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Just switched from 3GS

Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?

seanlindo06 said:
Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?
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First, remove task killer. Android does it on its own, and if you root and load a rom I think most of them have an adjustable memory manager now hacked into the kernel.
Second, have fun.
Third, 2.1 isn't a HUGE deal over 1.5 just some new apps available in the market, multi-touch additions...over all feel is the same though.

2.1 also incorporates bluetooth file transfer and most the roms here have the option for live wallpapers, apps 2 sd, and 2 roms now allow overclocking.....super fast. Take the leap......root and enjoy 2.1 but please research, research, research.

troyboytn said:
2and 2 roms now allow overclocking....
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Correction, 3 roms are overclocked But really, 2.1 is just better. I don't know really how to explain it. Better market app, better apps in market, and i've felt that it has been much more stable for me. With the exception of Gumbo 1.5c, I also felt that 1.5 roms were running a little slower for me...

seanlindo06 said:
Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?
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I just switched from my 3GS about a month and a half ago, and I still have a hard time believing how open and free the OS is. That and the service (10 dropped calls a day ring a bell?) were the reasons I switched, besides getting on a Sprint Advantage Plan for $35 / month.
I think I had the phone for about 24 hours before rooting it. Once I did, I tried out some custom 1.5 roms, and they were pretty good.
Then I checked out Fresh 2.0d, which is 2.1 based, and thought... Hey, this is really cool! More app selections, better performance, etc.
Only recently did I decide that having Sense (All the pretty widgets and stuff) was unnecessary and took up too much memory. So I took the plunge into Fresh Toast 1.1, (Fresh 2.0d based) which not only has EXT4 support and overclocking (almost double stock speed) built into the kernel, but has the ability to use swap (virtual memory on your SD Card), JIT (just in time compiler, runs your kernel at a higher rate = faster process / compilation speed, about a 1.5 MFOPS increase... but it does kill sense) and A2SD (installing apps to an ext partition on your SD Card). I've got all these running, and my HTC Hero is now just as fast (most of the time) as my 3GS was.
Hope I was helpful, from one now-apple-hater to another.
PS - if youre hating Apple's closed source platform as much as me and have a personal vendetta (also like me) against them, you should check out this thread for some anti-apple bootscreens.

2.1 And It's Speed
W/ 2.1 you'll notice a huge jump in speed. You'll see transitions are a lot faster and smoother with a lot of apps opening quicker as well. Def something you should try out.

go for root!
welcome to andriod!
if you enjoy how open your phone is now just wait until you root your phone. superuser permission rocks. i love being able to open a terminal and see all of the stuff under the hood. rooting will give you a good recovery where you can easily back up your rom, try new roms and always be able to go back to the one you are most comfortable with.
also... wifi tethering rocks! favorite coffee shop doesnt have free wifi? no problem!
cheers and best of luck!
ryan

Hey all. I also just switched from my 3GS to the Hero a couple of days ago. I know that PPTP VPN support was intruduced with 2.1 but was wondering if anyone had actually tried it on cooked 2.1. Before the hero I tried the Samsung Moment and loaded a 2.1 ROM but VPN was broken.

Happy Rooting! I second the WiFi tether. Greatest invention since sliced bread

Kcarpenter said:
Third, 2.1 isn't a HUGE deal over 1.5 just some new apps available in the market, multi-touch additions...over all feel is the same though.
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WHAT!
I went from an iPhone to a Pre, and decided hey let me try Android 1.5 (this was way before the 2.1 leak) I absolutely hated it, I didn't like having 1 gmail account that would sync I wanted all of them. Multi-Touch, BT transfer, BT phonebook, Wi-Fi on while in Airplane mode(I really need this, and the apps out there don't work quite as well as it does in 2.1) and much much more. I really can't stand 1.5 or 1.6 for that matter. 2.0 and above for me.
If it wasn't for these leaks I'd still be rocking my Pre.

djorijun said:
WHAT!
I went from an iPhone to a Pre, and decided hey let me try Android 1.5 (this was way before the 2.1 leak) I absolutely hated it, I didn't like having 1 gmail account that would sync I wanted all of them. Multi-Touch, BT transfer, BT phonebook, Wi-Fi on while in Airplane mode(I really need this, and the apps out there don't work quite as well as it does in 2.1) and much much more. I really can't stand 1.5 or 1.6 for that matter. 2.0 and above for me.
If it wasn't for these leaks I'd still be rocking my Pre.
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i agree with him
now that i have 2.1 on my phone im actually happier with its features than when it was 1.5.

For me, I just love the new market. For some reason, that's the only reason I like 1.6+ over 1.5-.

New to droid X and Wanna root....HELP!

I have had probably 8-12 Android handsets. I recently switched to an iPhone from my EVO and I hated my iPhone. I wanted to go with something pretty similar to my EVO so I checked out the screen, specs, user reviews, etc. The Droid X sounded great, but since having it, it locks up, freezes, and Lags like a G1. This NOTHING like my EVO and is disappointing to say the least.
I'm really hoping that a custom ROM can speed up the interface and possibly help with the battery life. Any recommendations? I don't want to theme, or skin...no interest in changing the bootlogo, etc... I just want a nice and FAST phone.
I use a lot of apps...I DON'T let any apps refresh automatically though. I also use Launcher Pro. Thanks in advance.
(Please don't tell me to read the sticky. I have. I need some real life experienced reviews....maybe people who have had an EVO or who understand what I want. Thanks)

system6 said:
I have had probably 8-12 Android handsets. I recently switched to an iPhone from my EVO and I hated my iPhone. I wanted to go with something pretty similar to my EVO so I checked out the screen, specs, user reviews, etc. The Droid X sounded great, but since having it, it locks up, freezes, and Lags like a G1. This NOTHING like my EVO and is disappointing to say the least.
I'm really hoping that a custom ROM can speed up the interface and possibly help with the battery life. Any recommendations? I don't want to theme, or skin...no interest in changing the bootlogo, etc... I just want a nice and FAST phone.
I use a lot of apps...I DON'T let any apps refresh automatically though. I also use Launcher Pro. Thanks in advance.
(Please don't tell me to read the sticky. I have. I need some real life experienced reviews....maybe people who have had an EVO or who understand what I want. Thanks)
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LMFAO, i wrote the sticky, which has instructions on how to root and while I havent had the time to update everything I did cover some ROMs which include what you have asked for, so not quite sure what else you could be looking for.... But if you really want an explanation:
Root the phone using z4root and then try out a ROM like Rubix Focused 2.0.1. Drod2169 built the ROM and I am currently using it. The interface is very quick and responsive. He has added in multiple governor settings for overclock which include a conservative governor to allow for better battery life. You can use apps like Droid Overclock (jrummy16) and setCPU to change these governor settings as well. Rubix does very well when overclocked if that is something you are interested in.
If you are looking for a ROM that still has some Blur components in it, then try out Apex 1.4.1 or Rubix 2.0 Blurry. Both are very responsive and have some of the blur that certain people out there are looking for. Last but not least, it seems a great majority of people like Liberty 1.5. I used the ROM for quite some time, and it is very responsive, but a lot of people seem to have issues with lag or reboots. I never had this issue, so I can't quite speak to that issue...
ROM's are really more of a matter of personal choice. Try out a few and see what you like.
As far as a comparison to the EVO... my roommate has one, and 2 of my other best friends have one. I have done MULTIPLE benchmarking tools on their phones to compare against my X (on multiple ROMs). None of their tests have beat mine... In my opinion, the only differences between the EVO and the X is this:
1) Evo has unlocked Bootloader to allow custom kernels so you can run ROMS like CynanogenMod (but given time, CVPCS is compiling CM for the X)
2) Evo has front facing camera for those who can't wait to talk to people via a webcam.
3) Evo has a slightly quicker GPU (graphics processing unit) than the X, but winds up limited to 30FPS for the most part. Some of the benchmarks I have seen on the X jump it up to 62FPS on tests I have run.
4) Evo runs sense from HTC. If you want a "Sense" feel... some have made themes that look just like Sense....but you said you don't want a theme.
That's about it...

SysAdmin-X said:
LMFAO, i wrote the sticky, which has instructions on how to root and while I havent had the time to update everything I did cover some ROMs which include what you have asked for, so not quite sure what else you could be looking for.... But if you really want an explanation:
Root the phone using z4root and then try out a ROM like Rubix Focused 2.0.1. Drod2169 built the ROM and I am currently using it. The interface is very quick and responsive. He has added in multiple governor settings for overclock which include a conservative governor to allow for better battery life. You can use apps like Droid Overclock (jrummy16) and setCPU to change these governor settings as well. Rubix does very well when overclocked if that is something you are interested in.
If you are looking for a ROM that still has some Blur components in it, then try out Apex 1.4.1 or Rubix 2.0 Blurry. Both are very responsive and have some of the blur that certain people out there are looking for. Last but not least, it seems a great majority of people like Liberty 1.5. I used the ROM for quite some time, and it is very responsive, but a lot of people seem to have issues with lag or reboots. I never had this issue, so I can't quite speak to that issue...
ROM's are really more of a matter of personal choice. Try out a few and see what you like.
As far as a comparison to the EVO... my roommate has one, and 2 of my other best friends have one. I have done MULTIPLE benchmarking tools on their phones to compare against my X (on multiple ROMs). None of their tests have beat mine... In my opinion, the only differences between the EVO and the X is this:
1) Evo has unlocked Bootloader to allow custom kernels so you can run ROMS like CynanogenMod (but given time, CVPCS is compiling CM for the X)
2) Evo has front facing camera for those who can't wait to talk to people via a webcam.
3) Evo has a slightly quicker GPU (graphics processing unit) than the X, but winds up limited to 30FPS for the most part. Some of the benchmarks I have seen on the X jump it up to 62FPS on tests I have run.
4) Evo runs sense from HTC. If you want a "Sense" feel... some have made themes that look just like Sense....but you said you don't want a theme.
That's about it...
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The sticky is EPIC...honestly, it's just data and info. I guess I am looking more for opinions. Thank you for the insight.
I had an EVO and that thing had not once, ever, locked up or froze. 2nd day on my Droid X after a hard reset and it is SO laggy.
Unlock screen even lags to get to home. IDK.... I def don't want the "blurware", but the benchmarks on this phone are impressive. It's response and use have not been, in my opinion.
My wife has the Samsung Vibrant and the specs are amazing for that phone too, but NEVER have I seen a phone lock up and freeze so much. She gave her old G1 to my mom and it's like they run at about the same speed.
I'm real tech savy, a huge phone nerd, etc....I just really didn't like my iPhone. I use Apple products for everything else as I am an audio engineer by profession, but the iPhone was SO limited. I had to hack the crap out of it to get basic things that are available on freebie candybar phones.
One thing I have noticed is that it seems to build my photo cache REALLY slow. Now... I have 14 GBs of photo/video on their, but everytime I open a gallery it takes forever to load. It is getting better about this, slowly but surely....do you think my unit is defective, I am expecting too much, or the more I play with it and let it buld a good cache, etc, it will run better?
Thanks for responding, and THANK YOU for the sticky... If I decide to root that thing will be a lifesaver!

system6 said:
The sticky is EPIC...honestly, it's just data and info. I guess I am looking more for opinions. Thank you for the insight.
I had an EVO and that thing had not once, ever, locked up or froze. 2nd day on my Droid X after a hard reset and it is SO laggy.
Unlock screen even lags to get to home. IDK.... I def don't want the "blurware", but the benchmarks on this phone are impressive. It's response and use have not been, in my opinion.
My wife has the Samsung Vibrant and the specs are amazing for that phone too, but NEVER have I seen a phone lock up and freeze so much. She gave her old G1 to my mom and it's like they run at about the same speed.
I'm real tech savy, a huge phone nerd, etc....I just really didn't like my iPhone. I use Apple products for everything else as I am an audio engineer by profession, but the iPhone was SO limited. I had to hack the crap out of it to get basic things that are available on freebie candybar phones.
One thing I have noticed is that it seems to build my photo cache REALLY slow. Now... I have 14 GBs of photo/video on their, but everytime I open a gallery it takes forever to load. It is getting better about this, slowly but surely....do you think my unit is defective, I am expecting too much, or the more I play with it and let it buld a good cache, etc, it will run better?
Thanks for responding, and THANK YOU for the sticky... If I decide to root that thing will be a lifesaver!
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I think the type of sdcard you have also makes a difference. If you have a new class 6 card instead of what the phone comes with (I think it is like class 2 or 3) then the read/write speed should be a lot better. I have been using the latest Rubix ROM for about 2 weeks now, and I don't experience any lag or reboots/freezing. I really like this ROM, and actually talk to Drod2169 (the developer) a decent amount. I would take a look at Rubix or Fission 2.5.7 as these are both blur-free ROM's.
I am also a huge tech nerd/geek. I have tweaked the crap out of my X. I have probably tried every ROM/theme there is for this thing, and right now I'm sitting solid on Rubix. I also used Darkslide 4.2 Blurless for a while. It is a ROM built by BBCrackman and some others over at mydroidworld. I would suggest trying Darkslide out. It is pre-themed by the makers of the ROM but I think it has been the most reliable and snappy ROM I have used besides Rubix 2.0.
If you have questions, shoot them at me in here, or hit me up on gchat.
[email protected] More than happy to help out where I can.

SysAdmin-X said:
I think the type of sdcard you have also makes a difference. If you have a new class 6 card instead of what the phone comes with (I think it is like class 2 or 3) then the read/write speed should be a lot better. I have been using the latest Rubix ROM for about 2 weeks now, and I don't experience any lag or reboots/freezing. I really like this ROM, and actually talk to Drod2169 (the developer) a decent amount. I would take a look at Rubix or Fission 2.5.7 as these are both blur-free ROM's.
I am also a huge tech nerd/geek. I have tweaked the crap out of my X. I have probably tried every ROM/theme there is for this thing, and right now I'm sitting solid on Rubix. I also used Darkslide 4.2 Blurless for a while. It is a ROM built by BBCrackman and some others over at mydroidworld. I would suggest trying Darkslide out. It is pre-themed by the makers of the ROM but I think it has been the most reliable and snappy ROM I have used besides Rubix 2.0.
If you have questions, shoot them at me in here, or hit me up on gchat.
[email protected] More than happy to help out where I can.
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Thanks a million for the cool info and not just a "NOOB RTFM!" response!
I will check out both!

What to use as my daily driver?

i currently have sense 3.0 (vie evil Dees virtuous fusion) and CM7 installed on my mytouch, im not sure which to use as my daily driver, sense 3.0 is super cool and i love the lockscreen features but it uses SOO much ram, cm7 is also duper customizable and saves a butt load of battery life. just need some advice, thanks in advance

I ran iced glacier and royal glacier as they were very stable. But now I'm running faux's AOSP Tom and its my favorite so far. Everything works and its super stable.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

If you like asop nothings faster than Royal Ginger.

It's totally up to your preference. And it shouldn't be affected by RAM consumption - I can't remember how many times it was already said, let Android manage the RAM and stop looking at a number that won't give you absolutely anything, because you don't understand how Android RAM management works.
Personally, I believe Sense got it much better than pure AOSP/CM Android.
AOSP drawbacks:
Dialer is awful (can be fixed by DialerOne, but it's not a proper integration and has annoying quirks + slowness).
Mail is absolutely awful, and Exchange integration is generally bad (you can't pull phone contacts from corporate directory, for example).
Lockscreen isn't very functional (even CM-customized version isn't as useful as Sense 3.0 one, and definitely not as pretty).
Default widgets suck, and LauncherPro Plus costs money.
Probably forgot another couple of things - haven't been using AOSP for a LONG time.
But - there are people that these points don't matter for them, and they prefer the stock feeling. If you're one of them - then go for CM7. Choice is wonderful.

Jack_R1 said:
It's totally up to your preference. And it shouldn't be affected by RAM consumption - I can't remember how many times it was already said, let Android manage the RAM and stop looking at a number that won't give you absolutely anything, because you don't understand how Android RAM management works.
Personally, I believe Sense got it much better than pure AOSP/CM Android.
AOSP drawbacks:
Dialer is awful (can be fixed by DialerOne, but it's not a proper integration and has annoying quirks + slowness).
Mail is absolutely awful, and Exchange integration is generally bad (you can't pull phone contacts from corporate directory, for example).
Lockscreen isn't very functional (even CM-customized version isn't as useful as Sense 3.0 one, and definitely not as pretty).
Default widgets suck, and LauncherPro Plus costs money.
Probably forgot another couple of things - haven't been using AOSP for a LONG time.
But - there are people that these points don't matter for them, and they prefer the stock feeling. If you're one of them - then go for CM7. Choice is wonderful.
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some facts are true here but SENSE compared to CM/AOSP on speed, CM IS WAY FASTER....

bstylz911 said:
some facts are true here but SENSE compared to CM/AOSP on speed, CM IS WAY FASTER....
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No, not really.
When you open Dialer One on CM vs opening Sense dialer, the last one loads equally fast, but has all the pictures in place, and everything flows - while on Dialer One it doesn't.
The same with mail. And you can even zoom in/out in mail on Sense. Try that on CM.
The Sense launcher swipes just fine, and there's no custom launcher that can execute the 7 screen preview like the Sense launcher - when the zoom out is controlled completely by your fingers, and not by launcher presets.
When you open the app, the normal opening delay is insignificant on both.
So, where exactly CM is faster? In benchmarks? I could't care less about the meaningless numbers.

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No, not really.
When you open Dialer One on CM vs opening Sense dialer, the last one loads equally fast, but has all the pictures in place, and everything flows - while on Dialer One it doesn't.
The same with mail.
The launcher swipes fine, and there's no custom launcher that can execute the 7 screen preview like the Sense launcher - when the zoom out is controlled completely by your fingers, and not by launcher presets.
When you open the app, the normal opening delay is insignificant on both.
So, where exactly CM is faster? In benchmarks? I could't care less about the meaningless numbers.
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opening settings, programs it loads faster.

No, it doesn't. And where it does - I'm willing to pay the extra 1/10 second of loading for the quality of user experience.
This whole "CM/AOSP is faster" thing needs to be put in perspective.

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No, it doesn't. And where it does - I'm willing to pay the extra 1/10 second of loading for the quality of user experience.
This whole "CM/AOSP is faster" thing needs to be put in perspective.
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and also, my phone would get laggy when using sense ROYAL PANACHE making me reboot my phone sometimes. and yes i have advance task manager to close my apps.
only thing i like about SENSE is the CAMERA.

Blame your task manager, the apps, the ROM. Sense has nothing to do with quirks that come as a result of porting ROMs with Sense from other phones. My wife runs almost original Sense, my friends run original Sense on their phones, not even one complains about lags. More, I'm not even sure my wife knows how to reboot her phone - I don't think she ever did.
And I didn't even start talking about CM bugs. Till 7.0.2 it was a disaster. I originally switched to Sense on Nexus because I wanted cut&paste, but didn't want the load of bugs that came with Gingerbread, and I was already frustrated by CM7 that had me rebooting more than once a day.
So, as I said earlier, choice is bliss. You can run CM/AOSP, I'll run Sense, someone will run MySense, and we'll all be happy. Just don't try to convince that your choice is the best - each has its pros and cons.

The Usual Question - what ROM for me?

Hiya - I thought I was sooooo cool when I got my Hero - at last I had a fancy phone and I loved it - of course it turned out i was one of the last people to ever actually be sent a Hero and this is why I got a great deal, absolutely nothing to do with being a good customer
So I have my Hero until Jan/feb 2012 - I still love it and it does pretty much everything I want - play music, listen to audiobooks, watch the occasional movie etc however I think I need to liven it up a little by trying out a new Rom.
The phone is rooted and I am currently using Villain12 which has been great - I would not have changed if I had not been playing around with Launchers and no longer use Sense - much prefer ADW Launcher.
Anyway - what is the best Rom for me? - speed and battery life is important and also space for new apps (it must have Aps2SD built in) what puts me off Villain13 is that from what I read a lot of app space is eaten up for some reason. I would also like an Rom with lots of Skins or at least a few I can change it with.
Thanks for answering

CM 7.0.0 maybe?
i guess you should go and download the roms you can find and try them all for a few days?
but beware flashing is adictive x3

CM7 or something based on it e.g. Cronos or Elelinux.

Got some suggestions
I think Elelinux ROM would be great for you, really stable and fast with amazing battery life, Theme chooser and many other options .. really experienced developer as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932377
but as a matter of fact after using this ROM for a long while i missed Sense but the Gingerbread really makes it up until this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090186
Or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076772
is stable for daily use

If any of you are deciding what mod to use..

Just my two cents, but I would strongly advise using Cassie's XtraLiteRom KKA ThunderBolted in the development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365587
I've used Sheep ROM, e.t.c.. and none of them are as fast, stable, or complete as this ROM. It is absolutely awesome. I'll leave the rest up to you, but I figured I would help some of you by pointing towards this ROM.
Give it a go and you won't look back, just make sure you follow the installation process set out!
EDIT: Correction: I meant to say ROM and not MOD in the title - that's what happens if you play too much Skyrim! ''If any of you are deciding what ROM to use..''

How is this one with multitasking? I've played around with Supercharged script on my own and I loved it except it kept closing the apps I was using the moment i put them in the background. Kinda annoying, could you do a quick check (preferably with something CPU/RAM intensive like 3D game or browser with many tabs)??? I'd be really grateful, I'm too lazy to flash a ROM just to get disappointed...

Well, so far so good. Seems perfect.
An issue I've had with other ROM's, is that it always lags in the browser, so far this one doesn't. Over all it feels nippier and smoother, all I can say is try it and see what you think

is that the stock browser, or other browsers?
can you run a test with
- 3rd party browsers (dolphin, miren)
- 3rd party dialers (rocketdial, for eg)
- go launcher ex
would appreciate it if you could give the results, thanks!