While playing around with my new Lumia 920, I noticed that the Kids' Corner exhibits a behavior that essentially defeats the entire purpose of it: if I have a lockscreen PIN set, that PIN is required to either unlock the phone, or access Kids' Corner. If I have no PIN, then no PIN is required on either side. The whole idea of KC, though, is that I could hand my phone to someone, who could swipe over and up to get into Kids' Corner, then have free access to a sandboxed area without the ability to unlock the phone. Having to give them the PIN to unlock the phone is rather silly...
I'm curious as to whether others have noticed this same behavior, and whether it varies by phone model/OS version.
I'm running an AT&T Lumia 920 with OS version 8.0.9903.10
bkaul said:
I'm running an AT&T Lumia 920 with OS version 8.0.9903.10
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Same phone, same OS version, and I don't have that problem. My PIN only applies to my user, not Kid's Corner (or Guest, as I've renamed it).
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Do you have your phone synced to an Exchange server and does it require you to set a PIN? I've been looking at a few WP8 handsets exhibiting this problem and they seem to be the ones connected via Exchange ActiveSync with security policies in place.
Same for me. I noticed it worked fine the first day I had the phone but trying it now, its asking for a pin. I am connected to exchange servers, but neither require a pin.
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Do you have your phone synced to an Exchange server and does it require you to set a PIN? I've been looking at a few WP8 handsets exhibiting this problem and they seem to be the ones connected via Exchange ActiveSync with security policies in place.
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No: I'm connected only to my Microsoft account and a Gmail account. No EAS policies are in play.
Are you sure it isn't a PIN setting in the Kid's Corner settings? It asks you if you want to use a PIN when you first set it up, and that's not available from the KC "Customize" tile.
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Are you sure it isn't a PIN setting in the Kid's Corner settings? It asks you if you want to use a PIN when you first set it up, and that's not available from the KC "Customize" tile.
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It never asked me that when I first set it up; never asks that if I disable/enable from settings. Regardless, it follows whatever the setting from the lockscreen is.
I'm actually beginning to wonder if this may just be a poorly thought out design decision. I've seen reports on other forums that people who report being able to get into KC without a PIN when they have a lockscreen PIN also have a timeout set, rather than having it apply instantly, and that there seems to be some odd behavior with the two sides resetting that timeout differently, but that eventually even they would have to enter a PIN either way. Have you (or anyone else who can get into KC w/o a PIN immediately after locking their phone) tested whether the same is true if the phone's been sitting around for a while without being used and you try to go directly to KC? I trust people here more on troubleshooting than reports from other forums, so curious if those claims of it just being that it hasn't timed out yet have any validity.
I know for a fact when I turned on my wife's KC on her 820 yesterday that it asked if she wanted to use a PIN. When I try to find the setting on my 920 I can't see it anywhere, even turning KC on and off. Perhaps it's a one time thing and you mistakingly said yes?
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The whole idea of KC, though, is that I could hand my phone to someone, who could swipe over and up to get into Kids' Corner, then have free access to a sandboxed area without the ability to unlock the phone. Having to give them the PIN to unlock the phone is rather silly...
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Kid's Corner is working as designed; your premise about it's purpose is what I think is wrong. (BTW, your idea is a fine one, but it's not the problem that Microsoft set out to solve with Kids Corner.)
On PIN-protected phones, unauthorized users aren't permitted to just jump into Kids Corner on their own. (Among other things, allowing that would let anyone drain your battery.) Instead, the use case that Microsoft wanted to address was giving parents a way to grant their children a game-playing session with the phone without letting the child have full access to the phone (i.e., trapping the kid in the sandbox). For security reasons, that granting is to be done by the parent keying in the PIN, not by the parent revealing the PIN to anyone else.
Assuming that your phone is set up to prompt for a PIN after 15 minutes of inactivity, if the kid puts down the phone for 2 minutes and picks it up again, the PIN isn't needed because the parent-approved game-playing session is still active. If the kids sets down the phone for 20 minutes, the kid will need get the parent to OK additional game play.
Other users have complained that phones with PINs always require the PIN after a Kids Corner session. (The argument being that you may have just unlocked the phone for your kid's use so why would you have to key the PIN in again.) I would argue that the current behavior is the only one that makes sense because the other way creates a path for a kid to get out of the sandbox by just tapping the power button twice. So, the PIN is needed after a Kids Corner session because the phone knows that it was just in the hands of a kid or guest (i.e., not the actual owner) and it needs to get the owner's OK before letting the user into the full feature set.
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I know for a fact when I turned on my wife's KC on her 820 yesterday that it asked if she wanted to use a PIN. When I try to find the setting on my 920 I can't see it anywhere, even turning KC on and off. Perhaps it's a one time thing and you mistakingly said yes?
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Nope, I'm quite certain it never prompted me.
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Kid's Corner is working as designed; your premise about it's purpose is what I think is wrong. (BTW, your idea is a fine one, but it's not the problem that Microsoft set out to solve with Kids Corner.)
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Yeah, I was beginning to think it was actually working as designed, just designed in a way that seems contrary to its stated purpose.
So, the PIN is needed after a Kids Corner session because the phone knows that it was just in the hands of a kid or guest (i.e., not the actual owner) and it needs to get the owner's OK before letting the user into the full feature set.
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OK, this is the part I was missing ... at least it will always require a PIN to get back out of KC into the rest of the phone, though it still seems counterintuitive that there aren't separate settings. The demos show Joe handing a phone to his kid, who swipes over and up to get in - but it's never made clear what the intended behavior is with a PIN enabled. I was (apparently incorrectly) assuming that it could be set up to allow use by kids as demoed where they can unlock and get into KC themselves without allowing them out of the sandbox. The behavior as you describe it makes sense though, at least as far as not being a bug, even if it seems incomplete to me.
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The demos show Joe handing a phone to his kid, who swipes over and up to get in - but it's never made clear what the intended behavior is with a PIN enabled. I was (apparently incorrectly) assuming that it could be set up to allow use by kids as demoed where they can unlock and get into KC themselves without allowing them out of the sandbox.
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I think that in the demo, Joe didn't unlock the phone for his kids because he had just used it for another task and it hadn't yet relocked. I agree with you that at first glance Kids Corner seems odd. When I thought about it more, I realized that it's designed more to provide protection to the adult than it is to provide entertainment to kids.
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I am looking for a reverse thing to a sim-lock. I have a phone, which I would like to make sure of, that no other card can be used in it as mine- or a card that has the same pin as mine. I thought about a phone-lock for the sim-card. Once the cell is turned on, the cell enters the pin code without being noticed by me. I keep forgetting this damn number anyway. However, I don't want to miss the capability of the card being rpotected by its pin number, either when put in a different phone, or the functionality, that if someone wants to steal my phone, that it enters the preset pin number, therefore bricks the sim-card.
Basically this is what I want:
1. The phone enters a preset pin, without me or anyone else seeing it.
2. If another sim-card is installed, the card shall be bricked because the phone tries to enter the preset pin.
And last but not least: If someone has a sim-card that has no pin that is put into the phone, is it possible to deny the service the sim-card offers?
WaveSecure seems to do pretty much what you want.
Effectively it can lock out the phone and stop other SIM cards being used.
It was free to begin with, but I think it has now been sold to one of the big companies and may be chargeable.
WaveSecure is cool but!
I think that WaveSecure does part of the job, but the most imprtant one, is entering the pin number automatically. This however is not supported by WaveSecure.
Maybe there is another app anyone can think of.
Meanwhile I am rowsing git, maybe I find ssomething in there!
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I think that WaveSecure does part of the job, but the most imprtant one, is entering the pin number automatically. This however is not supported by WaveSecure.
Maybe there is another app anyone can think of.
Meanwhile I am rowsing git, maybe I find ssomething in there!
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doesnt entering the pin number automatically defeat the point of having a pin?? If someone steals your phone, they wont need your PIN to unlock it??
Yes and no!
Assuming that I want the card only to work without hesitation with this particular cell, then I need the cell to enter the pin automatically, and when put into another cell, it the pin dialog ifres up, since the pin request is still in effect. I am not concerned about someone stealing the phone, it is insured against stealing. And assuming someone would use the phone with his own sim, without resetting the phone/ putting a different firmware on it: the phone would try to enter the preset pin, thereby bricking the card.
Anyway, the phone has been tempered with, in a way, that the cell can only call numbers which are for free for me, according to my cell-plan.
So having the pin still in effect is basically a precaution against taking the card out and set it in a different phone.
okay. i decided to buy the A500 tonight. after reading all the threads, it sounds like a good purchase. but when i looked at the demo they had on the showroom floor, it had a password on it.
i don't plan on putting a password on it. i just want it next to my bed and not have to worry about it. what i'm worried about is someone (like a friend) putting a password on it. the reason i ask this is because when i was looking at the demo model tonight, no one knew what the password was...so i "soft" reset it via metal wire into the reset hole AND also by holding up on the volume rocker. but in either case, it didn't do anything except for pop up the Android guy with an exclamation symbol. when it rebooted, it was at the password lock screen again. nothing changed.
after looking here for related threads, it says that if you don't know the password, then you're in deep kaka doodie (it has to be sent back to Acer).
i don't know how many of you still remember what CMOS is, but in order to set a boot password, you have to know the master password (which you need to know in order to make any CMOS changes to begin with. such as enabling the boot password option). that way the person who built the computer will be the first and only person to set the master password, preventing his/her jerk friends from pulling a prank by preventing him/her from booting their computer.
so my question is: is there a "master" password required to set the lock screen password?
my phone has a password/pattern. the reason i have it is because i leave my phone at my desk at work or on the coffee table at my friends. and i don't want them looking at my stuff. but the tablet is gonna be in my room and i don't have to worry about anyone looking at it or stealing it except for myself.
another question: will the custom roms bypass this password feature?
thanks for reading this far. sorry if i'm asking stupid questions, but i guess after the frustration at the store tonight with the demo model, i'm a bit annoyed. i never got to actually use the device and i still bought it anyways on the grounds that i would be happy with it (that sounds dumb now that i think about it). heck...its still sealed in its box & sitting on my bed as i'm typing this. but the password feature really sounds like a danger.
EDIT: the reason i'm asking this right now is because i JUST opened the box and am now charging it (for at least the recommended four hours), but i'll be asleep in a couple. so i won't find out til morning. but i'm hoping an XDA boarder can fill me in before i catch some Zzzs.
As far for a master password I've no idea if there's one...
Regarding installing new Roms, yes it will reset the password. I don't know if it's because the CWM wipe and factory reset but it will clean any password you have set.
You can use the tablet without any password. It's very easy to set it up under adjustements/security.
And I do agree with you that having a demo pc/tablet/phone is the most idiotic idea of marketing or sales strategy I can think off.
I've got my Iconia for 5 weeks now, gone trought a few roms, got back to stock but in the middle I've learned the "how to..." At the end I'm so happy with this tablet and how flexible is that I'm recommending it to all my friends.
Hope that helped.
Cheers,
very helpful. thank, mate. cheers!
just for your info, the ICONIA A500 is delivered without any obligation of using any passwords of any kind. In the showroom they have encrypted the tablet to protect it it from any unauthorized use.
In fact only if you want to whether protect your tablets content to be visible if ever it is stolen, or if you want to use enterprise (exchange activesync push) email capabilities, you have to encrypt your device, which then will oblige you to enter a master password during startup and a PIN password to exit sleep state.
So of corse no password protection except if you want it.
I don't know if anyone is going to believe this. I decided to test Android Device Manager's lock feature. Worked fine on my tablet. Did not work right on my phone. Now I am locked out of my phone. It would not accept the PIN I selected. I tried sending different PINs and it won't accept any of them! When I change the "message," it does change but the PIN doesn't work.
1) Is there any way to fix this???
2) If not, ugh, if I send an ERASE command, will I be able to get back into the phone?
Help!!
Thanks!
Paul
(I don't know how to prove this isn't a stolen phone - I have full access to it via Device Manager in my google account)
Talked to AT&T. I was screwed. FYI for anyone else... The Android Device Manager Lock may not work right on the AT&T Galaxy S4.
The entire point of locking a phone through ADM is to render it useless for anyone that has stolen it or "found and tried to use it" if it was lost. It's not intended as a tool to be used day to day or for any other reason than loss or theft. As such, I don't see why there would be a need to re-activate the phone after locking it through ADM.
However, if it simply won't let you unlock the lock screen, why not use ODIN to re-flash the firmware and start fresh with an unlocked lock screen?
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The entire point of locking a phone through ADM is to render it useless for anyone that has stolen it or "found and tried to use it" if it was lost.
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I should have posted more details. Actually, you can factory reset the phone and it comes out of it fine, albeit factory reset. It doesn't make the phone useless. It just protects the data on your phone with the standard PIN lock screen. It's certainly no kill switch.
To add more info to this - it literally changes the lock screen setting to PIN lock. So, for example, on my tablet, I had a pattern lock. Even after I unlocked it with the ADM PIN I sent, the next time it locked, it was the same PIN lock. I had to go back and change it to the pattern lock.
This is unlike the 3rd party solutions I have used in the past (e.g. Lookout, AVG) which overlay their own lock onto the phone one time only. Once you unlock through their PIN system, the device reverts to whatever locking method you had been using (or none).
This is just what I learned from the experience. Maybe people knew this but it was interesting to me.
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I should have posted more details. Actually, you can factory reset the phone and it comes out of it fine, albeit factory reset. It doesn't make the phone useless. It just protects the data on your phone with the standard PIN lock screen. It's certainly no kill switch.
To add more info to this - it literally changes the lock screen setting to PIN lock. So, for example, on my tablet, I had a pattern lock. Even after I unlocked it with the ADM PIN I sent, the next time it locked, it was the same PIN lock. I had to go back and change it to the pattern lock.
This is unlike the 3rd party solutions I have used in the past (e.g. Lookout, AVG) which overlay their own lock onto the phone one time only. Once you unlock through their PIN system, the device reverts to whatever locking method you had been using (or none).
This is just what I learned from the experience. Maybe people knew this but it was interesting to me.
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Thanks for the additional info. It's nice to know how it works or is supposed to work. Starting mid-2014, all cell phones sold in the US will be required to have a "kill switch" available. I wonder if it will operate in the same way. I guess time will tell. Again, thanks for the info.
I do wish people who don't read a persons message properly and are not informed on the subject wouldn't waste every ones time posting their drivel aye Scott!
You like so many others state the obvious, I did like your post Paul and thank you for taking the time to post
I have had issues with ADM and have found the application about as useful as Scott's drivel
I've had my phone stolen more times than I'd like. Given the fact that I've had my phone stolen this many number of times may suggest to some that I'm careless. Well, that would be a correct assumption to make. However, I don't equate being careless with deserving to have my phone stolen by some low lying piece of koopa. Anyway, the last one was a Moto G and the thing that pissed me off was the fact that the device had achieved an equilibrium in all areas that are important; the right balance of applications, just the right battery time etc. It knew me and I knew it. We were familiar to each other and then it was ripped from my clawing hands, never to return again. At that very moment, I made a decision that never will I let another phone be stolen again (iA). So I decided to make my phone theft-proof, not theft-resistant but theft-proof. The phone in question is the Moto X.
This is how I did it. First you need the following:
- A handset whose battery cannot be removed (at least very easily like the Moto G/Nexus 5/Moto X)
- Root
- Xposed Framework
- Xposed Framework Gravitybox module
- Anti-theft app (the one that I use is cerberus https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en)
- Bringrr or any other bluetooth perimeter based tracker (optional but recommended)
It's a fairly straight forward procedure. I'll lay it out in steps.
Step 1:
- Buy a phone whose battery cannot be removed
Step 2:
- Root the phone
Step 3:
- Set a pattern or number lock on your phone.
Step 4:
- Install XposedFramework
Step 5:
- Download and install Gravitybox module from within the Xposedframework
Step 6:
Go into the Gravityox module from the app drawer, then go into "Power Tweaks" and then check the "Disable power menu on lockscreen" option. This ensures that when your phone is locked (assumption is that you keep your phone locked or secured), nobody can turn it off or lower the volume. This is crucial when it comes to theft. Usually when a thief steals a phone, the first thing he does is he turns it off or removes the battery or reduces the volume to zero, but if he can't do any of these then the thief has a tracker in his hands and he's in deep ****za.
Step 7:
- Install an anti-theft app. I recommend cerberus. It's very versatile and wholesome. I really like the fact that you can actually make it into a system app which means that even if the thief were to somehow turn off the phone and then turn it on again and crack your pass code or pattern lock and factory reset the phone from the settings, the cerberus app will still be there doing it's job of tracking your phone.
There's only one way of getting around this as far as I can tell but I don't think I'm going to tell you how. That would defeat the purpose of this little guide
Step 8:
- Get a bluetooth location trackr. I like bringrr. It seems to get better reviews than the others one floating out there. It's a bluetooth device that plugs into your car's cig lighter socket and connects to your phone's bluetooth. If you leave your phone in a cafe and come back to the car, the bringrr will warn you or alert you that your phone isn't with you. It also has small little tags which you can put in your wallet and then your wallet and your phone and your car, all can communicate with each other. So, it's a nice preventive measure.
Even if you disable the power menu you can just hold down the power button until it turns off.
True....but that's not true if you havent confirmed it yet.
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also if they have a pin they can eject the sim
than hold power til it shuts down
hold down and power get to recovery and wipe the phone
after that if they are really good change the imei and bam
cant track or black list it
i know imei is hard to change but i know it can be done
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also if they have a pin they can eject the sim
than hold power til it shuts down
hold down and power get to recovery and wipe the phone
after that if they are really good change the imei and bam
cant track or black list it
i know imei is hard to change but i know it can be done
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holding down the power button does turn it off but you gotta keep your finger there for a while. and I'm betting that an opportunistic thief really won't have his wits about him to figure out why the power menu isn't showing up and might freak.
and yes! these are the two flaw in this plan, the removal of the sim. however, if they insert another sim into the phone, cerberus sends a message to the designated numbers. also, imei changing IS hard and can't be done on the fly so there's a window of opportunity between the theft of the phone and the subsequent IMEI change (if there is one) to trace and recover it.
Also wiping the phone won't remove cerberus. you'll have to flash a new rom to get rid of it. so they can change the imei and whatnot but you'll still be able to trace it once they've booted it back up.
however, it'll give you and your phone a fighting chance
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holding down the power button does turn it off but you gotta keep your finger there for a while. and I'm betting that an opportunistic thief really won't have his wits about him to figure out why the power menu isn't showing up and might freak.
and yes! these are the two flaw in this plan, the removal of the sim. however, if they insert another sim into the phone, cerberus sends a message to the designated numbers. also, imei changing IS hard and can't be done on the fly so there's a window of opportunity between the theft of the phone and the subsequent IMEI change (if there is one) to trace and recover it.
Also wiping the phone won't remove cerberus. you'll have to flash a new rom to get rid of it. so they can change the imei and whatnot but you'll still be able to trace it once they've booted it back up.
however, it'll give you and your phone a fighting chance
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i agree with you i was just throwing those out there cause there are people like us that use their power for evil lol
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I've had my phone stolen more times than I'd like. Given the fact that I've had my phone stolen this many number of times may suggest to some that I'm careless. Well, that would be a correct assumption to make. However, I don't equate being careless with deserving to have my phone stolen by some low lying piece of koopa. Anyway, the last one was a Moto G and the thing that pissed me off was the fact that the device had achieved an equilibrium in all areas that are important; the right balance of applications, just the right battery time etc. It knew me and I knew it. We were familiar to each other and then it was ripped from my clawing hands, never to return again. At that very moment, I made a decision that never will I let another phone be stolen again (iA). So I decided to make my phone theft-proof, not theft-resistant but theft-proof. The phone in question is the Moto X.
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Just out of curiosity how many phones have been stolen from you? And how were they stolen? Maybe there's something that you change to not get your phone stolen.
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Just out of curiosity how many phones have been stolen from you? And how were they stolen? Maybe there's something that you change to not get your phone stolen.
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Well the first phone was Iphone. The very first Iphone. It was stolen from my car while I was sitting in it. Happens a lot where I am; Pakistan. I was waiting for the light to turn green at a signal when this guy showed up on the passenger side door, and in what seemed like a flash, opened the door (which unfortunately was not locked), snatched the phone (which was lying on the passenger seat), ran around the car and on to the other side of the road where there was a guy on a bike (who I had not noticed before) revving it. The thief got on to the bike and they were gone. I had in the meanwhile only gotten out of the car and managed to shout out an expletive but it was too late by then. The phone was gone.
Ever since, I keep my car doors locked at all times.
The 2nd phone was also stolen from my car while it was parked in my garage. Probably the driver. It was a Nokia.
The 3rd phone was the Moto G. Went to this cafe to get some ice cream for wife and kid. Rush hour traffic in the cafe. Some seedy types were at the counter as well and I was wearing baggy clothes and got pick pocketed. Didn't feel nothing. Last known location of the phone was the cafe according to Life360.
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Well the first phone was Iphone. The very first Iphone. It was stolen from my car while I was sitting in it. Happens a lot where I am; Pakistan. I was waiting for the light to turn green at a signal when this guy showed up on the passenger side door, and in what seemed like a flash, opened the door (which unfortunately was not locked), snatched the phone (which was lying on the passenger seat), ran around the car and on to the other side of the road where there was a guy on a bike (who I had not noticed before) revving it. The thief got on to the bike and they were gone. I had in the meanwhile only gotten out of the car and managed to shout out an expletive but it was too late by then. The phone was gone.
Ever since, I keep my car doors locked at all times.
The 2nd phone was also stolen from my car while it was parked in my garage. Probably the driver. It was a Nokia.
The 3rd phone was the Moto G. Went to this cafe to get some ice cream for wife and kid. Rush hour traffic in the cafe. Some seedy types were at the counter as well and I was wearing baggy clothes and got pick pocketed. Didn't feel nothing. Last known location of the phone was the cafe according to Life360.
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1. Sucks that people just walk up to cars and steal while you're in the car. But like you said windows and doors locked will help.
2. Sucks that people steal. But assholes work everywhere. But never leave your personal property unattended.
3. Keep your wallet and phone in front pockets its harder to pick pocket. Or wear pants that are not too baggy so that pick pockets cant easily get their hands in.
I'm not sure how crime is in Pakistan but it sounds worse than here in the states. But even if you can track someone, remember its not worth getting seriously hurt or worse over property.
I guess I'd add that another step no matter what theft prevention you have, is to make a backup. Once you find that great balance of perfect apps and configurations, take screen shots of your app drawer at the very least so you know what apps you had installed. Take screenshots of your home screen so you know what icons you had where for that instinctive muscle memory of unlocking and tapping email in the lower right without really looking or thinking about it.
I've never had a phone stolen, but I've bricked and wiped enough times to know that backups are important even if your phone doesn't get stolen.
carry AK47 in front seat of car, problem solved!
Turn in android device manager with location reporting. It will track your phone down for you.
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I guess I'd add that another step no matter what theft prevention you have, is to make a backup. Once you find that great balance of perfect apps and configurations, take screen shots of your app drawer at the very least so you know what apps you had installed. Take screenshots of your home screen so you know what icons you had where for that instinctive muscle memory of unlocking and tapping email in the lower right without really looking or thinking about it.
I've never had a phone stolen, but I've bricked and wiped enough times to know that backups are important even if your phone doesn't get stolen.
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yea, but it's such painstaking work man. gonna do that today.
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1. Sucks that people just walk up to cars and steal while you're in the car. But like you said windows and doors locked will help.
2. Sucks that people steal. But assholes work everywhere. But never leave your personal property unattended.
3. Keep your wallet and phone in front pockets its harder to pick pocket. Or wear pants that are not too baggy so that pick pockets cant easily get their hands in.
I'm not sure how crime is in Pakistan but it sounds worse than here in the states. But even if you can track someone, remember its not worth getting seriously hurt or worse over property.
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Well, all I know about crime in the States is what I see in tv shows, but yea, it's everywhere. crime and criminals that is.
I prefer keeping my phone by my side at all times....to battery sucking theft solutions.
But to each their own!!
Good info here for sure! ?
In my opinion it's better to leave the phone without a pin because, if i were an average theft who doesn't know that much about phones, I'd just remove the accounts, the Sim card and apps. Maybe I would do a factory reset and with that I'd be happy so cerberus would survive.
Also I'd recommend you to hide cerberus from the drawer and make it only available from the dialer.
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Does holding the power button for 8 seconds still turn off the device with the gravity box module disabling power? if someone could force the phone off then turning it off from the lock screen is the least of their worries.
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Does holding the power button for 8 seconds still turn off the device with the gravity box module disabling power? if someone could force the phone off then turning it off from the lock screen is the least of their worries.
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I thought that just rebooted, similar to holding POWER and VOL DOWN for a while to simulate a battery pull on Moto devices.
Hi all - I imagine this has been asked a thousand times before, but I am new here and in need of some real help.
My brother recently passed away, and his phone (Huwei P Smart 2019) mysteriously went into Airplane Mode, and has no sim card. The lock screen is on and none of the 'usual' numbers or patterns he used appear to work. This phone was his lifeline before he died, using it to speak to doctors and care workers - which is why I do not think he set it to airplane mode himself.
Shortly after he died a 'friend' went to his house to 'secure valuable belongings' and he had my blessing to do so. When I managed to get there, and secure those belongings myself, lo and behold the phone was locked.
Apparently, it does this when it powers up after the battery drains. Apparently, (according to the 'friend') on a reboot it shows a lock screen... and somehow goes into airplane mode. All I know is his two other older android phones do not have passcodes and all are open and accessible after a reboot - I've already been able to check these for data easily enough. I cannot even see what version of the OS is installed, but I'd guess it is the default that the phone came with.
I am not an Android user, and am certainly not a 'power' user of any device, so I don't know if what the 'friend' is telling me is total BS or not. What I do know is there is likely to be some essential information stored on that phone, let alone photos and memories that his family would like - I am specifically looking for any details of his medical treatments and messages he might have received just before he died.
I've trawled around countless 'phone repair' booths in countless malls, and everyone tells me the same thing - it can be opened, but you have to wipe the phone. Obviously, I don't think that'll help as a) I don't want to reuse the phone and b) I need the data from it to help with an ongoing case.
So, the question is, can it be done... and if so, how?
Thanks in advance to all who reply.
Not sure if I believe the story.
Probably with testpoint, with unlocktool, with chimera, with EFT dongle.
I've tried some methods the testpoint methods I tried all erase the data.
All other working methods are on youtube search for huawei frp without data loss and similar search strings, and click on Related videos.
Don't connect the Android to Internet to avoid security update.
Try the method with sim card with PIN however that may need a previous version security.
If there is important data wait some time and check youtube again however there are fake videos on there.
If it's too important probably someone can attack it through some method.
However if you have no good reason to attack this device better move on I do not believe the story with deceased relative and whatever is on the device maybe it's water under the bridge move forward. If not then it is a high cost in your time effort money patience better invested elsewhere.
Whatever the case not judging