[Q] ROM Comparison - Is there a side by side? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anyone done a side by side comparison of the ROMs available for the MT4G?
I have been reading forum after forum and blog after blog, but most are so technical I'm just not getting the basic idea of what each ROM has to offer.
I see CM7 based ones and MIUI based ones, Sense based ones and Iced Glacier and it is all very confusing. I really just want to know a bottom line of what comes in it and what it looks like. How will it be different then the stock ROM in my phone now?
I don't have the know-how and experience of a developer but I'm not computer illiterate either.
I have however rooted my phone for the first time just a few days ago and want to do it right and make sure I am getting what I am looking for without losing anything in the process. Which is basically, no more TMo bloatware, faster CPU, longer battery life, customizable fonts, colors, sounds, etc and the ability to take screen shots.
I don't use the Sense and basic apps that came on the phone, I have LauncherPro and use Folder Organizer for my home screens, Dolphin HD for browsing, SwiftKey X as a keyboard, Handcent for SMS, Gmail for email, Astro for files, Doubletwist for media and am in the process of looking for a replacement for the Gallery. And I want to keep all of my customizations in those as well if possible.
This can all be so overwhelming because there is just sooo much info out there on the subject and so many different opinions and ways to do things. So any help or advice that can make the 'choosing a ROM' process a little easier will be so greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!
Thanks!
Jen
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Oh and let's not forget that apparently some ROMs then seem to have their own little differences between Stable, Experimental and Nightly...??? Someone please simplify for me! This root & rom noob greatly appreciates your patience and help.

IMO you should just go on a flashing spree and see which ones you like best, AOSP roms will probably have the best battery life vs sense based roms by a few hours.
But for me I like sense's integrated interface and the camera/gallery. I take a lot of pictures and the camera that comes with virtuous unity is awesome + the gallery that comes with it with it's effects (i know there are apps that do that too but the effects done by this gallery is pretty amazing)
Anyways if you're flashing a new rom you will have to redo your customization. Backup your apps using titanium backup or mybackup root or pro. (mybackup seems to be easiest to restore apps but if using titanium restore APP only because restoring data will sometimes cause problems)
Every ROM is better than stock.
Now the Roms:
Sense rom: Try Virtuous Unity first, it's amazing and my daily driver if you can get version 1.29 it seems to be more stable, that's what i'm on.
1.31 supposedly has draining issues for a few.
Looks: it's based off sensation, it's actually really amazing.
Miui rom: I haven't try this YET.. but if you like the iphone UI try this out
CM7/AOSP: I say start out with Royalginger, you can't go wrong with it, it's the rom that got me into this flashing craze in the first place. Think of it as CM7 supercharged.
i'm actually gonna try faux aosp next.
Looks:think smooth and quick
iced glaciers: no comment i think they're based off froyo? not sure.
There are also those gingerbread leaked roms. They're basically the new gingerbread 2.3.4 OS for mytouch4g with special modifications.
Note you should let the rom settle in a couple days to determine the battery usage of it.
If you're planning to flash CM7 you should just stick with the stable ones as you're new to this. think experimental builds as Beta and nightlies are alpha.
I switch around royalginger and virtuous unity can't go wrong with those. I just love virtuous unity camera and gallery.
every app you're using can be installed in any of the roms so don't worry about that. They'll look the same on each rom. You can make it look like what you're using now too plus it'll run quicker and smoother... and longer.
I suggest trying out Opera browser vs Dolphin, i was using dolphin but found that opera is much smoother. except i do like some of dolphin's feature.
no comments on keyboards because i only use swype 3.7 (it's swype + touch input keyboards together!)
I started out using handcent but found gosms quicker
quickpic and 3dgallery are popular choices.
oh when using each rom remember to check the APN in setting>wireless>mobile networks> access point names and see if it's on tmobile and not on anything else. I actually suggest deleting any other listed APNs
happy flashing!

That's some great info, Teo, and exactly the kind of input I'm looking for. Thanks!

Sorraia3 said:
That's some great info, Teo, and exactly the kind of input I'm looking for. Thanks!
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You should look at some youtube videos. That should give you a clear idea of what each ROM has to offer.

mackster248 said:
You should look at some youtube videos. That should give you a clear idea of what each ROM has to offer.
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Good idea, Mackster. I'll do that. Thanks!

I have been running miui and virtuous unity for some time now. While sense does have some nice eye candy, you cant go wrong with the kind of battery life and speed you can get aosp. The fastest rom i have tried to date is miui, I have not gotten higher quadrant scores on any other rom and i have tried them all. With the new phone i also recommend that you get familiar with radios and kernels too. Radios can make a big difference with battery life, cell reception and data speeds. Try out the panache radio, it seems to work best for me.

Check out the ROMs listed in the Resource bible. They are divided by android version and subdivided by base (aosp, sense, and miui.)
I dont have a side by side comparison since there are over 50 ROMS listed however I did start a POLL this month in the Resource Bible so you can view the results and see what ROMs others prefer.

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Thank you, junkie. I will check out both of those and will definitely start researching radios.
Thanks, Halfcalf... I will check out the bible and Great idea with the poll! It will be a big help seeing which are the more popular ones to help narrow it down. I definitely don't want to flash 50 different roms trying to decide. Lol

forgot to mention i think miui, latest cm7 nighly, virtuous unity all have a native screenshot thing. royalginger doesn't. not sure about faux

Teo032 said:
forgot to mention i think miui, latest cm7 nighly, virtuous unity all have a native screenshot thing. royalginger doesn't. not sure about faux
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Faux 1.29 doesn't have a native screenshot. It does support the market ones fine though. Also you can get some ridiculous speed and battery life on that ROM with well-thought SetCpu profiles.

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Trying to decide on a ROM

CM6.1 or MIUI (probably Rod's).
I do like the look of MIUI but I'd rather have the fastest, most stable setup and one with the greatest functionality.
These are both looking very good indeed these days.
So which one and why?
try them both a decide for yourself that's what its all about...you r just gonna get back and forth comments/bickering asking a question like that in here..try searching next time
Enomther's The Official.
Stock, all sorts of optional features, easiest method ever for enabling apps2ext, and stable
how can u go wrong
You won't get many replies.
WHY?
Everyone will most likely tell you to just try it yourself.
Every ROM in my sig has proven to be stable. I like to try different ones out.
As long as you are rooted, and have a custom recovery installed, nothing is stopping you from doing a nandroid backup and playing with a new ROM.
"fastest, most stable setup and one with the greatest functionality."
That's all up to you. What you may consider "greatest functionality" may be bloat to someone else.
Personally, I really liked MIUI by Rodriquez.
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Enomther's The Official.
Stock, all sorts of optional features, easiest method ever for enabling apps2ext, and stable
how can u go wrong
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Tried that ROM myself for a couple of days during the week. Love the FM Radio and features. But stable? Meh. I suffered apps closing/crashing unexpectedly throughout the day. Stable it wasn't.
If you want super stable, then GEO's ROM is superb. Only downside is no FM Radio.
Just my personal experience.
why not cm 6 R2 ? (or nightlys)
If you want my personal opinion (other than 'try them out for yourself), MIUI is great because of all of the interface tweaks. The lockscreen is gorgeous, the theming capability is awesome, and the settings UI is awesome.
I've been more than pleased with Kang-o-rama 1.0 b1. It's a build of CM6 RC1 with a handful of graphical niceties and solid Apps2ext functionality. The support the author provides is incredible as well. I try a lot of other ROMs, but that's the one I keep coming back to.
But as the others have said, try them all and make up your own damn mind. What one person loves about a ROM might be another person's pet peeve.
cpm said:
Tried that ROM myself for a couple of days during the week. Love the FM Radio and features. But stable? Meh. I suffered apps closing/crashing unexpectedly throughout the day. Stable it wasn't.
If you want super stable, then GEO's ROM is superb. Only downside is no FM Radio.
Just my personal experience.
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Geo's ROM's are great, I had one for quite a while. I don't know why you're getting issues with Enom's ROM, but it is very very stable. That's the reason people who use it, use it over CM. My uptime on my phone gets up to 100 hours without any force closes or issues, and even then it's me, I'm just flashing something else or changing a feature which requires reboot.
Geo's roms have been light, fast & very stable for me!
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I've been more than pleased with Kang-o-rama 1.0 b1. It's a build of CM6 RC1 with a handful of graphical niceties and solid Apps2ext functionality. The support the author provides is incredible as well. I try a lot of other ROMs, but that's the one I keep coming back to.
But as the others have said, try them all and make up your own damn mind. What one person loves about a ROM might be another person's pet peeve.
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Yes, I love Kang-o-rama
Well I tried the MIUI one (Rod's) and it just rebooted on me for no reason today.
Looks like it's CM6.1 next for me.
I was using Geo's then I got a message saying it wanted to do an update, then failed, but I could not get rid of that message.
Perhaps I should have got a Desire as I do like Sense, but the Sense ROM for the N1 was not stable IMO.
I'm using Rod's MIUIMOD 1.9.1(with wildmonks kernel) and never had a single reboot or stability problem.
Also, i've tried Enomther and MicroMOD's(also the Desire SuperHybrid) ROMs, and they were stable for me.
If all were unstable in your case, then maybe you're doing something wrong.
Did you for example wipe three times from recovery before flashing a completely different ROM?
In the past i've also had stability problems when using titanium backup to restore settings, so keep that in mind.
Also, you could try to use different kernel with somewhat higher voltage ( wildmonks for example http://wildmonks.whoisthedrizzle.com/kernel/2.6.35/112610/Custom_Kernels/ ).
Most ROM"s use kernel which are slightly under-volted to increase battery life(1050mv is the default stock kernel voltage if I remember correctly), but some devices don't like the lower voltages.
Should be clear, I never tried the ones you mentioned, it was the NXsense one I tried - it had a few silly little bugs but nothing major, just enough to be somewhat annoying.
Yes I do wipe, and am using the wildmonks kernel now.
I'm using stock MIUI with english pack and in my opinion...is more stable and smoother than CM 6.1... I check out CM rom yesterday and the ADW launcher still sucks..and Launcher Pro haven't adjust very well with some of the new effects and setting that CM have put in...my opinion MIUI stock..(not Rods Rom) with english pack...way better for now...and if you are a Launcher Pro fan...works awesome with MIUI....just my opinion
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IMHO:
MIUI, although a great show of design/function ingenuity, is a toy. It's a pretty, flashy toy. It's filled with stuff, and design is confusing. Everything's all over the place, there's too many features (yeah, I know, crazy) and too much stuff going on.
CM6.1, besides being more stable (majority would agree), it's android as google meant it. It's pristine, clean and just looking at it makes u feel confident in its stability. It's simple, yet advanced. Fast, yet reliable.
I definitely recommend CM over MIUI, but, of course, it's all individual prefs.
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If you want my personal opinion (other than 'try them out for yourself), MIUI is great because of all of the interface tweaks. The lockscreen is gorgeous, the theming capability is awesome, and the settings UI is awesome.
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Why is the theming awesome? I have yet to see a MIUI theme that themed the whole ROM. The ugly dialer, MMS and Contacts app are always left out. Most of the themes are just icons and wallpaper.
As to the UI if it is so great why do most use Launcher Pro with it. To me... JMHO it looks like Windows 3.1 with a splash of color
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IMHO:
MIUI, although a great show of design/function ingenuity, is a toy. It's a pretty, flashy toy. It's filled with stuff, and design is confusing. Everything's all over the place, there's too many features (yeah, I know, crazy) and too much stuff going on.
CM6.1, besides being more stable (majority would agree), it's android as google meant it. It's pristine, clean and just looking at it makes u feel confident in its stability. It's simple, yet advanced. Fast, yet reliable.
I definitely recommend CM over MIUI, but, of course, it's all individual prefs.
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Yup!
Windows 3.1 with a bunch of apps that look like the team never had a meeting
Definitely enomther's the official.
Tried CM, was ok, a tad unstable at times and I'm not a nightly person. If you want a rom to use for at least a month, don't use something that doesn't have a Final build and has to undergo nightly revisions. I got sick of having to flash CM everytime a nightly comes out.
I dislike MIUI. Enough said. Up to personal preference. Really dislike the iphoney crap.
If you want a somewhat stable sense rom, I recommend Evil's NXSense.
Like most others here have said, you gotta try them out to decide.
I originally tried a bunch of Roms and didn't like all the "bloat". I settled on Geo's rom because it basically is a pre-rooted and ready to go stock rom with some little bonuses.
After a while I tried MIUI's because of the newer UI. I quickly lost interest with the quirky lockscreen, phone, and messaging apps. I used Launcher Pro as I hate the cluttered iPhone desktop. Dialer Oned out the phone from the same lack of dial-by name and quirky facebook intergration. I tried Stock MIUI and Rods (I liked Rods).
Then I settled on CM6.1 which had the nice customizable dropdown menu toggles, taskbar color modifications, and additional features that were available.
Since I've seen the new MIUI theming capabilities but I don't think I'm quite ready to switch from CM's. I use the nightlies now and I'm now using a lot of the tweaks that I know I will ultimately regret on other roms.
But this is the perk of a Nexus. I just download and keep a bunch of roms on my phone's SD card... able to switch to whatever in minutes. Thus don't be afraid to do the same.
Also what I've learned is that no matter what rom you use, once you install Dialer One and Launcher Pro... they all feel the same aside from the little perks one may offer over the other.

Roms without Sense UI

Hello all im currently looking for a rom for my dinc that doesn't have the sense ui... Wich one the most popular.l?
Your looking for Android Open Source Project, or AOSP ROMs, I'd say Cyanogen Mod is the most popular, current version is CM7 RC1, which is Android 2.3. There's Skyraider Athena and a couple others. If your looking for something like an iPhone go for MIUI. Its all your choice.
Sent from God, who uses CM7 RC1.
Yep, my top choice would be CM7-RC1.5, then CM6.1, MIUI, and the rest I've sorta lumped into a big group- but there are a lot of really great AOSP ROM's.
I agree about miui an d cm 6.1-7
Very stable, amazing battery life.
And ironically my first reboot was writing this as I write it is stable lol. nonetheless, I recommend cm, but miui is nice too.
I'm using incredikernal beta and am on like, 58 hours off the charger with my 3500 seidio at 45%.
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Let me ask you this... whichever rom I decide to choose, will I still have access to my Verizon backup assistant and Verizon exclusive apps like nfl mobile?
I'm currently running Sense(less) rEVOlution 2.0 (its not AOSP) along with
2.6.32.27-incredikernel-12232010-plus25v. So far I love it. Fast Stable and great battery.
I actually like the senseless ones better than aosp since they keep a bunch of really nice sense stuff while eliminating most of the bloat. Both skyraider athena and senseless revolution (which I also use and love) fall into that category. If you look in the dinc development forum, somebody just posted a nice comprehensive list of the available roms arranged by type. It'd be a great place to start.
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Ok im going to sound real amatureish here i rooted my dinc and used the vitorus rom that is basically stock without the bloatware... That being said i need to know what AOSP means. Also i need to know do i install the kernell seperate from the rom itself or is the kernel included and i just have to find the right one.
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Ok im going to sound real amatureish here i rooted my dinc and used the vitorus rom that is basically stock without the bloatware... That being said i need to know what AOSP means. Also i need to know do i install the kernell seperate from the rom itself or is the kernel included and i just have to find the right one.
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AOSP basically just means it doesn't have sense, a lot of them are generally buggy but you'll find a few that are very nice to have on your phone.
They all have different looks, so I'd suggest you just checking out each one and seeing for yourself.
MIUI has sort of an iPhone look and feel to it.
I wrote up a list of ROM's here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
So just check down the list to see how different ones look. Of course many of those also have additonal modifications that you can put on that will further change how things look (changing notification bar color, etc)
> Flashing a Kernel you can do just like flashing a ROM. Every ROM (at least that I know of) comes with a kernel when you flash it. However you'll find that there's a few Kernels that give superior battery life and performance than others.
I decided to try skyraider Athena 1.2 has anyone noticed you aren't able to sync your contacts with Facebook?
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Theteflondon said:
Hello all im currently looking for a rom for my dinc that doesn't have the sense ui... Wich one the most popular.l?
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Check out this post with a link of the most active ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
So I really liked the skyraider Athena rom but it really annoyed me that I couldn't sync my contacts with Facebook so I I decided to try miui and I love it what an awesome rom!
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So now that I have chosen my rom, where do I start to search for the best kernel for battery life.
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So now that I have chosen my rom, where do I start to search for the best kernel for battery life.
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Check there. I was using chads .37 kernel and getting awesome battery life, it also has quick charge.

Cyanogen vs Virtuous

Just wondering what your thoughts are. I like them both, so hopefully you can all help me make a decision.
Notes:
*if option to customize lock screen exists, HUGE plus
*I'll probably overclock / use SetCPU, so good balance of performance / battery is huge for me.
Duke it out!
I've had experience with both, virtuous is nice but CM is so much faster. It is also nice to have Android the way it was meant to be and not some companies highly modded version.
Sense uses quite a lot of memory whereas CM does not and this makes a big difference with how responsive your phone can be.
I've been using CM 7.0 Nightlies for quite a while now and the speed is awesome, plus I also like the fact that it's Android the way it should be. Battery is great for me with Cyanogen as well, about 26-30 hours with average usage (stock battery).
Having had experience with Cyanogen-based ROMs on my previous Hero and Virtuous on my current DZ, i am actually torn. For me, personally, I would have to give the edge to Virtuous. Having the wide customizability of CM was great and having LauncherPRO was so flexible. That being said, however, I like how HTC's Sense just gets you and assumes many of the things you would like to do instead of you doing it yourself.
One example would be facebook linking to your contacts. I hate seeing a generic photo when I get calls and would rather see the picture of the person calling. Having this kind of assumed integration is great. Other features like the dialer, working GPS and rmk's other small tweaks (see: Virtuous advanced kernel for use with SetCPU) make the Sense experience that much better.
On the otherhand, AOSP or CM versions of android are much lighter as they dont have the kind of assumptions and integrations of a Sense-based rom. Being highly customizable, you can implement different launchers, skins, lock screens, docks, etc.. but I did find myself cursing at some points because I am just a Sense kind of guy deep inside.
It really comes down to personal preference. Try them both for a week and see how you feel about them. Alot of people have been saying Virtuous is laggy, but I have not seen any of that lag. As with all flashes, clear data, cache, battery and davlik through recovery! Have fun and i hope you find the rom that fits you.
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Having had experience with Cyanogen-based ROMs on my previous Hero and Virtuous on my current DZ, i am actually torn. For me, personally, I would have to give the edge to Virtuous. Having the wide customizability of CM was great and having LauncherPRO was so flexible. That being said, however, I like how HTC's Sense just gets you and assumes many of the things you would like to do instead of you doing it yourself.
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Sense is definitely nice, and it's something that easily sets HTC devices apart from the pack. That being said, I'm much more of an AOSP kind of guy, because as nice and pretty as Sense is, it just takes up too much RAM for my liking, and the launcher is just not customizable enough for me. Having only 3 buttons at the bottom absolutely drives me nuts; I've got to have the scrolling bottom row like Go Launcher and Launcher Pro provide. Obviously you can use these on a Sense rom, but what's the point in having a Sense rom when you don't use the Sense launcher? For me it boils down to this, and I'm sure the many other features that Cyanogenmod has that I use on a daily basis. I haven't used Virtuous since I got the phone in October, so I'm sure there's more stuff on it now than before, but I'm definitely a Cyanogenmod kind of guy. Plus there are roms based off Cyanogen, like Mexdroid, that add all kinds of pretty and additional functionality that I like.
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but what's the point in having a Sense rom when you don't use the Sense launcher?
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The HTC camera app is far better than on CM, and the camera button does not lag like it does on CM. And I'm not completely sure about this (and haven't really seen it discussed here much), but it seems the Sense based ROMs have more/better hardware codecs for playback of a wider variety of videos without lag or sync issues. Also, the Sense fastboot feature is pretty nice if you have to turn off/on your phone frequently (which I do, due to frequent air travel).
I haven't given the latest and greatest CM7 versions a test drive yet, but I tried RC1 and RC2, and there were still enough bugs (GPS, video camera playback) to turn me off. I might wait until Gingerbread is officially released for our hardware before trying a GB ROM again.
For a daily, I would pick CM7 since it's quick and I'm pretty much guaranteed a full day of usage no matter what.
Virtuous, Sense, is nice and all, but the lag is a deal breaker for me. The only perks I see from Sense is the refined UI and better FaceBook integration, other than that, I don't really need it. And the battery life on Sense roms seems to be half of what I get on CM7.
CM7, stock android, is catching up though, with Gingerbread the UI has been given a cleaner look and my contacts do sync with FaceBook, but every now and then I'll have a duplicate contact, which in Sense it would allow me to link the two together. The only problem I would see with CM7 would be all of the customization options. I'd say that I'm an above average Android user, but all of the options I have available to me to customize the phone look is a bit overwhelming, in my opinion. It takes me a good hour or two to get the phone set up in a way I prefer, whereas Sense kind of has it's settings put in such a way that creates a better user experience.
So as I said before, CM7 would be my preferred ROM since when I do get it set up the way I want, the phone is easy to use and everything is quickly accessible to me. Virtuous, as nice as it is, is just a bit too slow and too much of a battery drainer for me to use it every day.
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The HTC camera app is far better than on CM, and the camera button does not lag like it does on CM. And I'm not completely sure about this (and haven't really seen it discussed here much), but it seems the Sense based ROMs have more/better hardware codecs for playback of a wider variety of videos without lag or sync issues. Also, the Sense fastboot feature is pretty nice if you have to turn off/on your phone frequently (which I do, due to frequent air travel).
I haven't given the latest and greatest CM7 versions a test drive yet, but I tried RC1 and RC2, and there were still enough bugs (GPS, video camera playback) to turn me off. I might wait until Gingerbread is officially released for our hardware before trying a GB ROM again.
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So what about using CM6? Isn't that a Froyo build?
If so, is it just lacking in features compared to the Gingerbread builds?
As a side note, can anyone tell me if CM has some sort of Facebook-to-Contact link like Sense? And if so, is it actually nice and doesn't load my entire phone app full of people I will never ever call? LoL
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As a side note, can anyone tell me if CM has some sort of Facebook-to-Contact link like Sense? And if so, is it actually nice and doesn't load my entire phone app full of people I will never ever call? LoL
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There is an app called contapps or something like that on market that has similar facebook to contact integration.
Speed = CM or CM based (GingerVillian)
Ease of use = Sense based (Virtuous)
It is really boiling down to personal preference. I did find myself jumping between AOSP and Sense before but could never really shake my love for Sense. The slight bloat and 0.001% lag that i experience is a good price to pay . I hope you find the rom that fits you, whatever that may be
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So what about using CM6? Isn't that a Froyo build?
If so, is it just lacking in features compared to the Gingerbread builds?
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Yep, pretty much. CM6 is very stable. But for me, if you're going to go Froyo, you may as well go Sense. I like the extra features, and you can use an alternative launcher, since the lag on the Sense ROMs is mostly when using the stock launcher, IMO. And I didn't seem to experience any worse battery life with Sense ROMs versus CM7, like a previous user mentioned. But I didn't stay on CM6 long enough to compare battery life. Plus, the theming aesthetics of the Sense ROM and Gingerbread are nicer than Froyo, in my personal taste.
Actually there is also a sense gingerbread out accurately named 'senseginger' made by teamvillain aswell. It is very good. It is the middleground of froyo sense and stock gingerbread.
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CM is a lot smoother and simple.
The sense part on Virtuous takes up toooo much memory and slows the phone down, but the widgets are nice.
Android always comes down to user preference. You want a suggestion? Try both. And give it a good week. Even if you HATE it at first, give it a good while before deciding against it. You may find that once little aspect that will keep you from ever changing.
Me personally, I like CM7 over any sense based rom hands down. With the new gingerbread based cm7 I can easily link all of my facebook contacts with the ones in my contact list. If at first the picture doesn't show up, make sure you have the facebook app to sync all and then just long press your contact and join it to the facebook one. Boom, instant gratification. I personally rely on my ram being free, and the ability to overclock smoothly for playing ps one emulators. SetCpu has been known to cause glitches in cm7 for underclocking or overclocking too much, but as long as you do a minimal amount of research for your setup, it is easily avoided. As some others previously stated, it's all dependant on your preference and what you use your phone for. Try them both for a week at least, then decide, that's the best advice I could give
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My first experience with a ROM was CM7 RC1-4 and a few days ago I was bored and installed Virtuous and it's not bad but I definitely prefer CM7, it's way faster and smoother. The main reason I got the G2 was because it's Vanilla Android and CM7 has it all!
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CyanogenMod 7.0.0 Stable
ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.2.4
Main question: do you like Sense or no? I've tried miui, virtuous, gb sense, etc. I always go back to cm7. Just smoother.
Virtuous (and all sense roms I've tried) send blurry MMSs as well.
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I like sense so i have virtuos, cm7 has too many bugs for me, maybe the last release is better!
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I like sense so i have virtuos, cm7 has too many bugs for me, maybe the last release is better!
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What kind of bugs? I haven't found any.
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What kind of bugs? I haven't found any.
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On Camcorder, taking a video landscape, then trying to playback in portrait mode results in the screen showing white and blue lines. Same with taking the video in portrait and trying to playback while in landscape mode.
Also, there is a Gmail margin problem. And there is a decent amount of people with non-GPS (although probably most CM users are fine on this).
But similar to the previous response, I have not tried the more recent CM releases, to see if these were fixed.
As others have said, it comes down to personal preferences. I've come to like Sense recently and am really liking the amazing standby times I've been getting with Virtuous, so I'm sticking with that for a bit. After a couple releases I may look into CM7 again, though, since I miss the customizable automatic brightness levels it has (a little feature that is a big deal to me).

What is the "best" ROM, what has what?

Hey Guys & Girls,
I have a HTC Desire Z, I am currently running the MIUI Osimod ROM and it's starting to lag plus there are a few little things what bug me and annoy me however it is quite a good ROM
I'm looking for a "better" ROM, I don't know how to pick between each ROM, if there was 2 or 3 ROM's I would of simply tried each one but there are LOADS of ROM's.
I wish there was a rule and a specific topic layout enabling novices to see the major differences between ROM's because its so hard, a simple tickbox system would be good enough to help compare.
If you have any suggestions for a ROM for me to use, tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others...
If you could do this, it would be much appreciated
Thanks
- Hyflex
Hyflex said:
Hey Guys & Girls,
I have a HTC Desire Z, I am currently running the MIUI Osimod ROM and it's starting to lag plus there are a few little things what bug me and annoy me however it is quite a good ROM
I'm looking for a "better" ROM, I don't know how to pick between each ROM, if there was 2 or 3 ROM's I would of simply tried each one but there are LOADS of ROM's.
I wish there was a rule and a specific topic layout enabling novices to see the major differences between ROM's because its so hard, a simple tickbox system would be good enough to help compare.
If you have any suggestions for a ROM for me to use, tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others...
If you could do this, it would be much appreciated
Thanks
- Hyflex
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OMGOMGOMGOMG NOT THIS AGAIN!!!!!! As stated in other threads, the best rom comes down to user preference. Like my fav is virtuous unity because i like sense 3.0 UI
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evilcuber said:
OMGOMGOMGOMG NOT THIS AGAIN!!!!!! As stated in other threads, the best rom comes down to user preference. Like my fav is virtuous unity because i like sense 3.0 UI
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If you noticed... I said "best" and said: "tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others"
Meaning, I understand and know its personal opinions / user preference and am saying "best" not as in which ones the fastest, most features...etc but want to know what ROM's people are using and what they like about them.
Simple
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If you noticed... I said "best" and said: "tell me your favourite ROM and why you think it's better than others or the reasons you like it over others"
Meaning, I understand and know its personal opinions / user preference and am saying "best" not as in which ones the fastest, most features...etc but want to know what ROM's people are using and what they like about them.
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Well you should change the thread name from the best rom to your fav rom. Also you could check out reviews on each rom to learn more, you could also read the threads for each rom to get ppls opinions
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If you try and flash all of them and experiment them out, you'll find out which one you like the best.
I prefer the sense based widgets, so I stick more with the sense-rom sides.
I have always been a CM user, but with the DZ I've felt that I don't really need CM or CM based roms because it's speedy enough on sense. Can't say for sure with virtuous unity, feels like it uses a bit more resources and battery. But that's just my opinion.
how come there is no poll somewhere that shows how many ppl are at what rom...
anyways its definitely a personal preference... i went from Sense 2.0 to CM to OSI_MIUI and now back at Sense 3... virtuous unity is stable and fast enough (with overclocking) havn't had any problems with it...
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how come there is no poll somewhere that shows how many ppl are at what rom...
anyways its definitely a personal preference... i went from Sense 2.0 to CM to OSI_MIUI and now back at Sense 3... virtuous unity is stable and fast enough (with overclocking) havn't had any problems with it...
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I just tried unity and its slow once i have my apps installed it was slow and my im apps were disconnecting (restarting)
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I just tried unity and its slow once i have my apps installed it was slow and my im apps were disconnecting (restarting)
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Was this an earlier version of unity?
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Was this an earlier version of unity?
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I used 1.31, the most current non beta and I feel the lag at times. Virtuous sense feels a lot better.
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I used 1.31, the most current non beta and I feel the lag at times. Virtuous sense feels a lot better.
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It was latest, I never download old stuff and Im using the G-Lite version atm its pretty bare, I want to have the reboot options and the toggles tab (when u open notifications) also I want to stop the stupid "USB Connected" message popping up its driving me insane lol
Love those thread, because its hard too choose.
Tried cm7, but no sense ui.
Tried virtuous sense 2.0, but its 2.0
Love the unity 1.31.
recently upgrade to unity 2.37, but tons of bugs.
About virtuous doubleshot?
oVeRdOsE. said:
Love those thread, because its hard too choose.
Tried cm7, but no sense ui.
Tried virtuous sense 2.0, but its 2.0
Love the unity 1.31.
recently upgrade to unity 2.37, but tons of bugs.
About virtuous doubleshot?
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'tons of bugs'? Such as?
I moved away from Unity when it moved to Sense 3.0 because it was so unstable on my DZ - I guess because of the memory requirements.
I used Virtuous Sense 2 for a good few weeks, but I really wanted Sense 3.
Tried a few others (doubleshot, Honeysense etc.) but now Unity 2.37 is out I have had barely any problems - fully recommended.
I've used them all and Bulletproof's MIUI Rom is the best in my opinion. Then again it all comes down to preference.
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I actually enjoy these types of threads because it keeps us users on our toes. At the same time, if the Dev's browse these threads, perhaps they'll be able to compare their featureset with another ROM's featureset. That being said, here is my opinion if you haven't already chosen a ROM yet.
Sense: I LOVE SenseUI. The native Facebook integration, intelligent dialer and the host of intuitive widgets is great to have. It is THE go-to ROM if you want a plug-and-play ROM. Setup time is minimal and though Sense does take up more resources than say CM, AOSP-based or MIUI, it is the tradeoff you make to have convenience. My SenseUI recommendation would be Virtuous Sense 2.0 hands down. Doubleshot and Expresso ports are nice but they're not true SenseUI. SenseUI 3.0 (i.e. Virtuous Unity, etc...) is nice but you need to sacrifice more than system resources to run that properly (i.e. if you have the G2, you need to convert to the DesireZ HBOOT; might have to OC more to get SenseUI 3.0 to run smoother, etc...).
AOSP: I ran AOSP based ROM's in the past and the best advantage is SPEED. A typical AOSP ROM is about 1/3 the size of the equivalent SenseUI ROM so you'll have tons of space to hold your apps and other stuff. AOSP is nice if you have a specific app to use for your different types of integration. My recommendation for AOSP based ROMs would be either CM7 (Haven't used before) or Virtuous G-Lite (Used and loved). The only reason I left AOSP (for now) is because I want the Facebook and other types of integration and convenience that SenseUI offers in one package rather than find equivalent apps to do the same thing.
MIUI: Think of this as AOSP with an iPhone-esque skin; easily customizable from a UI standpoint. This makes sense because MIUI stands for "My UI" according to my research. Alot of the features in the various MIUI builds are similar to that of AOSP ROMs just with added UI customizeability. Each flavor does add or subtract some features, but the baseline experience should be similar throughout. My recommendation for MIUI would be the Official MIUI build for the DesireZ/G2 from MIUI.us.
It seems that you understand (surprising that many don't) that whether you like or dislike a ROM is completely personal. Myself, for example, love to have SenseUI. Others will swear profanity at SenseUI and kick my arse for loving it. I hope you can find the ROM that suits you!
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I agree with everything you stated, ad I have tried all ROMs uve stated. I also love sense ui and features hence stuck to virtuous sense 2.0. If it wasnt for that i would straight head to miui as it then be customized to my demand.
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hmm stock pre-rooted ota works great for me and fast!
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'tons of bugs'? Such as?
I moved away from Unity when it moved to Sense 3.0 because it was so unstable on my DZ - I guess because of the memory requirements.
I used Virtuous Sense 2 for a good few weeks, but I really wanted Sense 3.
Tried a few others (doubleshot, Honeysense etc.) but now Unity 2.37 is out I have had barely any problems - fully recommended.
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I'll post some pictures in the dev section about my bugs. I hope its something easy to fix because so far is the fastest rom I've tried.
Been trying to find a ROM that lasts the whole day, and not even g-lite lasted me more than 12 hours. Not sure why since all I do is text, run on edge all the time, below 50% brightness, no background data.
I tried these ones from virtuous 'cause I like Sense much. But... they had same "feature", after few days and software updates I started to get force closes from acore and gapps and couldn't use UI/phone at all. Even rebooting to recovery was pain in the ass. I tried factoryreset and even re-install on top of old one without wipe, but didn't help. CM7 going strong and steady now.
I hate to be repetitious, but as long as these "best ROM" threads keep popping up, I'll keep saying it. OP mentions "favorite ROM" in the body of his post, but "best ROM" in the title. Really, "favorite" is a better terms, as there is no "best" ROM. Everyone has different needs, tastes, and preferences. Calling one "best" or "better" than others is an insult to the generous devs who work so hard making these ROMs for us.

Need advice, can't find a good ROM

Hello everyone, for a little while I've been trying to find an ideal ROM for daily use, nothing fancy but something that meets my needs;
Most of all I need it to send/receive calls reliably and have decent battery life. I don't quite want something really flashy though eye candy makes the phone feel new & updated but functionality is more important to me. Here's a quick list of thing that I NEED working:
-Ability to disable data roaming (rules out express)
-4G (rules out all MIUI)
-Smooth video camera 720p without being choppy (rules out synergy)
-No random bugs ie, lock screen, weather, clocks (just the basics)
If you have tried or know of any currently available ROMs that fit this criteria please point me in the right direction, I'm so tired of flashing all these different ROMS only to find out that one of the things listed was not mentioned under the ROM description where I downloaded it, I know most of them claim to be bug-free but there is no such thing as bug free ROM unless I go back to stock, and I understand that so I'm not looking for the holy grail, just something that works for what I need it to do.
phone is rooted & running amon-ra recovery
Thanks in advance
Deck 1.3
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thanks I'm flashing right now, i'm open to any other suggestions if there are others...
Check out Tommy Tomatoe's Classic ROM. It's gotvwhat you want and lots of options, tweaks & themes to go with it.
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Swag released a public beta, a new stock SOS V rom, try that out you won't be disappointed.
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Gruesomewolf has a pretty nice rom out
you guys are awesome I'm going to try all these suggestions, deck is very fast and stable (so far) but a bit too simple and lacks eye candy, I feel like it'll be the ROM I fall back to if the others fail for me in any way
by the way, if it's not too much trouble do you guys have links? I searched for these roms but there are several with similar names!
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you guys are awesome I'm going to try all these suggestions, deck is very fast and stable (so far) but a bit too simple and lacks eye candy, I feel like it'll be the ROM I fall back to if the others fail for me in any way
by the way, if it's not too much trouble do you guys have links? I searched for these roms but there are several with similar names!
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Deck is what I used and had installed on my EVO when I sold it, just saw this thread as I was coming to say goodbye to the EVO community.
Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.
i use AOKP M4
fast. really fast
try out virus eternity rom, and radiance rc 6.1 both amazing sense 3.5's
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try out virus eternity rom, and radiance rc 6.1 both amazing sense 3.5's
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Never liked sense roms, too much junk, deck is nice and basic. Allows for easier customization.
Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.
Gruesomewolf's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203761
I just started running a port of Gummys ICS rom. It's been running great so far. very speedy, all the features you requested, plus the latest-n-greatest android improvements.
List of features:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10cuwc5FMEwTfieF1Mio66fNCsyLzG4nXPGo9VS9MivM/edit?pli=1
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Downloads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23552374&postcount=42
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MikG is awesome
I to have been using gummy ics rom, and no problems so far but the ones in the op, great from give it a run.
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for the longest time i was running the newest and best version of KINGS ROM. i always thought his roms were amazing. ran them for MONTHS. back in oct i changed to evo deck and honestly i will NEVER go to another rom. the advanced CPU options and amazing smoothness of the rom makes it THE BEST, PERIOD
Best I know Rom
oceanisbleu
I think the most stable Rom out is MikG v3.1 It's a sense 2.1 3.0 Rom with a Ton of themes and mods that can be mixed to suit your style. Because of the hardware we have on the EVO there's only so much you can get out of it. Anything above 3.0 doesn't play nice with our phones. I've tested and read about every Rom out there and MikG v3.1 running Anthrax kernel with v6 Superscript & 3G turbo is the best.
my sense load is mikg 3.XX and my aosp load is aokp m4. both worked flawlessly.
wow I am blown away by Tomatoe's express
tons of space left after flash & installing all my apps also fast & smooth.
Reset the battery & unplugged it yesterday morning and now it's been over 24 hours since I last charged it, talked for at least an hour, sent & received some texts, had wifi on the entire time, as mentioned I've been downloading stuff off the market & even played pandora for at least half an hour and right now the battery still has 38% left, I wanted to test all the other ROMs mentioned but I find it hard getting out of this comfort spot I find myself in now that I have everything set up the way I like it
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oceanisbleu
I think the most stable Rom out is MikG v3.1 It's a sense 2.1 3.0 Rom with a Ton of themes and mods that can be mixed to suit your style. Because of the hardware we have on the EVO there's only so much you can get out of it. Anything above 3.0 doesn't play nice with our phones. I've tested and read about every Rom out there and MikG v3.1 running Anthrax kernel with v6 Superscript & 3G turbo is the best.
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I may be wrong since I'm starting to forget what I have & have not tried yet but have you had trouble with video cam at 720p? again I could be wrong but I wanna say that I experienced choppy recording from mikG, I like sense 3.0 most when it comes to look & feel so I might give it a try....
I'm still very amazed by tomatoe's express, my excitement will wear off in a day or two I am sure haha
on a side note, I may have found a problem with express (or my google voice!!)
I have over 50% reception in my home, and since last night I've seen 2 missed calls on my google voice inbox but the phone never rang, could this be the ROM or Google?

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