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Ouya: $99 hackable Android game console

Just spotted this while browsing
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/2/31...e-android-game-console-designed-by-yves-behar
Yves Behar is in on it, he's the man behind the One Laptop Per Child initiative, which designed innovative, low costing laptops for children around the globe.
devkit shipping with every "console" too
looks promising

Here is the kickstarter project page. No mention of dev kits as it is already based on Android so you just need the SDK, eclipse, etc. They mention it being hackable and easily rooted so I asked about fastboot, NVflash/APX mode, and ADB access. I will post when they answer.
Keep in mind that it should be quite easy to port full AOSP Android to as well as Linux. With a multiboot solution this could be a very interesting device to work with.

Sounds like a pretty awesome console. But will it be able to be found at major retailers?
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skinzy98 said:
Sounds like a pretty awesome console. But will it be able to be found at major retailers?
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I am also curious if it will reach the mass market. No doubt that we at XDA will get some development going for it provided it does make it to market. I am interested in the fact that for the price of a Roku you have a device that does far more plus includes a lot of the same features. For gaming I find that at least current mobile games don't entice me the same way as my Wii and Xbox can...
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lol :laugh:

My big question is if the controller connects via bluetooth or a proprietary connection channel. If bluetooth, day one buy for me.

My only concern is if this will still be worth the money when it's released - I think they're aiming for March. By the time we should have a new Tegra platform, and probably a new major Android update

Is it upgradeable like a PC? Is there a modular design?
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found this, includes a video showing and explaining alot about it, also explains alot including the spec of the console
EDIT: whoops forgot the link!! lol
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console

I put in on the $1337 special. I am not a dev but think this thing will take off.

At this price, it's a total no brainer. You can use it to stream stuff, run emulators, etc.
I got in on the $99 offer.
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1cewolf said:
At this price, it's a total no brainer. You can use it to stream stuff, run emulators, etc.
I got in on the $99 offer.
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I wonder if the lack of an optical drive, and no sd card slot, won't restrict the appeal as eight gig can be easily used up. It's the only downside to a nice product.
Dave
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I wonder if the lack of an optical drive, and no sd card slot, won't restrict the appeal as eight gig can be easily used up. It's the only downside to a nice product.
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In saying that it does support USB 2.0 (from what I understand) so external HDDs might be an option

hevey said:
In saying that it does support USB 2.0 (from what I understand) so external HDDs might be an option
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https://twitter.com/playouya/status/222851486361726976
Stating that the USB can be used.

Very promising project.

It's almost at $2 million in it's first day. WOW. I pledged $99 for one. Looks like fun.

I put in for one as well. A well designed little competitor to the Roku / Apple TV / Nexus Q, with support for custom roms is just what I've been looking for. The fact that it comes with a controller and was designed by Yves Behar is just icing on the cake.
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I put $99 in.
I think this will take off and as here is a quote fro mthe kickstart page "For hackers: root it. Go ahead. Your warranty is safe. Even the hardware is hackable. Want to get inside? You’ll need a standard screwdriver and nothing more. Go to town. We have standard USB ports and Bluetooth, so you’ll even be able to create your own peripherals." So in my mind that means play store added. and with a tegra 3 and 1 gig of memory this will be a sweet addon for any hd tv

Another other nice project by google.

tjsooley said:
I put $99 in.
I think this will take off and as here is a quote fro mthe kickstart page "For hackers: root it. Go ahead. Your warranty is safe. Even the hardware is hackable. Want to get inside? You’ll need a standard screwdriver and nothing more. Go to town. We have standard USB ports and Bluetooth, so you’ll even be able to create your own peripherals." So in my mind that means play store added. and with a tegra 3 and 1 gig of memory this will be a sweet addon for any hd tv
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I think you're mistaken about play store as they specify ouya runs their own version of android not just an overlay (they specify games need porting because it is not normal android they will be using) and that they decide what apps can be approved.
For them to have sole access control of available apps suggests no play store functionality, as does the fact they are using their own variation of android and have stated that apps must be selected from the ouya app store.
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I think you're mistaken about play store as they specify ouya runs their own version of android not just an overlay (they specify games need porting because it is not normal android they will be using) and that they decide what apps can be approved.
For them to have sole access control of available apps suggests no play store functionality, as does the fact they are using their own variation of android and have stated that apps must be selected from the ouya app store.
Dave
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I know that. Its android 4.0 and they are hacker friendly. It should be easy for the xda community to get stuff like play and such working. Some unity even come pre rooted.
They do say there will be a store and there twitter tells of a sdk too.
Read this "Hackers welcome.
Have at it: It's easy to root (and rooting won't void your warranty). Everything opens with standard screws. Hardware hackers can create their own peripherals, and connect via USB or Bluetooth. You want our hardware design? Let us know. We might just give it to you. Surprise us!
Specifications:
Tegra3 quad-core processor
1GB RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad
Android 4.0 "

so is it certainly no hdmi or mhl ?

as the topic there are no way to connect from phone to tv?
the only way i assume is through the "Q" ?

goku16 said:
as the topic there are no way to connect from phone to tv?
the only way i assume is through the "Q" ?
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there is no HDMI type-D port.
There is no MHL support through USB that we know of.
They really want to sell the Q. I think it's a great device, and Made in the USA too.

sadly, i live in australia so and they dont sell the Q here yet, but... it would be nice to hook the phone up straight to the TV

I certainly hope the Q bombs or you'll probably see fewer devices with hdmi in the future.
And it's just streaming from google play store that's it. Not local files, I'm not sure about games, and say you want to use your tablet as a barebones pc for a spare room and just browse the web, email etc on your hd tv. I don't believe you can do those things with the Q.
So tell me, why is worth it to lose the above for 300 bucks? So I have more audio outputs and friends can queue their music from the cloud?
Cause google knows if hdmi was included, most people would say this is good enough and wouldn't bother with the Q. Or am I missing something magical this device does?

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Note lack of anything mentioning HDMI or MHL.
This is a cheap device, Asus\Google probably didn't want to pay the licensing fees.

this is holding me back a little before pre-order it
damn it

Keep your fingers crossed for products that can mirror the screen to the TV using WIFI. xBounds comes to mind. that would be even better than a cable hooked up to the tv as those cables are usually not that long.

But with wifi, i must have a tv-ethernet port
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As far as I know Asus has never had MHL on one of their devices.
Samsung yes (Think Nexus). Asus no (Think Nexus 7).

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But with wifi, i must have a tv-ethernet port
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no. there is a wifi dongle that plugs into the hdmi port of the TV. the nexus would sent the data to the dongle which converts it to a TV signal.
its actually quite genius if you ask me, but not quite sure why its not available yet?

Does Miracast Require Dual Band Wifi?

Miracast is missing from Nexus 7's Android 4.2 release and we are all sad... and now you are seeing people say that Miracast will never come to Nexus 7 because it doesn't have Dual band wireless which is required.
Well I don't believe that Miracast requires Dual Band and here is why (good intro right?.. I wrote it myself)
Quoted from the Miracast whitepaper:
To be certified for Miracast, a device must also be Wi-Fi CERTIFIED for:
• Wi-Fi CERTIFIED n
• WPA2
• Wi-Fi Direct
• WMM
• Wi-Fi Protected Setup
While it is expected that TDLS certification will be commonly pursued for Miracast–certified devices, it is an optional component of the Miracast certification process. Miracast and TDLS are complementary, and vendors seeking Miracast certification for their products have the flexibility to choose whether they want to support TDLS.
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The only thing I see see in the required list that would possibly have a bandwidth requirement would be Wi-Fi Direct (please correct me if i'm wrong) and Wi-Fi Direct doesn't require 5Ghz
Quoted from Wifi Alliance's FAQ page (http://www.wi-fi.org/knowledge-cent...-wi-fi-direct-certification-program-work-both):
Does the specification underlying the Wi-Fi Direct certification program work on both frequency bands?
Yes, the specification underlying the Wi-Fi Direct certification program supports operation in both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz. Devices operating in the 2.4 GHz frequency band only and devices operating in both the 2.4GHz and 5 GHz frequency bands can be certified under the Wi-Fi Direct program. Not all Wi-Fi Direct-certified devices will support both frequency bands, however, so you should check which bands your devices support.
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The TDLS Comment is interesting however as it does deal with Dual Band devices (see below). But again TDLS is optional for Miracast.
Quoted from TDLS Whitepaper (https://www.wi-fi.org/sites/default/files/uploads/20120808 TDLS White Paper FINAL.pdf):
In addition, TDLS also provides support for devices to negotiate an alternative channel. For example, if the two TDLS-linked devices are dual-band they may choose to dynamically switch to a 40MHz 802.11n channel in the 5 GHz band. The net result is a significant improvement in performance, latency and network capacity.
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It may perform like crap or have to be set to a hidiously small resolution (which could explain why Google decided to not include it off the bat) but there seems to be no reason why it won't work once some custom ROMs/APKs come out for it... Deep breath everybody.
Also, I'm a newb here and can only post every 5 mins till I get some "Thank-Love." If this helped anyone I'd sure appreciate a thumbs up.

To add to this, esrlabs made their own variant of miracast called android transporter and it's only currently for the nexus 7. It doesn't have sound current as it was just a tech demo.

sark666 said:
To add to this, esrlabs made their own variant of miracast called android transporter and it's only currently for the nexus 7. It doesn't have sound current as it was just a tech demo.
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would love to see this functionality built into cyanogen eventually...
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OP sounds right to me. Dual band is just nice to have because you could hypothetically segment Miracast from non-Miracast traffic. It's not necessary so I can imagine the N7 will support Miracast in due time.

The more I think of it, the major rom builder may shy away from building miracast into future builds for fear of infringement. Not sure how its all licensed but its very likely that the miracast portion is proprietary.
Our best hope may come from independent ports. Time will tell.
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ezieger said:
The more I think of it, the major rom builder may shy away from building miracast into future builds for fear of infringement. Not sure how its all licensed but its very likely that the miracast portion is proprietary.
Our best hope may come from independent ports. Time will tell.
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I don't think so, Miracast is an open standard by the Wi-Fi Alliance. It probably costs money to be Miracast certified but ROM builders don't care about that.
Miracast is built into the 4.2 firmware for N4 but not yet N7 and N10. Why is that? Look to to the quote below from the Miracast wikipedia page.
Miracast software needs low level access to hardware supporting Wi-Fi Direct, there is no portable Wi-Fi Direct API for different SoCs and platforms. The lack of a single Application Programming Interface compatible with different Wi-Fi Direct supported hardware platforms makes it difficult for software developers to design portable Miracast Source or Sink applications.
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I think it will just take some time. Less than six months, hopefully.

ezieger said:
The only thing I see see in the required list that would possibly have a bandwidth requirement would be Wi-Fi Direct (please correct me if i'm wrong) and Wi-Fi Direct doesn't require 5Ghz
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You are right Wi-Fi Direct doesn't require 5GHz. I have the PTV3000 and I am stuck on my Nexus 7 at the same point I am with my 3 month old ASUS laptop with 3rd Gen Ivy Bridge i5. My laptop has a Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 wireless network chip. The Atheros is only 2.4 GHz but the AR9485 also includes 150 Mbps Data Rate, Atheros Direct ConnectTM peer-to-peer technology and is Wi-Fi Alliance CERTIFIED.
Intel's site is full of people ticked off that lost Wi-Di when they upgraded from Windows 7 to 8 that stopped working on their PTV2000/3000. I didn't get the PTV3000 before I upgraded to Windows 8 so I was doing a lot of research on my AR9485 that as I said is only 2.4 GHz.
So now I have a PTV3000, Nexus 7 and Laptop that none of them play together.

Netgear has sold so many of these damn ptv3000s on the basis of it being precertified for miracast and the expectation that the N7 would be. I'd love to see the sales numbers. Betting they spiked in the last two weeks and are back to almost nada. The whole situation is pretty frustrating.
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Just to confirm, the ptv3000 is not certified for miracast? Doesn't it advertise that? I was going to pick one up if I saw one cheap (although with n7 currently not having miracast my interest has waned) but if it definitely doesn't I'll look elsewhere.

The ptv3000 is pre-certified. It needs a firmware update to be miracast. As of right now it doesn't even work with an N4. Best to just not buy anything until the smoke settles. Unless it's a crazy good deal... lol
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ezieger said:
The ptv3000 is pre-certified. It needs a firmware update to be miracast. As of right now it doesn't even work with an N4. Best to just not buy anything until the smoke settles. Unless it's a crazy good deal... lol
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It works with Galaxy S3

innov8ion said:
It works with Galaxy S3
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Can you offer a sample? Video, photos, etc.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...allshare-cast-netgear-ptv3000-w-miracast.html

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http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...allshare-cast-netgear-ptv3000-w-miracast.html
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The video doesn't seem to be pulling up on my screen
seriously. no video, no believe.

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The video doesn't seem to be pulling up on my screen
seriously. no video, no believe.
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Ask that guy. I'm skeptical too.

miracast not working with asus infinity tf700 either, that has tye
So, after the last firmware update, my Samsung s3 can project to ptv3000 ( though i had to use triangle away on my rooted s3 first). However, no such luck wih my asus inffinty tf700, which has the same isue as nexus 7 -stuck on 2.4ghz... i read somewhere that miracast requires 2.4 ghz to connct and 5 ghz to screencast. This might be true as my tf700 does show connected sometimes, but does not creencast. Asus tech support do not confirm or deny this.
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So, after the last firmware update, my Samsung s3 can project to ptv3000 ( though i had to use triangle away on my rooted s3 first). However, no such luck wih my asus inffinty tf700, which has the same isue as nexus 7 -stuck on 2.4ghz... i read somewhere that miracast requires 2.4 ghz to connct and 5 ghz to screencast. This might be true as my tf700 does show connected sometimes, but does not creencast. Asus tech support do not confirm or deny this.

Wi fi direct 5 ghz
Does anybody knows if i use wi fi direct with 5ghz , intead of 2.4 ghz, could it reduce the lag while playing fast games like need for speed?
I have a MOTO X, so the only way to see the phine screen on tv is wifi direct or miracast

[Q] How do I share my screen on to my HDTV?

Well I read so many threads about it but it got complicated after the 4th sentence and I don't understand a thing.
I have 1080p LG HDTV 37LD420-ZA bought in 2010. I have no idea about Miracast, what it is or do I have it. Can I even set up this stream or?
Thanks
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Holy crap I swear the lack of information on miracast will be its demise. Its seriously pathetic that one can't even simply search for 'how to use miracast' and find simple answers. Miracast is seriously the equivalent to a unicorn at this point.
Somebody PLEASE prove me wrong. Its my most anticipated feature of 4.2.

What you just said is completely right. I tried many sources but nothing :/
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JavaJunkay said:
Well I read so many threads about it but it got complicated after the 4th sentence and I don't understand a thing.
I have 1080p LG HDTV 37LD420-ZA bought in 2010. I have no idea about Miracast, what it is or do I have it. Can I even set up this stream or?
Thanks
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Bubble up player is great to stream from the tablet..
I use it because you can pick the device where the files are at. Say on a network computer share folder. Stream them thru the tablet to a Tv on the same network..
You can also select where the video is rendered .. Local ON THE SHARE Device or on the ..
MY Samsung shows up as a DLNA /Media device on all my networked devices . Its great feature..
YOU just have to play with the settings to find what works best with your tv and network shares.. There is also a SAMSUNG ALL SHARE App and program for windows pcs. that does NOT Require a samsung device..
As far as miracast who knows if or when....

The thing is, I don't want just DLNA playing to another device/computer/television. I want mirroring. I want exactly what Miracast is supposed to give me. And even now if you Google how to use Miracast you will find *nothing* about actually *how* to use it. You see a whole bunch of hype about people saying how it's going to beat AirPlay and how it's the best thing since sliced bread -- yet nobody has actually used it.
It's appalling how biased people can be without any evidence of the feature working (short of a video given to us by the friggin manufacturer). I feel like I purchased an iDevice. This feature is a ghost.

Exactly, feels like there are more Andro Sheep than iSheep. For now, 4.2 only brought amazing Bluetooth-NFC connectivity. As well as some UI stuff which there are plenty of custom on Android.
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What good is it without dongles easily Googlingable? I G+'d a collection of certified devices a while before 4.2. Ain't been able to find a one. And Samsung's AllShare Hub thing wasn't one of them.

Spidey01 said:
What good is it without dongles easily Googlingable? I G+'d a collection of certified devices a while before 4.2. Ain't been able to find a one. And Samsung's AllShare Hub thing wasn't one of them.
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Well I, for one, wouldn't even be connecting it to a TV. My home theater PC, however, should easily be able to have some sort of software running on it that would be able to receive the signal. The problem is that the functionality is only half-baked at this time no matter where you look.
And without any device currently on the market, how can people swear by it?

Before we all start a witch hunt, remember miracast is still in development. You can't have something that hasn't had an official release yet.
Android Central has had a few articles on it, so far there are no official streaming devices for it (although some companies have claimed their upcoming streaming devices will support it).
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Our best hope is that Google enables Miracast in a future update, and that compliant Miracast devices are released. I'm not holding my breath, since I would have thought that they would have included it with the 4.2 update if they planned on including it at all. I could be wrong of course. It's still early days with Miracast. Maybe it can be enabled via custom ROMs.
It would have been awesome to be able to stream games to my TV. Along with a bluetooth connected PS3 controller it really could have been an awesome experience.

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Our best hope is that Google enables Miracast in a future update, and that compliant Miracast devices are released. I'm not holding my breath, since I would have thought that they would have included it with the 4.2 update if they planned on including it at all. I could be wrong of course. It's still early days with Miracast. Maybe it can be enabled via custom ROMs.
It would have been awesome to be able to stream games to my TV. Along with a bluetooth connected PS3 controller it really could have been an awesome experience.
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EXACTLY.
But I thought this *was* enabled by 4.2...? What have we been reading about Miracast in 4.2 then?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411555,00.asp
http://www.slashgear.com/how-does-android-4-2-jelly-bean-wireless-display-mirroring-work-29254650/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/02/asus_pledges_android_update_for_nexus_7/
Is this all just for the Nexus 4? All of the links above specifically say it's for the Nexus 7.

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EXACTLY.
But I thought this *was* enabled by 4.2...? What have we been reading about Miracast in 4.2 then?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411555,00.asp
http://www.slashgear.com/how-does-android-4-2-jelly-bean-wireless-display-mirroring-work-29254650/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/02/asus_pledges_android_update_for_nexus_7/
Is this all just for the Nexus 4? All of the links above specifically say it's for the Nexus 7.
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Lazy, bad reporting.

They don't mention the 7 in the article, just the 10 and 4. I don't mind living without mirroring (my phone has MHL, if I ever bother to buy the adapter), but the wireless mirroring was a selling point on this tablet for me, even if I have to go custom to enable it.
As a filmmaking student, the capability to control and mirror screens on, say, a movie set, or a classroom, without plugging everything up just so, sounds pretty sweet. And I'm personally just tired of collecting single-use cables and adapters.
Patience, however, is a virtue, and I am willing to wait for Google to get off their asses once the mob realizes the shortchanges they're giving us. -Ara
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What I don't understand is why did they hype it so much? From what I understood, no ones TV even supports this yet. Am I supposed to buy a new TV for this feature?
And I also don't understand, how is N7 not mentioned in those articles? Official Miracast video says that this is going to be enabled for NVIDIA Tegra 3 devices. Only N7 has Tegra 3, N4 and N10 both have different stuff inside.
This thing lacks so much information.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Yeah, prob a mistake to hype it so much. I mean, wait until the ecosystem is ready. Airplay has been out for so long it seems. Get off your asses, Google!

any devolopment?
Any devolopment on this? I just searched for an hour and only came up with articles on it, no downloads or hardware..

Any possible way to mirror Nexus 7 to HDTV?

Raspberry Pi but I heard it's laggy. I
No mhl hdmi
Are we out of luck?? Any options?

berardi said:
Raspberry Pi but I heard it's laggy. I
No mhl hdmi
Are we out of luck?? Any options?
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I have always wanted to try out a raspberry pi or to see a good video breakdown of mirroring the display. Hopefully the Miracast standard will take off but I heard you can't be connected to WiFi and use miracast at the same time
I would also like to know some options
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Has anyone made progress geting Nexus 7 mirroring working to a TV/Monitor?
I feel this tablet is sooooooo close to PERFECT except for this one thing...

no mirroring on Nexus 7
Hello there, this is the first time i reply. I have my Nexus 7 it's perfect in many ways but this is an epic fail. I have made a little research and i don't see any way to mirror th N7 exept the Raspberry pi way, I don't get why Google would blocked their first tablet from mirroring if it has everything to do it. I hope someone can make an easy solution soon.

I started this thread. I found some links that show android mirroring. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103505

jetguy35 said:
I started this thread. I found some links that show android mirroring. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103505
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very cool. did you get to talk to anyone who had it working and any comments on it?

Walkin_mn said:
Hello there, this is the first time i reply. I have my Nexus 7 it's perfect in many ways but this is an epic fail. I have made a little research and i don't see any way to mirror th N7 exept the Raspberry pi way, I don't get why Google would blocked their first tablet from mirroring if it has everything to do it. I hope someone can make an easy solution soon.
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I don't think that "didn't implement" means the same thing as "blocked". OTOH, I never saw the (apparently short-lived) marketing claims by Google that said the N7 would do it.
This post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34464132&postcount=4
seems to suggest that there may be specific hardware performance limitations that make it improbable on the N7.
There are some threads on XDA (& other places too) where folks talk about their experiences attempting either WiDi or Miracast connection with the N4/N7/N10.
I haven't seen any reports of success with either on the N7... despite the curious WiDi option in the display settings in stock 4.2.1 on the N7... what's it for?
I was aware of all this prior to my purchase, but bought the N7 anyway. I'm still hopeful that something will happen in a future update; Miracast is still relatively new... Netgear is shipping their 3rd PTV device, and they are not yet Miracast certified.
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