okay. i decided to buy the A500 tonight. after reading all the threads, it sounds like a good purchase. but when i looked at the demo they had on the showroom floor, it had a password on it.
i don't plan on putting a password on it. i just want it next to my bed and not have to worry about it. what i'm worried about is someone (like a friend) putting a password on it. the reason i ask this is because when i was looking at the demo model tonight, no one knew what the password was...so i "soft" reset it via metal wire into the reset hole AND also by holding up on the volume rocker. but in either case, it didn't do anything except for pop up the Android guy with an exclamation symbol. when it rebooted, it was at the password lock screen again. nothing changed.
after looking here for related threads, it says that if you don't know the password, then you're in deep kaka doodie (it has to be sent back to Acer).
i don't know how many of you still remember what CMOS is, but in order to set a boot password, you have to know the master password (which you need to know in order to make any CMOS changes to begin with. such as enabling the boot password option). that way the person who built the computer will be the first and only person to set the master password, preventing his/her jerk friends from pulling a prank by preventing him/her from booting their computer.
so my question is: is there a "master" password required to set the lock screen password?
my phone has a password/pattern. the reason i have it is because i leave my phone at my desk at work or on the coffee table at my friends. and i don't want them looking at my stuff. but the tablet is gonna be in my room and i don't have to worry about anyone looking at it or stealing it except for myself.
another question: will the custom roms bypass this password feature?
thanks for reading this far. sorry if i'm asking stupid questions, but i guess after the frustration at the store tonight with the demo model, i'm a bit annoyed. i never got to actually use the device and i still bought it anyways on the grounds that i would be happy with it (that sounds dumb now that i think about it). heck...its still sealed in its box & sitting on my bed as i'm typing this. but the password feature really sounds like a danger.
EDIT: the reason i'm asking this right now is because i JUST opened the box and am now charging it (for at least the recommended four hours), but i'll be asleep in a couple. so i won't find out til morning. but i'm hoping an XDA boarder can fill me in before i catch some Zzzs.
As far for a master password I've no idea if there's one...
Regarding installing new Roms, yes it will reset the password. I don't know if it's because the CWM wipe and factory reset but it will clean any password you have set.
You can use the tablet without any password. It's very easy to set it up under adjustements/security.
And I do agree with you that having a demo pc/tablet/phone is the most idiotic idea of marketing or sales strategy I can think off.
I've got my Iconia for 5 weeks now, gone trought a few roms, got back to stock but in the middle I've learned the "how to..." At the end I'm so happy with this tablet and how flexible is that I'm recommending it to all my friends.
Hope that helped.
Cheers,
very helpful. thank, mate. cheers!
just for your info, the ICONIA A500 is delivered without any obligation of using any passwords of any kind. In the showroom they have encrypted the tablet to protect it it from any unauthorized use.
In fact only if you want to whether protect your tablets content to be visible if ever it is stolen, or if you want to use enterprise (exchange activesync push) email capabilities, you have to encrypt your device, which then will oblige you to enter a master password during startup and a PIN password to exit sleep state.
So of corse no password protection except if you want it.
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So im sure most of you will say to stop being a noob n do a search. So ill begin by stating i have tried google and various forums with no success.
My problem is that i relapsed on xanax this weekend and on my way to the detox center my genius self decided to put a pin lock on my phone. Yes, go ahead and start the bashing on how i deserve it for being a pill popper. I went almost a year clean and **** happens so please just bare with me. anyways back to my problem(cell phone) so on my way to detox i put the pin. i get out today and to my surprise(sarcasm) i cant remember the PIN. I am currently rooted so i have some hope that i may be able to save my current data. There are alot of txt msgs i need and cant get to due to this problem. Its vital to my employment which i have to return to at 1pm pst. I'm lucky to be alive let alone still have my job so im looking for some help. Can anyone please help me???
If this is even remotely true, I can honestly say you will get zero help on this forum relating to a pin to unlock a phone. I have seen one of these threads a while ago and it didn't go well.
There is no way to bypass the pin, that's the whole point of a pin, so nobody else can access your phone.
If you are rooted though, you can just boot into recovery and flash a previous nandroid backup.
Congrats, you are rooted! problem solved.
Boot into recovery, copy contents of SD or whatever to whatever or wherever and your golden. Thank god you are rooted and welcome to the forum!
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Now take the cell to the store and tell the man (or woman) you found a cell or grabbed it out of a window that just happened to be opened, hand it to them and they will say thanks and you walk out feeling just a tad bit happier.
Peace!
Just take "your" phone to your carrier and tell them your story. If you can validate that it's your phone they should be able to wipe it for you.
If you get the pin wrong enough times, it should ask you for your Google login information. If it is indeed your phone, you should know that information. If not, you should be able to reset your password.
I'm going to assume your story is true, and if it is, **** happens. It took me multiple detox centers, 28 day programs, intensive outpatient and quite a few relapses before I got clean on my own a little over two years ago. Different drug of choice, but same exact bs.
If your story isn't true, turn the phone into a Sprint store. They'll be able to get it to the right person.
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There is really no way to get back into your phone that I know of, other than wiping your user data. The pin cannot be reset, but can only be erased with the rest of your data.
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If you input the wrong PIN enough times, it will ask you to put in your Google account information
There is a adb command u can put in to wipe ur pin number out. Don't have it on hand but if u Google adb commands u might be able to find it
While playing around with my new Lumia 920, I noticed that the Kids' Corner exhibits a behavior that essentially defeats the entire purpose of it: if I have a lockscreen PIN set, that PIN is required to either unlock the phone, or access Kids' Corner. If I have no PIN, then no PIN is required on either side. The whole idea of KC, though, is that I could hand my phone to someone, who could swipe over and up to get into Kids' Corner, then have free access to a sandboxed area without the ability to unlock the phone. Having to give them the PIN to unlock the phone is rather silly...
I'm curious as to whether others have noticed this same behavior, and whether it varies by phone model/OS version.
I'm running an AT&T Lumia 920 with OS version 8.0.9903.10
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I'm running an AT&T Lumia 920 with OS version 8.0.9903.10
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Same phone, same OS version, and I don't have that problem. My PIN only applies to my user, not Kid's Corner (or Guest, as I've renamed it).
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Do you have your phone synced to an Exchange server and does it require you to set a PIN? I've been looking at a few WP8 handsets exhibiting this problem and they seem to be the ones connected via Exchange ActiveSync with security policies in place.
Same for me. I noticed it worked fine the first day I had the phone but trying it now, its asking for a pin. I am connected to exchange servers, but neither require a pin.
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Do you have your phone synced to an Exchange server and does it require you to set a PIN? I've been looking at a few WP8 handsets exhibiting this problem and they seem to be the ones connected via Exchange ActiveSync with security policies in place.
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No: I'm connected only to my Microsoft account and a Gmail account. No EAS policies are in play.
Are you sure it isn't a PIN setting in the Kid's Corner settings? It asks you if you want to use a PIN when you first set it up, and that's not available from the KC "Customize" tile.
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Are you sure it isn't a PIN setting in the Kid's Corner settings? It asks you if you want to use a PIN when you first set it up, and that's not available from the KC "Customize" tile.
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It never asked me that when I first set it up; never asks that if I disable/enable from settings. Regardless, it follows whatever the setting from the lockscreen is.
I'm actually beginning to wonder if this may just be a poorly thought out design decision. I've seen reports on other forums that people who report being able to get into KC without a PIN when they have a lockscreen PIN also have a timeout set, rather than having it apply instantly, and that there seems to be some odd behavior with the two sides resetting that timeout differently, but that eventually even they would have to enter a PIN either way. Have you (or anyone else who can get into KC w/o a PIN immediately after locking their phone) tested whether the same is true if the phone's been sitting around for a while without being used and you try to go directly to KC? I trust people here more on troubleshooting than reports from other forums, so curious if those claims of it just being that it hasn't timed out yet have any validity.
I know for a fact when I turned on my wife's KC on her 820 yesterday that it asked if she wanted to use a PIN. When I try to find the setting on my 920 I can't see it anywhere, even turning KC on and off. Perhaps it's a one time thing and you mistakingly said yes?
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The whole idea of KC, though, is that I could hand my phone to someone, who could swipe over and up to get into Kids' Corner, then have free access to a sandboxed area without the ability to unlock the phone. Having to give them the PIN to unlock the phone is rather silly...
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Kid's Corner is working as designed; your premise about it's purpose is what I think is wrong. (BTW, your idea is a fine one, but it's not the problem that Microsoft set out to solve with Kids Corner.)
On PIN-protected phones, unauthorized users aren't permitted to just jump into Kids Corner on their own. (Among other things, allowing that would let anyone drain your battery.) Instead, the use case that Microsoft wanted to address was giving parents a way to grant their children a game-playing session with the phone without letting the child have full access to the phone (i.e., trapping the kid in the sandbox). For security reasons, that granting is to be done by the parent keying in the PIN, not by the parent revealing the PIN to anyone else.
Assuming that your phone is set up to prompt for a PIN after 15 minutes of inactivity, if the kid puts down the phone for 2 minutes and picks it up again, the PIN isn't needed because the parent-approved game-playing session is still active. If the kids sets down the phone for 20 minutes, the kid will need get the parent to OK additional game play.
Other users have complained that phones with PINs always require the PIN after a Kids Corner session. (The argument being that you may have just unlocked the phone for your kid's use so why would you have to key the PIN in again.) I would argue that the current behavior is the only one that makes sense because the other way creates a path for a kid to get out of the sandbox by just tapping the power button twice. So, the PIN is needed after a Kids Corner session because the phone knows that it was just in the hands of a kid or guest (i.e., not the actual owner) and it needs to get the owner's OK before letting the user into the full feature set.
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I know for a fact when I turned on my wife's KC on her 820 yesterday that it asked if she wanted to use a PIN. When I try to find the setting on my 920 I can't see it anywhere, even turning KC on and off. Perhaps it's a one time thing and you mistakingly said yes?
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Nope, I'm quite certain it never prompted me.
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Kid's Corner is working as designed; your premise about it's purpose is what I think is wrong. (BTW, your idea is a fine one, but it's not the problem that Microsoft set out to solve with Kids Corner.)
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Yeah, I was beginning to think it was actually working as designed, just designed in a way that seems contrary to its stated purpose.
So, the PIN is needed after a Kids Corner session because the phone knows that it was just in the hands of a kid or guest (i.e., not the actual owner) and it needs to get the owner's OK before letting the user into the full feature set.
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OK, this is the part I was missing ... at least it will always require a PIN to get back out of KC into the rest of the phone, though it still seems counterintuitive that there aren't separate settings. The demos show Joe handing a phone to his kid, who swipes over and up to get in - but it's never made clear what the intended behavior is with a PIN enabled. I was (apparently incorrectly) assuming that it could be set up to allow use by kids as demoed where they can unlock and get into KC themselves without allowing them out of the sandbox. The behavior as you describe it makes sense though, at least as far as not being a bug, even if it seems incomplete to me.
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The demos show Joe handing a phone to his kid, who swipes over and up to get in - but it's never made clear what the intended behavior is with a PIN enabled. I was (apparently incorrectly) assuming that it could be set up to allow use by kids as demoed where they can unlock and get into KC themselves without allowing them out of the sandbox.
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I think that in the demo, Joe didn't unlock the phone for his kids because he had just used it for another task and it hadn't yet relocked. I agree with you that at first glance Kids Corner seems odd. When I thought about it more, I realized that it's designed more to provide protection to the adult than it is to provide entertainment to kids.
Hello.
I beg for someone help us in this big mistake caused by inexperience:
I have just already married with my girlfriend (now my wife) and she made all the photos and videos of our wedding and family with her brand new LG G6 H870 (European model) three days ago.
She was using her fingerprint to unlock the phone all the times with no problem but by mistake we entered more than 5 times a wrong password and now the fingerprint unlock is not active and she doesn't remember which password she used with the phone. Therefore we have all of our memories inside it but we cannot recover them.
Please could anyone help us with this life-breaking mistake? We both are very very very sad about this, and even more problems will happen to us as a result of this...whatsapp receiving mote data that also will be lost, not using the phone SIM in another device to avoid losing the data in Whatsapp...
The resume of the situation is:
- She has her fingerprint ok inside the phone but the phone don't ler her use it to unlock and although the fingerprint is ok, instead the phone asks for the password that she forgot.
- We have our Google account ok configured into the phone but the Android Device Manager doesn't let us change the password to a new one remotely because Android Device Manager only permits that when no password existed before.
- I am technically skilled enough to understand advanced operations and steps on the device (recovery, ADB, writing command lines on a terminal...) but I have no experience at all in a situation like this and I am really scared of erasing or loosing this memories...
Please we would be grateful if someone could help us in this situation.
Thank you in advance.
You can marry another time....
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This makes no sense? If fingerprint worked, why were you entering passwords? Again, if there was no password, why are you entering one? Why not just reboot the phone and use the fingerprint?
There's something odd going on you're not telling us...
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This makes no sense? If fingerprint worked, why were you entering passwords? Again, if there was no password, why are you entering one? Why not just reboot the phone and use the fingerprint?
There's something odd going on you're not telling us...
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Rebooting the phone also then requires the password to unlock. LG does tell you "if you forget your password, your local data will be lost forever" owtte. So... Don't forget it. They weren't joking.
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Rebooting the phone also then requires the password to unlock. LG does tell you "if you forget your password, your local data will be lost forever" owtte. So... Don't forget it. They weren't joking.
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Thank you MDW 100 for the answer.
My wife is not a computer's engineer and as the password asked by the phone appears with a full keyboard (and not a numerical one as she thinks the password is only with numbers) I guess that four days ago, the day before the wedding (tradition implies not seeing the bride the day before the marriage) she configured her brand new mobile alone and probably she wrote something thinking it was another field different than a password...
I know what implies the kind of mistake I am telling.
The reason why I am writing here is because I know that nobody would help us officially to recover our memories, nor LG nor Google will...(we tried so...) and XDA members are well known for their technical skills, surpassing almost all the fences and barriers...
We have our purchase bill, our configured Google account (user and password) and my wife's fingerprint into the mobile and she never thought that things were so complicated and unflexible...
I thought that maybe somebody from XDA, as the best forum for mobiles in the world I thought it is, would be able to show that in this forum the word "impossible" is not a fact but only an opinion...
Is it really impossible to recover our memories?
Thank you in advance.
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Thank you MDW 100 for the answer.
My wife is not a computer's engineer and as the password asked by the phone appears with a full keyboard (and not a numerical one as she thinks the password is only with numbers) I guess that four days ago, the day before the wedding (tradition implies not seeing the bride the day before the marriage) she configured her brand new mobile alone and probably she wrote something thinking it was another field different than a password...
I know what implies the kind of mistake I am telling.
The reason why I am writing here is because I know that nobody would help us officially to recover our memories, nor LG nor Google will...(we tried so...) and XDA members are well known for their technical skills, surpassing almost all the fences and barriers...
We have our purchase bill, our configured Google account (user and password) and my wife's fingerprint into the mobile and she never thought that things were so complicated and unflexible...
I thought that maybe somebody from XDA, as the best forum for mobiles in the world I thought it is, would be able to show that in this forum the word "impossible" is not a fact but only an opinion...
Is it really impossible to recover our memories?
Thank you in advance.
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Sorry for not really being helpful, but I have no further suggestions. Then again I'm not an android dev so there's probably still hope ?
I hope you get your data back...
Thank you MDW 100.
Should I put this topic in another section like developers...?
Look for companies in your area doing mobile data recovery. Their service isn't cheap, but your wedding memories are worth it.
Hi, so I recently smashed the H*** out of my Essential Phone. I put my sim in my wife's old Nexus to try and get back into the Gmail account I've had for 10+ years, and they've forced 2 step verification onto my account and will not let me use my number for recovery. The ONLY way to complete this verification is to use my Broken Essential Phone to accept screen prompt. So here's my question... I was rooted, with TWRP and Custom rom but do have Full Back ups on my computer, so if I were able to get another essential phone and root it, would I be able to then restore the factory image and back ups I had created for this old essential phone onto the new device and gain access to my Gmail account that way, or am I totally out of luck unless I fix my smashed phone enuf to get to the screen on to accept screen prompt to verify my identity....? Any insight here is greatly appreciated. I have 1000's of $$ invested in that Gmail and have been unable to access it for a week now. Google has been zero help. Sorry if. This is posted in the wrong space, I haven't been here in a while.
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Hi, so I recently smashed the H*** out of my Essential Phone. I put my sim in my wife's old Nexus to try and get back into the Gmail account I've had for 10+ years, and they've forced 2 step verification onto my account and will not let me use my number for recovery. The ONLY way to complete this verification is to use my Broken Essential Phone to accept screen prompt. So here's my question... I was rooted, with TWRP and Custom rom but do have Full Back ups on my computer, so if I were able to get another essential phone and root it, would I be able to then restore the factory image and back ups I had created for this old essential phone onto the new device and gain access to my Gmail account that way, or am I totally out of luck unless I fix my smashed phone enuf to get to the screen on to accept screen prompt to verify my identity....? Any insight here is greatly appreciated. I have 1000's of $$ invested in that Gmail and have been unable to access it for a week now. Google has been zero help. Sorry if. This is posted in the wrong space, I haven't been here in a while.
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A few years back you used to be able to get a new phone install TWRP create a backup on new phone and then copy the files from the old phones backup into the new backup folder (with the new unique file number). But think I read this doesn't work anymore on new version (but not sure you'll have to check yourself or hopefully someone here knows)
Even if that works what type of 2FA is it? Authenticator or SMS?
https://support.google.com/accounts/troubleshooter/4430955?hl=en
without a backup code it may not work anyhow
if you can see your screen but touch is not working just plug a mouse into the usb & click away! If screen is blacked out but rest of hardware good easiest to buy a replacement screen as cheap or use usb-hdmi hub to mirror screen (not sure if Essential phone requires any input to set up as haven't tried with this phone)
If other hardware damage it will depend, but as rooted you are in with a chance. Is usb debugging on?
Thanks for your response, Google has been zero help and I've definitely considered ordering a screen to see if I can get the old device to work, but the og screen is detached from the chip board, as far as I can tell it will power on with some serious prompting, but idk if it's actually trying to boot up or in some kind of safe mode detecting the screen is missing, or just wrecked completely...? Lol the notification Light stays red until the battery dies. I've considered maybe trying to clone the esn of my old essential phone to another phone to try to trick their servers that way but idk if they recognize the device via that (The ESN) or tokens generated locally on the device, and the more I think about it, the more I think the latter sounds more logical considering the nature of the beast I'm fighting here... Seems It would b wildly irresponsible of them to rely solely on esn to identify a "Trusted" device. Idk what to do, lol except cry... I'm basically at a loss at this point, so I will order a screen and go from there I guess, if the screen option doesn't work. You'd think with the money they have, they'd have some type of account recovery team, or a way to recover in the event something like this happens, or someone to speak to at the very least, the can verify my account in seconds over the phone, but do literally nothing for me, nor let me speak with or point me towards anyone who can.... And this is a pretty common issue it seems after lookin at their "Community help section" it's literally top to bottom ppl complaining about what I'm looking to "get help" with. There is zero reason they should be forcing 2fv on my account it's shut off in my account settings, I can get far enuf to c them, just doesn't let me change anything with out "Signing in" and verifying. Nor does it give me the option to use my only ACTUAL set up recovery option on the account, a code via text. It's almost like theyre protecting all my own s***, from me. The owner. Makes zero sense to me.
It sounds like when you setup the essential, you configured your Google account to use the *device* (via the Google app) for verification. I've done this also, but I have an old device also configured to authenticate. So the pop-up screen appears on both.
If you use a computer to log into your Google account (not gmail) on the screen that is waiting for verification, there should be a link to try a different method. Hopefully you setup a secondary email address in addition to the gmail account one.
Edit: start here https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en
OT: I realize you are frustrated, but it would be easier to pick out the relevant information in your posts if they were not one long paragraph.
Hi all - I imagine this has been asked a thousand times before, but I am new here and in need of some real help.
My brother recently passed away, and his phone (Huwei P Smart 2019) mysteriously went into Airplane Mode, and has no sim card. The lock screen is on and none of the 'usual' numbers or patterns he used appear to work. This phone was his lifeline before he died, using it to speak to doctors and care workers - which is why I do not think he set it to airplane mode himself.
Shortly after he died a 'friend' went to his house to 'secure valuable belongings' and he had my blessing to do so. When I managed to get there, and secure those belongings myself, lo and behold the phone was locked.
Apparently, it does this when it powers up after the battery drains. Apparently, (according to the 'friend') on a reboot it shows a lock screen... and somehow goes into airplane mode. All I know is his two other older android phones do not have passcodes and all are open and accessible after a reboot - I've already been able to check these for data easily enough. I cannot even see what version of the OS is installed, but I'd guess it is the default that the phone came with.
I am not an Android user, and am certainly not a 'power' user of any device, so I don't know if what the 'friend' is telling me is total BS or not. What I do know is there is likely to be some essential information stored on that phone, let alone photos and memories that his family would like - I am specifically looking for any details of his medical treatments and messages he might have received just before he died.
I've trawled around countless 'phone repair' booths in countless malls, and everyone tells me the same thing - it can be opened, but you have to wipe the phone. Obviously, I don't think that'll help as a) I don't want to reuse the phone and b) I need the data from it to help with an ongoing case.
So, the question is, can it be done... and if so, how?
Thanks in advance to all who reply.
Not sure if I believe the story.
Probably with testpoint, with unlocktool, with chimera, with EFT dongle.
I've tried some methods the testpoint methods I tried all erase the data.
All other working methods are on youtube search for huawei frp without data loss and similar search strings, and click on Related videos.
Don't connect the Android to Internet to avoid security update.
Try the method with sim card with PIN however that may need a previous version security.
If there is important data wait some time and check youtube again however there are fake videos on there.
If it's too important probably someone can attack it through some method.
However if you have no good reason to attack this device better move on I do not believe the story with deceased relative and whatever is on the device maybe it's water under the bridge move forward. If not then it is a high cost in your time effort money patience better invested elsewhere.
Whatever the case not judging