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How to send files via bluetooth

Hi,
I have recently purchased a HTC Hero.
I am not able to find how to transmit files or contacts via bluetooth.
My last phone, HTC Tytn, could transmit contact information from my phone to my carkit (parrot). I am now looking for the same functionality on my Hero.
Anybody has any tips for me?
Regards,
Webster188

Unfortunately you can't at the minute. There are a few apps in the market that you can download (search for "obex") which claim to work but they are all a bit hit and miss. I think your hero needs to be rooted as well.

Yep, this is currently not supported even by a rooted Hero.
However, it is fully supported within Android version 2.0, which the Hero will be getting as an update before too long. So thankfully, we too soon will be able to send and receive files like any old crappy Nokia..

Out of interest does anyone know why Android and the iPhone have struggled with this? It does seem really silly!

mwitha said:
Out of interest does anyone know why Android and the iPhone have struggled with this? It does seem really silly!
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Well, when the G1 came out back in Oct'08, much of the Bluetooth support had been pulled from Android 1.0 as Google had not finalized the API. (see here)
Jump forward over a year, and it would appear that this is still the case!
As to the iPhone - I guess Steve Jobs didn't want it!
Regards,
Dave

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Out of interest does anyone know why Android and the iPhone have struggled with this? It does seem really silly!
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I believe it's due to the fact that the standard 'handshake' protocols and the like had not been defined in the bluetooth spec. Android and iphone felt it best to wait for the spec to be finalised. Most manufacturers went ahead with there own version. This is why it's sometimes a pain to get your bluetooth car kit etc to work properly because they are all slightly different. This may be why Android and iphone held off as they didnt want people moaning that it didnt work properly. Now of course we are all moaning that it doesnt work at all! I don't know if the spec's are now sorted or Android have just decided if you can't beat them join them.

Miracast on the Nexus 7?

In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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I'm very curious about this too.

I've looked into this briefly and from what I gather, any device that supports WIFI direct should be able to do this. I think I read somewhere that the N7 has wifi direct. Miracast is only a standard. There are other non-standard devices out there that can also do the same thing, but requires changes to the core android files.
Search for xbounds on youtube and the internet. You will see some demos of it. it requires an hdmi dongle that has wifi on it that communicates with your device.
In any event, if the N7 doesn't support miracast, it will support xbounds via a custom ROM (if and when somebody decides to build a custom ROM with xbounds integrated). Then all that is required is the xbounds dongle. Unfortunately, there is not much information on xbounds and when it will be released.

What would I need to purchase to get this working?

Hopefully, we don't need to buy stuff, we just need to update our devices when miracast comes down. There's a list of compatible devices on the Wi-Fi Alliance website. -Ara
EDIT: here's a link to the tegra explanation of miracast, taken from an article on the issue. Yeah, a dangle may be involved depending on the setup. http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-miracast-whitepaper-final.pdf
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I've not found any hardware that you could plug into say an HTML Monitor that will work with this yet. I do think it will be coming available soon though.

hope so
I reckon it will work with a Nexus 7. Hopefully the dongle isn't too expensive and my Nexus 7 will be my new PSone.

Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Nexus Q might get Miracast support
Nexus 7 and most Tegra 3 (also Galaxy S3) phones/tablets can get a fw upgrade to enable miracast (most that support WIFI Direct probably can have Miracast enabled).
Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
Personaly I think Miracast will be added out of the box and maybee even Google TV.
I only hope that it won't be possible to disable mirroring from inside an app using the API, if so I'm sure some streaming services will disable mirroring of the screen while using there apps lika HBO Go have done to Airplay

mfucci said:
Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
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Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
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Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.

widi and Miracast adapters
I am thinking that these will do what we need on the display side. Now to enable it on the Nexus 7.
Netgear announces Push2TV WiDi adapter and three new NeoTV units
engadget. com/2012/09/20/netgear-push2tv-neotv/#continued
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.
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Has anyone heard any updated news on miracast? I tried Google but all I found was old news. I'm really tired of waiting.

Fitbit sync nexus 4

OK so I have been thinking about this for a while. I know the Samsung galaxy s3 and note 2 allow Bluetooth syncing. Can we try a build.prop rename for device name to spoof a galaxy s3 and see if the 4.0 can get any action? Anyone able to help me with this.
I have been in contact with Fitbit and they say the Bluetooth stack for hardware is different on each hardware. But I'm still wanting to get this working. Anyone able to assist? Fitbit one and nexus 4
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iamdarren said:
OK so I have been thinking about this for a while. I know the Samsung galaxy s3 and note 2 allow Bluetooth syncing. Can we try a build.prop rename for device name to spoof a galaxy s3 and see if the 4.0 can get any action? Anyone able to help me with this.
I have been in contact with Fitbit and they say the Bluetooth stack for hardware is different on each hardware. But I'm still wanting to get this working. Anyone able to assist? Fitbit one and nexus 4
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No.

Galaxy s4 is looking pretty good to me now. :-s
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I have a Fitbit One and a Galaxy Nexus at the moment. I see the latest version will sync via Bluetooth with Samsung S3 and Note 2, but the comments on Google Play mention that it works with the Nexus 4 also. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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nigelw said:
I have a Fitbit One and a Galaxy Nexus at the moment. I see the latest version will sync via Bluetooth with Samsung S3 and Note 2, but the comments on Google Play mention that it works with the Nexus 4 also. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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I just bought a Fitbit One. I do not even see the One on my LG Nexus 4 V4.2.2 using the standard bluetooth control panel. Maybe there's a radio diag util that'll let me see it. Android Fitbit V1.6.1 software does not offer the option to sync on my LG Nexus 4. The LG Nexus 4 DOES have Bluetooth v4.0 hardware doesn't it?
I have an SMK Link V4 LE USB Bluetooth dongle on my netbook that, after downloading the god awful 400 megabyte driver from their website, does show the Fitbit One bluetooth but the Netbook refuses to attach to the Fitbit One. The Win 7 bluetooth control panel times out. It says I never entered the number (presumably on the FitBit One). I never saw any prompt to enter the four digit code on the PC or the Fitbit One.
Fitbit.com/store shows a $14.95 wireless dongle so I can sync at work & home but I'm hesitant to buy it given support for more Android phones are "coming soon". I wish they'd communicate their plans, schedules & devices better.
John
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jzoch said:
I just bought a Fitbit One. I do not even see the One on my LG Nexus 4 V4.2.2 using the standard bluetooth control panel. Maybe there's a radio diag util that'll let me see it. Android Fitbit V1.6.1 software does not offer the option to sync on my LG Nexus 4. The LG Nexus 4 DOES have Bluetooth v4.0 hardware doesn't it?
I have an SMK Link V4 LE USB Bluetooth dongle on my netbook that, after downloading the god awful 400 megabyte driver from their website, does show the Fitbit One bluetooth but the Netbook refuses to attach to the Fitbit One. The Win 7 bluetooth control panel times out. It says I never entered the number (presumably on the FitBit One). I never saw any prompt to enter the four digit code on the PC or the Fitbit One.
Fitbit.com/store shows a $14.95 wireless dongle so I can sync at work & home but I'm hesitant to buy it given support for more Android phones are "coming soon". I wish they'd communicate their plans, schedules & devices better.
John
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I just stumbled upon this:
URL deleted because I'm a noob.
Finally! Wireless Sync (beta) on Android!
2013 February 12
by lking
We’re excited to announce that wireless syncing with Android has arrived! Our free Fitbit App for Android now syncs your Fitbit One and Zip stats directly to the Samsung Galaxy SIII and Note II. With our app, you can sync your stats wirelessly (beta) and see how you are tracking against your daily goals, with friends, and against historic averages. You can download the app from Google Play today!
Android dashboard
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We know how important it is for our customers to get real-time access to their stats. Those who’ve been able to take advantage of wireless background syncing already have been telling us how they’ve worked to get their extra steps in after receiving notifications that they’re close to their goal, or how they find motivation from the instant feedback right on their Dashboard. We are very excited to bring this feature to our Android users!
We began working on the wireless sync for Android and iOS at around the same time. It took us much longer to get this working on Android phones than it did with iOS, and we appreciate our Android users’ patience in the meantime. We know many of you may be curious about the development of this feature, and we’d like to share some insight into some of the challenges we’ve encountered and what they’ve taught us in the process.
Currently, the Android OS does not provide apps with access to the Bluetooth 4.0 chips in newer phones. To work around this, some phones instead have custom software that provides access to Bluetooth 4.0. Since this software is different for each phone, our team has worked on developing a solution for each phone independently.
Fitbit is among the first to try and use the Bluetooth 4.0 in Android phones, and part of being the first means we got to help find and document any problems with the software. We also spent quite a bit of time piecing together how the software works, since it previously hadn’t been well-documented. For many of the problems we encountered, we were able to create our own work-arounds. For others, we coordinated with phone manufacturers and carriers to get more permanent fixes in place.
For phones we have yet to introduce syncing capabilities with, we’re working with phone manufacturers to see which phones will allow our app to work with their Bluetooth 4.0 capabilities. This process involves us individually checking each model of phone. There may be better support for third-party apps to access Bluetooth in the future, and once this is available we will be able to easily support all phones with this update.
We’ve been working hard to improve the wireless sync experience, but the feature is still in beta. Syncing your stats will typically take about 30 seconds. In some cases, especially where there are issues with network connection, it may take longer. We’re working hard to provide the best user experience possible, so improved syncing speed is just one thing you can look forward to seeing in future updates of our Android app.
Fitbit is dedicated to making connected devices that fit seamlessly into your everyday life, and we fully believe that incorporating Android phones in all of our future efforts is a huge part of that. We truly appreciate our Android users’ patience as we continue to work on supporting additional mobile devices. We’re closely collaborating with phone carriers and handset manufacturers to try to support more phones. There’s a number of phones we’re actively working on, but we don’t yet have an ETA on when we might be able to release updates to include them. For now, you can see a list of all of the supported devices here. If your device is not on that list, we encourage you to contact your phone carrier to ask that they work to build out further Bluetooth support. Your feedback could help us speed this process along!
Happy syncing and logging — wherever you go!
–The Fitbit team

Seems the problem is Google have not fully implemented Bluetooth 4.0 support, but Samsung for all their faults, have. Maybe we will get lucky with the next release of Android, Google IO is 2 weeks away.

Was really thinking about a Fitbit Flex but good thing I looked up wireless syncing.

bleuiko said:
Was really thinking about a Fitbit Flex but good thing I looked up wireless syncing.
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All Fitbit devices have wireless sync via the included bluetooth dongle. Real time active-sync via a Bluetooth 4.0 connection to your smartphone is what you are referring to..

G1ForFun said:
All Fitbit devices have wireless sync via the included bluetooth dongle. Real time active-sync via a Bluetooth 4.0 connection to your smartphone is what you are referring to..
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Yup. As this is a Nexus 4 forum, I figured the distinction was obvious. Thanks for making it clear. Fingers cross for some BT4 announcement at IO.

So I have been reading reviews for the flex and one of them mentioned NFC syncing to mobile devices although the fitbit website doesn't seem to spec this feature..... Was this just a deranged reviewer??
edit: Another review explains the following
"Even if your phone isn't one of the currently compatible models (the Galaxy S III, S4 and Note II), the inclusion of NFC lets you quickly launch the app with a tap, though there will be no ability to sync."

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So I have been reading reviews for the flex and one of them mentioned NFC syncing to mobile devices although the fitbit website doesn't seem to spec this feature..... Was this just a deranged reviewer??
edit: Another review explains the following
"Even if your phone isn't one of the currently compatible models (the Galaxy S III, S4 and Note II), the inclusion of NFC lets you quickly launch the app with a tap, though there will be no ability to sync."
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No, that's true. It just opens up the app but doesn't sync. I hate going back to TW. Mann.

ok im going to put this out there, but why do you need to sync your fitbit with your phone at all, i use my fitbit all day long and as long as i walk within 20 feet of my pc at home with the fitbit usb adapter and software on it my fitbit syncs so does my wifes, when she gets home from work walks in front door boom sync'd i have never had to open the app to sync my fitbit manually and never seen the need to sync to app being their are indicators on all fitbits saying where you stand on activity.

You only need mobile sync if you're away from your home pc for more than 5 days.
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nigelw said:
You only need mobile sync if you're away from your home pc for more than 5 days.
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oh ok ty that would be why i never thought i needed it even when i got on vacation i bring my netbook which is where it syncs.

I only have a Nexus 7 and a desktop PC, so a mobile sync will be useful when I'm away on holiday.
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No, that's true. It just opens up the app but doesn't sync. I hate going back to TW. Mann.
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I got no reaction after tap the flex by my nexus 4. Yes, the NFC is on

billsky83 said:
I got no reaction after tap the flex by my nexus 4. Yes, the NFC is on
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its quirky, sometimes i have to make my phone have sex with my fitbit to get it launch the app thats all the nfc feature does. its 90% of the time faster to just open the app with my finger then nfc, but its not nearly as cool as fitbit/phone sex

I have a Fitbit Flex and have looked into this. Apparently mobile syncing requires BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) which our phones don't have. However, they are capable of it and BLE is one of the rumored additions for Android 4.3.
Personally I hate having to take my dongle back and forth between home and work so I'm looking forward to being able to sync on my phone.

bringing this thread back up. I know that we have BLE now in 4.3 but fitbit has not updated the app yet. Anyway we can spoof the app in Build.prop maybe to make it work?

Pretty sure that the app needs to be coded for the nexus 4 BLE driver first...

Upgrade Bluetooth 4.0 to Bluetooth 4.1/4.1.5

Hi all!
Last night I was going through web-pages to make myself aware of the differences between the last version of Bluetooth (version 4.0) which was introduced in 2010 and it's successor, version 4.1 which was introduced in end of 2013!!
It brings 3 advantages which you can find in the article too.
Anyways, I ran into this interesting part of the article (link in the end) where it's been told that version jump isn't a hardware related (if you own a version 4.0 phone/tablet and not earlier versions) it's rather a software related jump.
So, I was wondering if anyone can find that kinda software which will do the trick for Note 3 (from Note 4) considering that both run Lollipop now and have same line of processors. :fingers-crossed:
Link-
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/bluetooth-4-1-what-is-it-and-why-should-you-care
Fyki, it's in the "What does Bluetooth 4.1 mean for developers?" section.
Some, not all features of Bluetooth version 4.2 (that's why the title says, Bluetooth 4.1.5) can also be brought via software update to existing 4.0 & 4.1 devices but that'd be asking for too much.. :laugh:
Link-
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/new-bluetooth-4-2-spec-brings-ipv6-better-privacy-and-increased-speed/

Hello do you have any software to update Bluetooth from 4 to 4.1?
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vinwin06 said:
Hello do you have any software to update Bluetooth from 4 to 4.1?
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No.. :crying:

I've spent the morning researching the same thing. Funny to find someone post the same question to XDA a year and a half earlier
I've also found out that 4.0 can easily be updated to 4.1 and contacted Magnat, the company that makes my Headphone (LZR 588 BT) - currently waiting for their reply. Doubt they will reply at the weekend, but in case they signal a chance to update their headphones in future, I will post this here, as it is an interesting reference case then.
So far, I have not found ANY evidence whatsoever of OEM's updating their BT equipment from 4.0 to 4.1. I doubt they have an interest in offering this service - BT 4.1 is quite the selling point as it introduces better interference filters (LTE and BT interference) which is quite the concern for many. My own research was motivated by this. My headphones partly have interference issues even when my phone is in my pocket, about 1 - to 1.5 meters away and I am out in the wild in direct sight of a cell tower. Or at home with several BT enabled devices and an LTE antenna not far away...
So, my thought was, if 4.1 can help fix this interference problem, it is a good reason to sell the same product again. Make more money. Why upgrade existing equipment then.
Oh and in case anyone here has the Magnat LZR 588 BT - please do contact them too. you can reach out to them via this email: info [@] magnat.de - be polite and ask for a way to update your headphones to 4.1.... maybe creates some awareness.
[EDIT] Apparently, BOSE does update their headphones, and the FAQ items ("Why do I need to update my headset?") specifically mentions compatibility updates for BT so it can keep working with newer smartphones, which I understand as a complete BT stack update. So, this kinda proves it should technically be possible and any answer from any company like: "Not possible" is a strategic answer, not a technical one.

Sneakyghost said:
I've spent the morning researching the same thing. Funny to find someone post the same question to XDA a year and a half earlier
I've also found out that 4.0 can easily be updated to 4.1 and contacted Magnat, the company that makes my Headphone (LZR 588 BT) - currently waiting for their reply. Doubt they will reply at the weekend, but in case they signal a chance to update their headphones in future, I will post this here, as it is an interesting reference case then.
So far, I have not found ANY evidence whatsoever of OEM's updating their BT equipment from 4.0 to 4.1. I doubt they have an interest in offering this service - BT 4.1 is quite the selling point as it introduces better interference filters (LTE and BT interference) which is quite the concern for many. My own research was motivated by this. My headphones partly have interference issues even when my phone is in my pocket, about 1 - to 1.5 meters away and I am out in the wild in direct sight of a cell tower. Or at home with several BT enabled devices and an LTE antenna not far away...
So, my thought was, if 4.1 can help fix this interference problem, it is a good reason to sell the same product again. Make more money. Why upgrade existing equipment then.
Oh and in case anyone here has the Magnat LZR 588 BT - please do contact them too. you can reach out to them via this email: info [@] magnat.de - be polite and ask for a way to update your headphones to 4.1.... maybe creates some awareness.
[EDIT] Apparently, BOSE does update their headphones, and the FAQ items ("Why do I need to update my headset?") specifically mentions compatibility updates for BT so it can keep working with newer smartphones, which I understand as a complete BT stack update. So, this kinda proves it should technically be possible and any answer from any company like: "Not possible" is a strategic answer, not a technical one.
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Very much the case with My Plantronics Voyager Edge.
:laugh:
I too-contacted the customer care regarding the same issue & they said, they've forwarded the issue to the related department. I don't know what they're gonna do with the report/request forwarded to them..

I wonder if flashing a rom based on a newer device's rom might also upgrade the phone's Bluetooth version..
Right now I'm using N7 rom for Note3 by Kill-Switch..

TheTAMAS said:
I wonder if flashing a rom based on a newer device's rom might also upgrade the phone's Bluetooth version..
Right now I'm using N7 rom for Note3 by Kill-Switch..
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I found articles discussing the Iphone 6 and 6+ having received an update from BT 4.0 to BT 4.2 (!!) by an iOS update. However, there were no details as to whether this was realized in iOS or in the firmware (radio firmware) part.
I strongly suspect that the update came with the iOS update but was done in the radio firmware, so NOT part of the ROM (iPhones don't differ that much from Android).
So, I would (speculatively) answer that you will NEVER get an updated BT stack by just flashing a newer ROM. It will most definitely be an updated radio firmware and (probably) updated files in the ROM going along the (main) changes in the radio, if there ever will be any such update for any smartphone besides the iPhone 6...
Apart from the iPhone and the Bose headsets, I have found virtually NO example of a BT upgrade. The industry mainly seems to pretend its not possible and with your Plantronics device, well, my guess is, "forwarding to a relevant department" eventually translates to "f*ck off and don't come back" like it usually does.

Sneakyghost said:
I found articles discussing the Iphone 6 and 6+ having received an update from BT 4.0 to BT 4.2 (!!) by an iOS update. However, there were no details as to whether this was realized in iOS or in the firmware (radio firmware) part.
I strongly suspect that the update came with the iOS update but was done in the radio firmware, so NOT part of the ROM (iPhones don't differ that much from Android).
So, I would (speculatively) answer that you will NEVER get an updated BT stack by just flashing a newer ROM. It will most definitely be an updated radio firmware and (probably) updated files in the ROM going along the (main) changes in the radio, if there ever will be any such update for any smartphone besides the iPhone 6...
Apart from the iPhone and the Bose headsets, I have found virtually NO example of a BT upgrade. The industry mainly seems to pretend its not possible and with your Plantronics device, well, my guess is, "forwarding to a relevant department" eventually translates to "f*ck off and don't come back" like it usually does.
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Apple updating 4 year old devices tells that it gives a lot more damn to its costumers than other companies we've mentioned.. In that regard, Apple is better than Google/Samsung
Bose? I've AE2W from them.. Did they update it?
Plantronics.. :laugh:

Sneakyghost said:
I've spent the morning researching the same thing. Funny to find someone post the same question to XDA a year and a half earlier
I've also found out that 4.0 can easily be updated to 4.1 and contacted Magnat, the company that makes my Headphone (LZR 588 BT) - currently waiting for their reply. Doubt they will reply at the weekend, but in case they signal a chance to update their headphones in future, I will post this here, as it is an interesting reference case then.
So far, I have not found ANY evidence whatsoever of OEM's updating their BT equipment from 4.0 to 4.1. I doubt they have an interest in offering this service - BT 4.1 is quite the selling point as it introduces better interference filters (LTE and BT interference) which is quite the concern for many. My own research was motivated by this. My headphones partly have interference issues even when my phone is in my pocket, about 1 - to 1.5 meters away and I am out in the wild in direct sight of a cell tower. Or at home with several BT enabled devices and an LTE antenna not far away...
So, my thought was, if 4.1 can help fix this interference problem, it is a good reason to sell the same product again. Make more money. Why upgrade existing equipment then.
Oh and in case anyone here has the Magnat LZR 588 BT - please do contact them too. you can reach out to them via this email: info [@] magnat.de - be polite and ask for a way to update your headphones to 4.1.... maybe creates some awareness.
[EDIT] Apparently, BOSE does update their headphones, and the FAQ items ("Why do I need to update my headset?") specifically mentions compatibility updates for BT so it can keep working with newer smartphones, which I understand as a complete BT stack update. So, this kinda proves it should technically be possible and any answer from any company like: "Not possible" is a strategic answer, not a technical one.
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Thing about oem updating old devices is that, they don't make as much money as they do selling you a new device with the update included.

king3opobn said:
Thing about oem updating old devices is that, they don't make as much money as they do selling you a new device with the update included.
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Yes, I agree.
but that also might mean-losing a customer to a company which does otherwise..
Just saying.. :laugh:
As there are VERRRRRRRRRRY few who do otherwise.

Magnat have replied. No BT upgrade for customers.
No explainer, no apology. Very dry, factual answer. Not, what I'd like to be treated as a customer.

Good luck buddy.
I've been waiting years for someone to figure out how to add the Bluetooth APT-X capability to ROM's without any luck.
See my signature below for a link to the thread which has stumped developers for far too long.

Will my SoundPEATS Q12 work in My HTC Desire 620g
TheTAMAS said:
Yes, I agree.
but that also might mean-losing a customer to a company which does otherwise..
Just saying.. :laugh:
As there are VERRRRRRRRRRY few who do otherwise.
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I'm Having HTC Desire 620g which has Bluetooth 4.0 and recently I've ordered for SoundPEATS Q12 which is Bluetooth 4.1.
and my doubt is.. Will my SoundPEATS Q12 work in My HTC Desire 620g??

Hemnath Deivamani said:
I'm Having HTC Desire 620g which has Bluetooth 4.0 and recently I've ordered for SoundPEATS Q12 which is Bluetooth 4.1.
and my doubt is.. Will my SoundPEATS Q12 work in My HTC Desire 620g??
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It will..

No bluetooth 5 until Android O

It seems we won't have bluetooth 5 until Android O update androidcentral.com\bluetooth-5 (sorry, cannot share links yet)

Next update will include Bluetooth 5.0 Activation. As far as Android O, only saw one article stating that about Bluetooth 5.0 and O. LlabTooFer tweeted all the features of the next update and no mention of Android O. Also the latest base on Viper and Leedroid already have 5.0 Bluetooth support and are still Nougat. Don't know how well it works though not using those ROMS.

The original article I found was on htc blog (first link if you google "htc u11 bluetooth 5.0 htc blog"). There is an explanation why only Android O has this feature. Who to believe after all?

Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.

sergeymetallic said:
The original article I found was on htc blog (first link if you google "htc u11 bluetooth 5.0 htc blog"). There is an explanation why only Android O has this feature. Who to believe after all?
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ryanyz10 said:
Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.
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good info, looks like we'll be waiting longer
https://www.androidcentral.com/bluetooth-5

ryanyz10 said:
Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.
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So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.

tkoreaper said:
So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.
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Read the article I posted, bt 5 doesn't work on any device running Nougat even Samsung, O will support it.
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tkoreaper said:
So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.
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It's even mentioned in their article
When Android O, the next version of the Android OS becomes available, HTC U11 owners all over the world will be able to enjoy the benefits of Bluetooth 5.0.
We’re excited to be able to bring this announcement to HTC U11 customers around the world as we strive to continuously improve our customers’ mobile experience—we believe Bluetooth 5.0 compatibility helps do that.
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http://blog.htc.com/2017/08/htc-u11-ready-next-generation-connected-devices-bluetooth-5-0-support/

ShyamSasi said:
It's even mentioned in their article
http://blog.htc.com/2017/08/htc-u11-ready-next-generation-connected-devices-bluetooth-5-0-support/
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My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.

Also sony contributed it's LDAC codec to Android O, so we could enjoy high quality bluetooth headsets

tkoreaper said:
My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.
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I think that it might be two BT chips, unless someone knows otherwise

tkoreaper said:
My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.
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How? I'd do it right now. We have this ability on our U11 already? I want.
Are you thinkin what Im thinkin? Wireless dolby surround with easy routing. Ornon dolby...simple 5.1. Why give dolby your endorsement. I been producing in 5.1 since my album mastered in Adobe Audition hit in late 2015. And Dolby got nothing to do with that effort.

kruc Ire said:
How? I'd do it right now. We have this ability on our U11 already? I want.
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That would be something that HTC would have to implement into the software.

tkoreaper said:
That would be something that HTC would have to implement into the software.
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I should be working on that. If the bt can send two channels of music it can be separated. And if 2 why not n channels. And why not choose. The stereo music has two channels. The 5.1 has 6 channels. So the size of a (wav) songfile is triple. My 26 song triple album was over 8 GB in size :good:
I am currently having two bluetooth lightbulbs. I see no reason not to get 4 more if bluetooth surround became available