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Official Windows-on-Tab discussion/speculation thread

This thread is not the focal point for all discussions relating to running Win7, Win8 or WinAnything on the Tab 10.1.
It has been formed by merging some of the largest and oldest Windows-on-Tab threads into one.

Windows 7 or Windows 8 on Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Hello
Is it possible to install Windows 7 or Windows 8 on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Thank you in advance.

Windows 7 doesn't work on the processor inside the tab. Windows 8 will but that version hasn't been released. Only the intel version has.
Would love Windows 8 on my tab.
Watch this space, I guess...

S galaxy 10.1 and win 8 possible?
I have heard that windows 8 is gonna support the intel chip in the samsung galaxy tablet 10.1. will it be possible to install this OS on this tablet someday..
Jesper.

jesdaking said:
I have heard that windows 8 is gonna support the intel chip in the samsung galaxy tablet 10.1. will it be possible to install this OS on this tablet someday..
Jesper.
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For starters....it isn't an Intel chip in the 10.1. Its the NVIDIA Tegra 2.
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Nvidia is Intel....
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Hmm sorry but i am not sure if its intel! .. but the main thing is will it be possible to install windows 8. it would be fantastic.. i think its a ARM-based chipset but heard that it shuld be similar to the Tegra 2..

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Nvidia is Intel....
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Umm.... What?!

mullemulle86 said:
Nvidia is Intel....
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Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?

steve664npc said:
Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
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And i ask why not??
Why the hell do someone want to put android on a iphone! and some one did!
I think it would be cool.. but i dont think you are not a windows fan.. lol!

jesdaking said:
And i ask why not??
Why the hell do someone want to put android on a iphone! and some one did!
I think it would be cool.. but i dont think you are not a windows fan.. lol!
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I wouldnt want windows 8 on my tablet...but I can see why some people might be interested.
nvidia is not intel though. they may licence some technologies from each other, but they aren't one and the same. If they were. then why would intel be bothering with the medfield chips?

mullemulle86 said:
Nvidia is Intel....
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Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion

If dual boot was possible why would u not want to put win 8 or any other OS on it? I thought that was the point of being "open" why do so many touchpad users want android???
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steve664npc said:
Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion
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Actually windows8 might surprise you. it is not bloatware as in previous windows
Nvidia uses arm architecture intel uses x86. Windows 8 is being designed to support lean hardware like ARM based SoC. It will supports 2 modes - traditional windows called desktop mode and touch based called metro. Its tile based metro UI is more elegant than android and shoul work with both x86 and arm devices. X86 will habe an edge as it will work woth traditional windows as well as Metro while arm can only work with metro assuming they fix all the headaches related to arm
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steve664npc said:
Errr... nVidia is most certainly NOT Intel!
No back to the thread - why on earth would you want to put Windows, aka bloatware, on an Android Tab?
But you haven't answered the question? I asked why on earth would you want to put Windows 8 on an android tablet?
It seems silly to me that's all - but that's just my opinion
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Why should i answer that question.. The only thing you are saying is that windows 8 is silly.. ????? And the Answer is that i dont think so.. lol. I just like to try everything to have a oppionon. Im not a FANBOY! that just try one thing only.
and you are calling it android tablet why? its a samsung galaxy tablet 10.1 and i like to call it windows tablet soon. hehe

jesdaking said:
Why should i answer that question.. The only thing you are saying is that windows 8 is silly.. ????? And the Answer is that i dont think so.. lol. I just like to try everything to have a oppionon. Im not a FANBOY! that just try one thing only.
and you are calling it android tablet why? its a samsung galaxy tablet 10.1 and i like to call it windows tablet soon. hehe
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Me too! This is a Samsung tab that runs Android. Not an Android tab made by Samsung! If dual boot is possible I want it!
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Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.

wewewi999 said:
Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.
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Unfortunately, I agree with everything here, except the word "ever." I think there will be folks rocking the GT10 when Win8 gets leaked and built, but by then this will be a "legacy device." I'm really looking forward to having a windows 8 tablet, but it won't be the galaxy tab 10.1

yep microsoft UEFI Secure Boot technology might make it near impossible to dual boot win 8 and android ON devices built for windows8 - but i have faith in the dev community to port Win 8 onto android first devices- not that i would use it anyway
wewewi999 said:
Well sorry to blow out your dreams but Windows 8 ARM wont isnt coming 'til 2013 and it WONT be available as OEM or retail disc in any way.
It will be embedded into the slabs, just like Android.
But since it is NOT open source, you just will NOT be able to add it afterwords.
THERE WILL BE NO WINDOWS ON THE GTAB 10.1. EVER.
Dual-Booting a Windows 8 ARM tablet with Android might be possible, but not the opposite.
That being said; just wait to see the price of the Windows-based slabs; itll be a good 200$ over the comparable Android-based slab.
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Crap totally foregot about microsoft UEFI Secure Boot technology!
but when the windows 8 tablet are out..
i just buy a windows tablet ;-). And sell my lovely SG tab 1.10. but ICS is gonna be great to!

Windows 8 is now stable on ARM!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-5...-on-arm-going-to-developers-soon-say-sources/

BlackTavern said:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-5...-on-arm-going-to-developers-soon-say-sources/
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Yes but it requires 40ish Gb of space, a secure boot image and OEM branding to function... none of which we have so stop posting about it

evil secure boot: if you get one of those, it won't run Android on it (unless someone cracks their keys)

mrevankyle said:
Yes but it requires 40ish Gb of space, a secure boot image and OEM branding to function... none of which we have so stop posting about it
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so what i dnt think the op was saying it was stable on the tf101so stop being a rudeinconsiderate jerk

Completely off-topic; this thread should be moved to a forum that has anything to do with Windows 8.
And incidentally, Win8 will be the next Vista. It will flop, badly. Microsoft has never managed an even slightly successful touch-screen OS, and Win8 has significant design limitations that will put people off once they finally get to try it.

As much as I agree that Windows 8 may flop, I also disagree about MS never building a decent touchscreen OS. Before Windows 7, absolutely - however the Acer running Windows 7 worked extremely well to my surprise. It worked just as a tablet should and the response time was impressive. Any tablet that has a fan is a fail though, so if it works well on ARM - maybe.....
If Microsoft can make Windows 8 work and improve on the "tiles" portion, I think it could be a reasonable tablet OS.

neofreek01 said:
so what i dnt think the op was saying it was stable on the tf101so stop being a rudeinconsiderate jerk
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I am sorry that you think that that was inconsiderate it just irritates me when someone opens a new thread for a topic that has already been discussed multiple times in the form of a device that will never get that operating system. There is an entire windows 8 section of XDA and i think that this post would have better served to start a discussion there

caseyc said:
As much as I agree that Windows 8 may flop, I also disagree about MS never building a decent touchscreen OS. Before Windows 7, absolutely - however the Acer running Windows 7 worked extremely well to my surprise. It worked just as a tablet should and the response time was impressive. Any tablet that has a fan is a fail though, so if it works well on ARM - maybe.....
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What percentage of Windows7 users are even aware it can operate with a touch screen, much less use it that way?
I rest my case.

What percentage of iPad users know that tablets can be used for things outside of Angry Birds and porn?
The point isn't that Windows necessarily suck at touchscreen capability, it's just that they don't seem to have attracted much attention with it. Whether it's because they also believe that bull**** Apple has created around tablets and want to be seen as a more serious company... or if they're just too damn slow and big to move quickly, who knows?
(By the way, slightly off topic, but where is the best source to gather all past financial history on Apple and Microsoft??)

I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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CrazyPeter said:
I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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Yeah, i really do wonder, how many people are going to buy some w8 tablet thinking that they might run any .exe files from their computer I believe there will be many flames thx to it. Not to mention the catastrophic amount of application after the launch....
And the impossibility to dualboot any other system -> w8 will be doomed and forgotten on arm.

asdfuogh said:
What percentage of iPad users know that tablets can be used for things outside of Angry Birds and porn?
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A pretty good percentage, I'd say, and the same is true of Android users. However, that straw man has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is that Microsoft has had nothing but dismal failure with touchscreen features of every product they've offered.
CrazyPeter said:
I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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This is one of the key problems I alluded to, and given the number of people in this very forum who don't understand that issue, the answer is "a lot".

CrazyPeter said:
I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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I'm one. That's actually what I was expecting =[
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blestsol said:
I'm one. That's actually what I was expecting =[
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Apparently, I am one, too. I am sadly mistaken, and was quite bigoted to have thought otherwise.

We have a ASUS see slate at the hospital that I work at. It runs Windows 7 64bit with a Solid state drive and 2 gigs of ram, able to go to 4 gigs. It is actually a very solid machine, And cost effictive for our hospital. Most doctors have dell xt2 tablets they carry around that are POS, cost around 3500. For like 1200 you can get a slate a eeeslate and keyboard.
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knoxploration said:
What percentage of Windows7 users are even aware it can operate with a touch screen, much less use it that way?
I rest my case.
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Uh, what? I get that the marketing sucks and they only have like 3 tablets out that run Windows 7 (if that), but that doesn't mean it doesn't work well. I'm obviously not saying it is or ever will be as popular as Android/iOS tablets, hahahah.
Microsoft is an OS developer, and until they manufacture the hardware as well (which won't happen) they're going to have to license Windows to tablet manufacturers who actually want to make them. How many manufacturers want to pay a license for Windows when they can just as easily slap Android on any piece of hardware for free? Not to mention they've had to build Windows tablets using x86 architecture all along which isn't cheap when it's not mass-ordered by every other OEM.
That said, my point was that Windows 7 works surprisingly well as a tablet OS, not that it's going to compete for 1st place with the big boys.
Just as Windows Phone 7 is a relative dud, I'm sure Windows 8 ARM will be as well. Not because the OS doesn't work well on a tablet, but because they are FARRRRRR too late in the game. Popular app developers are just now starting to port their catalog to Android, it's not likely that they are going to consider also porting to Windows on ARM when the user base will be virtually non-existent.
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CrazyPeter said:
I wonder how many people will think that Windows 8 on tablets will run Windows applications... Windows 8 is heading for disaster consumer confusion will be the order of the day when Microsoft release 2 versions of Windows 8 that are totally different OSes that run different binary apps.
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That's a great point, and I'm sure 90% of the people who buy Windows tablets are going to be people who want to take their desktop applications to a mobile platform.
I guess I just saw a glimmer of hope with the Windows 7 tablet I was surprised by in the store, but I'm being reminded how unlikely it is that Microsoft will ever succeed with any sort of a mobile product for regular consumers.

It's unfortunate, but both Windows 8 in it's tablet form, and Windows Phone 7 are relying on consumer ignorance to succeed.
The Tech news community are the ones at fault here, not highlighting these critical problems with the products, instead banking Microsoft's lucrative "advertising" payments in exchange for saying nice things.
Corporate America ****ing disgusts me. Almost as much as the lack of action by the US government in Microsoft's anti-trust practices.
Looking at the list of categories here, Microsoft have violated most of these at one time, and many they still continue to do so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-competitive_practices

I am waiting for win 8 Arm tablet
I am one waiting for an arm tablet on windows 8.

I was at one point looking forward to Win8 on ARM but after reading about how MS is going to be locking down ARM systems that run Win8 I have no desire any longer. When will MS and for that matter HW manufacturers understand that an ARM tablet is NO different than a white box PC. Leave it open and unlocked and if someone chooses to install Windows, Android, iOS, Linux, etc... let them.

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Windows 8 RT

do you think Windows 8 RT (ARM) could ever be ported successfully to the transformer, or even the prime or some other tablet?
i know it's not open source and that makes a HUUGE difference. so, what are the chances?
obviously it's a bit early to tell for sure, but how likely do you think?

I doubt it since it gonna come preinstalled with hardware.
http://www.techspot.com/news/48217-windows-8-editions-revealed-two-retail-one-for-arm-one-for-enterprise.html
Even if you were able to copy it to another tablet you would not be able to update it. At least legally.
Our only hope is that ms would sell it alone.

Im wondering how restricted it will be because if it runs like standard windows someone using it on a tablet could run a backup and push out an image that people on android could use.
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I very much doubt it as the WinRT code won't be open sourced so it would have to be one hell of a reverse engineering job to get it ported.
It would be like trying to get iOS ported to our TFs

I just hope splashtop or some other RDP software will have the ability to automaticly turn on all touch-features in win8 when you connect from your tablet.
Would make it a hell a lot easier to remote control your PC without keyboard and mouse.

If someone can figure out how to dump it then it is possible.
This is going back a few years & obviously Win8 whole different animal from WM6.5. I remember when it was announced that the beloved Dell Axim x51 was not going to be updated to WM6.5. Some of the devs did figure out how to make it happen. Going that route you do run into a whole host of legal issues.

In not sure why you would want to downgrade?
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Possible, but what's the point? Windows 8 RT isn't proper Windows, it's not get any apps, and has that horrible Metro user interface.

I love the metro interface. It is just so simple and smart. I would also love to use Windows 8 with a touchscreen to enable all the touch features.
Also, I think of it this way... As some person said on this thread, it is not actually Windows 8, cause you cant get out of metro. And it is a really big issue. But I mean, it is like installing Linux on your TF. You would just install it, check it out for a little while, and then switch back for android. I wouldn't actually use Linux on the Transformer. On Linux you wouldn't actually use Word or Excel on your TF. And if you had windows, same thing... you probably wouldn't use Photoshop or After Effects because you just don't need to. If you are on a mobile device, obviously the OS has to be limited only on the features that are useful on a mobile device. Photoshop would burn your TF most probably, so I don't really see the use of using the classic Windows desktop with a Transformer.
P.S. The Metro UI freaking ROCKS!

I'm going to counter and say I can't stand metro ui. At all. If I got win8 (In love with 7 atm) I'd instantly switch to desktop mode and never look at metro again.
I really hope they release a generic arm version, I want windows on my tab. It'd allow me to do so much graphically and musically, but for now,
Ubuntu xD

Windows 8 has high hardware requirement, atleast prime is needed I think for it to work
B60 TF101 16gb WW version. Never rooted.

Well, you can overclock the TF a considerable bit, my worry would be RAM usage, since Windows is a RAM hog. It's supposed to have lower Reqs than Windows 7, though.

Thing O Doom said:
Well, you can overclock the TF a considerable bit, my worry would be RAM usage, since Windows is a RAM hog. It's supposed to have lower Reqs than Windows 7, though.
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the ram for this device is too low even for modified android and for browsing sites and watching flash video.
is ram not like the cheapest component?
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I made a post in another thread stating why I think it's not going to happen.
mjlim said:
I don't anticipate it being possible to run Win8 on the tf101.
/!\ warning; the following post is speculation and opinion /!\
It's unlikely that Windows 8 ARM will be available except preinstalled on devices; unlike PCs, the installation would be different for and specific to each device. So if we assume that is the case;
Windows 8 will probably come on a device with only the drivers necessary for that specific device. You could cite space constraints on that. Why would drivers for any other device be included?
Secondly, building a kernel specifically for the transformer is not going to happen. Why? The Windows kernel is not open source. obviously current kernels we have won't help, because they are Linux.
That last point is probably the biggest reason why we won't see it happening. Not having the source severely limits what can be done.
I wouldn't get my hopes up for this.
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Windows 8 on ARM is more about breaking away from the limitations Intel has in the mobile space. It has nothing to do with compatibility. Microsoft doesn't want to lose any more licenses of Windows to Apple with the iPad (MS makes more money on every Android phone than on Windows Phone).
ARM won't run the desktop. No one cares about Windows if they can't run their old apps. It's DOA.

Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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"never say never"
look at the HTC HD2, a device that was shipped with WinMo 6.1, now it can run Windows Phone 7.5, Android (ICS included), Ubuntu, booting from NAND (with 2 different boot loaders written from scratch), with nearly full hardware support for everything.
When Asus releases WinRT tablets, they will reuse some of the hardware they use in Android tablets, so they will have the correct code compiled, and hackers will backport it to other tablets...

CrazyPeter said:
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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uhm wtf? xbox best selling game console worldwide? about 20 million kinects sold?
anyway... for win 8 I say we'll see and we'll know then.

CrazyPeter said:
Windows 8 is gonna flop bigger than all the other Microsoft failures like Xbox and kinect
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Go back to doing what ever you were doing on your Mac or ipad!

jadesse said:
Go back to doing what ever you were doing on your Mac or ipad!
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Comon man we all know microsoft copied ipads angry birds when made xbox360!!
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[Q] But will it run windows8?

The specs seem ok but does anyone have any plans to dual boot windows 8 on this mini beast?

Possible, yes
Legal, no
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Why would you want to?
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trooperbill said:
The specs seem ok but does anyone have any plans to dual boot windows 8 on this mini beast?
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Maybe but why would you want to put that crappy OS on it?

i would like Ubuntu, not some m$ s*it

xopher.hunter said:
Possible, yes
Legal, no
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Unlikely, as win8rt will only come as builds dedicated to a specific device (with that device) and the win8rt bootloader requires a secureboot-enabled EFI bios with _only_ the MS keys embedded. (E.G. how often did windows CE get hacked onto a device that never had it)
_If_ we see win8rt on other T3 Kai platforms, that end up exploitable _and_ people are able to hack out the EFI secure bootloader stuff, then _maybe you'll see a ropey build do the rounds, but I wouldn't count on it

No and why would be the answer.
Windows 8 won't run windows apps and it's a step back to the dark ages in UI design.
Microsoft have also locked have ensured that windows 8 will only boot on approved hardware with signed EFI certs. This also means that a windows 8 ARM tablet won't boot anything else either.
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Windows 8 RT sucks anyway, even if it was ported most people wouldn't care because it's RT and Arm based so it's not like your installing diablo 3.
now if someone releases an intel x86 android tablet, thats another story.
Still, can't wait for Microsoft Surface Pro, that thing looks amazing.

As everyone has said, It is not possible. Even if someone got the EFI to pass, windows RT was not designed for tegra devices.

Questions go in the Q&A section

Yea. But can it run Crysis? :laugh:

calvin4001 said:
As everyone has said, It is not possible. Even if someone got the EFI to pass, windows RT was not designed for tegra devices.
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The RT model uses tegra 3.
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Any Nexus forced to run Windows would die of shame... Might as well ask if it would run Ios6.

This has troll written all over it. Shame on you OP..lol.

sorry... (hangs head in shame)

Don't be ashamed. This is a very legitimate question.
Windows 8 finally brings a true mobile windows. And it would be awesome if the nexus could dual boot into it.
Now Windows 8 RT kinda sucks ass since outside of office your just running windows phone apps basically though i'm sure that'll change eventually.
Plus, windows 8 is not really meant for a 7" screen, more like 10" minimum right now.
but as it's been said, it'll probably never happen due to many different reasons.
my advice, save up for a surface pro thats coming out in december/january

trooperbill said:
sorry... (hangs head in shame)
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Nah man I was fukn wit ya.lol Your cool..:laugh:

Will WIN8 run on Galaxy S III

I personally think Win 8 is better than Android.

Windows 8 sucks, to be honest. At least on a desktop.

boyhandsome said:
I personally think Win 8 is better than Android.
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No and it's because of 3 reason
1. Arm verison of windows 8 need a "bios" aka special bootloader for it too work on devices which s3 doesnt have
2. Microsoft wouldnt let anything that runs android run windows on it instead
3. windows 8 RT will only work on specific hardware and resolutions that s3 doesnt have like 1366x768 res

boyhandsome said:
I personally think Win 8 is better than Android.
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Then buy a windows 8 phone and not android.
Personally I think windows phone is sh*t.
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I wouldn't piss my money away on a Windows 8 phone but dual boot Android/Win8 is something that's already got me salivating.

I reckon Win 8 Phones have their place in the market... At the BOTTOM... LOL. But seriously, I had my hands on some DEMO gear and its not that bad. It's good to see a more level playing field as all that really means is more CHOICE for all.

I think the question should be: will win8 phones able to run android ?
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Nick14 said:
No and it's because of 3 reason
1. Arm verison of windows 8 need a "bios" aka special bootloader for it too work on devices which s3 doesnt have
2. Microsoft wouldnt let anything that runs android run windows on it instead
3. windows 8 RT will only work on specific hardware and resolutions that s3 doesnt have like 1366x768 res
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though its not possible to port win8 to s3 due to copyright issues, your 1st and 3rd point is not true
1. bootloader is hackable
2. 1280x720 is supported in win 8 mobile

Nick14 said:
No and it's because of 3 reason
1. Arm verison of windows 8 need a "bios" aka special bootloader for it too work on devices which s3 doesnt have
2. Microsoft wouldnt let anything that runs android run windows on it instead
3. windows 8 RT will only work on specific hardware and resolutions that s3 doesnt have like 1366x768 res
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HTC HD2 also Windows, but can install Android..i think S3 can install Windows 8

bala_gamer said:
though its not possible to port win8 to s3 due to copyright issues, your 1st and 3rd point is not true
1. bootloader is hackable
2. 1280x720 is supported in win 8 mobile
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1.
http://arstechnica.com/information-...othing-or-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it/
completly locked down so it's kinda a hard
2.
we got the wight but not the hight or visa verca
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-different-screens.aspx
lockmunk said:
HTC HD2 also Windows, but can install Android..i think S3 can install Windows 8
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It's like saying i got triers so they will fit a car , bike or boat.... reverse engineering is a bigger job than u think just watch the Idroid project , so just because HD2 could run windows phone 6.5 doesnt mean that my S1 will run WP7

duskdevilza said:
I reckon Win 8 Phones have their place in the market... At the BOTTOM... LOL. But seriously, I had my hands on some DEMO gear and its not that bad. It's good to see a more level playing field as all that really means is more CHOICE for all.
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well said...but keep in mind guys...HTC HD2...living proof of XDA Devs...KUDOS.
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lockmunk said:
HTC HD2 also Windows, but can install Android..i think S3 can install Windows 8
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Im not saying its not possible but I doubt many Devs will invest so much time and effort in producing a port that is partial and not effective...even the HOX port to S3 is not easy feat by any means...and keep in mind...thats Android to Android lol...

I personally think windows 8 on phone sucks....but as a tablet computer it is pretty good. If windows 8 could support all (or atleast most) of the apps for windows (.exe) it would be great, imagine loads of apps. And more over all the developing, rooting, flashing roms on android phones could be done anywhere (not literally) just via the tablet. I personally think windows 8 on a tablet would change the life of all normal pc users. As for gamers!!! and heavy duty devs, the most powerful pc is also weak.

rohan999 said:
I personally think windows 8 on phone sucks....but as a tablet computer it is pretty good. If windows 8 could support all (or atleast most) of the apps for windows (.exe) it would be great, imagine loads of apps.
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I believe apps would have to be recompiled for ARM. Right now 99% of apps would not work.

WIndows ing system is KING. But as for a phone... I think ANDROID has that title at the moment.
But I would like to have the option to have windows 8 on my phone just to play with it abit.
I wonder why any devs could not get the same framework and just change the drivers around to match that of a s3.
I mean its software on hardware. If you have the space and right kind of hardware anything i think is possible. If you know how to manipulate software very very well

<QUOTE>I believe apps would have to be recompiled for ARM. Right now 99% of apps would not work</QUOTE>
some tablets run on intel processors....so i believe they might run as usual.

Real question is as always will a Dev be bothered to try to port it .
Its never a question of users wants always developers choice .
Unless of course someone needs Windows that much they pay to have it developed privately .
Second question is how long before w8 port leads to Microsoft's lawyers gearing upfor action .
jje

buy ativ s then your problem solved

nodstuff said:
Then buy a windows 8 phone and not android.
Personally I think windows phone is sh*t.
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WP8 and Windows 8 are not the same.
But seriously Windows 8 is a tablet OS. It is not easy to use on a 4.8inch screen.

Wp7.5 was horrid. Wp8 will probably be the same..
On a tablet.. hmm maybe worth looking at. On a desktop... i had the beta... piss poor..
I now have the new beta on the xbox.. looks alot like windows 8.. but... i like the new dash for one reason..
Microsoft finaly got their fingers out thier jacksys and intergrated internet explorer..
Personally.. i hate anything to do with windows excpet the fact that when they break.. i get work..
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Nick14 said:
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http://arstechnica.com/information-...othing-or-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it/
completly locked down so it's kinda a hard
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we got the wight but not the hight or visa verca
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/03/21/scaling-to-different-screens.aspx
It's like saying i got triers so they will fit a car , bike or boat.... reverse engineering is a bigger job than u think just watch the Idroid project , so just because HD2 could run windows phone 6.5 doesnt mean that my S1 will run WP7
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You are talking about Windows 8 (RT), and that might be really hard to get on the S3. However, Windows Phone 8 does accept our resolution (see the ATIV S for example).
What people seem to be missing is that we have the Android sources. This means that it's "easy" to change the source code and make it run on different systems. Windows Phone (and Windows) is closed source. It's a "black box". You can't see what's inside, so it's very hard to mod it to make it run where it isn't intended to. This is the reason why no device has been hacked to run WP7, even when its hardware would allow it to (such as the Nokia N9).
It will be easier to run Android on the ATIV S than WP8 on the SGS3. Not saying it's impossible, just that it's very, very hard. Much harder than Android on the HD2.