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Browser speed compared to iphone browser

Hi all,
Can someone try the web version of vimeo (http://vimeo.com) and compare the speed to iphone browser? Mine seem terribly slower than the iphone's browser, especially the transition between pages.
I'm running the cyanogen room 5.0.5.3 if that makes any different.
thanks.

Just compared it with my Co workers iPhone. My browser us quicker. I'm on Enomther's ROM if that helps.

rjhay22 said:
Just compared it with my Co workers iPhone. My browser us quicker. I'm on Enomther's ROM if that helps.
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Interesting. Is it a smooth transition? I flashed the Enomther's room to see what's up. The transition is still not as smooth as on the iPhone browser.
I tried the website on the iPod Touch 3G btw.

Cyanogen changed the javascript engine, this in the changelog:
* Disable V8 in Webkit and switch back to JSC due to app incompatibilities
V8 was apparently much faster, so if that site is javascript heavy.
It stemmed from some app called Epocrates not working with V8.
I'd rather have V8 if you ask me, the last version to have it was 5.0.5.1-N1

DHD/INSPIRE4G screen frame rate?

something's buggin' me about the htc screen.
it seems like it operates on low frame rate. for example 30FPS instead of 60FPS
like it's not lagging or anything, quite the contrary, i have a MIUI rom and it's freaking fast, but it feels not as smooth as on other devices like let's say, an iPhone 4.
do you get me? or am i crazy?
is there a way to check this kind of thing? any documentation?
is it supposed to run at 60FPS?

I know what you are talking about...and it kinda bugged me at first too. One thing I can tell you for sure is that if you use an alt skin like Safari HD or even Slate...you see that frame rate jump back up and become iphone-ishly smooth again.
Not sure why some skins are smoother than others...but that seems to be the case.

Test it with a GOOD live wallpaper.
Everyapp can define it's max FPS. Some LVW usually do so, to save battery.
MIUI Launcher might also be doing it. BTW, did you enable enhanced graphics ?

I think it may just be the launcher. When you switch to an alt like Launcherpro, ADW or GO, it become much smoother. (Miui icons are still kept, except a few miui widgets are lost such as the folders)
LWPs also lag the launcher alot regardless of how simple they are...
Other than actual fps lag, i dont see any lag with the screen at all...
Miui settings is always kinda laggy, im not too sure how to fix that, but if you don't care about looks, you could get Cyanogenmod - Its still slightly themeable, but doesnt have the miui icon backgrounds

thanks daedric. i disabled enhanced graphics and it runs way smoother now.
but now the colors band a little. well, you can't have it all.
maybe i'll try CM7.

Leedroid v3.2.1 which is GB and sense 2.1, this specific version runs at locked 60fps, also any GB Rom with sense 2.1 will run at 60fps once the smoothness patch is applied (search in the development section) we are still working on locking the sense 3 launcher to 60fps
CM7 should be 60 but depends on the launcher, go launcher and launcher pro are 60fps, go launcher more stable in smoothness, if you want stable and locked 60 with zero bugs you won't find better then Leedroid v3.2.1, members in the leedroid thread will help you find it

Does touchwiz 4 have hardware acceleration?

Is the interface and browser smooth like the ipad? I ask because i tried out a couple of stock android tabs like the sony s and xoom at a store and their scrolling and zooming was quite laggy compared to the ipad, same goes for the browser.

The whole issue about the unsmooth scrolling is much better on 3.2 ROMs, like for example Task650 GalaxyTask ROM.
It isn't entirely gone, but I hope this will come with Ice Cream Sandwich/Android 4.0.
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And to answer your questions: Yes, apart from occasional stuttering, it is as smooth as the iPad. Custom ROM/TouchScreenTune App do the trick for me.

Most of the apps in the system support H.W acceleration (browser , etc ) but the UI itself doesn't support it (it will come in ICS ) like the main launcher and the rotation and translations in the system that is why it shutters allot when using live wallpapers that is because the load is n the processor it self not on the gpu but ICS should fix all this issues, as i noticed even alpha builds are smoother than honeycomb

Android will always have more "stuttering" than the ipad. It's pretty simple to imagine why: on an ipad, all there is is a bunch of little standard sized icons. They don't display information, they don't change, they don't move or supply anything more than a link to open your app. They're just little cached images and so the whole interface moves smoothly because there's nothing to see, no work for the processor. Also, the screen is low resolution (1024x768), so there's less pixels to move around.
Android on the other hand has widgets that change and display information. They are not standardized and are often resizable. The whole interface is far more complex than the ipad. And the screen is higher resolution (1200x800) so there's more pixels.
So, sure, if "smooth scrolling of the homescreen" is your top priority, I'd say go with an ipad. It will always be simple and smooth. Emphasis on the simple.
If, on the other hand, you want customizability and information without having to open your apps, and a little jerkiness in the homescreen is OK with you, get an android tab.
Last bit: android allows you to install a different launcher (that's part of what I mean by "customizability"). ADW EX is very smooth...

Many of the roms on this forum can give you HW acceleration.

All i want is a silky smooth browser like the ipad/iphone. Tried android 2.2, 2.3,3.0,3,1,3.2, sense 3.0, sense 3.5, wp7, wp 7.5 NONE I REPEAT NONE can come close to the consistent smoothness of the safari browser. Is there a browser in the android market that can come close, cause i tried opera and its still not as smooth. Hope ICS will make it so.

Safari for ipad /iphone doesn't have flash so for sure it will be smoother , try opera mini it doesn't have flash so it shuld be faster

I've found that hardware acceleration is much smoother without TW. I'm running AOSP 3.2.2 (Overcome ROM) and have not noticed any lag and even noticed scrolling in say, Music, to not jump at all. Smoother than the iPad for sure.

I'm also verry happy with the Launcher in Overcome

Fasty12 said:
All i want is a silky smooth browser like the ipad/iphone. Tried android 2.2, 2.3,3.0,3,1,3.2, sense 3.0, sense 3.5, wp7, wp 7.5 NONE I REPEAT NONE can come close to the consistent smoothness of the safari browser. Is there a browser in the android market that can come close, cause i tried opera and its still not as smooth. Hope ICS will make it so.
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I use dolphin HD with flash loading on demand. It is the best browser I've used on any device so far.
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otaku1984 said:
I've found that hardware acceleration is much smoother without TW. I'm running AOSP 3.2.2 (Overcome ROM) and have not noticed any lag and even noticed scrolling in say, Music, to not jump at all. Smoother than the iPad for sure.
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My experience is exactly the opposite. Touchwiz is so smooth and fluid in ways that regular honeycomb can't touch. The typind lag in the browser in stock honeycomb was enough to ruin the whole experience.
The only overcome rom I see is a touchwiz rom, where is this aosp overcome rom? I'll check it out on the off chance it is better than stock android.

otaku1984 said:
I've found that hardware acceleration is much smoother without TW. I'm running AOSP 3.2.2 (Overcome ROM) and have not noticed any lag and even noticed scrolling in say, Music, to not jump at all. Smoother than the iPad for sure.
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Where did you get Overcome AOSP ROM and that too 3.2.2
It is still TW. Right?

If any of you are deciding what mod to use..

Just my two cents, but I would strongly advise using Cassie's XtraLiteRom KKA ThunderBolted in the development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365587
I've used Sheep ROM, e.t.c.. and none of them are as fast, stable, or complete as this ROM. It is absolutely awesome. I'll leave the rest up to you, but I figured I would help some of you by pointing towards this ROM.
Give it a go and you won't look back, just make sure you follow the installation process set out!
EDIT: Correction: I meant to say ROM and not MOD in the title - that's what happens if you play too much Skyrim! ''If any of you are deciding what ROM to use..''

How is this one with multitasking? I've played around with Supercharged script on my own and I loved it except it kept closing the apps I was using the moment i put them in the background. Kinda annoying, could you do a quick check (preferably with something CPU/RAM intensive like 3D game or browser with many tabs)??? I'd be really grateful, I'm too lazy to flash a ROM just to get disappointed...

Well, so far so good. Seems perfect.
An issue I've had with other ROM's, is that it always lags in the browser, so far this one doesn't. Over all it feels nippier and smoother, all I can say is try it and see what you think

is that the stock browser, or other browsers?
can you run a test with
- 3rd party browsers (dolphin, miren)
- 3rd party dialers (rocketdial, for eg)
- go launcher ex
would appreciate it if you could give the results, thanks!

What NativeSD android for games ?

What is the best NativeSD android rom I can use for games ? Currently I'm with Dorimanx high end rom, android 2.3.7 but performance is not good. NFS Most wanted lags badly.

There is no "best rom". And personally I didn't see any difference between NativeSD and NAND. So basically, use any HWA enabled ROM and you should be good to go.

Any ICS or JB rom because of hardware acceleration.
I recommend tytung's cm9 rom, you will gain much in gaming performance, but don't expect any miracles in really demanding games such as new NFS.

nontryer said:
Any ICS or JB rom because of hardware acceleration.
I recommend tytung's cm9 rom, you will gain much in gaming performance, but don't expect any miracles in really demanding games such as new NFS.
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Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.

EmZvr said:
Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.
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He means this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860

EmZvr said:
Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.
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Marvlesz above me has pointed you to the right direction.
As for the ROM you installed, i don't know, never tried it. You could try both of them to see which one fits you better.
Overall performance between GB and ICS should be pretty close, maybe a bit better on GB builds because it's less resource hungry, but on ICS you get some nice stuff like much better gaming performance, smoother web browsing + more.

Installed it. NFS Most Wanted works full speed now or at least a lot better than gingerbread. But again overall performance is not so good. More waiting for menus to show. Not so fluid. Dormanx rom is more fluid and faster with immediate loadings of every app. isn't it there a similar rom to dorimanx with hwa

There is no HWA on Gingerbread, we are very sorry for your disappointment. However, you may like to have a look at our selection of new devices, which have the fluidity of Gingerbread AND the performance of ICS/Jb.
^That's a joke.

Oh well, no games for me then I'm sure I wouldn't play them anyway but I like everything to work properly on my phone. I reverted back to dorimanx rom, thanks for the advices.
I will look at your selection of new devices probably when Ubuntu for phones is out :

Yeah, I personally also find ICS and above slower for everyday use than GB but I just love web browsing with HWA and the Holo UI of JB (not to mention Google Now) so I don't think I'm going to go back to GB any time soon.