Hey all.
As you all know, the N1 has a design defect that eventually causes the power button to break down after prolonged use. It's a design issue related to wear and tear. No avoiding this one. Just how long.
Mine got lucky, lasted slightly more than a year. Couple of days back, it eventually caved in.
So now, I'm considering a few options and I'd like to get some feedback from anyone.
If you were in my shoes:
1) Would you repair?
Cost being approximately $100-120 USD. With the phone almost certain to be scratched as part of the repair process. And with that, being certain that the battery button will someday eventually break down again due to the design defect.
2) Get a new phone NOW?
Cost being approximately $575-600 USD. Probably get either a MT4G or Desire HD/ACE.
Pros being = better screen type for multitouch, more ram, more internal hd, bigger screen, better cpu, better gpu.
Cons being = bad screen tech (LCD = crap colors & battery vs amoled), slow ROM updates unless you run custom (which is do, running CM, but official drivers, etc aren't out till the official stuff moves forward as well.), uber bad battery life (though this is subjective, let's say - average 8-10 hours a day), no 2nd mic for noise suppression, no trackball.
3) Wait for dual cores to come out in the next 2-3 months and get one then.
Which means buying at potentially up market costs because the tech is considered new and supply will probably be less than demand.
Would like to hear some ideas from the community. =) Thanks br0s. And uh, sis'. Lol.
1.Repair
2.Root
3.Flash CM7
4.Sell on Swappa
5.Make money from the repair with some spare to put twards new phone.
6.Buy New Phone.
7.??????????????????
8. Profit!
ez
shanxybeast said:
1.Repair
2.Root
3.Flash CM7
4.Sell on Swappa
5.Make money from the repair with some spare to put twards new phone.
6.Buy New Phone.
7.??????????????????
8. Profit!
ez
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Already rooted. Already on CM. I live in Malaysia. No profit due to shipping costs. Lol.
Maybe you want to try local HTC support? Check the cost for the repair 1st before deciding.
I think repair.. u can trade in low yat plaza .. n1 is still rare in malaysia.. mine got n1 too.. but still lucky no power button issue..
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I sent it to Vodafone Spain technical service (it was still under warranty) and got it replaced by a brand new one.
To avoid a new power button failure, I'm using No-Lock widget and Lock Screen.
I repaired mine myself last week, $40 (aprox) part from eBay, 2 hours work tops and it now works perfectly. I did make some very small scratches in the antenne cover, but I can live with that. Don't regret it in the least, now I'm ready to wait for a dual-core "Google experience" phone...
Besides, once you have the phone open you can make sure the small button inside doesn't move around (glue or small piece of paper), as others have said that that helped in not having the problem again.
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Maybe you want to try local HTC support? Check the cost for the repair 1st before deciding.
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There' no support for Nexus One in Malaysia. I called HTC Malaysia already. They said I'd have to send it to Singapore.
are-red said:
I think repair.. u can trade in low yat plaza .. n1 is still rare in malaysia.. mine got n1 too.. but still lucky no power button issue..
Don't think trade in will give me much sadly. Repair will cost me RM350. Was thinking of picking up Desire HD at RM1750. *Sam tong.*
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I repaired mine myself last week, $40 (aprox) part from eBay, 2 hours work tops and it now works perfectly. I did make some very small scratches in the antenne cover, but I can live with that. Don't regret it in the least, now I'm ready to wait for a dual-core "Google experience" phone...
Besides, once you have the phone open you can make sure the small button inside doesn't move around (glue or small piece of paper), as others have said that that helped in not having the problem again.
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Yeah, I'm considering repairing it on my own. Do you have the process guide? I heard you have to disassemble nearly the entire thing just to replace that board. Was hoping to solder the flex cable if possible. Do share your thoughts, am very keen to hear more.
chowlala, the 3 options given are of different magnitude in terms of objective and cost. Don't get me wrong, I have an N1 with broken power button too.
For now, the best option is to install one of those "power button replacement" software such as AnyUnlock.
If you plan to ditch the N1 later, then wait for the dual core phone. Just buy the phone you like, don't worry so much about the price. And buy the phone online or from Singapore (if not commonly available in Malaysia) coz its definitely cheaper compared to places like Low Yat.
The above is what I will do
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chowlala, the 3 options given are of different magnitude in terms of objective and cost. Don't get me wrong, I have an N1 with broken power button too.
For now, the best option is to install one of those "power button replacement" software such as AnyUnlock.
If you plan to ditch the N1 later, then wait for the dual core phone. Just buy the phone you like, don't worry so much about the price. And buy the phone online or from Singapore (if not commonly available in Malaysia) coz its definitely cheaper compared to places like Low Yat.
The above is what I will do
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Agreed. Very true.
Everybody would love to save money obviously.
I can live with the broken power button. I believe it's only a matter of getting used to it. And I'm pretty alright with ADB and running mods on the phone. So updating, etc will still be fine. And I'm currently using the Lock Widget, with Sleep on the pull down notification bar and long press Home to sleep the phone as well. Lol.
Only concern now then would be, how to power up the phone when I'm not near a cable. Anyone got any ideas?
I would love to keep the n1 if I can figure this one out. As of this point, everything is still alright as long as I'm near a cable. But if the phone hangs when I'm not near a cable.
That's a problem. =(
You certainly can live without the power button (I did for over two months) but it is a pain every time you have to power it off/on. The problem became too bothersome for me when needing to fly and when needing to swap sim cards, and not always having a pc at hand.
In any case, the replacement process does need for the entire phone to be disassembled, but the guide at ifixit was detailed enough for me. I did try to solder or otherwise fix the cable before replacing it, but it was impossible (very small, short, flexible and, in my case, it was completely severed). To see the cable you don't need to dismantle the whole phone, just the battery cover and the screws behind it.
After changing the board, I used some cable coating to make sure the button sat firmly and that cable was under as little stress as possible. Lets hope this time it lasts more than 8 months.
Can someone explain what the method is to reinforce the power button (with pictures if possible)?
Also, does this apply to the volume buttons too? On one of my refurbs, the top volume button got unresponsive and was probably dying the same way these power buttons do.
EDIT: didn't see you post before I did. I wonder if it's possible to secure the power button and volume button boards in a way that prevents stress on the cables.
I've been "living" without a power button for more than 4 months now, using a combination of "no lock" and "lock 2.0" to turn the device on and off.
As for the reboot issue, i always have a usb cable at hand and a small portable usb/dc charger when there's no laptop around.
PS I'm on stock.
I don't know of there being a generally accepted way to reinforce the power button. If you search you'll find very different ideas and opinions.
I think that the problem is that the button in the board rests over a metallic support that is part of the structure of the phone. However, the button just rests there, and depending on how you press the power button on top it can move around stressing the cable in the process. After spending some time with the phone open, I think that any solution that fixes the button in its place (glue, paper, o cable coating like I used) should help in reducing cable stress and extending its life. In any case, I don't think any of these solutions are permanent and eventually the cable will break again.
As for the volumen buttons, I have not heard about problems with them as they are are much better supported and there is no movement, cable stress or anything in that part of the phone. If you are having problems with them, maybe it's just dust or something else that got into your phone?
I'm still using widgets and trackball wake (I'm in CM7, so...), just to extend the useful life of the button as much as possible.
elio said:
I've been "living" without a power button for more than 4 months now, using a combination of "no lock" and "lock 2.0" to turn the device on and off.
As for the reboot issue, i always have a usb cable at hand and a small portable usb/dc charger when there's no laptop around.
PS I'm on stock.
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Yeah, I've got trackball wake and lock widgets and stuff. But I can't be carrying around a usb cable and charger all the time. Lol. I have a set in my car though.
OJ in Compton said:
Can someone explain what the method is to reinforce the power button (with pictures if possible)?
Also, does this apply to the volume buttons too? On one of my refurbs, the top volume button got unresponsive and was probably dying the same way these power buttons do.
EDIT: didn't see you post before I did. I wonder if it's possible to secure the power button and volume button boards in a way that prevents stress on the cables.
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Your ribbons in the flex cable are probably fraying. That's what happened with mine. It slowly became more and more unresponsive until one point it just chucked out.
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You certainly can live without the power button (I did for over two months) but it is a pain every time you have to power it off/on. The problem became too bothersome for me when needing to fly and when needing to swap sim cards, and not always having a pc at hand.
In any case, the replacement process does need for the entire phone to be disassembled, but the guide at ifixit was detailed enough for me. I did try to solder or otherwise fix the cable before replacing it, but it was impossible (very small, short, flexible and, in my case, it was completely severed). To see the cable you don't need to dismantle the whole phone, just the battery cover and the screws behind it.
After changing the board, I used some cable coating to make sure the button sat firmly and that cable was under as little stress as possible. Lets hope this time it lasts more than 8 months.
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Hmm. Very interesting. I'm not keen on opening up the entire unit to fix the flex cable though. And I was at the repair shop when the guy told me the process, and I pulled back. I would go crazy if there was dust UNDER the screen. Hence why I would like to try soldering the cables first. Any idea on how to go about with that?
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Only concern now then would be, how to power up the phone when I'm not near a cable. Anyone got any ideas?
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One of those USB battery pack will do.
e.g. Sanyo Eneloop Mobile Booster
How to Manage a Nexus One with a broken Power Button
Here's how I manage my Nexus One to "PREVENT" the power button failure.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/08/manage-nexus-broken-power-button/
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One of those USB battery pack will do.
e.g. Sanyo Eneloop Mobile Booster
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Yeah, but like I said, would be difficult to carry around. I hate having stuff in my pockets. If only like some sdcard-eject-reinsert or SIM card thing could work. That would be perfect. But of course I'm probably asking for too much already. Haha.
zekers said:
Here's how I manage my Nexus One to "PREVENT" the power button failure.
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/09/08/manage-nexus-broken-power-button/
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Yeah, that's a really good write up. I read that the instant my power button broke and has helped me reorientate real quick. I highly recommend the article to those who are facing the same problem.
I actually just sent my nexus one in for repair (I'm in Singapore, just bring the phone to the center). I complained about my phone was just a few days out of warranty (3 days) though I had no receipt with me. They waived the shipping fee (S$53.50 since it's an import phone). Got the phone back a week later with a quote of S$41.50 (not bad at all). The only down size is that the technician somehow didn't plug the cable in all the way. Now I have random flash light when booting up the phone and when picking up the call. Might have to open it up to secure the connection or to send it in for repair again (I have 3 moths of warranty for this part anyhow)
Hope it can help. I had the button failure as well. At the time I send the phone in, MIUI was installed and I did not get any complain about that.
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I actually just sent my nexus one in for repair (I'm in Singapore, just bring the phone to the center). I complained about my phone was just a few days out of warranty (3 days) though I had no receipt with me. They waived the shipping fee (S$53.50 since it's an import phone). Got the phone back a week later with a quote of S$41.50 (not bad at all). The only down size is that the technician somehow didn't plug the cable in all the way. Now I have random flash light when booting up the phone and when picking up the call. Might have to open it up to secure the connection or to send it in for repair again (I have 3 moths of warranty for this part anyhow)
Hope it can help. I had the button failure as well. At the time I send the phone in, MIUI was installed and I did not get any complain about that.
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I would send it in if I was in Singapore. Not sure how they'd deal with someone from Malaysia though. Repairs + travel/postage would cost quite a bomb. Though I've seen the board part costing about 30 euros. And I would be quite mad if I was returned a phone that has a random flash of light. Lol.
I thought hardware warranty and software warranty were two different issues? Besides, it's a well documented fact that the Nexus One and Desire suffer the same problem... no?
Maybe I can call in and report the phone as a Desire for repairs. LOL.
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I've been using the HD for two months, and the volume keys beneath the cover appear to have their plastic falling apart, revealing the tiny electronic parts underneath.. anyone else encountered it?
cytokine said:
I've been using the HD for two months, and the volume keys beneath the cover appear to have their plastic falling apart, revealing the tiny electronic parts underneath.. anyone else encountered it?
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I'm also having the same problem. I been using my HD for around 7 months though. The volume down cover cracked and after awhile, the whole cover fell off. I wonder if this is a defect and will be covered by the warranty.
It's strange, but I find the button feels better without the cover. You get a sort of click when you press on it without the cover.
mine did the same after a week, Still works fine though!
Same here had the HD for 7 months, though I think mines related to using the stylus on the vol down button when entering bootloader mode.
Still works fine though.
Did anyone find out if this is warranty repairable? My volume down button came off after 4 months. I'm just concerned about the resale value!
I pay for Orange Care, so I think I can pay £15 for a replacement, but don't see why I should!
I´ve same issue with volume up button but also still working because there are some parts of it still there.
Don´t know if warranty is covering but I wanna know!
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Same here had the HD for 7 months, though I think mines related to using the stylus on the vol down button when entering bootloader mode.
Still works fine though.
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i second that.
my buttons rubber got demolished by using a fingernail for getting into the bootloader ...
My internal down volume button is also gone leaving the round brass contact exposed. Still works but yes horrible that it has happened.
Did any of you guys try warranty repair through HTC? The cover under mine has also cracked, which for me means it doesn't have that clunk positive feel and I'm just wondering what the process will be.
Thanks,
Jon
Same issue..
I never expected such an expensive HTC phone to have such basic build quality issues ..
Have placed a complaint with HTC support, trust they would be able to help.
Thanks...
ditto..
mine has also fallen off on the vol down button, no problem as it still works, but like it mentioned, would be worth checking out if its reparable under the warranty before it expires (do we get 1 year faulty parts?)
Well I phoned HTC today and their initial argument that if the button is broken due to usage then the warranty is not valid - Eh? I can't see how that's any kind of defence. Looks like they're trying to bypass the devices having to be of merchantable quality and/or fit for purpose.
They also had not heard of any other volume buttons breaking - whether that's true or not who knows.
I'm sending the phone in tomorrow, for an assessment so I'll update how it goes.
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I'm sending the phone in tomorrow, for an assessment so I'll update how it goes.
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Any news from HTC? The rubber on my volume up buttons has broken away. This looks like a design fault on behalf of HTC... We should get together to let them know they've got a problem...
My VolUp button also is failing but - the internal(the one under the back cover) is kinda soft and it has its middle pushed in... now my VolUp button is hard to press cuz the outer button (the plastic with back cover) pushed the internal in a bit!!! Since I listen to musid a lot with my Touch HD its a pain to always push the VolUp button!! glad that you have the onscreen buttons!!
oh and about the construction : my HD fell out of my hands today from about a meter high - landed on the floor which was full with little pieces of sand, and slided a bit!! now I have some nice little holes on the front cover on the right top (opposite to the Vol buttons) !! glad that my screen had a screen protector , otherwise my screen would be just f***ed up!! (when I picked up the phone the whole screen was with little pieces of sand - like sandpaper-- I just wiped them of plugged my headphones back in, and everything worked like it did before the fall)
I have the exact same problem. The plastic / rubber on my volume down key has disappeared leaving the microswitch exposed and the volume down not feeling as good. It still works though.
Well my initial call with HTC was very negative - saying that if it's damaged due to use then I'll have to pay. I sent it off to be assessed anyway, good news was that they sent it back repaired by return post. Couldn't have been more pleased.
Well worth sending off.
Jon
Both my Up & Down Volume Plastic is gone the Up Still Works but the Down the Little Brass thingie fell off :-( HTC wants $300 to fix!
what should i do?
Me too......
Just when I was about to sell my HD, (a new LEO is on its way) my down volume key began to fail. Exactly the same peeling off the internal microswitch.
Where did you get yours repaired?
Mine was bought free.(Spain)
Regards.
:-(
If your phones are out of warranty and want to do a self repair, here is the part (used) on Ebay (170408817615) for sale. I have looked high and low for months until I finally found it. The guy says he has 237 available.
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If your phones are out of warranty and want to do a self repair, here is the part (used) on Ebay (170408817615) for sale. I have looked high and low for months until I finally found it. The guy says he has 237 available.
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IMHO this reference shows an HD part not related to the volume keys.
Not to mention the price......
Regards.
Hey guys, I have had this phone since August of 2010 and personally its really nostalgic, in all reality I prefer it over my Galaxy S, Especially for the Slideout keyboard and seems to have better ROM support :/ But around November 2011 the screen would spaz out not respond and just not turn on. Sometimes it would but so dark it was nearly impossible to see it. I'm not sure if the screen is dead I haven't used it since November when I got my Galaxy S. If the screen is dead, is there any type of repair service? or a way to buy a top half for the screen and replace it?
Look on Ebay, there are lots of these phones for cheap.
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Sounds like a loose connection on the cable for the screen. I had the same problem with mine. I'm still using this phone now. Free fix if you can figure out how to take the phone apart & basically unplug & re-plug. Be super careful though! And of course it could be a different problem.
You can buy a new one very cheap in amazon or ebay i dont think it worth to repair
Not sure it's the right place to post this, I replaced the digitizer in my old MT3GS (cracked in my pocket), and ever since, Ive have the screen-spazzing issue as well - wasn't my first time replacing a screen, either. For me, the solution _every time_ has been hit the power button to lock the screen, hit it again to get back to what I was doing... Never had to totally power down to fix the spaz :\
If it'd interest you at all, I'd be willing to send you the phone, charger brick, (and the metal case if I can find the damn thing) for $50+ship - thats what I paid for the new digitizer... If you have better troubleshooting skills than I do, good on you, because I've torn this one down and put back together again at least 2 or 3 times since replacing the digitizer, and can't find a single loose connection - maybe you'll have better luck than me?
Thanks
L4T
I called a repair shop I found on craigslist and they mentioned it's more than likely the flex cable, not the lcd screen or glass digitizer. These phones' cables go through lots of wear due to the sliding mechanism. They gave me a 70 dollar estimate, so I just don't slide my phone out anymore to prevent the screen from spazzing out or blacking out for good (it happened to a friend of mine's MTS3g). I've also seen the cable for sale online on ebay or repairsuniverse but I'd rather wait for my full upgrade than invest in it AND risk not fixing it.
I really wanna use this phone again, the slide mechanism is so worn on it you can feel it its kinda tough to do its not springy like it was outta the box, also on ebay these phones still run close to 200 dollars, I would take it apart, as its out of warranty anyways, but I don't have the proper tools to do so, like the mini philips head and the tiny socket wrench. And I hear it is most likely the flex cable but as I said I can't access it.
Ok, guys
This is my second Iconia that got broken power button in 4 weeks!
First one was returned to the shop within a week (second hand shop with one month warranty) and replaced with another one which was working just fine till yesterday night when my kid pushed the power button (she is just 2 year old skinny girl) and the button got stuck and did not respond anymore.What can I say... too fragile .This button is supposed to be pushed about twenty or so times a day.I never had such experience before.All my portable devices are nice and sturdy and even if i drop them by accident I've never ever got anything more than a scratch.Even though I loved this tablet I would say that this is a weak design point.Too fragile for a device of that class and price tag.
More interesting is to see what Acer's answer would be.I have no proper purchase receipt to claim my 1 year warranty since the item is second hand (mint, but second hand) and if they say they will charge me for the repair I will definitely quit the Acer's camp
I'll get back after call to the tech support
Are you the HULK or related to his family?
This has been mentioned here on the forums several times and the issue boils down to the fact that they've used cheap adhesive to attach the power-button to the motherboard.
It is actually pretty easy to repair yourself, though, just remove all the previous adhesive -- be careful not to scratch anything on the motherboard --, possibly heat the thing a bit with hairdryer or whatever you have in handy, and apply new adhesive while applying pressure to the contacts so that it doesn't come loose again. Just make sure you're using adhesive that is non-conducting! This whole thing takes about 5-10 minutes.
Yeah anyone needing to clean perhaps some rubbing alcohol and a little brush, it evaporates quickly
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There is a tear down at just do a google search for..
acer iconia a500 tear down tech republic...
opened and fixed ! Instead trying to fix the ugly little thinky I intsalled a new button and connecti it with a plain wire.the mod took a while but I$m sure it will last forevr!!!
Oh, and Acer Japan were not so polite and said that because of my inproper use the button got lose.
They mentioned that the repair would be too costly because they need to change the motherboard...
and the estimte was about 400 USD .Cool isnt it ?The guy on the custmoer support line was perhaps a good guy ....without any technical sence and knowledge
opened and fixed ! Instead trying to fix the ugly little thinky I intsalled a new button and connecti it with a plain wire.the mod took a while but I$m sure it will last forevr!!!
Oh, and Acer Japan were not so polite and said that because of my inproper use the button got lose.
They mentioned that the repair would be too costly because they need to change the motherboard...
and the estimte was about 400 USD .Cool isnt it ?The guy on the custmoer support line was perhaps a good guy ....withowt any technical sence and knowledge
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Oh, and Acer Japan were not so polite and said that because of my inproper use the button got lose.
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Hah. As if, it's already documented and easy to prove that they didn't attach the button properly. It is not end-users' fault in any way or form.
They mentioned that the repair would be too costly because they need to change the motherboard...
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They were just trying to squirm out of the responsibility. They know perfectly well that replacing the button costs about 2€ (including taxes and postage!), it does not in any way or form require replacing the motherboard.
hummm did you get that 400.00 quite by email.. or was it a phone call.
Acer has a fixed 199.99 fee for all repairs on Laptop and tablet computers. The guy you talked to was misleading.. go to there website somewhere it tells about this.. I MYSELF Have called acer about getting a Gateway notebook main board replaces.. 199.99 . I FOUND the board on ebay for 70.00 and did it myself.
the support guy saying up front that you broken is IS VERY Not there way of doing business. They are always we dont know SEND IT IN We will then tell you.....
Call back and talk to another person and Complain ... about the other guy.
good luck
Could you possibly show how you did the repair job? I working on trying to install an external power button, and this would be quite helpful. The tablet is going in the dash of my car, and the power button wont be accessible anymore.
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Could you possibly show how you did the repair job? I working on trying to install an external power button, and this would be quite helpful. The tablet is going in the dash of my car, and the power button wont be accessible anymore.
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Sorry, I can't remember the thread where there was pictures of this. But really, it's not difficult. You just heat the old glue so that it comes off easily, you can even scratch it off with something sharp just as long as you're REALLY careful about not scratching the motherboard.
Buy or loan one of those tiny solders clocksmiths use, they're great for small electronics work and a heatgun. Oh, and I still remind once more, whatever glue you're going to use please do make sure it's non-conductive.
Alright, I'll see what I can figure out. I think I've found an alternative to this, so we'll see how it works out. Thank you though.
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WereCatf said:
This has been mentioned here on the forums several times and the issue boils down to the fact that they've used cheap adhesive to attach the power-button to the motherboard.
It is actually pretty easy to repair yourself, though, just remove all the previous adhesive -- be careful not to scratch anything on the motherboard --, possibly heat the thing a bit with hairdryer or whatever you have in handy, and apply new adhesive while applying pressure to the contacts so that it doesn't come loose again. Just make sure you're using adhesive that is non-conducting! This whole thing takes about 5-10 minutes.
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Hi, I was wondering if you could help me fix my tablet like you did yours. I have found LOTS of forums with ppl with this same problem and have tried to fix it myself. I don't know what to do. Some say to solder it back, some say hot glue, I can't even get the mother board all the way off b/c of the black tape/sd card/ whatever thing that's holding it attached right by the HDMI slot. My A500 has had a broken power button since July 2012. I used to plug it in or use a safety pin to reset and when it lit up I would unlock it and keep using it. That worked until the day I let it die completely. Now that it has died completely I Don't know another way to power it on besides using the power button. Could you post pics????
I am a Nexus advocate and the same will most likely be true no matter which name or branding Google chooses to use... that is as long as they don't steer away from the customizability and the virtually impossibility of a software brick.
Anywho I am a owner of a 6p. I bought it in Feb. around Valentine's day. The reason this is revenant is because @ that time is when the gold nexus came out and was on sale. The only problem being was I didn't want the gold.. I wanted the aluminum one. I was able to remedy that easily enough. I ordered a new Rear housing via ali express which came with the glass and bottom plastic piece that covered the screws. I have repaired my Nexus 5 lcd probably 5 times. So I have some experience with mobile repair. When the back finally came in (like a month). I watched a quick tutorial of a tear down. When I was applying heat I used a little too much and ruined my camera. I was able to access the camera but it was very blurry to the point of not being able to make out what ever it was. So I ordered another camera via ali express again, waited a month, then attempted another repair. This time I had no issues with the heat gun or removing the rear housing. To replace the camera was not as easy as it would have been for the Nexus 5... there are several steps involved... one of which being too take out the battery... I cannot figure out for the life of me why Huawei would feel it necessary to apply a **** ton of adhesive on a battery that has little to no wiggle room but they did. While I was attempting the removal I ripped the poly bag and could instantly smell the lithium. Soooo I ended up ordering a new battery from China again. While I was waiting for it to come in the phone fell off of my bench and cracked the screen. I had no idea if the screen would work or not until the battery arrived so I could test. Well the battery came in finally I installed it with no issues. The phone is once again in one piece but unfortunately the screen does not work, but, I am not sure that it is only the screen not working. Is there anyway that I would be able to troubleshoot or verify that it is only the screen that isn't working? This is why I named the post pivotal moment... if it is only the screen and I can somehow verify it then ill purchase a screen... but if I order the screen, replace it, only to find out that it is not the screen where the problems reside and/or it is only one of many problems then I'll probably give up and lick my wounds.. So, in a nutshell, is there anyway to run a diagnostic or anything like it... At this point ANY help or suggestions are welcome.
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Well to me it sounds like you should be able to turn the phone on at least? Once it's on, give it maybe 5 solid minutes to boot just in case and try to operate it. If you see no response then try to call the phone. That would engage the screen, sound, and motor for the vibrate, if set... Go from there?
teh roxxorz said:
Well to me it sounds like you should be able to turn the phone on at least? Once it's on, give it maybe 5 solid minutes to boot just in case and try to operate it. If you see no response then try to call the phone. That would engage the screen, sound, and motor for the vibrate, if set... Go from there?
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I think my only option left is to take her out back and put her down.... she's going to the big farm in the sky...
i2andog said:
I think my only option left is to take her out back and put her down.... she's going to the big farm in the sky...
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Try holding down volume down + power for a couple seconds and plug it into a PC and see if it tries to load fastboot drivers.
one of my problems is that i cannot tell if the battery is charging or not... is there anyway to bypass charging port and put a direct charge to the battery so that I at least know that the battery will charge and/or hold the charge... That will also let me know if my charging port is working or not.
i2andog said:
one of my problems is that i cannot tell if the battery is charging or not... is there anyway to bypass charging port and put a direct charge to the battery so that I at least know that the battery will charge and/or hold the charge... That will also let me know if my charging port is working or not.
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How long have you had the phone plugged in to a charger?
After installation probably 4-6 hours.. That's the beauty about Liith-poly... The rules of NiCd and NiMh are obsolete and do not apply... unless you are using one of course. Anyways a couple hours here an there..
i2andog said:
After installation probably 4-6 hours.. That's the beauty about Liith-poly... The rules of NiCd and NiMh are obsolete and do not apply... unless you are using one of course. Anyways a couple hours here an there..
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Well you could still try, you'd feel it vibrate when it turned on.
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Well you could still try, you'd feel it vibrate when it turned on.
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My apologies about the tardiness of my response.. I put it on the charger yesterday for a good 8 hours..
no matter how long i push the power button I receive no response from the phone..
I've tried this while having the phone connected via USB to the pc..
I've used a multimeter and it reads 3.7v which is right on par but I have no way to test under a load to confirm that it remains at that level.
I'm curious to know if there is a way to test without battery...
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My apologies about the tardiness of my response.. I put it on the charger yesterday for a good 8 hours..
no matter how long i push the power button I receive no response from the phone..
I've tried this while having the phone connected via USB to the pc..
I've used a multimeter and it reads 3.7v which is right on par but I have no way to test under a load to confirm that it remains at that level.
I'm curious to know if there is a way to test without battery...
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No worries, we all have lives.
And well, the only thing you could really do would be to remove the battery and then jump the terminals from an external supply.
It'd be the same as using a laptop with the battery removed and having it plugged into the wall still.
So something I noticed on my old note 4 is that the screen has a strip unresponsive to touch (pen works fine).
The thing that weirds me out is that when you reboot the phone, it works perfectly fine, but after being on for a few hours, the middle part of the screen just stops responding.
Rebooting revives the part of the screen, but not for long. Factory resetting it does nothing different and it's running completely stock firmware and software.
Any ideas as to what's causing this? I'm not sure if replacing the screen would help since it seems to work fine for the short duration that it does.
It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
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It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
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Either a blown display or mobo.
A trace, solder joint, micro weld or junction failed.
It's possible it could be a connector/ribbon cable failure in which case easily repairable.
Check the display/mobo ribbon connectors...
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It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
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I'm pretty sure it's not heat since you can turn it on, leave it on a table, idle without anything running, and it'll be completely room temp and the part of the screen stops responding.
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Either a blown display or mobo.
A trace, solder joint, micro weld or junction failed.
It's possible it could be a connector/ribbon cable failure in which case easily repairable.
Check the display/mobo ribbon connectors...
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I'll give them a look over, hopefully reseating connectors may help
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I'm pretty sure it's not heat since you can turn it on, leave it on a table, idle without anything running, and it'll be completely room temp and the part of the screen stops responding.
I'll give them a look over, hopefully reseating connectors may help
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Could be literally 100s of thousands of parts that could have failed; semiconductor junctions, resistors or caps.
Solder failures aren't uncommon either.
If you spare parts, use the process of elimination. If you really like that model having a few parts queens around is a plan.
Hopefully it's a connector contact... check all connections including grounds.
For $650 you can get a Note 10+ 512gb in excellent condition... don't got too nuts trying to fix it.
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Could be literally 100s of thousands of parts that could have failed; semiconductor junctions, resistors or caps.
Solder failures aren't uncommon either.
If you spare parts, use the process of elimination. If you really like that model having a few parts queens around is a plan.
Hopefully it's a connector contact... check all connections including grounds.
For $650 you can get a Note 10+ 512gb in excellent condition... don't got too nuts trying to fix it.
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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You're my hero... I am not good enough to mess with solders and digging that deep! Good Luck!
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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I gave you a top shelf example.
Lots S-10s etc.
There's no guarantee swamping out parts will fix anything. The devil is in the details.
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I gave you a top shelf example.
Lots S-10s etc.
There's no guarantee swamping out parts will fix anything. The devil is in the details.
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Fair enough
reseating things didn't help, may see if i can scrounge up an old parts phone or something
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Fair enough
reseating things didn't help, may see if i can scrounge up an old parts phone or something
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Sorry to hear that.
Some devices seem to defy being repaired.
45 years ago Tom Schall owned a TV repair shop. He was an excellent technician with a engineering degree in electronics.
He swapped out a trouble filled Magnavox chassis with a known good one for a customer after repairing the original one at least twice only to have another circuit fail.
After a month he did the swamp but continued to try and fix the original. He repaired completely different sections of it only to have another one fail, HV, tuner, horizontal output, audio, and more.
Never once did it survive a couple days of burn in, sometimes only hours. It got to be a running joke. Hundreds of test point checks, scoped it, testing isolated components pondering how it could be so cryptic to repair. At this point no one else would even touch it... but Tom persisted for at least 3 more years in his spare time.
If there's a heaven or hell I'm sure Tom's still tinkering with that chassis. RIP
They weren't called Magotboxes for nothing
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YellowSomething said:
So something I noticed on my old note 4 is that the screen has a strip unresponsive to touch (pen works fine).
The thing that weirds me out is that when you reboot the phone, it works perfectly fine, but after being on for a few hours, the middle part of the screen just stops responding.
Rebooting revives the part of the screen, but not for long. Factory resetting it does nothing different and it's running completely stock firmware and software.
Any ideas as to what's causing this? I'm not sure if replacing the screen would help since it seems to work fine for the short duration that it does.
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See if this works for you, it did for me after i thinking digitser was kerputt.
on Dialler, dial: *#2663#
if a menu comes up, choose the top left option to upgrade the fw for touchscreen, wait for complete, then hit home button and see if it works. Maybe best to try after your screen goes funny, it should fix straight away
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See if this works for you, it did for me after i thinking digitser was kerputt.
on Dialler, dial: *#2663#
if a menu comes up, choose the top left option to upgrade the fw for touchscreen, wait for complete, then hit home button and see if it works. Maybe best to try after your screen goes funny, it should fix straight away
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That worked at first, but I rebooted the phone and it seems to be doing it again. I tried to update the firmware again, and it's not working. Any advice? It worked fine for over a day without any issue after doing that at first, now it's back to doing it again.
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That worked at first, but I rebooted the phone and it seems to be doing it again. I tried to update the firmware again, and it's not working. Any advice? It worked fine for over a day without any issue after doing that at first, now it's back to doing it again.
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Sorry late reply, I didnt get a notification. It worked for me and I haven't had to do it again, it likely sounds like you have a hardware issue unfortunately.
Only other option maybe, is putting on a custom rom, which will instigate a full system wipe and a new fresh software install to a more modern Android version. Possibly may be worth a shot?
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Sorry late reply, I didnt get a notification. It worked for me and I haven't had to do it again, it likely sounds like you have a hardware issue unfortunately.
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Alright, update.
i tried again, and it fixed it, but a while later, it did it again. Since that seemed to fix it for a bit, i can't imagine it being solely a hardware problem.
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Only other option maybe, is putting on a custom rom, which will instigate a full system wipe and a new fresh software install to a more modern Android version. Possibly may be worth a shot?
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honestly, that's the plan as of right now. As much as I like the S-pen features on this, it'd be for the better if it fixes it.
Update, TWRP + new rom installed. Still does it.
With Refined Nougat N7FE, I'm able to open the screen firmware menu from the dialer and update like with the stock rom. It sometimes fixes it for a while, but ends up doing it again.