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Firstly, I want to say that I am doing this just to get everyone's own personal view on which EVO ROM is the best. Before I get all kinds of hateful posts just hear me out. I want to know what you think from your own personal point of view and why you think it's the best. For those who switch ROMs daily, post and tell some pros and cons of each maybe. Tell me why you like it, what you like about it, which of your needs it meets, which it doesn't. And so on!!! I think this could be a good thread for the noobs to learn different things about different kinds of ROMs and what the different ones have to offer. Thank you XDA community!!!!!
Edit: "Frequent flaher" I like that term and I'm sure it applies to a lot of people posting in this thread.

Destroyer is awesome. Very fast and awesome theming. VaelPak is also really good b/c it's so unique and customizable. IMHO, if you're new to flashing, you need to try, CM or variant of, Miui, VaelPak, and a Z ROM (MikZ or Warm Z).
For sense ROMs, Unleashed is really good. Very fast/smooth and awesome theme options. Best sense ROM IMHO. MikFroyo is also very fast. I can get good battery life out of almost any ROM, but EViO 2 stands out in that area.

ive flashed alot of sense and about all of the gingerbread roms. the gingerbreads are fast, but too high maintenance for me. sure some will say that its stable for them but 8 out of 10 in the cm threads are trying to work out bugs.
theres also a lot of fast and fully functional sense roms highly themed. depends on what the end user whants out of their rom, functionality, look, batt, etc..
i like a bare bones stock sleek looking optimized preferably lightly themed rom. thats why im currently running Miks 4.6b2 ODEXED themed by Chogardjr. i removed all of the useless stuff, its faast, rock solid stable, great battery life and everything works. IMHO!

I have used almost every setup there is, and most are pretty good, except they all have an issue or 2 that makes me feel incomplete when it comes to my phone.
Sense Roms: King's Ultra Froyo and Ultra Froyo 2, Koni's Elite 1 and Elite 2. ALL of those are pretty equal. Very fast, smooth, beautiful looking, but no matter what kernel I tried, battery life was garbage. One thing about my phone is I tried almost every NetArchy Kernel there is, I bet, and never got a good battery on a Sense ROM.
Miui: I can see why people like it, but I just don't like having all my apps on the desktop and switching to LPP takes away part of the allure of havng Miui. The theme changer wouldn't install any of the themes I downloaded. Plus, I had issues with screen flicker, but I understand I did the update wrong, so that may be where that came from. Also, I spent over an hour alphabetizing my apps... damn OCD!
CM7: By FAR the best battery life, with the kernel I use, SavagedZen 009, but the GPS navigation thing is an issue. I take my phone off the charger at 6AM, and by 11PM, after moderate to heavy use, I'm never below 50%. Still, I want those Sense Widgets. LPP has them, but in People, for instance, you don't get the user pics from Facebook, and all the entries are just the stock Android image. One other thing on CM7, that is intolerable, is that it takes a coon's age to copy anything to my SDCard. I did a back up, and reformat the other night and it took an hour and a half to copy my music back (just under a gig), for example
Right now, I'm running Destroyer, and the battery isn't as good as with nightly 14, but it's pretty good. BEtter than with any of the others I've tried. And whatever issues people have with this, I'm not having them. Everything is working good. Very fast, too.
For me, the best, most complete ROM there is, is VaelPak 3.2. It has everything you want. Almost like all the different Mods were combined to make one insane ROM. More custumization options than CM/Sense and MiUi put together, puls packs of goodies that come with the ROM installed on the SDCard. I can't remember why I took it off now, but I think it was the battery life, again, was horrible. Dropped 15% in less than 2 hours with the stock kernel. Although, I didn't keep it on long enough to really test other kernels with it, and there are a few that people using it say give them fanatastic battery life.

I love my CM7 nightlies. Nuff said!!!!!! <3
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noahguz said:
Firstly, I want to say that I am doing this just to get everyone's own personal view on which EVO ROM is the best. Before I get all kinds of hateful posts just hear me out. I want to know what you think from your own personal point of view and why you think it's the best. For those who switch ROMs daily, post and tell some pros and cons of each maybe. Tell me why you like it, what you like about it, which of your needs it meets, which it doesn't. And so on!!! I think this could be a good thread for the noobs to learn different things about different kinds of ROMs and what the different ones have to offer. Thank you XDA community!!!!!
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still waiting for the best...
i like warm z.. but it dont have hdmi and 4G. ffc can be worked around.
what dont you give your thoughts???

Well I just started flashing ROMs about 9 months ago and started a basically sense roms. I didn't really like them bc of limited customization and they were a little slow and battery was horrible. From there I stuck with an AOSP rom for about the past 6 months until a few weeks ago and read up a little on MIUI and tried that out for a whole 6 hours and hated it. I couldn't stand all my apps on the screen and no drawer. Really got on my nerves. Then tried out that Unleashed and was happy with that for about a week til I really started doing some reading up on CM and decided to try it out, loved it and everything about it. So now I'm a supporter of them, but am super stoked to try out this new SZ ROM. Think that might be the new rom of choice for me.
Edit: That good Dan?
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^^^ that will work...

Not sure why anyone hasn't said this yet but Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 5 is the best in my opinion. Might not have been updated in a while, but in my experience is the fastest Sense rom with lots of eye candy while still looking sleek/professional without going overboard, the best battery life (16 hours heavy use 30 with light use/good signal), and everything works. I know that AOSP roms have wimax now but gps has been hit and miss with every one of them (for gingerbread at least, I don't care for any 2.2 AOSP roms). Navigation definitely did not work.
I loved Evervolv and Savage but again, not everything works the way it should. Myn's is just the best daily driver. Battery life is phenomenal, I haven't been able to get more than 16-20 hours out of an aosp rom.

IMO (never h):
All the Sense ROMs are the same. They are just the same stock ROM with some heavy theming and maybe a custom tweak here and there ... but IMO if you're going to flash sense you're better off just checking the themes section and getting the look you want... because that's what they are.
Also keep in mind that Sense is likely a dead end as it is. I have doubts 2.3 will ever land on EVO .from HTC/Sprint... meaning it will never come to fruition in any Sense ROM. So it's a dead-end thing to support anyway.
AOSP is a different story. These are truly custom, already ahead of Sense if you're a version buff (2.3.3) and tend to run faster, smoother, and with A LOT less bloat. That said they aren't all flowers and rainbows either. Because they are actually scratch written they tend to not be feature complete (though team WIN is quickly changing that) so make sure you know what feature is missing and if that's a big deal to you.
That said, CM is the AOSP leader. It has the dev support, and most AOSP ROMs you'll notice are based on CM because they are nice enough to release under GPL rather than the default Apache agreement most others use. I like it for what it is, and it's the "best" if you like vanilla Android and want to follow what Google is doing with thier OS.
The other "best" IMO MIUI. It's behind CM in terms of the latest Android base (though GB is finally in the works), and it's closed source so it is missing things available in other AOSP ROMS ... but what it does bring to the table is amazing. It's better in battery, faster, the built in apps are worth paying for if they ever make it to market ... its an amazing ROM.
I secretly have wet dreams of MIUI and CM having an Android love child and bringing me my dream ROM ... until then I flip back and forth between the two.

I'm running a special rom called "dirk diggler rom" and if you want to use it deposit 500 bucks in my PayPal . P.S its better than any rom YOU will ever run on your evo lol.
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^^^^^ uhmmm, nah. Can't be too much different than anything else on here. Pretty funny though. Ha
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The answer depends on your needs. For instance, I don't like the look of Sense but I also need 4G, GPS, Bluetooth and Camera working everyday. That limits me to a Sense based rom until CM7 stabilizes those things. For now, I'm getting by pretty well with Nonsense. It's not been updated recently and has minor flaws but the important things work for me everyday.
No one ROM does everything well. It's all about trade-offs. When you know your own needs, the filtering the choices should be a lot easier.

dynamicpda said:
The answer depends on your needs. For instance, I don't like the look of Sense but I also need 4G, GPS, Bluetooth and Camera working everyday. That limits me to a Sense based rom until CM7 stabilizes those things. For now, I'm getting by pretty well with Nonsense. It's not been updated recently and has minor flaws but the important things work for me everyday.
No one ROM does everything well. It's all about trade-offs. When you know your own needs, the filtering the choices should be a lot easier.
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Check my signature.
All those things work on my setup.

jstalford said:
Destroyer is awesome. Very fast and awesome theming. VaelPak is also really good b/c it's so unique and customizable. IMHO, if you're new to flashing, you need to try, CM or variant of, Miui, VaelPak, and a Z ROM (MikZ or Warm Z).
For sense ROMs, Unleashed is really good. Very fast/smooth and awesome theme options. Best sense ROM IMHO. MikFroyo is also very fast. I can get good battery life out of almost any ROM, but EViO 2 stands out in that area.
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+1 on destroyer buddy! and its very stable!

In my experience with cm7 at least, scrolling in the browser and touch response has lagged for me compared to sense. Savage and evervolv seemed to be better but nothing comes close to the responsiveness using myns warm
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I am currently using CM7 but looking for a sense 2.0 rom - any help?
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imho
been using mik4.5 w/4.1.9 sbc all works get 16 hours a day with everything on updates every hour,fps 54. love it
Tried miui and cant live w/o sense.
Heres my thing, all the sense based roms are pretty much the same just different icons(themes), but if I have to flash abunch of stuff just to make a rom work right, I'm out

Sense rom = Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS5
stable, fast, and it works...
AOSP rom = Ultimate Droid
http://www.udrom.com/forum/
Also stable, fast and completely working Gingerbread for the EVO and several other phones...

What is the best one running or able to wifi tether...I was using fresh and decided for a new look...since I been away I decided on CM7 but I discovered wifi is not working???....Anyone???
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Looking for a new ROM, been using Redemption 2.4 nothing else comes close....

Hey everyone. So I've been using the Redemption ROMs now for quite sometime. I've been looking lately for another ROM as I want to try something a but different but nothing seems to come close in means of speed and battery life. I tried CM7, Sky Raider, a leaked GB, and another that I forget the name and none of them compare to this ROM. Has anyone else found a better ROM than Redemption? Mainly I would like the ability to overclock as well as Sense 3.0, if that combination is even possible.
Thanks in advance, AT
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AlmostTactful said:
Hey everyone. So I've been using the Redemption ROMs now for quite sometime. I've been looking lately for another ROM as I want to try something a but different but nothing seems to come close in means of speed and battery life. I tried CM7, Sky Raider, a leaked GB, and another that I forget the name and none of them compare to this ROM. Has anyone else found a better ROM than Redemption? Mainly I would like the ability to overclock as well as Sense 3.0, if that combination is even possible.
Thanks in advance, AT
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That combination isn't possible yet due to the fact that kernel codes aren't released for the leaked kernel. No overclocking yet my friend on 3.0.
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Try incredibly reengineered, not the Z one.
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Awesome, looking at it now. Question though...since I'm under 10 posts I can't ask him there. Is the 2.4 version downoad link broken for you guys? The latest I can get is the 2.3.1

Last I recall, the download was hosted elsewhere, idk where.
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Yea its hosted at The Mik Mik which is down due to upgrades. I've been using IR 2.3 and 2.4 since I got my incredible back in March but I've recently moved on to the gingersense roms since theyre blazing fast but theyre battery hogs.

I used Redemptive Revolution for a long time, but the interface got old. I started trying the Z roms like WarmZ which I liked a lot. But WarmZ had some stability issues, and a buddy kept talking about his contract being up and getting the Evo 3D. So I started trying Sense 3.0... the Uber Kingdom rom. It looks wonderful, and I'm quite happy with that, but it's definitely not terribly solid yet. It does seem stable, but some stuff is just not working (settings for some apps like weather freeze and FC, text not visible on e-mail widget, etc).
I would follow its progress, as there's only a few spotty issues I've noticed, and the updated interface with Sense 3.0 is really quite nice.

There's always MIUI. It's still in beta, so but is updated weekly. If you're interested head over to http://www.miui.us and check it out. It's what I use and have used for as long as I can remember. I've tried other roms, flashed two today, and yet I keep restoring MIUI within a matter of a couple hours.
Hop on IRC (link at the top of the page), plenty of people around to help out if there's a need for it.

What is the channel? I've been interested in MIUI, but I haven't left CM yet.

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What is the channel? I've been interested in MIUI, but I haven't left CM yet.
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just flashed MIUI its absolutely amazing, ive done cyan, ultimate droid, liquid light, incredibly reengineered z and others MIUI is my fave now then re engineered z

Vote for MIUI as well. I try to go back to other roms, but the really stable ones (SR4, Magnolia, Redemption) are just boring and outdated. Sense 1.0 is boring. Then when I want to try a newer Sense rom, they're either battery hogs (I'm looking at you, GingerSense roms) or slow and laggy (Sense 3.0 roms). Then I go to CM7 and have no issues, but it just doesn't compare to MIUI. MIUI is speedy, and the stock applications (normally I replace them with Go SMS pro, or alternate cameras etc) are amazing. The theme support is amazing. I don't even use the stock launcher (too iPhone-y for me), but with LPP, it truly is an awesome rom.
If you're out to try a new rom, give MIUI a try!

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There's always MIUI. It's still in beta, so but is updated weekly. If you're interested head over to http://www.miui.us and check it out. It's what I use and have used for as long as I can remember. I've tried other roms, flashed two today, and yet I keep restoring MIUI within a matter of a couple hours.
Hop on IRC (link at the top of the page), plenty of people around to help out if there's a need for it.
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Best ROMs for the DINC (I really have tried them all for a at least 4 days each):
Froyo = Sky Raider 4.0 - This one Rocks, and I would love to see it on a GB Platform with Sense 2.0
GB = MIUI - I don't always use (or like) the Mac-like stock MIUI Launcher, but you can use both ADW-ex and Launcher Pro to make it very Sense-like. This ROM makes the DINC last 28 hours with moderate-to-heavy use. It is solid and I have yet to force a reboot. I tried it overclocked, and that does tend to make it FC, but you really don't need to OC it to make it silky smooth. I ran this rom against a Thunderbolt in the Best Buy store, and it beat it in almost every category (screen transitions, app opening/closing, market searches, and even web browsing - what even web-browsing you say? - yes - even web browsing). The rep was scratching his head regarding the web-browsing, but we tried it against a few other phones, and the only one close was a DroidX not the X2 running Gingerbread (from one of the other customers).
My one complaint with all the GB roms is the crappy stock email client with no search functionality (I use Exchange), so I'm waiting with baited breath for a Sense-base GB rom.
Does anyone know if the new Gingerbread with Sense running on the EVO has a better email client than the stock GB mail client (which bites)? I use SkyRaider 4 with Sense 2 on the Froyo platform, but MIUI on the GB platform with LauncherPro to make it as Sense-like as possible. Since the GB mail client neglected the 'Search' functionality, I had to buy the Enhanced Mail client (I'm and Exchange user), but there is no scrolling widget for this. A Sense-based GB rom with a Sense-based mail client would solve all my problems. Bottom line, has anyone seen the Sense Mail client on the new GB-based EVO?

get yourself some miui gingerbread! best thing ive run across. put it on the new tiamat sbc kernel and youll have a fast ass phone thatll last all day

I'm on the Uber Kingdom rom. Still a little rough around the edges, but keep in mind, these sense 3.0 roms are still very young. Give it a few months, now that summer is coming up I'm sure the developers will have a lot more time on their hands to get these running flawlessly

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I'm on the Uber Kingdom rom. Still a little rough around the edges, but keep in mind, these sense 3.0 roms are still very young. Give it a few months, now that summer is coming up I'm sure the developers will have a lot more time on their hands to get these running flawlessly
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Me and incubus and nytergae are going to blow your minds dudring the summer

Just revisited the list of DINC roms on XDA
Just went back to the updated list of roms for the DINC
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=638)
There are a number of GB Sense roms listed that I'm kicking myself for missing. I'll start trying these out and report back. One question about these roms:
Q - Assuming that all these new roms come with their own Kernel, are there any recommended GB with Sense 2/3 kernels for OC, battery life and undervoltage?

Please report any feedback on the new GB Sense ROMs
We have one report back on the Uber Kingdom (rough around the edges), so does anyone else have any 100% stable everything working correctly GB Sense 1/2/3 roms working on the DINC?

klugey1 said:
We have one report back on the Uber Kingdom (rough around the edges), so does anyone else have any 100% stable everything working correctly GB Sense 1/2/3 roms working on the DINC?
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Checkout Nils' Business Gingersense:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104883

Now running Kingdom Stock Gingersense
Since they won't let me post on the XDA-Dev forums yet (not sure why not because I have 10 posts now), I'm posting here to see if anyone knows when the Weather app is going to be fixed. The Weather app works fine, except that every day is listed as Sunday. This Kingdom Stock GingerSense is running very well with no problems yet. The Sense 3 UI is very smooth and fast.
I am going to give Nils Business Gingersense a try now to see if there are any cool Rosie mods. I like having a few more than a 3 button dock that comes with the Sense UI.

klugey1 said:
Since they won't let me post on the XDA-Dev forums yet (not sure why not because I have 10 posts now), I'm posting here to see if anyone knows when the Weather app is going to be fixed. The Weather app works fine, except that every day is listed as Sunday. This Kingdom Stock GingerSense is running very well with no problems yet. The Sense 3 UI is very smooth and fast.
I am going to give Nils Business Gingersense a try now to see if there are any cool Rosie mods. I like having a few more than a 3 button dock that comes with the Sense UI.
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I don't mean this to be a threadjack, but I wanted to go into details about my experience with Uber Kingdom.
I tried PMing Joel, but I can't post yet in the dev forum either. (what a lame new user restriction) My biggest issue with Uber Kingdom is the HTC mail widget. The font on the widget is not visible. When you click on a row, you go to a specific mail and inside the app, it reads fine, but the widget itself doesn't display text, which is quite annoying.
Otherwise, as I said earlier, I'm quite happy with the performance, the interface, etc.
Another few things I'd ideally like to tweak is the stupid theme button on the bottom launcher to be a different button. Once you set up your theme it isn't something you change often enough to need it to be so prominent. (also long clicking on the desktop accomplished the same thing, so it really isn't necessary at all) Normally on the roms I've used, rosie settings, or flashable zips let me set it to settings. I'd like to find a way to do that.
I also like seeing numbers on my battery indicator, which Uber kingdom doesn't.
I would also prefer not showing a statusbar indication that GPS ISN'T enabled. It not being there is enough for me.
Otherwise, seems stable for the passed few days, all the apps I've tried are working. Text Messsages failed to restore from titanium from 2 to 4... but I'm not sure why. They restored from WarmZ to Uber Kingdom 2.

Rom recommendations..

I visit about one every two months or so and don't keep up with what roms are available.
What's on the market right now?

Don't mean to sound rude, but why don't you just peak into the development section?
No need to start a whole new thread for your question when its obvious what ROMs are around by just looking over there.
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a senile fungus said:
Don't mean to sound rude, but why don't you just peak into the development section?
No need to start a whole new thread for your question when its obvious what ROMs are around by just looking over there.
~ I'm a fungi
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I could and have looked in the the development section but I would rather get some suggestions from the XDA community.

I personally prefer mik's ROMs.
Some are posted here (mikg) but I get them from themikmik.com
I also enjoyed miui, it's a different flavor of ROM. Miui gets updated every Friday, but I found a stable version and stuck with it for weeks.
Of course there are your stock builds and ports, and the classic aosp ROMs.
I'm sure everyone has their favorites.
I've been running mik3d for months. Its sense 3.0. Its pretty awesome.
Good luck in your search.
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MIUI nuff said

MIUI. has scrollable Widgets now, best battery life of any rom I have tried and is awesome with V6, 3G and kickasskernelizer tweaks.

Currently using FEARMEde Bliss Hybrid sense3.5... it still has its quirks but love the look and feel. MIUI is great too... if you like the iPhone usability and feel MIUI is the way to go. My son loves it!

Depends what you want...
I love Deck for AOSP. built on CM7 with all the extras removed. Very minimalist and with savage zen's BFS kernel sickly battery life. I personally got my Evo to about 36 hours on medium use.
For sense there's a few ways to go. I personally have found that the sense 3.x ROMs are very sluggish irrelevant of the setup (God mode and whatnot). If you want a semi-sense 3.x feel though you could try Salvage-mod-sense RC1 which is built on Barnacles speedy port of sense 2.1. The dev added in the 3.0 lock screen, and camera app but for the most part its stock 2.1. It's stable and just as fast as the ROMs built off of the OTA Gingerbread updates for the Evo.
There's also the last mentioned ROMs based of the OTA update. I personally loved Swagged out stock, and Smooth and sexy Gingerbread.
A lot of people will say stay away from sense for the battery life alone, but I've noticed with the Freedom agressive kernel or Chop Suey 9.1 SBC I get battery life that's on par with CM7. Not as good as Savage zen, but a good 12-20 hours depending on usage.
Hope this helps.

I've had the best luck with MikG for sense roms, and I've tried them all lately. It also gets updated frequently.
MIUI is great, but I have found it to be annoyingly buggy. I would go with the previous commenters route and stick with one version that works instead of going for the weekly updates (unless they add 4G!).
Another ASOP option is the Nocturnal Xplod rom thats in the earlier stages of development, but still runs really well with some nice animations. If it's been a couple months and you want something different I would try this.

Try this one!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278498

Loving the stability of SOS swag - on, great for everyday use

I have 5 running on my phone now, phone rom and 4 roms that run off sd card within Boot Manager. I can switch to any one of the 5 with a simple reboot. Of the 5 listed in my sig below I am using Evervolv the most, then HighVoltage and then Synergy. OMFGB and SalvageMod are stable and quick but I like to listen to podcasts and music via my Plantronics bluetooth device and a2dp also

My 1st repl/post yo but im running that smooth n sexy v1.6.

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Swagged Out Stock

I personally like shooter. Everything works fine for me on it.

devnulldroid said:
I have 5 running on my phone now, phone rom and 4 roms that run off sd card within Boot Manager. I can switch to any one of the 5 with a simple reboot. Of the 5 listed in my sig below I am using Evervolv the most, then HighVoltage and then Synergy. OMFGB and SalvageMod are stable and quick but I like to listen to podcasts and music via my Plantronics bluetooth device and a2dp also
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resurrecting this thread, what plantronics headset do you use, i cant listen to my music throught it (plantronics explorer 240) and am trying to find a way to be able to do so.

Tbh I Prefer Cyanogenmod 7.1 and Synergy they are fast and are pretty stable with working 4G.

I love all of swag's roms (SOS X 2.09 currently). Another good sense rom is Nitrousv1.4.4.
My favorite AOSP is deck's GB. Love the battery life and stability, never have had any issues.

Tommy's classic
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The mikg roms are solid.

Sense 3.5/3.0 compared to 2.1

I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.

My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1

Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.

^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.

The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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smtom said:
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.

I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.

loonatik78 said:
Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.

wildstang83 said:
Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.

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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.

Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.

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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Tzatlacael said:
I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?

I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.

I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!

wildstang83 said:
[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?

PonsAsinorem said:
I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->

I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
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EI22 roms and why

Ok so I know every one has a different reason for why they like a certain rom.
We have great devs here I have tried the following
Legendary
Acs
Clean Gb
All of them rock and are all different as they are similar.
If you have tried more than one tell me why you stuck with it over the others.
I know the hardcore ACs and Legendary ppl will vote for theirs but only chime in if you have tried more than one. even if the other is not on my list..
Maybe this discussion will help me choose and maybe help other also.

I personally like the "close to stock" roms...don't get me wrong I've done my fair share of flashing to the "extreme" but there doesn't seem to be many headaches with the "close to stock roms" ....just my ¢2
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stepped out for a while and back in
I stepped out for a while and am trying to update my phone. I am so out I do not know how active the forum has been . This is exactly the information I am looking for and am still going to try to dig up . I hope that there is such a thread and that is why this did not take. . .or maybe that the forums are so bustling that there are no less than productive awesomeness going on behind the curtains. . .or hopefully because of the holiday or something because it would be a shame if such a useful thread died a lonely death because there was no evaluating releases thread.
Have no idea. . .just hoping it is as easy to find as the OP intended . . .if not i hope I come back after I was forced to find this info on my own.
I would love some non loyalist (or even loyalists to some extent but not flooding) thread like this.
Thanks OP for at least trying.
Edit: Ok . . .so maybe I was a bit premature in my . . . . .rant. Sorry if this is the case.

I ran Legendary 4.0.1 since it was released and found it to lack nothing. I just switched to ACS 5.1 because the list of mods fit more with my preferences as well as I like the theme better.

Running legendary rom since v3 or so. Why? cause everything just seems to work.
For the theme, I flashed ics v1 on top of legendary rc1 and everything seems to work ok.

It's tough to find a rom with ACS/Legendary features that uses a no-theme approach like the clean GB rom. I'm on Legendary pre-RC because of the theming... and yes, I understand a different one can be flashed on top of it, but this seems to cause more problems than not from experience.
Anyone here remember Energy roms from the WM days? The cook offered them in no less than 6-10 flavors at a time with different kernel builds, homescreen utilities, themes, etc. Is this the only way to please both the "stock look high performance" and "themeed complete rom" crowds?

Not sure if you call this an EI22 Rom but çm7 is rocking my phone as we speak. I also liked starsky rom very reliable and great performance. CPK's Urban Tom is great yet there seems to be A ram leak which cause freezing. Not sure of the cause though, not blaming cpk or the IAP kernel though w/o proof.
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personally i use ICS 5.5 and CM7 because With the devs for ACS i know im in good hands. If a bug arises they fix it almost immediately. As for why i use CM7 thats not even a question IMO. It is the fastest rom you can put on this phone, and the only reason i have a backup rom is for when I need to use things that CM7 cant do simply because they havent been added yet (the number is getting smaller quickly.). I also would recommend trying out CompKids rom because it is a work of art. He tends to not update as much as a lot of the other roms but thats simply because there are a lot of other projects he is working on. But whats great about it is that it has tweaks and code that no other roms have. If you really want a stock feel though i think its safe to stick with Legendary Rom or even just Clean GB. Ive tryed both and though they lacked the theme customization I wanted they were incredibly stable and fast.

I was running Legendary Rom since switching from ACS Frozen Froyo rom. For some reason, the last two versions of Legendary did not agree with my Epic as there was a significant rotation lag. I switched over to ACS ICS for that reason, found that it resolved my rotation lag issue, liked the theme but most importantly all the functions I need to work work with ICS. CM7 still does not have WiMax working, which I use from time to time so it won't be flashed until then (run CM7 on my Nook Color).

Any godam rom that has the drop down drawer drop butter smooth is fine with me. Otherwise Pos.
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Looneyrat said:
Any godam rom that has the drop down drawer drop butter smooth is fine with me. Otherwise Pos.
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Real talk.
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quick99si said:
It's tough to find a rom with ACS/Legendary features that uses a no-theme approach like the clean GB rom. I'm on Legendary pre-RC because of the theming... and yes, I understand a different one can be flashed on top of it, but this seems to cause more problems than not from experience.
Anyone here remember Energy roms from the WM days? The cook offered them in no less than 6-10 flavors at a time with different kernel builds, homescreen utilities, themes, etc. Is this the only way to please both the "stock look high performance" and "themeed complete rom" crowds?
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Energy was as best as you got on WM. I liked the choices you had as far as the UI. But nothing beats Android OS in my mind.

I'm running SleeperROM for its stability and excellent battery life. It's a little bland as far as looks go, but I will sacrifice looks for performance. But I have put the nebula theme over it, and laid down Roboto font. This thing is a beast!
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Clean GB or ck23 UrBan Precision X
Clean GB is great stable and close to stock ROM ... ck23 UrBan is great if you like some cool theming on your ROM

I loaded the legendary rom which was very stable but very stock looking. I enjoy having something a little different. I am now running ACS ICSv5.1 with the honeycomb fusion theme. I love it!
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So far using stock OTA EI22 is the worst smart phone experience I've ever had. Did they even test this before releasing it?
As for the roms I usually flash... I like roms that is closet to stock as possible due to liking the stock widgets and stock apps. The only stock app that annoys me is nascar, sprint football, hd games store, Asphalt 5, and Telenav.
I'll probably be switching over to CM once all the bugs are squished, and I'll end up buying launcher pro plus for the widgets (I've heard they're really high quality).
EI22 is likely the last major update for our phones, and anything other than bug fixes is out of the question. If we are lucky, we'll get an official bug fix to EI22.
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I'm waiting for the freezing issue to get ironed out before I can go back to Urban. I really want to!
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