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[DEBATE NEEDED] Broken Nexus One Power Button

Hey all.
As you all know, the N1 has a design defect that eventually causes the power button to break down after prolonged use. It's a design issue related to wear and tear. No avoiding this one. Just how long.
Mine got lucky, lasted slightly more than a year. Couple of days back, it eventually caved in.
So now, I'm considering a few options and I'd like to get some feedback from anyone.
If you were in my shoes:
1) Would you repair?
Cost being approximately $100-120 USD. With the phone almost certain to be scratched as part of the repair process. And with that, being certain that the battery button will someday eventually break down again due to the design defect.
2) Get a new phone NOW?
Cost being approximately $575-600 USD. Probably get either a MT4G or Desire HD/ACE.
Pros being = better screen type for multitouch, more ram, more internal hd, bigger screen, better cpu, better gpu.
Cons being = bad screen tech (LCD = crap colors & battery vs amoled), slow ROM updates unless you run custom (which is do, running CM, but official drivers, etc aren't out till the official stuff moves forward as well.), uber bad battery life (though this is subjective, let's say - average 8-10 hours a day), no 2nd mic for noise suppression, no trackball.
3) Wait for dual cores to come out in the next 2-3 months and get one then.
Which means buying at potentially up market costs because the tech is considered new and supply will probably be less than demand.
Would like to hear some ideas from the community. =) Thanks br0s. And uh, sis'. Lol.

1.Repair
2.Root
3.Flash CM7
4.Sell on Swappa
5.Make money from the repair with some spare to put twards new phone.
6.Buy New Phone.
7.??????????????????
8. Profit!
ez

shanxybeast said:
1.Repair
2.Root
3.Flash CM7
4.Sell on Swappa
5.Make money from the repair with some spare to put twards new phone.
6.Buy New Phone.
7.??????????????????
8. Profit!
ez
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Already rooted. Already on CM. I live in Malaysia. No profit due to shipping costs. Lol.

Maybe you want to try local HTC support? Check the cost for the repair 1st before deciding.

I think repair.. u can trade in low yat plaza .. n1 is still rare in malaysia.. mine got n1 too.. but still lucky no power button issue..
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I sent it to Vodafone Spain technical service (it was still under warranty) and got it replaced by a brand new one.
To avoid a new power button failure, I'm using No-Lock widget and Lock Screen.

I repaired mine myself last week, $40 (aprox) part from eBay, 2 hours work tops and it now works perfectly. I did make some very small scratches in the antenne cover, but I can live with that. Don't regret it in the least, now I'm ready to wait for a dual-core "Google experience" phone...
Besides, once you have the phone open you can make sure the small button inside doesn't move around (glue or small piece of paper), as others have said that that helped in not having the problem again.

lenrek said:
Maybe you want to try local HTC support? Check the cost for the repair 1st before deciding.
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There' no support for Nexus One in Malaysia. I called HTC Malaysia already. They said I'd have to send it to Singapore.
are-red said:
I think repair.. u can trade in low yat plaza .. n1 is still rare in malaysia.. mine got n1 too.. but still lucky no power button issue..
Don't think trade in will give me much sadly. Repair will cost me RM350. Was thinking of picking up Desire HD at RM1750. *Sam tong.*
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ToxicDude said:
I repaired mine myself last week, $40 (aprox) part from eBay, 2 hours work tops and it now works perfectly. I did make some very small scratches in the antenne cover, but I can live with that. Don't regret it in the least, now I'm ready to wait for a dual-core "Google experience" phone...
Besides, once you have the phone open you can make sure the small button inside doesn't move around (glue or small piece of paper), as others have said that that helped in not having the problem again.
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Yeah, I'm considering repairing it on my own. Do you have the process guide? I heard you have to disassemble nearly the entire thing just to replace that board. Was hoping to solder the flex cable if possible. Do share your thoughts, am very keen to hear more.

chowlala, the 3 options given are of different magnitude in terms of objective and cost. Don't get me wrong, I have an N1 with broken power button too.
For now, the best option is to install one of those "power button replacement" software such as AnyUnlock.
If you plan to ditch the N1 later, then wait for the dual core phone. Just buy the phone you like, don't worry so much about the price. And buy the phone online or from Singapore (if not commonly available in Malaysia) coz its definitely cheaper compared to places like Low Yat.
The above is what I will do

colins said:
chowlala, the 3 options given are of different magnitude in terms of objective and cost. Don't get me wrong, I have an N1 with broken power button too.
For now, the best option is to install one of those "power button replacement" software such as AnyUnlock.
If you plan to ditch the N1 later, then wait for the dual core phone. Just buy the phone you like, don't worry so much about the price. And buy the phone online or from Singapore (if not commonly available in Malaysia) coz its definitely cheaper compared to places like Low Yat.
The above is what I will do
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Agreed. Very true.
Everybody would love to save money obviously.
I can live with the broken power button. I believe it's only a matter of getting used to it. And I'm pretty alright with ADB and running mods on the phone. So updating, etc will still be fine. And I'm currently using the Lock Widget, with Sleep on the pull down notification bar and long press Home to sleep the phone as well. Lol.
Only concern now then would be, how to power up the phone when I'm not near a cable. Anyone got any ideas?
I would love to keep the n1 if I can figure this one out. As of this point, everything is still alright as long as I'm near a cable. But if the phone hangs when I'm not near a cable.
That's a problem. =(

You certainly can live without the power button (I did for over two months) but it is a pain every time you have to power it off/on. The problem became too bothersome for me when needing to fly and when needing to swap sim cards, and not always having a pc at hand.
In any case, the replacement process does need for the entire phone to be disassembled, but the guide at ifixit was detailed enough for me. I did try to solder or otherwise fix the cable before replacing it, but it was impossible (very small, short, flexible and, in my case, it was completely severed). To see the cable you don't need to dismantle the whole phone, just the battery cover and the screws behind it.
After changing the board, I used some cable coating to make sure the button sat firmly and that cable was under as little stress as possible. Lets hope this time it lasts more than 8 months.

Can someone explain what the method is to reinforce the power button (with pictures if possible)?
Also, does this apply to the volume buttons too? On one of my refurbs, the top volume button got unresponsive and was probably dying the same way these power buttons do.
EDIT: didn't see you post before I did. I wonder if it's possible to secure the power button and volume button boards in a way that prevents stress on the cables.

I've been "living" without a power button for more than 4 months now, using a combination of "no lock" and "lock 2.0" to turn the device on and off.
As for the reboot issue, i always have a usb cable at hand and a small portable usb/dc charger when there's no laptop around.
PS I'm on stock.

I don't know of there being a generally accepted way to reinforce the power button. If you search you'll find very different ideas and opinions.
I think that the problem is that the button in the board rests over a metallic support that is part of the structure of the phone. However, the button just rests there, and depending on how you press the power button on top it can move around stressing the cable in the process. After spending some time with the phone open, I think that any solution that fixes the button in its place (glue, paper, o cable coating like I used) should help in reducing cable stress and extending its life. In any case, I don't think any of these solutions are permanent and eventually the cable will break again.
As for the volumen buttons, I have not heard about problems with them as they are are much better supported and there is no movement, cable stress or anything in that part of the phone. If you are having problems with them, maybe it's just dust or something else that got into your phone?
I'm still using widgets and trackball wake (I'm in CM7, so...), just to extend the useful life of the button as much as possible.

elio said:
I've been "living" without a power button for more than 4 months now, using a combination of "no lock" and "lock 2.0" to turn the device on and off.
As for the reboot issue, i always have a usb cable at hand and a small portable usb/dc charger when there's no laptop around.
PS I'm on stock.
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Yeah, I've got trackball wake and lock widgets and stuff. But I can't be carrying around a usb cable and charger all the time. Lol. I have a set in my car though.
OJ in Compton said:
Can someone explain what the method is to reinforce the power button (with pictures if possible)?
Also, does this apply to the volume buttons too? On one of my refurbs, the top volume button got unresponsive and was probably dying the same way these power buttons do.
EDIT: didn't see you post before I did. I wonder if it's possible to secure the power button and volume button boards in a way that prevents stress on the cables.
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Your ribbons in the flex cable are probably fraying. That's what happened with mine. It slowly became more and more unresponsive until one point it just chucked out.
ToxicDude said:
You certainly can live without the power button (I did for over two months) but it is a pain every time you have to power it off/on. The problem became too bothersome for me when needing to fly and when needing to swap sim cards, and not always having a pc at hand.
In any case, the replacement process does need for the entire phone to be disassembled, but the guide at ifixit was detailed enough for me. I did try to solder or otherwise fix the cable before replacing it, but it was impossible (very small, short, flexible and, in my case, it was completely severed). To see the cable you don't need to dismantle the whole phone, just the battery cover and the screws behind it.
After changing the board, I used some cable coating to make sure the button sat firmly and that cable was under as little stress as possible. Lets hope this time it lasts more than 8 months.
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Hmm. Very interesting. I'm not keen on opening up the entire unit to fix the flex cable though. And I was at the repair shop when the guy told me the process, and I pulled back. I would go crazy if there was dust UNDER the screen. Hence why I would like to try soldering the cables first. Any idea on how to go about with that?

chowlala said:
Only concern now then would be, how to power up the phone when I'm not near a cable. Anyone got any ideas?
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One of those USB battery pack will do.
e.g. Sanyo Eneloop Mobile Booster

How to Manage a Nexus One with a broken Power Button
Here's how I manage my Nexus One to "PREVENT" the power button failure.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/08/manage-nexus-broken-power-button/

colins said:
One of those USB battery pack will do.
e.g. Sanyo Eneloop Mobile Booster
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Yeah, but like I said, would be difficult to carry around. I hate having stuff in my pockets. If only like some sdcard-eject-reinsert or SIM card thing could work. That would be perfect. But of course I'm probably asking for too much already. Haha.
zekers said:
Here's how I manage my Nexus One to "PREVENT" the power button failure.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/08/manage-nexus-broken-power-button/
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Yeah, that's a really good write up. I read that the instant my power button broke and has helped me reorientate real quick. I highly recommend the article to those who are facing the same problem.

I actually just sent my nexus one in for repair (I'm in Singapore, just bring the phone to the center). I complained about my phone was just a few days out of warranty (3 days) though I had no receipt with me. They waived the shipping fee (S$53.50 since it's an import phone). Got the phone back a week later with a quote of S$41.50 (not bad at all). The only down size is that the technician somehow didn't plug the cable in all the way. Now I have random flash light when booting up the phone and when picking up the call. Might have to open it up to secure the connection or to send it in for repair again (I have 3 moths of warranty for this part anyhow)
Hope it can help. I had the button failure as well. At the time I send the phone in, MIUI was installed and I did not get any complain about that.

popophobia said:
I actually just sent my nexus one in for repair (I'm in Singapore, just bring the phone to the center). I complained about my phone was just a few days out of warranty (3 days) though I had no receipt with me. They waived the shipping fee (S$53.50 since it's an import phone). Got the phone back a week later with a quote of S$41.50 (not bad at all). The only down size is that the technician somehow didn't plug the cable in all the way. Now I have random flash light when booting up the phone and when picking up the call. Might have to open it up to secure the connection or to send it in for repair again (I have 3 moths of warranty for this part anyhow)
Hope it can help. I had the button failure as well. At the time I send the phone in, MIUI was installed and I did not get any complain about that.
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I would send it in if I was in Singapore. Not sure how they'd deal with someone from Malaysia though. Repairs + travel/postage would cost quite a bomb. Though I've seen the board part costing about 30 euros. And I would be quite mad if I was returned a phone that has a random flash of light. Lol.
I thought hardware warranty and software warranty were two different issues? Besides, it's a well documented fact that the Nexus One and Desire suffer the same problem... no?
Maybe I can call in and report the phone as a Desire for repairs. LOL.

[q] mt4g suddenly turned off itself cant turn back on...

I've been runnin the unity rom for a couple of months now( i was) with no issues at all, when yesterday morning my phone turned off itself and i haven't been able to bring it back to life. i dont know if i have the bad chip, never cared to check but i regret it now lol... any sugestions would help.... also i have tried turning on w/o sim card with a different battery, also tried to get it to bootloader but it just wont turn on at all.. thanks in advance

frankgbacoa said:
I've been runnin the unity rom for a couple of months now( i was) with no issues at all, when yesterday morning my phone turned off itself and i haven't been able to bring it back to life. i dont know if i have the bad chip, never cared to check but i regret it now lol... any sugestions would help.... also i have tried turning on w/o sim card with a different battery, also tried to get it to bootloader but it just wont turn on at all.. thanks in advance
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Does the computer recognize it?
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If you're talking about no power at all, it doesn't sound like a software issue. It sounds like an electrical issue.
If the screen backlight comes on when you hit the power button, then it could be software or electronic (borked chip, broken circuit board, etc)
Plugging it in, even if it's a dead phone, should still charge the battery if the electrical circuits are good. The LED will come on at orange or green and that should tell you if there is physically electricity running through the circuits.
If you get nothing, something in the phone died. I'm starting to realize the MT4G has a pretty poor build quality.
If the battery is charging and the backlight comes out, maybe a quick vibrate to indicate charging, then you could have some kind of an electrical short in the circuitry somewhere.
Or you just have a bad power button. That's a possibly. But that's odd that it turned itself off. That's what makes me think the power button itself isn't what's wrong.
In all cases it sounds dead. If you can't get to the recovery screen there's not much you can do.

saranhai said:
Does the computer recognize it?
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no the computer does not recognize..thanks

Skipjacks said:
If you're talking about no power at all, it doesn't sound like a software issue. It sounds like an electrical issue.
If the screen backlight comes on when you hit the power button, then it could be software or electronic (borked chip, broken circuit board, etc)
Plugging it in, even if it's a dead phone, should still charge the battery if the electrical circuits are good. The LED will come on at orange or green and that should tell you if there is physically electricity running through the circuits.
If you get nothing, something in the phone died. I'm starting to realize the MT4G has a pretty poor build quality.
If the battery is charging and the backlight comes out, maybe a quick vibrate to indicate charging, then you could have some kind of an electrical short in the circuitry somewhere.
Or you just have a bad power button. That's a possibly. But that's odd that it turned itself off. That's what makes me think the power button itself isn't what's wrong.
In all cases it sounds dead. If you can't get to the recovery screen there's not much you can do.
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no led lights it just died lol... it wont do a thing. im starting to think that it has some kind of short between the battery and the circuit that distributes power through out the phone.. thats my best guess.thanks

You can also check to make sure the battery isn't the problem by removing it and plugging the phone in. Again, the best you'll get is a brief flash of the backlight. But if you don't get that, you can be sure the battery itself isn't the problem.
Or just put a new battery in and see if that works.
This is highly unlikely to be the cause. But it's all about narrowing the possibilities. I've been fiddling with electronics for 20 years now. One thing I'm sure of is that you should never discount the really unlikely source of a problem. It won't usually be the answer, but every once in a while something you'd just never suspect ends up being the culprit.

I had the exact same issue, earlier this year. Your emmc chip gave you the bird. Go into Tmobile store, tell then your phone won't turn on, you tried the normal tricks, but nothing works. Act a little dumb with them,I did that an got a new one under warranty for $5, came in the mail the days later. DO NOT MENTION ANYTHING BOUT YOUR PHONE BEING ROOTED. If you do, your gonna have to pay full price for a new one or though the issuance company a $130(or whatever your deductible is).
Trust me on this, it works. I'm still using the phone they sent to me back in June.
If I helped, give thanks(via the button )
From my fist to your face, enjoy!

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I had the exact same issue, earlier this year. Your emmc chip gave you the bird. Go into Tmobile store, tell then your phone won't turn on, you tried the normal tricks, but nothing works. Act a little dumb with them,I did that an got a new one under warranty for $5, came in the mail the days later. DO NOT MENTION ANYTHING BOUT YOUR PHONE BEING ROOTED. If you do, your gonna have to pay full price for a new one or though the issuance company a $130(or whatever your deductible is).
Trust me on this, it works. I'm still using the phone they sent to me back in June.
If I helped, give thanks(via the button )
From my fist to your face, enjoy!
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ill try it tomorrow see if it works lol.... hopefully...thanks i was afraid of being the emmc chip.... damn it..

frankgbacoa said:
ill try it tomorrow see if it works lol.... hopefully...thanks i was afraid of being the emmc chip.... damn it..
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It's always good to be safe then sorry
If I helped, give thanks( via the button )
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Dead DHD, I supose this is goodbye... :(

I went bowling during weekend and my good old DHD just went off out of my shirt pocket and landed flat... even the silicone case didn't help, because it just wouldn't turn on anymore. When I connect it to a PC, it recognizes HTC phone and disk but orange light doesn't light up and power button does nothing. I suppose there's nothing I can do, if anyone has any ideas, you're welcome, but I think it is kaput
What would my fellow DHD'ers suggest for my next phone? Really cool new phones like Droid DNA and Nexus 4 aren't available in Europe and Czech, so I figured either One X or Galaxy Note 2. Any other suggestions?
Cheers, I'll still be on XDA in Nexus 7 forum anyways, but I'll really miss DHD and JellyTime...
D.

try to hold power button while inserting the battery.

Thanks for the tip, but no go...

It's sounds funny but could it be possible it fell on the corner where power led and power button are located? :laugh:
If PC recognizes it, then it's not dead.
I would try to dissasembly it and shorten power button contacts to see if that's the case.

-SmOgER said:
It's sounds funny but could it be possible it fell on the corner where power led and power button are located? :laugh:
If PC recognizes it, then it's not dead.
I would try to dissasembly it and shorten power button contacts to see if that's the case.
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Please try that, your DHD deserves it.
That old girl has a lot to give yet.
With the 4.2 ROMS out there is obvious that HTC betrayed us discontinuing support for our phones, and releasing less powered phones with ICS by default.

Maybe it's just the screen? Seriously dude, I would at least play with it just to see what's wrong...

uros0104 said:
Maybe it's just the screen? Seriously dude, I would at least play with it just to see what's wrong...
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It is not the screen since the orange light doesn't lit up when I connect it to the charger. I suspect the motherboard cracked, but who knows. As you say, I have nothing to lose, will try opening when I have some time...

dalanik said:
It is not the screen since the orange light doesn't lit up when I connect it to the charger. I suspect the motherboard cracked, but who knows. As you say, I have nothing to lose, will try opening when I have some time...
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I absolutely loved my Inspire 4G for the year and a half that I had her. But I moved on to a more powerful phone (S3). I still have it with Gingerbeast on it. But don't be sad about having to upgrade. Lol
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HTC should start putting impact zones on their motherboards like what Samsung does on their devices
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Sadly I don't have any tips for you, but I moved on to the note 2 and while plastic took about a week to get used to size was only a problem for the first couple of minutes. Speed wise its the first phone I haven't found the need to root of flash custom rom to speed it up (I still did it for the fun). Long story short I would highly recommend it.

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You ain't gonna believe this....

Wow... what a wild 48 hours... ok, it all started wed night. I came home from working the night shift, where I use my tablet in my truck instead of hauling around my laptop. I noticed it running like a hog so I rebooted it. It was rooted, unlocked, and all that jazz.. been through just about every rom ics and up. Never any real problems... until wed night. It got stuck on the Acer logo. Well, after much reading, and several tool downloads, for the life of me I couldn't get the thing to work. I was thinking it was a hard ware issue. I am expecting a pre paid label from Acer to send it in, even though it was out of warranty. I really had given up. I was using the tdv4 repair tool and it kept hanging a quarter way in. I noticed though, my pc wasn't communicating properly with the tab. I followed the link somewhere in here to Acers site, but originally it threw mw off because it was in German..lol Finally, I gave it one more chance, and found a little flag down at the bottom of the website to change the language... go figure... lol I downloaded and installed the correct drivers, and what do you know... instant success. Now, here's what you are not gonna believe. lol Right at the last moment, after running the tool, I had to hold the power button down for 5 seconds to get it out of apx mode. I have done this hundred's of times, especially while I was putting it into apx mode these past few days trying to fix it. Well, either way, I decided to boot right into recovery, which it did, but right at that moment, the power switch decides to break. No more click. Stuck in recovery, which actually I was overjoyed to see. But, I couldn't reboot or anything since the dam button decides to break, after all that crap I went through to resurrect it.. lol So, I then proceed to You Tube, learn how to crack this thing open with a guitar pick, inspect the power switch, which was barely hanging on. By the grace of God, I was able to click the button one last time to restart it..lol then the internal button decides to fall off.. lol. So, I am up and running Honey Comb, with a broken power button. I guess plugging it up to the charger should at least get it turned on for me. I am thinking of calling Acer back, and I guess modifying my repair ticket to a power button repair.. lol so, moral to the story? Get the dam right drivers so you don't have to put it into apx mode a thousand times. I think I just plain wore it out.. lol but I'm up and running. I just want to thank everyone involved in writing these programs, because I was basically sol. I hope you all find this humorous as well as educating.

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Wow... what a wild 48 hours... ok, it all started wed night. I came home from working the night shift, where I use my tablet in my truck instead of hauling around my laptop. I noticed it running like a hog so I rebooted it. It was rooted, unlocked, and all that jazz.. been through just about every rom ics and up. Never any real problems... until wed night. It got stuck on the Acer logo. Well, after much reading, and several tool downloads, for the life of me I couldn't get the thing to work. I was thinking it was a hard ware issue. I am expecting a pre paid label from Acer to send it in, even though it was out of warranty. I really had given up. I was using the tdv4 repair tool and it kept hanging a quarter way in. I noticed though, my pc wasn't communicating properly with the tab. I followed the link somewhere in here to Acers site, but originally it threw mw off because it was in German..lol Finally, I gave it one more chance, and found a little flag down at the bottom of the website to change the language... go figure... lol I downloaded and installed the correct drivers, and what do you know... instant success. Now, here's what you are not gonna believe. lol Right at the last moment, after running the tool, I had to hold the power button down for 5 seconds to get it out of apx mode. I have done this hundred's of times, especially while I was putting it into apx mode these past few days trying to fix it. Well, either way, I decided to boot right into recovery, which it did, but right at that moment, the power switch decides to break. No more click. Stuck in recovery, which actually I was overjoyed to see. But, I couldn't reboot or anything since the dam button decides to break, after all that crap I went through to resurrect it.. lol So, I then proceed to You Tube, learn how to crack this thing open with a guitar pick, inspect the power switch, which was barely hanging on. By the grace of God, I was able to click the button one last time to restart it..lol then the internal button decides to fall off.. lol. So, I am up and running Honey Comb, with a broken power button. I guess plugging it up to the charger should at least get it turned on for me. I am thinking of calling Acer back, and I guess modifying my repair ticket to a power button repair.. lol so, moral to the story? Get the dam right drivers so you don't have to put it into apx mode a thousand times. I think I just plain wore it out.. lol but I'm up and running. I just want to thank everyone involved in writing these programs, because I was basically sol. I hope you all find this humorous as well as educating.
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Well, you can repair the button/switch by opening up the tablet, but you knew that, refixing the button with a cable tie, glue/epoxy, crack out the soldering iron and actually soldering it in properly - probably do a better job than Acer.:good:

I don't know..I'm kinda glad to jusr have it back..no more flashing roms though. .unless I can get a touch recovery installed...
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droidxxxxx said:
I don't know..I'm kinda glad to jusr have it back..no more flashing roms though. .unless I can get a touch recovery installed...
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I had the same problem...So I tried to glue it and stuff....and then I tried to solder it but it short circuited. So I found an old and small mouse that I didn't use.....drilled a hole in my tablet...connected the button to the motherboard with some wires...and use that as a power button...lol.....I'm done with this tablet.....even my power button fell off.....Now I have to glue it back on.......

I took it apart, was kinda fun actually... And took the motherboard and power button to a tech shop. They soldered it back on for 50 bucks, hopefully correctly. I will pick it up Monday when I get back in town and reassemble it, maybe it'll work. I just didn't have the tools to do it correct, would a cost 50 bucks for a super small soldering iron most likely..lol..if that doesn't fix it, I guess I'll be getting a new tab. Thinking about an Asus transformer prime..
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Which isn't really new..but much more robust than the a500.
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Well, I got the motherboard back, with the resoldered power button and slapped it back in..and its fixed for 50 bucks. Working like a champ. I just need to flash an ICS bootloader and get back up to speed, I'm not too sure about HC..
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PIVOTAL CROSSROADS... Any help is better then no help.

I am a Nexus advocate and the same will most likely be true no matter which name or branding Google chooses to use... that is as long as they don't steer away from the customizability and the virtually impossibility of a software brick.
Anywho I am a owner of a 6p. I bought it in Feb. around Valentine's day. The reason this is revenant is because @ that time is when the gold nexus came out and was on sale. The only problem being was I didn't want the gold.. I wanted the aluminum one. I was able to remedy that easily enough. I ordered a new Rear housing via ali express which came with the glass and bottom plastic piece that covered the screws. I have repaired my Nexus 5 lcd probably 5 times. So I have some experience with mobile repair. When the back finally came in (like a month). I watched a quick tutorial of a tear down. When I was applying heat I used a little too much and ruined my camera. I was able to access the camera but it was very blurry to the point of not being able to make out what ever it was. So I ordered another camera via ali express again, waited a month, then attempted another repair. This time I had no issues with the heat gun or removing the rear housing. To replace the camera was not as easy as it would have been for the Nexus 5... there are several steps involved... one of which being too take out the battery... I cannot figure out for the life of me why Huawei would feel it necessary to apply a **** ton of adhesive on a battery that has little to no wiggle room but they did. While I was attempting the removal I ripped the poly bag and could instantly smell the lithium. Soooo I ended up ordering a new battery from China again. While I was waiting for it to come in the phone fell off of my bench and cracked the screen. I had no idea if the screen would work or not until the battery arrived so I could test. Well the battery came in finally I installed it with no issues. The phone is once again in one piece but unfortunately the screen does not work, but, I am not sure that it is only the screen not working. Is there anyway that I would be able to troubleshoot or verify that it is only the screen that isn't working? This is why I named the post pivotal moment... if it is only the screen and I can somehow verify it then ill purchase a screen... but if I order the screen, replace it, only to find out that it is not the screen where the problems reside and/or it is only one of many problems then I'll probably give up and lick my wounds.. So, in a nutshell, is there anyway to run a diagnostic or anything like it... At this point ANY help or suggestions are welcome.
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Well to me it sounds like you should be able to turn the phone on at least? Once it's on, give it maybe 5 solid minutes to boot just in case and try to operate it. If you see no response then try to call the phone. That would engage the screen, sound, and motor for the vibrate, if set... Go from there?

teh roxxorz said:
Well to me it sounds like you should be able to turn the phone on at least? Once it's on, give it maybe 5 solid minutes to boot just in case and try to operate it. If you see no response then try to call the phone. That would engage the screen, sound, and motor for the vibrate, if set... Go from there?
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I think my only option left is to take her out back and put her down.... she's going to the big farm in the sky...

i2andog said:
I think my only option left is to take her out back and put her down.... she's going to the big farm in the sky...
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Try holding down volume down + power for a couple seconds and plug it into a PC and see if it tries to load fastboot drivers.

one of my problems is that i cannot tell if the battery is charging or not... is there anyway to bypass charging port and put a direct charge to the battery so that I at least know that the battery will charge and/or hold the charge... That will also let me know if my charging port is working or not.

i2andog said:
one of my problems is that i cannot tell if the battery is charging or not... is there anyway to bypass charging port and put a direct charge to the battery so that I at least know that the battery will charge and/or hold the charge... That will also let me know if my charging port is working or not.
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How long have you had the phone plugged in to a charger?

After installation probably 4-6 hours.. That's the beauty about Liith-poly... The rules of NiCd and NiMh are obsolete and do not apply... unless you are using one of course. Anyways a couple hours here an there..

i2andog said:
After installation probably 4-6 hours.. That's the beauty about Liith-poly... The rules of NiCd and NiMh are obsolete and do not apply... unless you are using one of course. Anyways a couple hours here an there..
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Well you could still try, you'd feel it vibrate when it turned on.

teh roxxorz said:
Well you could still try, you'd feel it vibrate when it turned on.
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My apologies about the tardiness of my response.. I put it on the charger yesterday for a good 8 hours..
no matter how long i push the power button I receive no response from the phone..
I've tried this while having the phone connected via USB to the pc..
I've used a multimeter and it reads 3.7v which is right on par but I have no way to test under a load to confirm that it remains at that level.
I'm curious to know if there is a way to test without battery...

i2andog said:
My apologies about the tardiness of my response.. I put it on the charger yesterday for a good 8 hours..
no matter how long i push the power button I receive no response from the phone..
I've tried this while having the phone connected via USB to the pc..
I've used a multimeter and it reads 3.7v which is right on par but I have no way to test under a load to confirm that it remains at that level.
I'm curious to know if there is a way to test without battery...
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No worries, we all have lives.
And well, the only thing you could really do would be to remove the battery and then jump the terminals from an external supply.
It'd be the same as using a laptop with the battery removed and having it plugged into the wall still.