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Hi everyone, just notice the news is saying Vista SP1 starting appearing on windows update, just wonder if any of you sees that on your Shift? i click check for update many many times already and it just not there.
I know there is a stand alone install file, but i prefer to automatic download through windows update.
So what is going on, is SP1 on for Shift or not?
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Hi everyone, just notice the news is saying Vista SP1 starting appearing on windows update, just wonder if any of you sees that on your Shift? i click check for update many many times already and it just not there.
I know there is a stand alone install file, but i prefer to automatic download through windows update.
So what is going on, is SP1 on for Shift or not?
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It's coming on Windows Update but not everyone can see it.
I already downloaded it 2 weeks ago (MSDN) and I can recommand it
It takes a long time to install, but after that it's nice to have it.
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So what is going on, is SP1 on for Shift or not?
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Don't know. I did this check for updates several times, and hoppa, once it asked me if I wanted to install the SP1.
That was 18-3 in the evening east european time. In the afternoon I had no luck.
Works great.
Huib
installed, but not very cleanly
Well, after 3 failures, I finally updated to SP1 using Windows Update.
Took a lot longer than an hour I can tell you. Between 2-4 hours per attempt.
In the end, I still had no audio and problems with Shagctrl. Followed instruction on other threads here and they seem to be ok now.
My remaining problem is that he custom buttons on the right side of the screen are no longer mapped. Shagctrl and resolution changer are accessible by running the applications directly, but the buttons don't do anything.
Any ideas?
I tried the beta and notice some great improvements with my videocard. I origianlly scored a 4.5 without it and with it I received a 4.7. The gaming graphics received a much higher score. I uninstalled the SP1 RC1 though in order to aquire the newer release and still have not seen it yet. I do know that MS states they have already started releasing it to the manufactures as of Feb 2008. Who knows.
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I uninstalled the SP1 RC1 though in order to aquire the newer release and still have not seen it yet. I do know that MS states they have already started releasing it to the manufactures as of Feb 2008. Who knows.
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Yes that's correct. It showed up in the partner site a couple of weeks ago.
Otherwise, use this link to download it
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674&DisplayLang=en
VISTA SP1
The direct download is hidden until next week and they really want you to do it via Windows Update.
But here's the link (no MSDN required!!)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6d-5ebb-413b-89c9-cb3d06d12674&DisplayLang=en
DOH!!! Didn't see the full link and thought it was an error.
Thank you for the link. I will be a lot happier now. In your opinion, I have 2gb of ram. Would it be beneficial to buy another 2 gb to have 4gb? The price is right....
You have 2GB RAM on the Shift and wonder whether you should upgrade to 4GB?
First, I don't really believe in the 2 GB - (theoretically possible but hits you with roughly $500 and voids the warranty) and 4Gb is just not possible, that kind of RAM for the Shift does not exist (maybe in some dev labs of RAM manufacturers, ready for release in 2009 ...)
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You have 2GB RAM on the Shift and wonder whether you should upgrade to 4GB?
First, I don't really believe in the 2 GB - (theoretically possible but hits you with roughly $500 and voids the warranty) and 4Gb is just not possible, that kind of RAM for the Shift does not exist (maybe in some dev labs of RAM manufacturers, ready for release in 2009 ...)
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Umm Sorry, I was comfused and was talking about the memory for my PC not PPC since the topic of Vista SP1 was on the board. I would love my phone to even have 1 gig.
I just UNINSTALLED SP1.
There was no problem with screen drivers.
There was no problem with Shift Control Center. (after I uninstalled and re-installed.)
Actualy I was running smoothly but for one thing:
The USB Tool kept disconecting.
I really want the WM to Vista connection to be stable so I can backup my PIM between Vista and WM so... I uninstalled it and everything works fine now.
Greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
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Umm Sorry, I was comfused and was talking about the memory for my PC not PPC since the topic of Vista SP1 was on the board. I would love my phone to even have 1 gig.
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In this case, let's go off topic for a moment:
If you already have 2GB in your desktop, another 2 GB to get to 4GB will probably not change that much (for "normal use"). On the other hand, RAM is cheap (except for the f***ing microDIMMs) and if you should do things like video editing ...
Just one advice: Consider adding only 1GB on top as Windows Vista 32 can only access a maximum of 3.5GB. Putting in the full 4GB would be more than Vista can handle (unless you should be running the 64bit version) and while it just ignores the additional half GB, this is wasted money.
Few hours after Microsoft announced Windows 8 RTM, Windows 8 RTM leaked in wild on different torrent websites. While the leaked version is an N edition of Windows 8 and it doesn’t include the Windows Media Player.
Source: Windows 8 RTM Leaked Online!
Is it legal? I want to try it before I spend my 40 in October..... Mainly because, since I am young...THAT'S ALL THE MONEY I HAVE!
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Is it legal? I want to try it before I spend my 40 in October..... Mainly because, since I am young...THAT'S ALL THE MONEY I HAVE!
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Obviously not. If you download software using torrents et. al. make a good guess on whether this would be legal.
It's a 30 trial without a key, after 30 days it'll take to to the windows store and tell you to buy it (changed the vm date for shots and giggles to check). So I would say its pretty damn legal (aslong as the activation isn't hacked)
I have PRO installed and fully activated with my VLSC key. I am having grief mind with the AMD Catalyst drivers installing and for some reaosn i cant add more email aco****s like i could in the preview. That said though the pro leak at least seems ok.
Hello, So I have been running Windows 8 Pro RTM for a couple days now with an official key from MS and life is good. That is after a few driver issues and a couple bugs but nyah thats to be expected. Anyway I thought i would try out the Media Center and it does look to work ok You get a key and an email etc. But then it crashed and when i tried to enter the key it said that the letter e is invalid and as you can see bellow thats in the key they gave me. This made me look a little closer at the email (screenshot bellow) and i noticed the following:-
The email is from ariatousa.com - they seem to be a distributer for MS but there is next to no info on them hmmm
The windows logo is still using the old style window
the prices do not work out the have a 6.99 subtotal then add 1:12 vat and total at 6.99 (£6.99 was advertised price)
half the links do not work and the others are generic
on there enter new product key here link it just takes you to the ms store with nowhere to enter a key
needless to say i have stopped that card and so far i cant see anything leaving my account but this leave me to wander how "untouched" these leaked rtms are! Anyways long story short it does not work and is most probably a scam.
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This is for the media center right?
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This is for the media center right?
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that is correct. But it looks like its dodgy. You can get to it in the comand panel then add features.
once again, your messing about with something that isn't designed for end users, RTM, Release to manufactures,
Windows 8 is NOT ready for end users at the moment, by that I mean anything from user installs to drivers to supporting services
and im not convinced that the ISOs floating about are legit, or let me put it another way, un tampered with.
its not long folks, RP works well, lets just wait rather than jumping in with two feet in to things we don't fully understand or know are setup correctly.
RTM is exactly the version that Microsoft will sell themselves. It is exactly the version that will be used with Microsoft Signature. There is not some new, magic version that is going to appear by October.
Windows 8 has an insanely high amount of driver support, even supporting older hardware that Windows 7 did not. There was only one piece of hardware that was not installed correctly when I put RTM on a formatted drive and when using "update driver" it worked without rebooting.
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RTM is exactly the version that Microsoft will sell themselves. It is exactly the version that will be used with Microsoft Signature. There is not some new, magic version that is going to appear by October.
Windows 8 has an insanely high amount of driver support, even supporting older hardware that Windows 7 did not. There was only one piece of hardware that was not installed correctly when I put RTM on a formatted drive and when using "update driver" it worked without rebooting.
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Windows 8 is more than just a bunch of binary on a disk or in an ISO
No one said anything about code changes or new versions an build numbers, but lets be clear about something, it doesn't mean it wont change.
Yes windows 8 does have a good level of driver support - but that also changes like the wind and doesn't mean what you get now will be what you get in October
and the thing you completely forget to mention is the supporting services of Windows 8, its more than just an OS, it has to make contact with countless different online systems and updating procedures all of which WILL change before the October release and all of which will make a difference to the end user
Getting all flared up now about an unreleased product which is exactly what it is, is just daft.
Have patience and wait for MS to get it all together including reliable ISOs
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once again, your messing about with something that isn't designed for end users, RTM, Release to manufactures,
Windows 8 is NOT ready for end users at the moment, by that I mean anything from user installs to drivers to supporting services
and im not convinced that the ISOs floating about are legit, or let me put it another way, un tampered with.
its not long folks, RP works well, lets just wait rather than jumping in with two feet in to things we don't fully understand or know are setup correctly.
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Im sorry I didnt realize that testing an RTM OS as if it was bought from the shop was a bad thing. After all this should be the same as the ISO MS will be giving me on the 15th. Should i just install it and do nothing then report back on how pretty it looks and how bright the ui is? I am using this and comenting on it as a finished product because thats what RTM is supposed to be. I understand some things need other services to be up and running hence why i tested this I then reported back so that others dont have to!
As for my other thread you would notice that i said most of the gripes are drivers and that can not be blamed on MS nore am i saying anything against them. I love MS i am in fact quite a bit of a fan from my Zune, XBox, Multiple Windows Phones, Office, Active Directory all these things on a daily bases make my life much better. All i am doing is testing a product that is fully activated and reporting on what i find. If you want me to right about all the great things i could write a book. Not that anyone would read it my english sucks and it would sound like a fanboi crazed on a new toy.
RTM is finished any updates will come down via windows updates and yes i expect there to be many. But unless a lot changes between now and the 15th then they have to expect this to be what we get and that is 6 days from now.
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Windows 8 is more than just a bunch of binary on a disk or in an ISO
No one said anything about code changes or new versions an build numbers, but lets be clear about something, it doesn't mean it wont change.
Yes windows 8 does have a good level of driver support - but that also changes like the wind and doesn't mean what you get now will be what you get in October
and the thing you completely forget to mention is the supporting services of Windows 8, its more than just an OS, it has to make contact with countless different online systems and updating procedures all of which WILL change before the October release and all of which will make a difference to the end user
Getting all flared up now about an unreleased product which is exactly what it is, is just daft.
Have patience and wait for MS to get it all together including reliable ISOs
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Actually RTM is the final version, by definition RTM is the version that is currently being mass produced. (RTM stands for Ready To Manufacture.....durr.)
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im sorry i wasnt aware that MS had released anything to the general public other than DP CP and RP for testing
using a leaked copy that may not be safe and may not even be legit or complete, trying to run up against services that may not be completed is simply daft
and yes RTM does mean released to manufactures, well done for pointing that out but that doesnt make it fit for public use just now, the OS is more than just an OS on a disk, it has many on line components that are not completed or finished.
what we end up with is a situation where someone tries to do something and it doesnt work as expected and because it is RTM its seen as a big deal which just adds more FUD to a FUD mountain thats been building up over the last 6 months or so.
let MS get it wrapped up, then we can judge it
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im sorry i wasnt aware that MS had released anything to the general public other than DP CP and RP for testing
using a leaked copy that may not be safe and may not even be legit or complete, trying to run up against services that may not be completed is simply daft
and yes RTM does mean released to manufactures, well done for pointing that out but that doesnt make it fit for public use just now, the OS is more than just an OS on a disk, it has many on line components that are not completed or finished.
what we end up with is a situation where someone tries to do something and it doesnt work as expected and because it is RTM its seen as a big deal which just adds more FUD to a FUD mountain thats been building up over the last 6 months or so.
let MS get it wrapped up, then we can judge it
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Im sorry when i started this i was not inteding it to be a slate on the OS at all, we all understand that the backgroud services need to come online. I did it as a test on an account that is not my main one as i thought the onformation would be usefull or at least interesting. I was hopeing it was up and i could be like hay guys it actually works but when it didnt i posted nothing till i noticed some odd points on the email. It was more a warning to say dont try it as being a leaked version it could be running a scam to steal card information.
I will also try again on wednesday when i do have the official iso from MS. And once again i will post the results as well as a load of other tests. If this makes the os look bad thats not the intention or am i trying to add FUD. Many things i will test will also not be down to the OS ie catalyst drivers speed checks etc.
Actually RTM stands for release to manufacturing. RTM versions are sent to distributors for digital and phyical distrobution.
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Actually RTM stands for release to manufacturing.
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yeah was gonna say the same thing
AndroHero said:
Actually RTM stands for release to manufacturing. RTM versions are sent to distributors for digital and phyical distrobution.
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yeah was gonna say the same thing
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Baa, play with words
Oh dear lord.
As other pointed out, RTM = Released to Manufacturing.
What this means is that the final build they created for RTM is what they made the ISO out of that the disc manufacturing plant(s) are going to use as the master to replicate the physical copies for retail shelves. This is also the same build they released to hardware manufactures and the like.
There will be NO CHANGES from this point on to the released bits.
Now, there have been a few minor updates and whatnot released, but all in all, been pretty stable. I run the Enterprise RTM at work and Pro RTM at home. These are no longer TEST builds, this is what is shipping on the 26th.
Sorry about mistaking rtm lol my bad I facepalmed when I saw my mistake.
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Ok, so all the win 8 services and features are 100% complete, there is nothing more to get, this wee waiting game where MS could be selling digital copies to jo public, is actually nothing more than thumb twiddling exercise to waste some cash. No, the ISO an disks are readyish, but there will be changes to services and updates and the ISO that was leaked can't be assumed perfect. Simply put, wait until it is released before palming down judgment on things that may not work right yet.
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ok I have just downloaded windows 8 pro from TechNet activated it and the media center option is not there making it even more sus that it was in the leaked build.
i hate to drag up an old thread but thought it was slightly related to my question...
can any one actually explain how we DO get MC?
I hear a lot of stuff about packs, addons, pay for, free, economic but I am buggered if I can actually find any means to order the bloody thing
MC is a primary function for me so I could really do with finding out what licence options are available, full / upgrade / download / physical, pro / pro pack etc etc
anyhow, anyone have any ideas...
note that im NOT talking about the RP MCE, im running that on this MC at the moment im talking fully legit MC for RTM
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i hate to drag up an old thread but thought it was slightly related to my question...
can any one actually explain how we DO get MC?
I hear a lot of stuff about packs, addons, pay for, free, economic but I am buggered if I can actually find any means to order the bloody thing
MC is a primary function for me so I could really do with finding out what licence options are available, full / upgrade / download / physical, pro / pro pack etc etc
anyhow, anyone have any ideas...
note that im NOT talking about the RP MCE, im running that on this MC at the moment im talking fully legit MC for RTM
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I think you might need the Pro Pack that retails for £49.99GBP for MC it also includes Bit Locker Drive Encryption and Business stuff like Domains, but it seems a tad expensive considering that the Pro upgrade retails for £49.99GBP so a total of £it 99.98GBP for the complete package if you want all around Launch day. I've Pre-Ordered the Pro Upgrade, might go for the Pro Pack at a later date but as I don't use most of the Pro Pack stuff that came free in Win 7 Ultimate it's not much of a rush to want it yet.
Roland
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I think you might need the Pro Pack that retails for £49.99GBP for MC it also includes Bit Locker Drive Encryption and Business stuff like Domains, but it seems a tad expensive considering that the Pro upgrade retails for £49.99GBP so a total of £it 99.98GBP for the complete package if you want all around Launch day. I've Pre-Ordered the Pro Upgrade, might go for the Pro Pack at a later date but as I don't use most of the Pro Pack stuff that came free in Win 7 Ultimate it's not much of a rush to want it yet.
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Hmm, It does appear to be that way doesn't it.
damn, that doesn't make much sense tho, doesn't Pro come with bitlocker anyway? so you need to have win 8 pro to get the pro pack and in the sys requirments for pro pack it states
"Other System Requirements
Microsoft account required for some features. Watching DVDs requires separate playback software. Windows Media Center licence sold separately "
surely they don't mean you have to spend 49.99 to get WMC then a further fee to get DVD codec support
id happily spend 50 on my media centre for win 8 download, but a ton total? im not sure I can be bothered, a work station is one thing but oh dear, I fear MS and its Marketing dept have struck again.
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Its hardly official but this windows blog post suggests things will be very different
Here
there've been a lot of windows 8 versions before it's official release, which is the most similar to the official release to download in my notebook?
If you have access to tech net or dreamspark premium then you can get the rtm in its various flavors (I think my school only offers professional) already. This is the final build and is what you get if you buy (or "buy") it on release day.
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Windows 8 RTM..but you can get it only if you have technet subscription.....otherwise you can not activate RTM..all the KMS servers are down right now...hence you can try win8 release preview ver8400...rtm is 9200.
You can also get it by VLC. Also you can get a 90 day free trial but you then have to uninstall and build again with a proper copy after the 90 days, but this is a good way to try it and almost all settings etc get uploaded to your live account.
One of the kms, well not Microsoft is online. Just activated.
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If you youtube around you can find keys for Pro and ProWMC that work with the phone activation, I am fully activated, no 180 days, fully activated, on Windows 8 ProWMC with a key i found on youtube
So if I get the version off of dreamspark this is the same as buying retail?
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So if I get the version off of dreamspark this is the same as buying retail?
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Yes.
Hi,
is there something know if Windows Blue will be a new Version you need to buy, or if Microsoft brings Christmas forward and all Win 8 users get the new Update??
For PC it doesn't matter for me, i'll get the new 8.1 but for Surface??
Also it would be nice to know if a complete reinstalle is necessary.
Would be great if someone has some Information about this
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Hi,
is there something know if Windows Blue will be a new Version you need to buy, or if Microsoft brings Christmas forward and all Win 8 users get the new Update??
For PC it doesn't matter for me, i'll get the new 8.1 but for Surface??
Also it would be nice to know if a complete reinstalle is necessary.
Would be great if someone has some Information about this
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I assume everyone gets the update if on Windows 8
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Almost surely it won't require a complete reinstall. The are going to bring back the Start Menu in a limited form. It will just be a link to the desktop and not include the full Start Menu. This follows a planned move: a boot to desktop option. Microsoft will add an option to allow users to boot directly to the traditional desktop.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/22/4251610/windows-8-1-start-button
That sounds great. I'm really looking forward to the 50:50 dock
8.1 is interesting. Per MS' new "devices & services" direction, it would've been a paid update in normal circumstances--as also denoted by the "8.1" designation, since only "service packs" were free updates under the old regime. But I agree with others that it'll be a free update, as circumstances are definitely not normal. Win8's foothold is tenuous at best, and the antipathy it has engendered would be nothing compared to the sh!tstorm that would occur if MS decides to charge for this one. I doubt even MS is that oblivious.
As for the "menu or button" thing, it's not cast in stone. We'll see what happens. It may seem a little amusing that such a trivial change is even debated over, but that is how delicately Metro's fate hangs in the balance.
I like the turmoil. Turbulence is good, as it rouses the monopolist and forces it to compete on other than sheer inertia (which there still is plenty of). That usually means a better widget or a better price, and either way the consumer wins.
It's safe to guess that Wintel toys will be cheaper come this holiday season. That would not happen if Win8 was a breakout hit. Thank Apple for its trailblazing, Android for its lowballing, and MS for its usual ineptness. Tomorrow is another fun day.
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And it is said that it will support smaller [email protected]
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Hi,
is there something know if Windows Blue will be a new Version you need to buy, or if Microsoft brings Christmas forward and all Win 8 users get the new Update??
For PC it doesn't matter for me, i'll get the new 8.1 but for Surface??
Also it would be nice to know if a complete reinstalle is necessary.
Would be great if someone has some Information about this
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No It's A Big Update.
You can update your windows 8 pro or RT to win 8.1 pro preview by downloading 9 MB from win store then while installing the 9MB pack it will download immediately 1GB or more...
If you are running other vertion of windows (other than pro or RT) you have to download the hole windows 2.5 GB (32bit) / 3.5 GB (64bit)
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No It's A Big Update.
You can update your windows 8 pro to win 8.1 pro preview by downloading 9 MB from win store
If you are running other vertion of windows (other tthan pro) you have to download the hole windows 2.5 GB (32bit) / 3.5 GB (64bit)
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Not just Pro. Also RT.. But if you upgrade to 8.1 on your RT device you will lose your legacy apps meaning you would have to wait for another jailbreak for it.
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Not just Pro. Also RT.. But if you upgrade to 8.1 on your RT device you will lose your legacy apps meaning you would have to wait for another jailbreak for it.
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Thanks for correction
(I have corrected my answer)
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No It's A Big Update.
You can update your windows 8 pro or RT to win 8.1 pro preview by downloading 9 MB from win store
If you are running other vertion of windows (other than pro or RT) you have to download the hole windows 2.5 GB (32bit) / 3.5 GB (64bit)
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The update is greater than 9mb, the 9mb file from the store is just the installer, the installer then downloads something like a gb or so on top of that.
thanks i allready read, that all win 8 user get 8.1.
Windows 8.1 rockzzzzz
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Windows 8.1 rockzzzzz
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Not on RT lol. We lost our jailbreak and our working drivers for it.
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The update is greater than 9mb, the 9mb file from the store is just the installer, the installer then downloads something like a gb or so on top of that.
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(I have corrected my answer)
where is metro file manager?
^Metro file manager is in the Skydrive app
I m on Win 8 pro 64 bit.. So I will get the update of 8.1 or I have to reinstall afresh ??
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I m on Win 8 pro 64 bit.. So I will get the update of 8.1 or I have to reinstall afresh ??
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