticking with the tried and tested 4.1.2. I hope 4.2.2 and above are just as non lagging and stable. I can't believe how stable this device is.
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It's not so much about this or that, but it's just that Samsung for whatever reason has not fully implemented Project Butter, the biggest feature for many for 4.1 The S3 didn't have as much bloatware as the S4, but when the One X and S3 got updated to JB, the difference was night and day on the One X, while it MOSTLY stayed the same on the S3.

true story, project butter fully implemented even on the One X JB
equally HTC is known to use higher speed internal storage mmc
and of course the whole Sense 5 light thing and being optimized specifically for the s600 (unlike the s4 exynos and s600 duality)
lets just say its a very clean job
regarding 4.2.2, it's even smoother after the OTA especially the app drawer

Dont know if anythings wrong or the reason that im using the power save mode all the time.......my phone lags a bit at times, any other conclusion anyone??

hamdir said:
and of course the whole Sense 5 light thing and being optimized specifically for the s600 (unlike the s4 exynos and s600 duality)
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My last samsung was the sgs2, which could be perceived as laggy but in reality wasn't, some of the perceived lagginess was caused by design decisions (eg home botton lag, which was so multiclick combos can be done).
Try another (generic, not specically optimized launcher) launcher on a Galaxy phone and see it not lag at all....

phsetaknev said:
Dont know if anythings wrong or the reason that im using the power save mode all the time.......my phone lags a bit at times, any other conclusion anyone??
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Itd *could* be powersaver if your cpu limit is set. It will limit the cpu speed between 384-1134mhz when its on. 384-1727mhz when its off. Also, if you have alot of apps running in the background using *cpu* that *could* be it too....
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Get me to the REVOLUTION !

I've read amazing things about the Android Revolution ROM, and I can see from the poll how it has (apparently) way more users than any other ROM.
So I have a question for Revolution fans: now that I'm addicted to the look and feel and small and big features of Jellybean ... how can I possibly go back to a Gingerbread environment?
No kidding, sell me to the idea because I can't bear myself to seriously try it, as I feel like GB will somehow make my device older, slower, feature-poor, unwieldy, etc.
(I was there when GB was the latest and sexyest, and I loved it, up untill ICS and then JB came along)
I guess it is all just a mental hickup of mine.
So please, help me get past it ... tell me what would be the catch in going back to a GB environment

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That explains a lot... good thing I chose to wait until next morning to reply XD

Drunk or not, but ARHD v10 ICS Sense4 is coming nevertheless!

good to know
but it still doesn't answer my doubts... which then will become ICS-vs-JB instead of GB-vs-JB

with gb your camera working better
your device is faster and the quality of sound is awesome..jb doesnt fit to your device you like it or not
you have desire hd i supose right?

yep, I've got a DesireHD bought 3 years ago, in Italy.
So you're saying that performance (and various apps, like Camera) is actually better ... considerind how Jellytime and Cyanogen are behaving in a bat**** crazy way in the past few days (and the new CodefireXperimental 4.3 is yet to come out) I guess I'll give it a try
Is 7.3 the latest for DHD? ...from the original Revolution post it seems the latest would be 9.0 but I can't find the download link for my device
Ok, scratch that last part, I'm more asleep than I originally thought ... found the 9.0 files XD

silvano2 said:
with gb your camera working better
your device is faster and the quality of sound is awesome..jb doesnt fit to your device you like it or not
you have desire hd i supose right?
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I doubt the camera in Sense 4 is any worse, and on AOSP you can always install MIUI one from GB which does a really decent job on DHD.
SQ is also great on Sense4. Now as for the "faster", this is a bold stament. To be more specific GB is more responsive, better on multitasking, but ICS/JB is way smoother (there is no comparison when browsing) and it still isn't slow or laggy at all.

use this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127250
trust me

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Drunk or not, but ARHD v10 ICS Sense4 is coming nevertheless!
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WHAT?! when did they release the kernel/ROM?!?!
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