Hi all!
Last night I was going through web-pages to make myself aware of the differences between the last version of Bluetooth (version 4.0) which was introduced in 2010 and it's successor, version 4.1 which was introduced in end of 2013!!
It brings 3 advantages which you can find in the article too.
Anyways, I ran into this interesting part of the article (link in the end) where it's been told that version jump isn't a hardware related (if you own a version 4.0 phone/tablet and not earlier versions) it's rather a software related jump.
So, I was wondering if anyone can find that kinda software which will do the trick for Note 3 (from Note 4) considering that both run Lollipop now and have same line of processors. :fingers-crossed:
Link-
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/bluetooth-4-1-what-is-it-and-why-should-you-care
Fyki, it's in the "What does Bluetooth 4.1 mean for developers?" section.
Some, not all features of Bluetooth version 4.2 (that's why the title says, Bluetooth 4.1.5) can also be brought via software update to existing 4.0 & 4.1 devices but that'd be asking for too much.. :laugh:
Link-
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/new-bluetooth-4-2-spec-brings-ipv6-better-privacy-and-increased-speed/
Hello do you have any software to update Bluetooth from 4 to 4.1?
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vinwin06 said:
Hello do you have any software to update Bluetooth from 4 to 4.1?
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No.. :crying:
I've spent the morning researching the same thing. Funny to find someone post the same question to XDA a year and a half earlier
I've also found out that 4.0 can easily be updated to 4.1 and contacted Magnat, the company that makes my Headphone (LZR 588 BT) - currently waiting for their reply. Doubt they will reply at the weekend, but in case they signal a chance to update their headphones in future, I will post this here, as it is an interesting reference case then.
So far, I have not found ANY evidence whatsoever of OEM's updating their BT equipment from 4.0 to 4.1. I doubt they have an interest in offering this service - BT 4.1 is quite the selling point as it introduces better interference filters (LTE and BT interference) which is quite the concern for many. My own research was motivated by this. My headphones partly have interference issues even when my phone is in my pocket, about 1 - to 1.5 meters away and I am out in the wild in direct sight of a cell tower. Or at home with several BT enabled devices and an LTE antenna not far away...
So, my thought was, if 4.1 can help fix this interference problem, it is a good reason to sell the same product again. Make more money. Why upgrade existing equipment then.
Oh and in case anyone here has the Magnat LZR 588 BT - please do contact them too. you can reach out to them via this email: info [@] magnat.de - be polite and ask for a way to update your headphones to 4.1.... maybe creates some awareness.
[EDIT] Apparently, BOSE does update their headphones, and the FAQ items ("Why do I need to update my headset?") specifically mentions compatibility updates for BT so it can keep working with newer smartphones, which I understand as a complete BT stack update. So, this kinda proves it should technically be possible and any answer from any company like: "Not possible" is a strategic answer, not a technical one.
Sneakyghost said:
I've spent the morning researching the same thing. Funny to find someone post the same question to XDA a year and a half earlier
I've also found out that 4.0 can easily be updated to 4.1 and contacted Magnat, the company that makes my Headphone (LZR 588 BT) - currently waiting for their reply. Doubt they will reply at the weekend, but in case they signal a chance to update their headphones in future, I will post this here, as it is an interesting reference case then.
So far, I have not found ANY evidence whatsoever of OEM's updating their BT equipment from 4.0 to 4.1. I doubt they have an interest in offering this service - BT 4.1 is quite the selling point as it introduces better interference filters (LTE and BT interference) which is quite the concern for many. My own research was motivated by this. My headphones partly have interference issues even when my phone is in my pocket, about 1 - to 1.5 meters away and I am out in the wild in direct sight of a cell tower. Or at home with several BT enabled devices and an LTE antenna not far away...
So, my thought was, if 4.1 can help fix this interference problem, it is a good reason to sell the same product again. Make more money. Why upgrade existing equipment then.
Oh and in case anyone here has the Magnat LZR 588 BT - please do contact them too. you can reach out to them via this email: info [@] magnat.de - be polite and ask for a way to update your headphones to 4.1.... maybe creates some awareness.
[EDIT] Apparently, BOSE does update their headphones, and the FAQ items ("Why do I need to update my headset?") specifically mentions compatibility updates for BT so it can keep working with newer smartphones, which I understand as a complete BT stack update. So, this kinda proves it should technically be possible and any answer from any company like: "Not possible" is a strategic answer, not a technical one.
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Very much the case with My Plantronics Voyager Edge.
:laugh:
I too-contacted the customer care regarding the same issue & they said, they've forwarded the issue to the related department. I don't know what they're gonna do with the report/request forwarded to them..
I wonder if flashing a rom based on a newer device's rom might also upgrade the phone's Bluetooth version..
Right now I'm using N7 rom for Note3 by Kill-Switch..
TheTAMAS said:
I wonder if flashing a rom based on a newer device's rom might also upgrade the phone's Bluetooth version..
Right now I'm using N7 rom for Note3 by Kill-Switch..
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I found articles discussing the Iphone 6 and 6+ having received an update from BT 4.0 to BT 4.2 (!!) by an iOS update. However, there were no details as to whether this was realized in iOS or in the firmware (radio firmware) part.
I strongly suspect that the update came with the iOS update but was done in the radio firmware, so NOT part of the ROM (iPhones don't differ that much from Android).
So, I would (speculatively) answer that you will NEVER get an updated BT stack by just flashing a newer ROM. It will most definitely be an updated radio firmware and (probably) updated files in the ROM going along the (main) changes in the radio, if there ever will be any such update for any smartphone besides the iPhone 6...
Apart from the iPhone and the Bose headsets, I have found virtually NO example of a BT upgrade. The industry mainly seems to pretend its not possible and with your Plantronics device, well, my guess is, "forwarding to a relevant department" eventually translates to "f*ck off and don't come back" like it usually does.
Sneakyghost said:
I found articles discussing the Iphone 6 and 6+ having received an update from BT 4.0 to BT 4.2 (!!) by an iOS update. However, there were no details as to whether this was realized in iOS or in the firmware (radio firmware) part.
I strongly suspect that the update came with the iOS update but was done in the radio firmware, so NOT part of the ROM (iPhones don't differ that much from Android).
So, I would (speculatively) answer that you will NEVER get an updated BT stack by just flashing a newer ROM. It will most definitely be an updated radio firmware and (probably) updated files in the ROM going along the (main) changes in the radio, if there ever will be any such update for any smartphone besides the iPhone 6...
Apart from the iPhone and the Bose headsets, I have found virtually NO example of a BT upgrade. The industry mainly seems to pretend its not possible and with your Plantronics device, well, my guess is, "forwarding to a relevant department" eventually translates to "f*ck off and don't come back" like it usually does.
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Apple updating 4 year old devices tells that it gives a lot more damn to its costumers than other companies we've mentioned.. In that regard, Apple is better than Google/Samsung
Bose? I've AE2W from them.. Did they update it?
Plantronics.. :laugh:
Sneakyghost said:
I've spent the morning researching the same thing. Funny to find someone post the same question to XDA a year and a half earlier
I've also found out that 4.0 can easily be updated to 4.1 and contacted Magnat, the company that makes my Headphone (LZR 588 BT) - currently waiting for their reply. Doubt they will reply at the weekend, but in case they signal a chance to update their headphones in future, I will post this here, as it is an interesting reference case then.
So far, I have not found ANY evidence whatsoever of OEM's updating their BT equipment from 4.0 to 4.1. I doubt they have an interest in offering this service - BT 4.1 is quite the selling point as it introduces better interference filters (LTE and BT interference) which is quite the concern for many. My own research was motivated by this. My headphones partly have interference issues even when my phone is in my pocket, about 1 - to 1.5 meters away and I am out in the wild in direct sight of a cell tower. Or at home with several BT enabled devices and an LTE antenna not far away...
So, my thought was, if 4.1 can help fix this interference problem, it is a good reason to sell the same product again. Make more money. Why upgrade existing equipment then.
Oh and in case anyone here has the Magnat LZR 588 BT - please do contact them too. you can reach out to them via this email: info [@] magnat.de - be polite and ask for a way to update your headphones to 4.1.... maybe creates some awareness.
[EDIT] Apparently, BOSE does update their headphones, and the FAQ items ("Why do I need to update my headset?") specifically mentions compatibility updates for BT so it can keep working with newer smartphones, which I understand as a complete BT stack update. So, this kinda proves it should technically be possible and any answer from any company like: "Not possible" is a strategic answer, not a technical one.
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Thing about oem updating old devices is that, they don't make as much money as they do selling you a new device with the update included.
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Thing about oem updating old devices is that, they don't make as much money as they do selling you a new device with the update included.
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Yes, I agree.
but that also might mean-losing a customer to a company which does otherwise..
Just saying.. :laugh:
As there are VERRRRRRRRRRY few who do otherwise.
Magnat have replied. No BT upgrade for customers.
No explainer, no apology. Very dry, factual answer. Not, what I'd like to be treated as a customer.
Good luck buddy.
I've been waiting years for someone to figure out how to add the Bluetooth APT-X capability to ROM's without any luck.
See my signature below for a link to the thread which has stumped developers for far too long.
Will my SoundPEATS Q12 work in My HTC Desire 620g
TheTAMAS said:
Yes, I agree.
but that also might mean-losing a customer to a company which does otherwise..
Just saying.. :laugh:
As there are VERRRRRRRRRRY few who do otherwise.
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I'm Having HTC Desire 620g which has Bluetooth 4.0 and recently I've ordered for SoundPEATS Q12 which is Bluetooth 4.1.
and my doubt is.. Will my SoundPEATS Q12 work in My HTC Desire 620g??
Hemnath Deivamani said:
I'm Having HTC Desire 620g which has Bluetooth 4.0 and recently I've ordered for SoundPEATS Q12 which is Bluetooth 4.1.
and my doubt is.. Will my SoundPEATS Q12 work in My HTC Desire 620g??
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It will..
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Well my sage continues with this XDA (SX56). This $400 Paper weight has finally pushed me back to using a PALM device. Very disappointing since I love the functionality of my Pocket PC. After Upgrading and downgrading ROM and Radio Stacks the device just never truly gets to be a phone. So I have to go back to carrying my Toshiba PDA and my Palm Tungsten W in order to get anything done.
I am so sorry for even buying the dam thing it has been a serious dampener to my business and I would never recommend another PDA/Phone like this again, to anyone.
So if your are on this website looking for a fix...there isn't one. Accept the fact that the device is just a pretty PDA that can be a phone once and a while.
I am very happy with my xda and xda 2, I have never had a problem with the phone side and I think the xda is the best featured value for money pda/phone on the market. Maybe you should address the problem in the hope of fixing it, messing with radio stacks is not to be taken lightly. If you supply all the details such as original radio stack, current radio stack, original and current rom, the nature of your problem etc. you may find a solution, if you just want to moan then moan to the suppliers. If you have been experimenting with non official upgrades etc then it is not the fault of the supplier or the hardware.
Great device
I used my xda as a pda, to access emails, to surf the net, as a library, as a directory, as a newspaper and even as a phone now and again (have I missed anything out? oh yes its a big kids toy as well.). Now and again I get a hitch ... usually due to my own meddling, but most of the time it all works fine. I finally talked myself into an XDA II a couple of weeks ago and now I can add media messaging, video camera and wifi to the list.
As for the phone, I guess your network and local signal strength will dictate how well it works ... perhaps I have just been lucky.
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I am very happy with my xda and xda 2, I have never had a problem with the phone side and I think the xda is the best featured value for money pda/phone on the market. Maybe you should address the problem in the hope of fixing it, messing with radio stacks is not to be taken lightly. If you supply all the details such as original radio stack, current radio stack, original and current rom, the nature of your problem etc. you may find a solution, if you just want to moan then moan to the suppliers. If you have been experimenting with non official upgrades etc then it is not the fault of the supplier or the hardware.
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Agreed, I am very happy with the phone and pad portions, as well as the ability to hack and test like mad.
Plenty of people seem happy. Me included. Seems that you fixed what wasn't broke. Jolly bad luck, old chap.
I'm trying to work out what was the purpose of your post. Sounds like an admission that you screwed it up.
In my experience, company directors shouldn't ever be allowed near technology...
mmm 7 posts
6 from last two days
all just complaining
How do you treat employees that only complain?
Phew, it's getting a bit warm in here!
I agree with the general consensus, it's a great device, and i think you just have to accept that any device that can be a phone, pda, internet browser, satnav, mp3/video player etc etc all in one handy little box is going to have a few problems every now and again! Stop moaning!
Perhaps I'm biased because I have been a PPC fan for a long time and so really utilize my XDA II's PPC functions a lot. But to me the phone aspect works pretty well too.
I must admit it is a bit disappointing that we need to buy 3rd party applications like RingtoneX and PocketZenPhone to profide functions which are standard in most other phones but apart from that I am happy with the phone functionality too.
Combined with my in car kit and Destinator GPS the XDA II becomes even more functional. The clarity of calls made and received in the car is fine and the GPS is fantastic.
For a mobile hands free I have opted to use the Logitec BT headset. Yeah I look a bit weird with it stuck on my ear but it certainly does the trick.
I'm sorry you are disappointed with your choice Director4u2c, but I am very happy with mine.
Ed
Yep, I've had a few problems with my Xda1, but after finding this site and being very patient and persistent I now have 2003 and it works really well as a phone, I'm a youth worker and need a reliable phone - this fits the bill. I've got all my contacts can browse the internet for housing vacancies etc. I suggest you ask rudegar to send you some basic instructions (as he did for myself) and then play a bit. At first I found the instructions very confusing, but by going step by step I upgraded the software and it all works fantastically! Give it a go mate, and hopefully you'll have better luck
Hi,
I have recently purchased a HTC Hero.
I am not able to find how to transmit files or contacts via bluetooth.
My last phone, HTC Tytn, could transmit contact information from my phone to my carkit (parrot). I am now looking for the same functionality on my Hero.
Anybody has any tips for me?
Regards,
Webster188
Unfortunately you can't at the minute. There are a few apps in the market that you can download (search for "obex") which claim to work but they are all a bit hit and miss. I think your hero needs to be rooted as well.
Yep, this is currently not supported even by a rooted Hero.
However, it is fully supported within Android version 2.0, which the Hero will be getting as an update before too long. So thankfully, we too soon will be able to send and receive files like any old crappy Nokia..
Out of interest does anyone know why Android and the iPhone have struggled with this? It does seem really silly!
mwitha said:
Out of interest does anyone know why Android and the iPhone have struggled with this? It does seem really silly!
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Well, when the G1 came out back in Oct'08, much of the Bluetooth support had been pulled from Android 1.0 as Google had not finalized the API. (see here)
Jump forward over a year, and it would appear that this is still the case!
As to the iPhone - I guess Steve Jobs didn't want it!
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Dave
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Out of interest does anyone know why Android and the iPhone have struggled with this? It does seem really silly!
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I believe it's due to the fact that the standard 'handshake' protocols and the like had not been defined in the bluetooth spec. Android and iphone felt it best to wait for the spec to be finalised. Most manufacturers went ahead with there own version. This is why it's sometimes a pain to get your bluetooth car kit etc to work properly because they are all slightly different. This may be why Android and iphone held off as they didnt want people moaning that it didnt work properly. Now of course we are all moaning that it doesnt work at all! I don't know if the spec's are now sorted or Android have just decided if you can't beat them join them.
Other flagships have hardware that support this - does the Nexus and is Android 4.2 likely to support it? (4.1 does not).
Why is it useful? Well if you use a heart rate monitor for sports, it will last longer. It can also be used to connect devices.
It's a huge feature for me as a runner. Currently I use a Garmin 305 which is an awesome, if ugly, product. With apps like strava / endomondo and more, it would be nice to have all this, with GPS and music on one device
I believe Bluetooth 4.0 is present on this device. Check the spec sheet on Google Play, but I'm 99.99% sure.
The hardware is present for Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) but as yet, no version of Android supports it.
There is an issue thread on google regarding this - if people star it google might treat the issue as a priority.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
I think google is looking to NFC for nearfield communication forgetting some of the cool uses bluetooth can be put to.
kieren2 said:
The hardware is present for Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) but as yet, no version of Android supports it.
There is an issue thread on google regarding this - if people star it google might treat the issue as a priority.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
I think google is looking to NFC for nearfield communication forgetting some of the cool uses bluetooth can be put to.
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The Broadcom BCM4330 supports BTLE (http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s549642), and according to this website: http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/repo...market-reports/Report-Profile/?ReportKey=8713
The LG Optimus G uses that Broadcom chip, so it's possible that the Nexus 4 also uses it?
According to the newly updated Android 4.2 changelog: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html
Android 4.2 introduces a new Bluetooth stack optimized for use with Android devices. The new Bluetooth stack developed in collaboration between Google and Broadcom replaces the stack based on BlueZ and provides improved compatibility and reliability.
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I sure hope that we will have BTLE support with the Nexus 4. I really want to buy a Polar H7 HRM!
I'm glad someone else is concerned
It doesn't look too good. Although they have rewritten the stack, there is no mention of Bluetooth Low Energy or Bluetooth Smart.
Apart from the issue raised with google in my first post, I have no idea how to reach out to them regarding this. Does anyone know? This is Android general rather than device specific. Pretty much all the new handsets have hardware that support BLE but there is no OS support in Android
At last - some hope. Although there is no ETA, looks like we can hope for BLE support in Android 4.3
"BLE will be the next major feature we are going to add."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-platform/CYtxCmtZ-WI/aIzBq7KbKVUJ
Any updates on the BLE support? I am working on a BLE breakout board and would like to get it working with the Nexus 4 rather than just the computer via a dongle. From what I've found online there is a BLE stack in 4.2, yet for some reason I can't find it or get anything to work.
What exactly would this do? I understand the low energy stuff, but I don't see what else it has, and whether we have to enable it first, or something.
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What exactly would this do? I understand the low energy stuff, but I don't see what else it has, and whether we have to enable it first, or something.
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BLE is a wireless protocol that peripheral devices can use to interface with your phone. Somewhat similar to regular bluetooth (and other proprietary wireless links), it can allow a sensor to wirelessly stream data or allow a phone to control a robot or any other device with BLE. I'm not sure if that answers your question. The real benefit is that BLE uses significantly less power (upon other things) and thus can enable a new set of devices. For example, part of my dissertation is a cardiac monitoring system which I would like to connect to my Nexus 4.
Any news?
Hi guys,
Are there any news on Bluetooth 4.0 / smart ready on the Nexus 4 and maybe 4.2.2 yet?
Was someone already able to pair the Nexus 4 with the Polar H7?
Maybe I'll order one and try if it works by now.
Thanks for your answers anyway. :good:
I have the same question about BLE.
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Other flagships have hardware that support this - does the Nexus and is Android 4.2 likely to support it? (4.1 does not).
Why is it useful? Well if you use a heart rate monitor for sports, it will last longer. It can also be used to connect devices.
It's a huge feature for me as a runner. Currently I use a Garmin 305 which is an awesome, if ugly, product. With apps like strava / endomondo and more, it would be nice to have all this, with GPS and music on one device
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+1
Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
id628 said:
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Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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Arrrghg - your post is what I found when searching for Fitbit, which I just bought. Very frustrating our N4's can't support the BT connection yet. I also hate that stupid dongle!
The new Fitbits use BLE too? Wow, Google need to get Android caught up, really never expect them to be behind with technologies.
So, should I send my H7 back, or wait???
Google finally started looking into BLE two days ago. See the bottom of this page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
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Google finally started looking into BLE two days ago. See the bottom of this page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
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Added my vote to get them to acknowledge this. Amazing that nothing has been done yet.
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Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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Arrrghg - your post is what I found when searching for Fitbit, which I just bought. Very frustrating our N4's can't support the BT connection yet. I also hate that stupid dongle!
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AndyCr15 said:
The new Fitbits use BLE too? Wow, Google need to get Android caught up, really never expect them to be behind with technologies.
So, should I send my H7 back, or wait???
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I just bought a Fitbit One which uses BLE. I'm with you guys in hoping Google gets this feature added and supported very soon. It would be really nice!
This will be addressed with K release.
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I wonder which one will come out first. The Fitbit Flex or a Nexus 4 update with BLE.
I'm hoping it's coming soon, I just ordered a bunch of Motes to instrument my house...
http://igg.me/at/motes/x/1655370
danny.ffm said:
Hi guys,
Are there any news on Bluetooth 4.0 / smart ready on the Nexus 4 and maybe 4.2.2 yet?
Was someone already able to pair the Nexus 4 with the Polar H7?
Maybe I'll order one and try if it works by now.
Thanks for your answers anyway. :good:
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I'm returning my OP3T due to bluetooth issues with multiple devices while streaming music, movies, etc. I've never had these same issues with my other phones (various Nexuses) or my tablets (Nexus 7, iPad Mini 4).
My RMA request from OnePlus was processed as I'm still within the 15-day guarantee window, but they had the audacity to include this in the message they sent me:
We apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused you.Before we process your RMA request, we would like to inform you that our wifi and bluetooth are using one antenna only so if you want your WiFi and Bluetooth to function accordingly, please use them one at a time.
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What on earth?! Are they saying this is a design flaw?
There is no issue with using them at the same time at all. Maybe your device is faulty or, more probably, your bt hw is acting wrong. Never had any problem and I'm costantly with both in use.
I mean, I guess that makes sense, and I asked them about it in the RMA ticket, but it's also bizarre to be explicitly told not to use the features simultaneously by one of their support staff.
In my case both Bluetooth and WiFi work simultaneously exactly the way they should. What that OP employee said must be some serious bull****.
Very strange. I am also using both of them together without any issues
That is just a crazy thing for them to tell you. I think the vast majority of us use/keep on WiFi when at home, and then use our phones simultaneously with any number of BT devices: speakers, headphones, fitness trackers, etc. etc. etc. It's really the whole point of Bluetooth to be able to use these peripherals along with streamed music, videos; and not have to toggle BT and WiFi off and on all the time.
I read your other thread, and it doesn't seem to be a widespread problem; at least from responses so far. My thinking, is that you do have a defective phone. I use my 3T constantly with 4 different BT devices (car head unit, headphones, phone earpiece, speaker) and always have WiFi on, and it works almost flawlessly.
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That is just a crazy thing for them to tell you.
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My thoughts exactly! I mean, OK, share the antenna or whatever, but have firmware that divides the time up so WiFi and BT aren't shouting at the same time. Even if they had separate antennae they'd still be close together and would cause interference, so the time-division would be important.
I was expecting "gee that's weird, let's get your phone fixed ASAP!" not "yer doing it wrong".
evilspoons said:
I'm returning my OP3T due to bluetooth issues with multiple devices while streaming music, movies, etc. I've never had these same issues with my other phones (various Nexuses) or my tablets (Nexus 7, iPad Mini 4).
My RMA request from OnePlus was processed as I'm still within the 15-day guarantee window, but they had the audacity to include this in the message they sent me:
What on earth?! Are they saying this is a design flaw?
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Dude what exactly are you trying to inform us? Your problem is our problem also? Im not abusing my device with too many peripherals connected at tye same time.
ebautista said:
Dude what exactly are you trying to inform us? Your problem is our problem also? Im not abusing my device with too many peripherals connected at tye same time.
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No, I'm literally saying that a OnePlus employee told me not to use Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time and that's why I was having problems with interference/disconnection (in spite of only connecting to one device, not doing anything too crazy, etc etc). They literally told me to "use them one at a time" (WiFi or Bluetooth) when using a 3T.
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Im not abusing my device with too many peripherals connected at tye same time.
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Base on this other thread, the OP doesn't seem to have multiple peripherals connected at the same time: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/help/crazy-useless-bluetooth-device-t3582925
He mentions 3 peripherals (car head unit, speaker dock, headphones). All those are media (audio) peripherals, so in use one at a time. Nothing here seems unreasonable. His point by mentioning "multiple devices" in the top post, is to point out the same issue occurs on each (so probably a matter of one peripheral not playing well).
Probably a cheap BT peripheral.
They have to fix it if its a hardware issue. They simply must.
@redpoint73 good to see you enjoying the OP3T. What did you do with the your N6P?
OP, never had issues with wifi/bt on. Good luck on getting your issue resolved.
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Yeah. I use them together and don't have any issues.
Sent from my OnePlus 3T using XDA Labs
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No, I'm literally saying that a OnePlus employee told me not to use Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time and that's why I was having problems with interference/disconnection (in spite of only connecting to one device, not doing anything too crazy, etc etc). They literally told me to "use them one at a time" (WiFi or Bluetooth) when using a 3T.
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They meaning an employee told you. Not sure what its like in canada but here in the uk if you shop at pc world or in any of the phone supplier high street shops, you are better off asking them what side of your bread is best for to spread on, let alone any tech questions. They will always answer with the bottom side.
veroby said:
They meaning an employee told you.
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It says right in the top post, "they" means OnePlus. Only use Bluetooth or WiFi one at a time, is what the message OnePlus sent to the OP stated, when he put in his RMA (service) request.
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Jxcorex29 said:
@redpoint73 good to see you enjoying the OP3T. What did you do with the your N6P?
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Hey buddy! I actually know you from even before the 6P days (never owned one), but rather the HTC M8 forum section!
The M8 is still kicking. I use it as a WiFi-only device at home for my kids to watch Netflix, Youtube, and play their games.
I actually just upgraded from the M8 in February. That was a great phone; hard to let go of, as there was really nothing wrong with it (which is why it took me so long to upgrade). But I was finally ready for something faster, and with a better camera (as I take a lot of snapshots of the kids). And the nicer screen, and added security of the fingerprint reader on the OP3T is nice to have, also.
I knew that. I was just stating that these companies sometimes hire people whom know jack about what they're giving advice about. It's like asking an Irishman where the tax department is. He only knows we're the closest pub which sells Guinness.
matrixino said:
Probably a cheap BT peripheral.
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Ehhhhh no, I think by process of elimination (sheer quantity) we can say it isn't, unless you mean the chip in the phone.
I have now tested:
- the TomTom factory navigation system in a 2013 Mazda 3 GT
- a Pioneer X930BT head unit
- a Monoprice #15274 wireless headphone set
- a weirdo Monoprice speaker that, admittedly, probably has exactly the same electronics as the headphones (makes the same noises, has the same number of buttons)
- a harman/kardon speaker dock
- a Microsoft Bluetooth LE mouse (Mobile Mouse 3600)
- an old Apple full-size Bluetooth keyboard, not LE (BT 3.0?)
- two FitBit Alta BT LE fitness trackers
Every single device was paired one-at-a-time, tested in airplane mode (obviously switching BT back on after), where they worked fine, then switching WiFi back on and streaming a video and trying to continue to use the device where they all eventually crapped the bed (random disconnects).
Every single one of these devices (except where BT LE is not available) works/worked fine on:
- Nexus 4 (battery is hosed)
- Nexus 5 (borrowed)
- Nexus 5X (wife's)
- Nexus 6P (dead now...)
- iPad Mini 4
- my Surface Pro 3
- Nexus 7 Wifi only
So by process of elimination, it's probably the OnePlus 3T. That's fine! I don't have anything personal against it. I was just absolutely baffled by how OnePlus (two different people now!) told me not to use WiFi and BT simultaneously, instead of like, "hey your phone is probably busted, let us fix it!"
veroby said:
I knew that. I was just stating that these companies sometimes hire people whom know jack about what they're giving advice about.
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It may be what you meant, but it's not what you typed. You said "employees" (not specifying employed by whom) and started talking about PC/phone shops. So it made it sound like you thought the OP was quoting an employee from a (3rd party) phone retail shop.
In any case, the quality (or lack thereof) of the OnePlus customer/tech support staff (and their response message) is the whole point of the original post.
redpoint73 said:
It may be what you meant, but it's not what you typed. You said "employees" (not specifying employed by whom) and started talking about PC/phone shops. So it made it sound like you thought the OP was quoting an employee from a (3rd party) phone retail shop.
In any case, the quality (or lack thereof) of the OnePlus customer/tech support staff (and their response message) is the whole point of the original post.
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Ok, I'll try not to be funny next time.
It seems we won't have bluetooth 5 until Android O update androidcentral.com\bluetooth-5 (sorry, cannot share links yet)
Next update will include Bluetooth 5.0 Activation. As far as Android O, only saw one article stating that about Bluetooth 5.0 and O. LlabTooFer tweeted all the features of the next update and no mention of Android O. Also the latest base on Viper and Leedroid already have 5.0 Bluetooth support and are still Nougat. Don't know how well it works though not using those ROMS.
The original article I found was on htc blog (first link if you google "htc u11 bluetooth 5.0 htc blog"). There is an explanation why only Android O has this feature. Who to believe after all?
Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.
sergeymetallic said:
The original article I found was on htc blog (first link if you google "htc u11 bluetooth 5.0 htc blog"). There is an explanation why only Android O has this feature. Who to believe after all?
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ryanyz10 said:
Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.
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good info, looks like we'll be waiting longer
https://www.androidcentral.com/bluetooth-5
ryanyz10 said:
Android N doesn't natively support bluetooth 5, Android O will, hence the wait.
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So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.
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So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.
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Read the article I posted, bt 5 doesn't work on any device running Nougat even Samsung, O will support it.
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tkoreaper said:
So they can't do, or are unwilling to do, what Samsung did to get BT5 working? I think I remember hearing about issues with BT on the GS8's, but what little time I actually owned a GS8 it worked flawlessly and even connected to two devices at once with zero issues. Just seems like a cop-out on their part IMO.
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It's even mentioned in their article
When Android O, the next version of the Android OS becomes available, HTC U11 owners all over the world will be able to enjoy the benefits of Bluetooth 5.0.
We’re excited to be able to bring this announcement to HTC U11 customers around the world as we strive to continuously improve our customers’ mobile experience—we believe Bluetooth 5.0 compatibility helps do that.
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http://blog.htc.com/2017/08/htc-u11-ready-next-generation-connected-devices-bluetooth-5-0-support/
ShyamSasi said:
It's even mentioned in their article
http://blog.htc.com/2017/08/htc-u11-ready-next-generation-connected-devices-bluetooth-5-0-support/
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My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.
Also sony contributed it's LDAC codec to Android O, so we could enjoy high quality bluetooth headsets
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My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.
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I think that it might be two BT chips, unless someone knows otherwise
tkoreaper said:
My confusion came from all the early reports that I was reading that stated BT5 brings the ability to connect to 2 devices at the same time which is why I assumed Samsung had it fully working on the GS8's. Supposedly it's not specific to BT5 because BT4 is capable of doing it.
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How? I'd do it right now. We have this ability on our U11 already? I want.
Are you thinkin what Im thinkin? Wireless dolby surround with easy routing. Ornon dolby...simple 5.1. Why give dolby your endorsement. I been producing in 5.1 since my album mastered in Adobe Audition hit in late 2015. And Dolby got nothing to do with that effort.
kruc Ire said:
How? I'd do it right now. We have this ability on our U11 already? I want.
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That would be something that HTC would have to implement into the software.
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That would be something that HTC would have to implement into the software.
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I should be working on that. If the bt can send two channels of music it can be separated. And if 2 why not n channels. And why not choose. The stereo music has two channels. The 5.1 has 6 channels. So the size of a (wav) songfile is triple. My 26 song triple album was over 8 GB in size :good:
I am currently having two bluetooth lightbulbs. I see no reason not to get 4 more if bluetooth surround became available