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I'm sorry, I bet you get a million of these a day. But I'm lost.

So, I've been tinkering for the last day or so and finally understand rooting the phone and flashing zips, but that's about the extent of what I've learned. So far I rooted it, set it up with Darchdroid 2.8, and set up SetCPU which may or may not be doing anything at all. Anyhow, there are a TON of ROMs out there and I see mention of "kernels" which make the phone even faster? This is the stuff that confuses me. I like Darchdroid because it gets rid of Sense (well, really just cus I can choose how many screens I want to use), but I miss my HTC widgets and all that and the phone is kinda empty and boring now (lots of apps to replace).
Basically was just wondering if anyone would mind giving me the rundown on some of this. I want to use the most compatible 1) version, rom, kernel, and clock speeds to attain a faster, more efficient phone. Darchdroid is faster but I dunno if it can be combined with kernels very well, and all that jazz.
Basically just very lost, talk to me like a third grader please.

"T-t-t-TODAY JUNIOR!" (quote from Billy Madison movie, when he's in the 3rd grade)
If you miss HTC Sense and all those widgets, etc., I suggest going back to one of 3 ROMs...
nfinitefx Stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703267
ZenHeroFX: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731951
ZenEXP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666967
---newest version of ZenEXP at this post: http://zenroms.com/content/download-zenexp-0-9-7/
All 3 are very stable and smooth versions of Sense ROMs.
This is the OC kernel you should use with any of those: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750170
As for setcpu settings, it will just be trial and error to determine what works best and smoothest with your particular phone. All of us here are probably using slighty different settings that fit best with our preferences and usage. Just know that not all phones can boot at OC speeds, so if you flash an OC kernel and get a bootloop, it probably means your phone can't handle it.
Just FYI, you can install a free launcher from the Market that will let you customize your number of home screens. I know Launcher Pro and ADW Launcher both have this feature and are a couple of the more popular ones. And they'll work in any ROM.
Good luck.

[Q] Speed with the 3.0 Roms

Hey guys I have been trying to work with the 3.0 Sense roms to find the best one for me, my big issue is speed, man they really lag on my phone. Is there anything that I can do to boost speed, wish I could just have a few of the 3.0 things and keep the old stuff for reliability and speed. Any help would be cool including what rom to run and how to make it fast!

what things are you wanting to keep from the 3.0?

Have you tried Synergy? 2.1 with some 3.0 elements and I didn't have any of said issues. Was as close to the 'next step' without any deal breaking issues. You could also run the field of the 'newer' Sense ROMs until you settle, as some might not play nicely.
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What kind of slowness/lag are you experiencing? If it's mostly when switching from one task to another, you may be limited by memory. For example, if you find the launcher is slow to come back up, it may be getting killed while you run something else.
I just finished a few days each on MikG and Synergy. That was after a long time on CM7 and then various FroYo Sense ROMs before that. My experience on MikG/Synergy was that it generally did things well when they were in the foreground. But I couldn't multitask at all. If I was listening to music and I opened up Gmail, for example, the music app would almost always get killed. Or coming back to a browser window would be slow, because it had to reload the page instead of still having it in memory. And that's on a Hybrid 2.1/3.0 ROM. I actually do like a lot of the Sense parts, but I just couldn't live with that.
I tried some of the RAM optimization scripts, and they didn't help for my usage patterns. Basically I think we're approaching the limit of what can be done with 512MB of RAM.

They pretty much all lagged for me as well but not this one..i REALLy love it.
http://supersonichtcevo.blogspot.com/2011/06/sense-30-with-gingerbread-viruss-b14.html

Thanks guys I think your right I think we are close to the best the phone can do and that is that, I did find one from a guy saying its the best rom out, seems really fast but has some bugs, I may hang in there with him and see if he can get them ironed out.

I say try synergy. I use it and I experience very little lag with it.

Yeah, I have tried most of all of them too. I found a little lag in most of them except for Synergy RC2. It has been completely awesome. Battery life is amazing and even after I filled my homescreens full of widgets and icons its still smooth as butter. I never get any lag anymore. Its worth a try and it has so many customizations you can add to it unlike any other rom. Try Synergy RC2. You can't go wrong.

King's kingdom Rom should fit the bill for you. Exceptionally fast. I recommend the stock odex version.
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taadow1030 said:
King's kingdom Rom should fit the bill for you. Exceptionally fast. I recommend the stock odex version.
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He's right ya know. Even with a theme over it , this ROM is flawlessly smooth and fast.

[Q] ROM Comparison - Is there a side by side?

Has anyone done a side by side comparison of the ROMs available for the MT4G?
I have been reading forum after forum and blog after blog, but most are so technical I'm just not getting the basic idea of what each ROM has to offer.
I see CM7 based ones and MIUI based ones, Sense based ones and Iced Glacier and it is all very confusing. I really just want to know a bottom line of what comes in it and what it looks like. How will it be different then the stock ROM in my phone now?
I don't have the know-how and experience of a developer but I'm not computer illiterate either.
I have however rooted my phone for the first time just a few days ago and want to do it right and make sure I am getting what I am looking for without losing anything in the process. Which is basically, no more TMo bloatware, faster CPU, longer battery life, customizable fonts, colors, sounds, etc and the ability to take screen shots.
I don't use the Sense and basic apps that came on the phone, I have LauncherPro and use Folder Organizer for my home screens, Dolphin HD for browsing, SwiftKey X as a keyboard, Handcent for SMS, Gmail for email, Astro for files, Doubletwist for media and am in the process of looking for a replacement for the Gallery. And I want to keep all of my customizations in those as well if possible.
This can all be so overwhelming because there is just sooo much info out there on the subject and so many different opinions and ways to do things. So any help or advice that can make the 'choosing a ROM' process a little easier will be so greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!
Thanks!
Jen
PS
Oh and let's not forget that apparently some ROMs then seem to have their own little differences between Stable, Experimental and Nightly...??? Someone please simplify for me! This root & rom noob greatly appreciates your patience and help.

IMO you should just go on a flashing spree and see which ones you like best, AOSP roms will probably have the best battery life vs sense based roms by a few hours.
But for me I like sense's integrated interface and the camera/gallery. I take a lot of pictures and the camera that comes with virtuous unity is awesome + the gallery that comes with it with it's effects (i know there are apps that do that too but the effects done by this gallery is pretty amazing)
Anyways if you're flashing a new rom you will have to redo your customization. Backup your apps using titanium backup or mybackup root or pro. (mybackup seems to be easiest to restore apps but if using titanium restore APP only because restoring data will sometimes cause problems)
Every ROM is better than stock.
Now the Roms:
Sense rom: Try Virtuous Unity first, it's amazing and my daily driver if you can get version 1.29 it seems to be more stable, that's what i'm on.
1.31 supposedly has draining issues for a few.
Looks: it's based off sensation, it's actually really amazing.
Miui rom: I haven't try this YET.. but if you like the iphone UI try this out
CM7/AOSP: I say start out with Royalginger, you can't go wrong with it, it's the rom that got me into this flashing craze in the first place. Think of it as CM7 supercharged.
i'm actually gonna try faux aosp next.
Looks:think smooth and quick
iced glaciers: no comment i think they're based off froyo? not sure.
There are also those gingerbread leaked roms. They're basically the new gingerbread 2.3.4 OS for mytouch4g with special modifications.
Note you should let the rom settle in a couple days to determine the battery usage of it.
If you're planning to flash CM7 you should just stick with the stable ones as you're new to this. think experimental builds as Beta and nightlies are alpha.
I switch around royalginger and virtuous unity can't go wrong with those. I just love virtuous unity camera and gallery.
every app you're using can be installed in any of the roms so don't worry about that. They'll look the same on each rom. You can make it look like what you're using now too plus it'll run quicker and smoother... and longer.
I suggest trying out Opera browser vs Dolphin, i was using dolphin but found that opera is much smoother. except i do like some of dolphin's feature.
no comments on keyboards because i only use swype 3.7 (it's swype + touch input keyboards together!)
I started out using handcent but found gosms quicker
quickpic and 3dgallery are popular choices.
oh when using each rom remember to check the APN in setting>wireless>mobile networks> access point names and see if it's on tmobile and not on anything else. I actually suggest deleting any other listed APNs
happy flashing!

That's some great info, Teo, and exactly the kind of input I'm looking for. Thanks!

Sorraia3 said:
That's some great info, Teo, and exactly the kind of input I'm looking for. Thanks!
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You should look at some youtube videos. That should give you a clear idea of what each ROM has to offer.

mackster248 said:
You should look at some youtube videos. That should give you a clear idea of what each ROM has to offer.
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Good idea, Mackster. I'll do that. Thanks!

I have been running miui and virtuous unity for some time now. While sense does have some nice eye candy, you cant go wrong with the kind of battery life and speed you can get aosp. The fastest rom i have tried to date is miui, I have not gotten higher quadrant scores on any other rom and i have tried them all. With the new phone i also recommend that you get familiar with radios and kernels too. Radios can make a big difference with battery life, cell reception and data speeds. Try out the panache radio, it seems to work best for me.

Check out the ROMs listed in the Resource bible. They are divided by android version and subdivided by base (aosp, sense, and miui.)
I dont have a side by side comparison since there are over 50 ROMS listed however I did start a POLL this month in the Resource Bible so you can view the results and see what ROMs others prefer.

Double post....

Thank you, junkie. I will check out both of those and will definitely start researching radios.
Thanks, Halfcalf... I will check out the bible and Great idea with the poll! It will be a big help seeing which are the more popular ones to help narrow it down. I definitely don't want to flash 50 different roms trying to decide. Lol

forgot to mention i think miui, latest cm7 nighly, virtuous unity all have a native screenshot thing. royalginger doesn't. not sure about faux

Teo032 said:
forgot to mention i think miui, latest cm7 nighly, virtuous unity all have a native screenshot thing. royalginger doesn't. not sure about faux
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Faux 1.29 doesn't have a native screenshot. It does support the market ones fine though. Also you can get some ridiculous speed and battery life on that ROM with well-thought SetCpu profiles.

Considerations......

Hi to all, i premise that i love stock look and i want my GNote look like a GNote, not another phone, so i'm not intersted to roms with too much visual mods.
I come from a Galaxy S2 from day1 and i flashed it with many many roms and every time i flashed new rom it was full of modded apk and tricks very usefull. Now i switched to a Note and i'm very happy with it but after tried some cooked roms i came to the conclusion that IN MY OPINION no roms can offer more than a rooted stock rom maybe with jkay mods and unused apps removed or freezed with Titanium. Why i say this? Simply because latest Notes cooked Rom doesn't offer what is important for me and i think for other users: browser with user agent in settings, phone without ascending ringtone and noise filter off by default etc. In major cooked rom i read in description: tweaked this tweaked that but i see no real speed improvement in comparison to a (rooted) stock rom where all GNote app works and not like i read in cooked rom's comment: "this app doesnt work properly, my phone suffer random reboots, that app give me fc, after some day my phone become laggy etc. So, after tried many cooked roms now i think that with a rooted odexed kl4 with jkay mod my phone isn't less smooth than a "cooked rom equipped" one except for quadrant or other benchmarks results that are only numbers and doesn't give you a real result of how smooth is your device in daily use.
With these considerations i don't want to offend nobody and developer's hard work (i'm not developer and i admire their ability) i want only know if i'm the only one to think that and (if not) to advise developers about what users would like to see in future cooked rom.
Let me know what you think and before to say you don't agree with me try stock kl4 to compare.

That's what I think also, and that's what I did.
Stock la4 with jkay mod and removed a **** load of built in apps with titanium.
My phone flies and is smooth as butter, battery life awesome, no bugs, no crashes, nothing wrong.
Pure experience...
I miss roms like the ones developed by RMK40 for the HTC Desire Z, they were pure stock and just enhanced with tweaks needed to make them perfect, no frankeinstein bizarre stuff.
When I read things like: "libraries from ICS" I'm like, WTF !!!
It's like fitting your car with parts from another car...
It might be a little faster, but could be much less reliable.
Anyway, I recognise those devs are very talented, as there is no way I could do it myself, but it's just against my religion to mix libraries from different systems.
Like the sony bravia mod... what a POS !!!

There are only two good reasons to use a custom ROM for me: Power Menu and latest firmware. So I use Sheep ROM, the least modded one.

Viamonte said:
There are only two good reasons to use a custom ROM for me: Power Menu and latest firmware. So I use Sheep ROM, the least modded one.
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Power menu is also customizable with jkay on stock kl4 i also use it
(I hitted "thanks" instead of "quote" in your post )

Same here l, I love Stock looks and feels, I always stay away from ROMs that have there own graphics in, like RocketROM. I am using Cassie LA3 V6.
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Best Performance Setup

Anyone care to share what they feel is their solid core setup? I think at this point in the Hero's life there has to be a a pretty solid combo of ROM+themes+apps that work ideally as far as performance vs. features go.
Been playing with 1ceb0x's ROM at the moment and I have a few apps that i've picked up and always use. I use handcentSMS for my messaging app, however its kind of slow. I keep a reddit app, reddit for fun. Facebook is always **** so not really worried about that one. SwiftkeyX has become my keyboard of choice however it is kind of slow.
Pretty much gave up on any games. Robodefense was pretty much the only thing I played anyways. Emulating gameboy is pretty solid too though.
What do you guys think

Tramd said:
Anyone care to share what they feel is their solid core setup? I think at this point in the Hero's life there has to be a a pretty solid combo of ROM+themes+apps that work ideally as far as performance vs. features go.
Been playing with 1ceb0x's ROM at the moment and I have a few apps that i've picked up and always use. I use handcentSMS for my messaging app, however its kind of slow. I keep a reddit app, reddit for fun. Facebook is always **** so not really worried about that one. SwiftkeyX has become my keyboard of choice however it is kind of slow.
Pretty much gave up on any games. Robodefense was pretty much the only thing I played anyways. Emulating gameboy is pretty solid too though.
What do you guys think
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Go sms pro (free app) + Go sms ICS UI (or something like that) theme (Free) for a fast, fully rich and nice looking sms app. and fast too
Being a guy who works internally, I always install root explorer, terminal emulator.
At this hour I can't remember any apps that are "core".

Are you using the latest version of goSMS? All the recent reviews are along the same lines with saying they ruined it with the latest update.

There are many system apps that you might not even be using, but they still consume RAM and processing power.

This is my current recepie for a fast hero:
*Elelinux gingerbread rom i
*ES file manager
*All apks i never use (Such as mail.apk) deleted
*And pretty much all else stock.
Stock Launcher and keyboard (I especially like the keyboard)
*No app2SD
It's not the best, but I like it and it's lightweight and easy.
If there is any more lightweight launcher in the market, I'd like to know.

Now i use Shpongle v3.6 with nothing removed... added a few apps (friendcaster, flickr, twitter, dropbox, fxcamera,maps,iGo etc... ) and i overclock the cpu to 691/264 for normal use, and i use 518/176 for standby (when i not use the phone i.e. over night when i sleep).
With this setup i get excellent rom speed and stability.
Icebox done a great job with tweaking the Decked_X Rom (@Goku) and FlyKernel13A (@erasmux), so i think that this setup on another rom will not be the same.
p.s. i use smartassV2 as a default governor.

I find the Cronos Ginger X rom to be the best for battery life and performance, it also feels much snappier then other roms in my opinion.