Hi,
is there something know if Windows Blue will be a new Version you need to buy, or if Microsoft brings Christmas forward and all Win 8 users get the new Update??
For PC it doesn't matter for me, i'll get the new 8.1 but for Surface??
Also it would be nice to know if a complete reinstalle is necessary.
Would be great if someone has some Information about this
HandyBesitzer said:
Hi,
is there something know if Windows Blue will be a new Version you need to buy, or if Microsoft brings Christmas forward and all Win 8 users get the new Update??
For PC it doesn't matter for me, i'll get the new 8.1 but for Surface??
Also it would be nice to know if a complete reinstalle is necessary.
Would be great if someone has some Information about this
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I assume everyone gets the update if on Windows 8
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Almost surely it won't require a complete reinstall. The are going to bring back the Start Menu in a limited form. It will just be a link to the desktop and not include the full Start Menu. This follows a planned move: a boot to desktop option. Microsoft will add an option to allow users to boot directly to the traditional desktop.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/22/4251610/windows-8-1-start-button
That sounds great. I'm really looking forward to the 50:50 dock
8.1 is interesting. Per MS' new "devices & services" direction, it would've been a paid update in normal circumstances--as also denoted by the "8.1" designation, since only "service packs" were free updates under the old regime. But I agree with others that it'll be a free update, as circumstances are definitely not normal. Win8's foothold is tenuous at best, and the antipathy it has engendered would be nothing compared to the sh!tstorm that would occur if MS decides to charge for this one. I doubt even MS is that oblivious.
As for the "menu or button" thing, it's not cast in stone. We'll see what happens. It may seem a little amusing that such a trivial change is even debated over, but that is how delicately Metro's fate hangs in the balance.
I like the turmoil. Turbulence is good, as it rouses the monopolist and forces it to compete on other than sheer inertia (which there still is plenty of). That usually means a better widget or a better price, and either way the consumer wins.
It's safe to guess that Wintel toys will be cheaper come this holiday season. That would not happen if Win8 was a breakout hit. Thank Apple for its trailblazing, Android for its lowballing, and MS for its usual ineptness. Tomorrow is another fun day.
Screen Resolution
And it is said that it will support smaller [email protected]
http://www.zdnet.com/new-windows-8-hardware-specs-hint-at-7-inch-tablets-and-a-microsoft-reader-7000013271/
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HandyBesitzer said:
Hi,
is there something know if Windows Blue will be a new Version you need to buy, or if Microsoft brings Christmas forward and all Win 8 users get the new Update??
For PC it doesn't matter for me, i'll get the new 8.1 but for Surface??
Also it would be nice to know if a complete reinstalle is necessary.
Would be great if someone has some Information about this
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No It's A Big Update.
You can update your windows 8 pro or RT to win 8.1 pro preview by downloading 9 MB from win store then while installing the 9MB pack it will download immediately 1GB or more...
If you are running other vertion of windows (other than pro or RT) you have to download the hole windows 2.5 GB (32bit) / 3.5 GB (64bit)
Hope I helped you
NH Kom said:
No It's A Big Update.
You can update your windows 8 pro to win 8.1 pro preview by downloading 9 MB from win store
If you are running other vertion of windows (other tthan pro) you have to download the hole windows 2.5 GB (32bit) / 3.5 GB (64bit)
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Not just Pro. Also RT.. But if you upgrade to 8.1 on your RT device you will lose your legacy apps meaning you would have to wait for another jailbreak for it.
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xWolf13 said:
Not just Pro. Also RT.. But if you upgrade to 8.1 on your RT device you will lose your legacy apps meaning you would have to wait for another jailbreak for it.
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NH Kom said:
No It's A Big Update.
You can update your windows 8 pro or RT to win 8.1 pro preview by downloading 9 MB from win store
If you are running other vertion of windows (other than pro or RT) you have to download the hole windows 2.5 GB (32bit) / 3.5 GB (64bit)
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The update is greater than 9mb, the 9mb file from the store is just the installer, the installer then downloads something like a gb or so on top of that.
thanks i allready read, that all win 8 user get 8.1.
Windows 8.1 rockzzzzz
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Windows 8.1 rockzzzzz
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Not on RT lol. We lost our jailbreak and our working drivers for it.
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The update is greater than 9mb, the 9mb file from the store is just the installer, the installer then downloads something like a gb or so on top of that.
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where is metro file manager?
^Metro file manager is in the Skydrive app
I m on Win 8 pro 64 bit.. So I will get the update of 8.1 or I have to reinstall afresh ??
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rex28818 said:
I m on Win 8 pro 64 bit.. So I will get the update of 8.1 or I have to reinstall afresh ??
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Now wouldn't that be the ****
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Iconia W500.
What's next for the ultimate HD2
Wouldn't that be something if windows ran on the iconic HD2 that i just sold for my sensation LOL. I'll never unestimate the power of that device
infrared_guy said:
Wouldn't that be something if windows ran on the iconic HD2 that i just sold for my sensation LOL. I'll never unestimate the power of that device
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Truthfully, I think that might be the first thing that the devs can't pull off... The again, Windows 8 will have ARM support (read: no legacy apps, where 99.9% of windows x86/64 bit).... so we'll wait and See.
Dont get your hopes up, its closed source.
most likely, it's not happin'n
I tend to agree that it won't happen, people will try, they might make progress but it seems unlikely.
I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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Yeah but how about W8 running on a 100$ piece of hardware? I mean how inexpensive can you get?
Why do people worry so much about Windows ARM version not running legacy apps?? New apps will be created for Windows 8 that integrate with Metro, I'm pretty sure that all respectable software companies and even independent developers are starting to plan and make ARM based apps for Windows 8. Windows 8 will be powerful, and software companies need to start developing the next generation of applications eventually.
ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Why do people worry so much about Windows ARM version not running legacy apps?? New apps will be created for Windows 8 that integrate with Metro, I'm pretty sure that all respectable software companies and even independent developers are starting to plan and make ARM based apps for Windows 8. Windows 8 will be powerful, and software companies need to start developing the next generation of applications eventually.
ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Don't you know the difference between Legacy apps and New apps?
and for your information, ARM may or may not be the future. Only time will tell.
dalethefarmer said:
ARM is the future, x86 is done and I refuse to buy an Intel tablet or next gen AMD all-in-one. And please don't tell me you want to open your excel spreadsheet on your tablet on your way home on the train, on, cause it's not 'cool'. /vent
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Please... x86 isn't going anywhere for a long time.
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jasongw said:
I think I'd rather just wait for official Windows 8 tablet hardware. They'll no doubt be superior (since most will run Tegra 3 if not 4), and who knows what they'll do with the digitizers. I'm hopeful that we'll get a Wacom digitizer that handles both capacitive touch and resistive with extensive pressure sensitivity for use in digital illustration. Time will tell.
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Win 8 doesn't have support for Tegra yet.
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Win 8 doesn't have support for Tegra yet.
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yet. it will get arm support and then some. windows 8 looks more mature than android 3.0 and i love android.
i am using WP7 on my HD2 and it is kinda growing on me. Looks like microsoft is finally doing something right
I Can't wait till the ARM version leaks, or will it ever since it's not going to be sold as a standalone?
inasar said:
yet. it will get arm support and then some. windows 8 looks more mature than android 3.0 and i love android.
i am using WP7 on my HD2 and it is kinda growing on me. Looks like microsoft is finally doing something right
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Mikey$oft doing something right?
Well I had faith in them when I got my HD7 running WP7 and installed Windows 7 for the first time.... Basically they had me from the 'Start'
But to be honest I'm using Windows 8 now and I can't explain it but it just 'feels' different, kinda like my cell phone and PC had a baby.
Well I know that the hp touchpad wont be able to run it. A developer said it would be impossible.
I really dont think microsoft will allow you to load win 8 tablet on any tablet, im sure there going to try and control everything
DemiNutive said:
Mikey$oft doing something right?
Well I had faith in them when I got my HD7 running WP7 and installed Windows 7 for the first time.... Basically they had me from the 'Start'
But to be honest I'm using Windows 8 now and I can't explain it but it just 'feels' different, kinda like my cell phone and PC had a baby.
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Please tell me how you flashed win 7 i am noob here
Well, would you look at that!
HP Testing Windows 8 on TouchPads
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/24/hp-testing-windows-8-on-touchpads
bigboy292000 said:
Well, would you look at that!
HP Testing Windows 8 on TouchPads
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/24/hp-testing-windows-8-on-touchpads
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Saw that earlier today as well... hoping that gets leaked too.
Windows 8 on the Touchpad would be great.
Has anyone heard of a win8 arm beta program?
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Thank God. Only two editions to chose for x86/64 devices and one for ARM devices.
Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro are for x86/64, while WindowsRT will be for gizmos running on ARM.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx
Hey... I thought there would be two versions Windows 8 M (Metro UI) Edition and Windows 8 N (Normal-Human-User Friendly) Edition... ROTFL
Actually there are 3 editions, that link is misleading.
Read through, and you'll see there's regular, pro, AND enterprise. But only those two will be available to consumers. Just like vista and 7, enterprise will only be available in volume licensing.
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Hey... I thought there would be two versions Windows 8 M (Metro UI) Edition and Windows 8 N (Normal-Human-User Friendly) Edition... ROTFL
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Clearly you have not been following the Win 8 much.
I was really happy to see this, with one exception: That Media Center will only be available to Pro. What the **** were they thinking? Make the goddamn thing available to either version, even if you charge a fee for it. Jesus Christ.
Other than that, I'm happy to see Windows 8 consolidating editions and simplifying choices. I'll be preordering licenses as soon as they announce an early adopter deal
samsabri said:
Thank God. Only two editions to chose for x86/64 devices and one for ARM devices.
Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro are for x86/64, while WindowsRT will be for gizmos running on ARM.
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/.../04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx
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lamborg said:
Clearly you have not been following the Win 8 much.
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as a matter of fact i have not... i tried early leaked released and was pretty much fine with developer preview... but i hate metroui and would definitely not upgrade in case they decide to keep the start menu removed as they did in consumer preview... its simply not for non-touch screen devices..
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I was really happy to see this, with one exception: That Media Center will only be available to Pro. What the **** were they thinking? Make the goddamn thing available to either version, even if you charge a fee for it. Jesus Christ.
Other than that, I'm happy to see Windows 8 consolidating editions and simplifying choices. I'll be preordering licenses as soon as they announce an early adopter deal
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its not terribly clear whats going on with media centre is it
any review of latest win 8 ??
As i used pre release version only
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Just would like to see what the price is for the upgrade.
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Hey guys, just came across this article that compares the features of RT and Windows 8 Pro version
Should I get the windows RT, which will be cheaper and I will get office with it. Or should I get Windows 8 Pro? (I'm aware of the $40 upgrade but this is mainly for buying a new computer)
Will the metro apps take care of most of the computing needs? I only need office and photoshop, everything else is done in browser.
Source
np231 said:
Hey guys, just came across this article that compares the features of RT and Windows 8 Pro version
Should I get the windows RT, which will be cheaper and I will get office with it. Or should I get Windows 8 Pro? (I'm aware of the $40 upgrade but this is mainly for buying a new computer)
Will the metro apps take care of most of the computing needs? I only need office and photoshop, everything else is done in browser.
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Get Windows 8 Pro. Think of them like this:
Windows 8 Pro includes:
- Traditional desktop apps, so think of all the apps for Win 7
- Tablet apps, apps that you find on the store
Windows RT only includes the "tablet apps."
What Microsoft essentially did was create a system within Win8 where they added a layer where it functions as a tablet and all the tablet apps also work on Win 8. Pretty slick, but a little confusing. Example, an app behaves differently within metro than within traditional Windows... Overall, for $40, if all your apps work with Win8, then it's definitely worth the price.
Errr. Do you have a hybrid pc or something like that? RT version doesnt sell just like this. Windows 8 RT just come within your new tablet/ARM gadget. You cant purchase and install it.
You just have Windows 8, Windows 8 Pro and Enterprise (if im not mistaken). Anyway, Get Windows 8. There is no need to get Pro version.
Use Enterprise if you need wtg if not professional.
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Enterprise also allows side loading metro apps a bit off topic for this but worth saying as this is a dev forum. Though i think enterprise is only available to business users (i may be mistaken as i have access to it i have not really checked but i did hear this).
I have downloaded msdn enterprise rtm trial to make my own wtg. When windows 8 releases I'll use pro.
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Errr. Do you have a hybrid pc or something like that? RT version doesnt sell just like this. Windows 8 RT just come within your new tablet/ARM gadget. You cant purchase and install it.
You just have Windows 8, Windows 8 Pro and Enterprise (if im not mistaken). Anyway, Get Windows 8. There is no need to get Pro version.
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I am aware that Windows 8 RT comes with the device, you can't buy it. But, I was asking if it would be worth it to buy that device with RT or wait for Windows 8 Pro b/c the battery life might be really bad with the Pro version.
np231 said:
I am aware that Windows 8 RT comes with the device, you can't buy it. But, I was asking if it would be worth it to buy that device with RT or wait for Windows 8 Pro b/c the battery life might be really bad with the Pro version.
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I think the point is, no one knows.
patience my friend, it wont be long now and the inter Wibble will be full of reviews to pick over.
Battery life will depend greatly on the devices hardware. According to what Intel claims Intel Atom based tablets will be available with a battery life of up to 10 hours. Those would support Windows 8 Pro and should offer comparable battery life to Windows RT tablets. But I guess we will have to wait until they are actually on the market to answer this.
you cannot buy Windows RT standalone, it only runs on ARM CPU's and is only available preinstalled on ARM hardware, dilemma solved.
np231 said:
I only need office and photoshop, everything else is done in browser
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Photoshop will not be released(at least in full form) on RT. That means that an RT device is totally worthless.
phailyoor said:
Photoshop will not be released(at least in full form) on RT. That means that an RT device is totally worthless.
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It will be, if it is there for Android tablets, it will be released for Windows 8 RT as well.
TravisAntonio said:
It will be, if it is there for Android tablets, it will be released for Windows 8 RT as well.
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Photoshop for android is not Photoshop. It's photoshop express, and contains an extremely limited subset of features. Photoshop does everything you could imagine that's photo related. Photoshop express for android just does common photo editing tasks.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouch
this is PS for tablets, it's something different than PS express
I don't think Windows RT worth it. Its like windows 8 retarded.
true that it would be cheaper but still should cost as much as an ipad or android tablet.But with the ipad u got a whole lots of apps, while there's plenty for android too. There are not much app for RT right now.
Capabilities wise, windows 8 come first. android is quite a powerful mobile os, then there's the jailbroken ipad. WinRT is the worst of these bunch
So no apps,no capability should equal no buy
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phailyoor said:
Photoshop for android is not Photoshop. It's photoshop express, and contains an extremely limited subset of features. Photoshop does everything you could imagine that's photo related. Photoshop express for android just does common photo editing tasks.
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darth5zaft said:
I don't think Windows RT worth it. Its like windows 8 retarded.
true that it would be cheaper but still should cost as much as an ipad or android tablet.But with the ipad u got a whole lots of apps, while there's plenty for android too. There are not much app for RT right now.
Capabilities wise, windows 8 come first. android is quite a powerful mobile os, then there's the jailbroken ipad. WinRT is the worst of these bunch
So no apps,no capability should equal no buy
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It's just matter of time for apps to go out. I'm going to join Win8 Development soon.
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441Excelsior said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.pstouch
this is PS for tablets, it's something different than PS express
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Whoops. It's still not full photoshop though, and only comes with very basic functionality.
Also-4MP image size limit. not enough for most pro photo editing.
phailyoor said:
Whoops. It's still not full photoshop though, and only comes with very basic functionality.
Also-4MP image size limit. not enough for most pro photo editing.
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Why are you so focused on going agaisn't Windows 8 RT?, look at the good side of it... :fingers-crossed:
phailyoor said:
Whoops. It's still not full photoshop though, and only comes with very basic functionality.
Also-4MP image size limit. not enough for most pro photo editing.
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And that's why ALL pro photo editing is done on a proper PC and not a tablet. This is a joke saying RT is rubbish because of this I mean name 1 pro that will use a tablet let alone a competitors one ie android or ipad. Its like the world has lost the plot and the rubbish I read spewing over the web about windows 8 is some of the worst fud I have ever seen.
If your going for photo editing you need to be looking at least at a pro hybrid but I would say you will need more grunt like a dell xps machine.
I am going to buy the Windows 8 Pro version on release and get the upgrade for £25.00.
Windows 8 is 20% faster than Win7 in following Startup, Shutdown, Gaming, Browsing and general app loading
On top of that security is alot better than 7
WTF? if you want to side load apps you have to download SDK 8.0 which isn't a problem, the problem is that you have to have Windows 8 64-bit version... WTF? what if I don't want to upgrade to that crappy OS? There are so many developers and WP8 fans that would rather not user Windows 8. Way to go MS...someone over at MS needs to get fired.
Why not upgrade to W8? You can always dual boot W7 at no charge, so you will have the best of both worlds. Yeah?
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Upgrade to W8 is 30€ at the moment and running W8 on desktop mode is basically the same os as 7, only faster on boot etc... Why wouldnt you upgrade?
I was able to get the upgrade for 15€, but I think MS made it more difficult to get the discount now.
people just hate w8 because they are either not able to understand how the metro start menue replacement works or they just heard its crap.
Guys, guys... don't get me wrong; I do undestand Windows 8, I used it for quite a good while as my primary os on my desktop and my laptop but since neither is a touch device, the experience basically sucks. I will however consider the dual boot thing or virtual machine but still MS should not leave out those that continue to use Windows 7.
sinister1 said:
Guys, guys... don't get me wrong; I do undestand Windows 8, I used it for quite a good while as my primary os on my desktop and my laptop but since neither is a touch device, the experience basically sucks. I will however consider the dual boot thing or virtual machine but still MS should not leave out those that continue to use Windows 7.
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why cant you use it with mouse and keyboard? are the icons to big? using it for 8 month now and somehow cant complain but it might be just me and maybe because i have dualscreen and dont use metro apps that much
sinister1 said:
Guys, guys... don't get me wrong; I do undestand Windows 8, I used it for quite a good while as my primary os on my desktop and my laptop but since neither is a touch device, the experience basically sucks. I will however consider the dual boot thing or virtual machine but still MS should not leave out those that continue to use Windows 7.
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There is no need for touch in Windows 8. Just use your keyboard and mouse.
I find the new interface so much better for mouse than it was before.
mcosmin222 said:
There is no need for touch in Windows 8. Just use your keyboard and mouse.
I find the new interface so much better for mouse than it was before.
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i dont care about the layout.. the applications i am using are all the same since xp so i just be happy about the better performance and new features
The fact is tha Win 8 was developed for tablet devices and lather they realized they could force it into a desktop enviroment.
No big deal here.
The real problem is the new Start Menu. If M$ was to remove that from Win8 for dektop and make a distinction between the 2 os's (Win8 RT vs Win8 for Desktop) there would be a faster adoption and ppl would have been satisfied (Especcially Enterprises).
But looking at Microsoft, the situation is so grim...they're 3 years late on mobile, search and social, and so they attempted to this resolution: one OS for all ecosystem. Nice move? Who knows...
I personally use Win8 for wp8 development and the new polished windows and speed of the OS is magic...
BUT ( it's a big but )
Metro is still there. ****. I don't fking need Apps, those are for f'king tablet/toys.
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And that's only a part of the problem. Why push WIN 8 PRO + 64 BIT + SLAT (i3/i5/i7) for WinPhone Development??? After waiting for months, devs would have been pissed, and they are indeed. So...Here we are..
Well I pulled out one of my old crappy computers and I am loading that crappy OS on it now, lets see how it turns out. :silly:
There's a technical reason why the WP8.0 SDK requires Windows 8. The new Emulator is using Hyper-V as a basis which is not available in Windows 7. The old Emulator still used code from VirtualPC which has been discontinued for several years. Implementing a completely new Emulator and drivers might not have been viable based on discontinued technology. Using Hyper-V they already had all the needed driver support in the new NT Kernel used by WP8.
So while I agree that it would have been preferable to be able to develop on Windows Vista / Windows 7 (XP was never supported for WP SDK) there are good reasons for requiring Windows 8. The SDK itself is great, perhaps that could have been made clearer in the thread title but the need for W8 is problematic to say the least.
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There's a technical reason why the WP8.0 SDK requires Windows 8. The new Emulator is using Hyper-V as a basis which is not available in Windows 7. The old Emulator still used code from VirtualPC which has been discontinued for several years. Implementing a completely new Emulator and drivers might not have been viable based on discontinued technology. Using Hyper-V they already had all the needed driver support in the new NT Kernel used by WP8.
So while I agree that it would have been preferable to be able to develop on Windows Vista / Windows 7 (XP was never supported for WP SDK) there are good reasons for requiring Windows 8. The SDK itself is great, perhaps that could have been made clearer in the thread title but the need for W8 is problematic to say the least.
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Exactly, the Hyper V is a much better way to do an emulator than the previous one. I installed the wp8 SDK on my office laptop so that I can get hyper V manager installed. I still have a VHD of my old windows 7 OS, which I plan to run in hyper v
I am looking forward to wp8 programming with the new async methodology, should life easier with those in place.
I loaded Win8 on one of my old computers but it didn't go as planed and there is no way I'm buying Win8 for $40 (It's not worth $1). Oh well.
well then you are just not going to develop in sdk 8.
but put the win8 flame somewhere else.
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well then you are just not going to develop in sdk 8.
but put the win8 flame somewhere else.
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Do you think Microsoft is going to top the big 2 market with this kind of attitude?
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Windows 8 is a better optimized Windows 7 with a touch UI added to it for touchscreens, which you don't have to use if you don't have one. That's all there is to it. I think its better than 7 in every way...
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Do you think Microsoft is going to top the big 2 market with this kind of attitude?
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To be honest.. yes think this. its not like apple would be much of a difference.
but hey .. people who think they cant use windows 8 because they dont have a touchscreen simply are old and dont want to adapt to new GUIs.
Wonder what they are doing with there windows phones
I dont get the fact that people complain about not needing apps on desktop computer, and that metro is for tablets... Yes, I dont need that either, but I dont use the metro side to nothing else except launching programs. Its only a start menu for me. I have XE.com and weather apps there, but I barely look at them ever. If someone uses XP I get it, but (Vista)Win7->Win8 any day for me. 8 is so much faster and the only difference is the "start menu".
StevieBallz said:
There's a technical reason why the WP8.0 SDK requires Windows 8. The new Emulator is using Hyper-V as a basis which is not available in Windows 7. The old Emulator still used code from VirtualPC which has been discontinued for several years. Implementing a completely new Emulator and drivers might not have been viable based on discontinued technology. Using Hyper-V they already had all the needed driver support in the new NT Kernel used by WP8.
So while I agree that it would have been preferable to be able to develop on Windows Vista / Windows 7 (XP was never supported for WP SDK) there are good reasons for requiring Windows 8. The SDK itself is great, perhaps that could have been made clearer in the thread title but the need for W8 is problematic to say the least.
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Huh, I figured it was just forcing people to upgrade to prevent vista 2.0.
Guys it's just my personal opinion, if you like Win8 that's a good thing. Maybe if I dish out the $$ for a touch screen tablet or computer I would be more comfortable with it but for a desktop (as far as form me) is a no go. Honestly I've tried to adapt to using in it with a mouse and keyboard but it just feels unnatural. I even installed classic shell on it but I still didn't like it, maybe you guys are right, maybe it's just me but like most of the companies I do contract work for; I'm not in a hurry to switch from Windows 7 and would rather wait for the next installment of the OS.
hello everyone
i know that this is not the right place but if somebody can help then i will be very happy
i just wanna ask that where can i get win 8.1 pro final build 32 bit cos everywhere i see is pro vl or enterprise or rtm so if someone have link of win 8.1 final pro 32 bit please give it to me i really wanna try it
please reply i am waiting
Why dont you just update from the store.
Otherwise it is piracy and the thread will have to be locked.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Why dont you just update from the store.
Otherwise it is piracy and the thread will have to be locked.
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He can download enterprise and try it for 90 days free, Google that and you will find it, otherwise you will have to pay for it
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dazza9075 said:
He can download enterprise and try it for 90 days free, Google that and you will find it, otherwise you will have to pay for it
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thanks very much but is it better than pro and what is win 8.1 core s it better than pro
aditya rathee said:
thanks very much but is it better than pro and what is win 8.1 core s it better than pro
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8 pro has bit locker, RDC and domain support
Enterprise doesn't have WMC support (paid add on for 8 and 8 pro)
But the t has other domain level tools and features you'll not need
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8 = 8.1 its just got some updates, it is for all intensive purposes the same OS
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I can't see windows 8.1 update in Store. Why? My windows 8 pro is legal and activated.
dazza9075 said:
8 pro has bit locker, RDC and domain support
Enterprise doesn't have WMC support (paid add on for 8 and 8 pro)
But the t has other domain level tools and features you'll not need
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8 = 8.1 its just got some updates, it is for all intensive purposes the same OS
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sir and what is win 8.1 core
aditya rathee said:
sir and what is win 8.1 core
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http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...technologies/windows-8-1/compare/default.aspx
8.1 core is not an actual microsoft named version.
Enterprise is basically the "do absolutely god damned everything" version.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...technologies/windows-8-1/compare/default.aspx
8.1 core is not an actual microsoft named version.
Enterprise is basically the does absolutely god damned everything version.
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except Use media centre
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IndeXez said:
I can't see windows 8.1 update in Store. Why? My windows 8 pro is legal and activated.
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I assume you have had a look on the net, specifically
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-in/windows-8/why-can-t-find-update-store
IndeXez said:
I can't see windows 8.1 update in Store. Why? My windows 8 pro is legal and activated.
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Try running microsoft update several times. I had pending updates that I had to install before the upgrade showed up in my MS Store page. You have to have the latest updates installed before you can upgrade. At least, that fixed it for me.
dazza9075 said:
except Use media centre
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Hardly a limitation seeming as 8.1, 8.1 pro and 8.1 RT dont have it either.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Hardly a limitation seeming as 8.1, 8.1 pro and 8.1 RT dont have it either.
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8.1 and 8.1 pro can have it though, Enterprise cant.
That is a limitation
While we're on the subject, can anybody with 8.1 Enterprise check and see if SUA (the Subsystem for UNIX Applications) is still present in the "Windows Features" (optionalfeatures.exe) or DISM or similar? It probably won't be, but I can't find anything conclusive on that front. I'm quite reluctant to move to Cygwin, but if it's that or nothing, that's what I'll do... as of 8.0, SUA was important enough that even through I regularly use(d) Media Center, I went with Enterprise instead for my home system. If that's no longer an option, I may end up switching back (although I bet it's possible to hack it into 8.1 just as it was possible to hack it into home editions of older Windows releases).
It annoys me deeply that Microsoft cut this useful feature. If they didn't want to support it anymore, at least they could have open-sourced it...