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[Q] camera quality

Im going to purchase a new phone from Verizon soon. Just wondering what people think of the camera quality of the XP. Looks like the Droid Charge, also coming out on vzw about the same time has an epic camera for a smartphone.
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In general. Nobody beats Sony cameras. However they use standard gingerbread interface, which takes away some of the cooler features seen usually on their phones. Still I p personally would say quality is superb.
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I'd agree, I was amazed at the quality of the camera when I got my Xperia Play

Nhialor said:
I'd agree, I was amazed at the quality of the camera when I got my Xperia Play
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My DHD has an 8mp camera and my XP only has a 5, yet the XP camera beats the DHD's hands down

Wasn't really impressed with the DHD's camera either. It had that magenta tint in the middle of the pic. Haven't given the play's pic quality any thought and that's a good thing for me then it must be good, cause I'm very visual and bad pic quality would have struck my eye as it did on the DHD
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HTC One Camera - Video Recording

Anyone could test the video stabilization, because I´m seeing a lot of video on youtube and the fps broke sometimes.
These are the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UJPbW-v-Ik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPs5M93fhfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y75_J1zCO40&list=UUYAuOW09D5X2mD8vM4zslug&index=1
Even in the presentation the fps stucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLjBbK4rxAo
Sorry my English. I´m from Brazil

germanojose said:
Anyone could test the video stabilization, because I´m seeing a lot of video on youtube and the fps broke sometimes.
These are the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UJPbW-v-Ik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPs5M93fhfs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y75_J1zCO40&list=UUYAuOW09D5X2mD8vM4zslug&index=1
Even in the presentation the fps stucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLjBbK4rxAo
Sorry my English. I´m from Brazil
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Isnt recording in 1080p HDR only like 28fps? Maybe that's the problem.

demo27vol1 said:
Isnt recording in 1080p HDR only like 28fps? Maybe that's the problem.
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That's not the problem. 28fps is plenty enough for smooth motion. The video recording just sucks in general on HTC phones. Even the official "two girls walking into sunlight and then turning back to smile" video is jerky and not completely smooth. HTC is claiming they have OIS, but I don't see any evidence of it at all. In fact, disregarding jerkiness, the video just really really sucks. The colors are completely off and overly red and gaudy. The motion of objects in the video have a nauseatingly awkward movement to them. The details and colors are all smeared looking and cartoonified. It doesn't look natural or real at all. All these issues are evident in the HTC One X, Sensation, Desire HD, etc. They are not unique to the HTC One. I've been *****ing about how terrible HTC's video recording is for years now, and even now in 2013 it's still the same old crap.

Guys it could be that its the demo unit..The retail unit might have everything fixed..Lets wait and watch.

added to the mega info thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38231188#post38231188

I think its a problem of build because i had a Desire HD and when I installed the rom from sabsa prime, the latest, the câmera is working without loosing fps and on Endeavoru I just changed the build.prop configuration and the issue minimized. I'll be waiting the custom rom to see this fix.
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katamari201 said:
That's not the problem. 28fps is plenty enough for smooth motion. The video recording just sucks in general on HTC phones. Even the official "two girls walking into sunlight and then turning back to smile" video is jerky and not completely smooth. HTC is claiming they have OIS, but I don't see any evidence of it at all. In fact, disregarding jerkiness, the video just really really sucks. The colors are completely off and overly red and gaudy. The motion of objects in the video have a nauseatingly awkward movement to them. The details and colors are all smeared looking and cartoonified. It doesn't look natural or real at all. All these issues are evident in the HTC One X, Sensation, Desire HD, etc. They are not unique to the HTC One. I've been *****ing about how terrible HTC's video recording is for years now, and even now in 2013 it's still the same old crap.
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Call me inept, but I would blame that on the Filmer, it isn't very noticeable to me. Looks roughly the same as other OEMs.

Another video, same problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weSY1tolEKA

Those vids could be early software design.
On my epic 4g touch I get crappy video with AOSP and great video with the stock rom. My AOSP vids look like these vids being posted which is simply due to un-optimized codecs for the processor.
I'm sure this wont be the case with the final builds.

HTC is claiming that the UltraPixel camera on the HTC One will be able to capture 300 percent more light than competitors. You can shoot 1080p HD videos, HDR videos and there's a single LED flash for even better low-light shooting.
^ Is it comparable to sony xperia z 13mp cam ?

bismeetsahoo said:
HTC is claiming that the UltraPixel camera on the HTC One will be able to capture 300 percent more light than competitors. You can shoot 1080p HD videos, HDR videos and there's a single LED flash for even better low-light shooting.
^ Is it comparable to sony xperia z 13mp cam ?
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The Speria pics look worse than my E4GT.
I've been in the camera bix for years and one thing is for sure, if you pack more dots into a smaller area the dots are then smaller. Less surface area means less light hits it and therefor less color spectrum capture and less light band capture. The reason SLR cameras can hit the higher pixels is due to the CCD size. The CCD is WAY bigger in the SLR than any cell phone so it can capture more color spectrum and more light bands.
I for one think that the camera in the HTC One will really stun people when they actually use it next to their old phone.

I have the same problem

I hope HTC focuses on an update. It took forever to get anything when I have the evo 4g

Every video or picture I've seen from the HTC One (especially the videos) have looked average to flat out bad.. Really hope this is just due to insufficient software optimization and will be corrected before release as right now it's not looking too good.

never trust HTC
Your marketing is bad and liar

New test sample, Fixed FPS, I think the others videos was with HDR ON.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6VZW6NUFY
In this Video go to 29.9~30FPS Static

rapha.194 said:
never trust HTC
Your marketing is bad and liar
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38326427
You're a Xperia Z spammer!
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ethan3686 said:
Guys it could be that its the demo unit..The retail unit might have everything fixed..Lets wait and watch.
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I've heard this liine a I've heard this line a million times, for dozens of phones I've followed through the years. Either from delusional people, from fanboys, or just simply ignorant people who don't follow this stuff closely. Images taken from the demo unit that's trotted out to the press when it is announced will not magically grow wings and transform into something else on the final product, especially when there's only a few weeks til launch. Even going from alpha stages, with the final camera hardware is decided, the difference is marginal. You really think they have to start from the ground up building software for the camera for every single new smartphone? Like a puppy who is blind at birth and it's eyes open after a few weeks? It is not only ridiculous, but it has never been true. SGS2, SGS3, Nokia Lumia 920, Pureview 808, HTC One X, Xperia Z, and every other smartphone ever, even going back to Sony and Nokia candybar phones with buttons.

katamari201 said:
i've heard this liine a i've heard this line a million times, for dozens of phones i've followed through the years. Either from delusional people, from fanboys, or just simply ignorant people who don't follow this stuff closely. Images taken from the demo unit that's trotted out to the press when it is announced will not magically grow wings and transform into something else on the final product, especially when there's only a few weeks til launch. Even going from alpha stages, with the final camera hardware is decided, the difference is marginal. You really think they have to start from the ground up building software for the camera for every single new smartphone? Like a puppy who is blind at birth and it's eyes open after a few weeks? It is not only ridiculous, but it has never been true. Sgs2, sgs3, nokia lumia 920, pureview 808, htc one x, xperia z, and every other smartphone ever, even going back to sony and nokia candybar phones with buttons.
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HTC again disappoints me
Lost in comparative picture between Lumia 920
and now lost for the Iphone 5
http://asia.cnet.com/htc-one-vs-iphone-5-camera-shootout-62220556.htm
This camera can be better than Motorola Razr Hd ?
And I say more ....
Camera 13 MP's Xperia z NOT does better than IP5 and Galaxy S3!
They should make a mobile with 10 mm and put a bigger sensor a battery and a decent audio quality than that of those who make war USELESS phone thinner.

ethan3686 said:
Guys it could be that its the demo unit..The retail unit might have everything fixed..Lets wait and watch.
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Yea most likely. They probably slapped on some low quality parts to have some demo units available.
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[Video] - HTC One vs Lumia 920 OIS Test

Howdy guys & gals, ever since getting the HTC One I had a lot of requests to put it head 2 head with the Lumia 920 in a video test, to see if the OIS on both are comparable.
Well i finally did it yesterday and managed to get the footage edited and uploaded today.
The HTC One seems to develop a clicking / popping sound every time it is put into Final Cut Pro X, not sure why.
I know this is the HTC One section so most people here will be HTC One fans, but what do you think is better ?
The Lumia seems to take it's time finding the correct lighting and the One seems to have an issue showing the clouds fully without them being fully white.
I'll let you make up your own mind

Both pros and cons.
Htc one lets in more light compared to the lumia. You can see the clouds on the lumia but not on the htc one.
Im going to have to slide with the one. Video is much more stable, more bright, and quality wise its not blurry compared to the lumia.

expertzero1 said:
Both pros and cons.
Htc one lets in more light compared to the lumia. You can see the clouds on the lumia but not on the htc one.
Im going to have to slide with the one. Video is much more stable, more bright, and quality wise its not blurry compared to the lumia.
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HTC One...its not even close.

Makes me very happy I ordered the One and not the 920(was thinking about it)

Great video comparison Sam, left a review on the comments. . .same name!
Both pros and cons, but i find the One looks more realistic with the Lighting and Colour. . .

Thanks
I am really shocked at how dark the lumia was
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:good:That was a cool test.

Nice video. The Lumia image stabilization is pretty poor. I thought it would do a better job. I thought overall, sans the clicking/popping, the One overall was better.

your videos' comment sections start to get a little annoying with all those
"Super Epic Galaxy S4 Giveaway" thing going on

I find it so weird that the One seems to be far more stable. The Lumia 920 has this rather nasty jello effect going on that is seriously affecting quality.

Wow! The htc one destroyed it!
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townay said:
your videos' comment sections start to get a little annoying with all those
"Super Epic Galaxy S4 Giveaway" thing going on
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Tell me about it ....
I've tried to get them to stop, but alas they don't seem to listen! lol
dobknobby said:
Great video comparison Sam, left a review on the comments. . .same name!
Both pros and cons, but i find the One looks more realistic with the Lighting and Colour. . .
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Much appreciated and I agree both have pro & cons it really depends what you want in the camera.
I also just posted a Galaxy S3 vs HTC One test as well

Interesting considering other reviews the Nokia did better... Maybe the HTC is better with vibrations but larger movements like walking the Nokia handles better?
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Which update were you on? Does updates affect ois sensitivity?
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townay said:
Which update were you on? Does updates affect ois sensitivity?
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1.28.401.7 for the HTC One
8.0.9903.10 on the Lumia 920

Another good Video Comparison Sam, the Samsung is just like the Nokia though, quite dark, i still prefer the Ones video. . . i think this will actually be hard to beat on that quality! However, as much as i hate to say this. The S3's audio is better. Its not got as much Base as the One, which i find more realistic. . . But then im not in your car so i dont know how it sounds, does your car sound quite basey? Only you can answer this one my friend lol

audio on the S3 wasn't as good to me... the One cut out the wind/road noise present.

Just showed your video to my wife. She said and I quote " the 920 looks like an old cheap crap phone". She said that HTC One was miles better. Better stabilization, better light. She was well impressed with the One. Thought the 920 was ****.

Hello Sam buddy
To my eyes it appears that it's a matter of exposure.
The 920 seems to be doing a very good job of exposing the sky. It shows very good detail of the clouds, but is under exposing the road. Anytime you go downhill the road is then "lit up" (much brighter) which I assume is because the land is then taking up a much bigger chunk of the overall picture so exposing that part becomes the priority?
The One seems to be the reverse. It is focusing on the road so the sky portion of the image is very over exposed. It is very difficult to see any decent cloud detail but road/foliage looks very natural, bright and clear, if maybe a little washed out.
When going downhill the 920 seems the better picture to me. Better shadow detail, more vivid skies etc.
Not really sure how to end this post. It just leaves me wondering how the Nokia would react to the exact same test on a very bright, sunny day. Would it still focus on the sky and cause even more under exposure of the road?
One last thing.... What happens if the 920 is "aimed" down a little further? I'm guessing it would then concentrate on exposing the land more than the sky?
Too late. Bed
Thanks for the test.
P. S. Apologies for not mentioning stabilisation which is what the test was all about!
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Post the photos clicked with YOUR Moto X!

Post photos taken with your MOTO X.
I currently dont have a moto x so you guys can post your own....I guess!!!!!!
Update: planning on getting a moto x but they don't seem to launch our in India
Let's hope I get one!
~ExonakiDev:highfive:

I don't think any one has it yet....
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Well they will.... Soon
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Here's some photos OF a Moto X and its available color options
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I just got my seed device, should have my noto in 4 days!!!!!
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Cool!
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Moto X sample shots
Moto X sample shots
http://www.engadget.com/gallery/moto-x-sample-shots-1/479482/#!slide=479498

karty said:
Moto X sample shots
http://www.engadget.com/gallery/moto-x-sample-shots-1/479482/#!slide=479498
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Well, this is what I about expected from a Moto camera. I have seen in the right conditions and lighting pretty good shots with it, but as a 2 phone guy, this is why I will be carrying my Nokia 928 with me for photos and Moto for ecosystem and Google services. I heard most of these inadequacies can be improved upon with SW updates. We will see.

busixb said:
Well, this is what I about expected from a Moto camera. I have seen in the right conditions and lighting pretty good shots with it, but as a 2 phone guy, this is why I will be carrying my Nokia 928 with me for photos and Moto for ecosystem and Google services. I heard most of these inadequacies can be improved upon with SW updates. We will see.
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Gotta love the Lumia cameras. Gosh I miss my 920. It was so easy to take nice shots with that phone and every phone I've had since hasn't even come close.

The camera on this and the new droids quite honestly sucks. I don't think anyone is surprised, but you would think if they were going for an "iphone" like market, they would have put a little more emphasis on the shooter. the artifacts in low light pics are plain awful:crying:
Was seriously considering this to move from the N4, but not anymore. Every single review that has posted pics just don't look good at all.
I love moto, just wish they would step their camera game up a notch and not just throw around terms like clearpixel...it clearly doesn't help.
I am interested in seeing real world shots that ppl get with it though---sometimes they differ from the review photos.
Happy Shooting Moto X folks

shea-bird said:
The camera on this and the new droids quite honestly sucks. I don't think anyone is surprised, but you would think if they were going for an "iphone" like market, they would have put a little more emphasis on the shooter. the artifacts in low light pics are plain awful:crying:
Was seriously considering this to move from the N4, but not anymore. Every single review that has posted pics just don't look good at all.
I love moto, just wish they would step their camera game up a notch and not just throw around terms like clearpixel...it clearly doesn't help.
I am interested in seeing real world shots that ppl get with it though---sometimes they differ from the review photos.
Happy Shooting Moto X folks
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Well if you were planning to get the MotoX mainly for its camera, then you obviously will be disappointed. It's not leading edge right from the start, but a simple software update to tweak how it adjusts and balances the light can easily improve the quality a bit. I always view cellphone cams as means to create passable photos.

shea-bird said:
The camera on this and the new droids quite honestly sucks. I don't think anyone is surprised, but you would think if they were going for an "iphone" like market, they would have put a little more emphasis on the shooter. the artifacts in low light pics are plain awful:crying:
Was seriously considering this to move from the N4, but not anymore. Every single review that has posted pics just don't look good at all.
I love moto, just wish they would step their camera game up a notch and not just throw around terms like clearpixel...it clearly doesn't help.
I am interested in seeing real world shots that ppl get with it though---sometimes they differ from the review photos.
Happy Shooting Moto X folks
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They still look better than the N4's pics, at least I think so.

Psilocin said:
Well if you were planning to get the MotoX mainly for its camera, then you obviously will be disappointed. It's not leading edge right from the start, but a simple software update to tweak how it adjusts and balances the light can easily improve the quality a bit. I always view cellphone cams as means to create passable photos.
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Yeah I'm not looking for a DSLR, but at least match the quality of the current flagships. They are a couple Gens behind with this cam (or so it appears). The S3 took better pics. My N4 is in the same boat...crappy cam, I've been looking for that vanilla phone with a good cam...Doesn't look like its gonna happen, might have to go back to the old root n rom method.
The Sony Honami could change that though.
Anyhow, still want to see the real world pics from the X...couple more days til we get a few samples.

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I just got my seed device, should have my noto in 4 days!!!!!
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Just got an email from them saying the shipping has been delayed does this happen to you as well?

Resized, but otherwise unretouched shot from my Moto X. This is just a shot from my office window - no artistic merit!

any comparative shots out yet? vs htc1, s4 and nexus4?

DonDizzurp said:
any comparative shots out yet? vs htc1, s4 and nexus4?
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Here's a quick comparison shot between the MotoX & Samsung Galaxy S4. These shots were taken about 30 seconds apart and have no post processing done other than resizing each to a width of 640 pixels. The one on the left is from the Moto X and the one on the right is from the Galaxy S4.
I haven't tested the Moto X in low light or any challenging conditions.
Initial thoughts:
- The one from the GS4 os a much more accurate colour rendition of the actual scene.
- The one from the Moto X has a purplish cast to the picture (see the colour of the sky).
- There is a lot more detail in the picture taken by the GS4.

rajeshr said:
Here's a quick comparison shot between the MotoX & Samsung Galaxy S4. These shots were taken about 30 seconds apart and have no post processing done other than resizing each to a width of 640 pixels. The one on the left is from the Moto X and the one on the right is from the Galaxy S4.
I haven't tested the Moto X in low light or any challenging conditions.
Initial thoughts:
- The one from the GS4 os a much more accurate colour rendition of the actual scene.
- The one from the Moto X has a purplish cast to the picture (see the colour of the sky).
- There is a lot more detail in the picture taken by the GS4.
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Exactly..Like I said...this camera is generations behind the current top shooters. Its a shame, and there's really no excuse other than being ignorant and disconnected from what customers want. They even hyped the camera with this ClearPixel nonsense - please dont hype a horrible camera. I would have DEF bought this phone had it contained a good camera.
BAH
Eager to see some more shots, but they could have done WAAY better with this.

shea-bird said:
Exactly..Like I said...this camera is generations behind the current top shooters. Its a shame, and there's really no excuse other than being ignorant and disconnected from what customers want. They even hyped the camera with this ClearPixel nonsense - please dont hype a horrible camera. I would have DEF bought this phone had it contained a good camera.
BAH
Eager to see some more shots, but they could have done WAAY better with this.
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There are issues but I'm not sure whether they are due to the sensor or the processing done on the resultant image. The former would be a huge issue, while the latter is something that could be addressed via a software update.

rajeshr said:
Here's a quick comparison shot between the MotoX & Samsung Galaxy S4. These shots were taken about 30 seconds apart and have no post processing done other than resizing each to a width of 640 pixels. The one on the left is from the Moto X and the one on the right is from the Galaxy S4.
I haven't tested the Moto X in low light or any challenging conditions.
Initial thoughts:
- The one from the GS4 os a much more accurate colour rendition of the actual scene.
- The one from the Moto X has a purplish cast to the picture (see the colour of the sky).
- There is a lot more detail in the picture taken by the GS4.
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wow, S4 makes the X look like a joke.

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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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Rippley05 said:
The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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Do you have one? Or speculation? Just wondering
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He's been bashing the M8 all day. Camera is decent just not enough megapixels for his liking.

Tell me that the photos from Engadget are fake!
They look horrible

Ive seen a couple short hands on reviews that say the M8 pics are no better than the M7. The only thing the M8 has going for it in the camera department is speed and that new refocusing feature....which one reviewer said doesnt really work that well. Hmmm

They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/

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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?

slide83 said:
They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Now they look good! I got scared at first, now here's the answer
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Frankie1588 said:
Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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Yeah, um, those Flickr photos look more than acceptable for me. I don't need the best camera if I'm getting the best screen, audio quality, and experience that the M8 will surely offer as the M7 did. The camera is literally secondary (or, well, further than that) than all of those areas and, even then, it's not really bad at all.

Frankie1588 said:
Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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NO.
NOT ENOUGH MEGAPIXELS.
/s
In all seriousness, when it comes down to cutting costs on a smartphone design, camera would be the first thing on my list too. Would you rather it be made of cheap plastic, not have front facing speakers or have a smaller battery?
I'd take superior hardware/build over a great camera any day. I know we want it all, but it seems like we just can't have it all. At least not til the M9.
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.

JCorona said:
I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.
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IMAG0065 that night time pic...looks really really really bad. but for the most part its not bad. Matter of fact all the night time ones are really bad towards the end .

In complete and utter seriousness guys (not being a fanboy either) I was MORE than pleased with the camera on the M7. That was my primary concern that I debated over for months before getting the M7 - giving up my iPhone 5 which took awesome pics was a difficult choice. Hands down, I'm more than excited to get back to Android (had to go back to my iPhone 5 due to selling my M7). The true wide angle 16:9 is so awesome and the pics were great. Overall, I felt like I was able to regularly capture more accurate color representations with the M7. Low light was pretty great too.
I will say, there were a few times where I was left wishing I could crop to a larger size and retain image quality. However, for me personally, it wasn't a big enough issue for me to ditch the phone, as I don't need to do that often enough. If you're someone who is perpetually cropping, this probably isn't going to work for you.
Also, I used to have an album of pics I took on my phone to show people when they'd play with it. I received soooo many compliments on the pics I took and more people saying "This phone has such an amazing camera" never knowing it was only 1/2 the MP's as their phones.
I understand and agree with the major drawbacks of it, however, as an overall quick shooter to the ability to take your time and change settings to get an optimal pic, it blew me away quite a few times. That's more than I could ever say about my iPhone.
Addition: there was a thread I saw with M7 vs. M8 photos and the colors looked quite a bit better and more crisp on the M8. I'm excited to see what I can do with it.

although the MP is disappointing, the strengths of the phone outweigh a blunder such as that I think. It's not like the camera is crap, it's just average for current times. We just had higher expectations as we should have especially compared to last year's. I would say the camera is "adequate"

Rippley05 said:
The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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I have the phone actually. Not just making assumptions and the camera isn't bad. The software is awesome.
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I want to see how the slow motion video is. I love that and use it all the time to record my son's sports.
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Thanks! Much better indeed. These are more than acceptable for my use.

The MKBHD first impression video of the camera shows off it's strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlt_2X8sPw

im not sure about anyone else but i really dont take many pics at night or in low light. so the camera is fine for me. i will have it on thursday so i'll find out how well it works for me soon