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Camera Comparison: HTC One X vs. Galaxy S III

http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html

Arcadia310 said:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/171674-galaxy-siii-one-x-camera-shots-comparison.html
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I would take that with a grain of salt since the retail version hasn't been released yet.
Funny fact: HOX uses samsung's image sensor (iirc, it's the same one used in GS2 and GS3 uses something else)

The ONE X is the winner hands down! Can I please have a phone with the design, camera and screen of the ONE X and the rest of the specs from the GS3?

ph00ny said:
I would take that with a grain of salt since the retail version hasn't been released yet.
Funny fact: HOX uses samsung's image sensor (iirc, it's the same one used in GS2 and GS3 uses something else)
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Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast

Damit. HTC One X has much better photos. I guess I will wait no more. Bye bye good old sgs2. I guess HTC is new king!

Aja82 said:
Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
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Imho the wider aperture of the HOX is really paying off.

Let the straw grasping begin.....
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The One X is marketed as having the best camera hardware. The SGS3 is marketed as an all around device.
If u want good photos, go One X. For everything else SGS3

Aja82 said:
Maybe so but thats "only" the BSI sensor if I'm correct? The HOX has a 8 mp BSI sensor and so does the s3 if Im correct?
The HOX furhermore has an dedicated imagechip, does the SGS3 come with this? Is that something "official" yet?
In due time we will see. But I THINK the HOX will be hard to beat in this area atleast
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They both do but there is literally zero information about the sensor being used in the s3. I think someone already matched up the model number for the S2 camera sensor to the HOX
What does the dedicated imagechip do?

ph00ny said:
They both do but there is literally zero information about the sensor being used in the s3. I think someone already matched up the model number for the S2 camera sensor to the HOX
What does the dedicated imagechip do?
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I'm not sure! But google gave me this:
HTC’s ImageChip is responsible for most of the things that would traditionally be done on the SoC ISP. 3A (Autofocus, Auto white balance, and Autoexposure), lens correction (geometric and chromatic correction), noise reduction, best shot selection, continuous auto focus, controlling gains on the CMOS sensor, LED flash level decision, region of interest identification (augmented with face detection) and so on. This is all stuff you can verify yourself by taking apart some of the ISP related files - curiously enough internally ImageChip is actually referred to as “rawchip.” This is also the hardware responsible for enabling HTC’s extremely fast image continuous capture and frame grabbing during video capture (HTC Video Pic). It’s somewhat analogous to what Google and TI did with the OMAP4460 on the Galaxy Nexus, except discrete and with a much more ambitious focus.
From http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/5

There's something wrong with those galaxy siii pics. There's way too much noise around any picture of a light. My sii takes better pictures than that. It almost looks like what pictures look like when you still have the protective plastic over the lens!

qwerty12601 said:
There's something wrong with those galaxy siii pics. There's way too much noise around any picture of a light. My sii takes better pictures than that. It almost looks like what pictures look like when you still have the protective plastic over the lens!
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True..The photos looks worse than SGS2. Also EXIF data missing.
Here's another site where you will get some photo comparison between SGS2 and SGS3 at full resolution and EXIF data.
http://android.com.pl/artykuly/arty...ksele-test-aparatu-samsunga-galaxy-s-iii.html

Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php

Remix2011 said:
Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8

Aja82 said:
Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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HOX has some very good optics. Nobody will argue about that. We know how HOX images look. That's not the point of discussion here. The photos are not 8MP resolution and don't have any metadata.
Compare this to the link I mentioned earlier, do they look like taken with the same device?

Aja82 said:
Yea sure it is
"Then there's the camera. Once again, HTC is able to deliver one of the best if not the best smartphone camera with the One X. Low light performance in particularly impressive. The new Sense camera UI is a great match for the hardware as well. The ability to take photos while recording a video without a costly mode switch is both innovative and incredibly useful."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/8
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Wel phonearena thinks the same.Its legit since they provided proof.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...alaxy-S-II-vs-Nexus-vs-N8-vs-iPhone-4S_id3006
Going by them its even worse then the SGS2.

Remix2011 said:
Theres definitlly something wrong with the SGS3 pictures because the camera on the HTC ONE X is one of the worst 8 mp cameras around.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x-review-747p6.php
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May be something is wrong with GSMARENA? Have a look at this test
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_vs_htc_titan_2-review-755p3.php
they claim that Lumia 900 takes better pics than HTC Titan II, whereas even their own samples show otherwise. I tried to post a comment on this there, it never appeared due to their censorship...

I really doubt that the photos appearing on android central are legit. The phone hasnt even gone out for reviews and this guy has it in his pocket on the streets and shoots randomly? rofl
The polish site's photos look way better.

rd_nest said:
HOX has some very good optics. Nobody will argue about that. We know how HOX images look. That's not the point of discussion here. The photos are not 8MP resolution and don't have any metadata.
Compare this to the link I mentioned earlier, do they look like taken with the same device?
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So you disagree with what you said in your 'comprehensive comparison'? If it's so comprehensive, you should include reviews from more than one source, instead of the most critical one you can find

Bull**** I call, not taken with a S3. Samsung murder HTC. Always have, always will. And I'm a One x owner.
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S3 Camera Quality

Hi everyone. I had the one X but returned it in anticipation for the galaxy s3. I was wondering if anyone that had both phones can comment on the camera quality of both. I've read reviews and it seems like the one X has a better camera with a better aperture of f/2.0, so it has better low light photos.
I wanted to test it out in stores but they are not there yet, so i was wondering if anyone can give impressions of the quality of the s3 camera (and can compare it to the one x shots). I'm still deciding between the 2 phones...
thanks!

I too had the one X but returned and pre-ordered the S3 and got it yesterday.
The two things that I liked better on One X are the camera and the display. IMO camera is noticeably better on One X, especially in low light. Also the camera app on One X is a little bit faster which might be due to the imagesense chip that One X has.
But overall Im happier with S3. Couldnt bare with One X's retarded multi tasking.
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S3 vs iPhone
here are 5 comparison shots of the iPhone 4 vs the Galaxy S3. To my eye the samsung lets in more light and it actually sometimes makes the photos contrast too white. But the color reproduction on the samsung is closer to what I see with my eye
Now keep in mind, Samsung/android gives you much greater control over ISO/exposure/etc. These pictures are taken on the default "auto" settings. I think people could make them look a lot better by actually adjusting the iso/exposure/contrast. I'll probably come back on later and compare the iPhone 4, iPhone 4s and the Samsung with adjusted settings later.

robamacaf said:
here are 5 comparison shots of the iPhone 4 vs the Galaxy S3. To my eye the samsung lets in more light and it actually sometimes makes the photos contrast too white. But the color reproduction on the samsung is closer to what I see with my eye
Now keep in mind, Samsung/android gives you much greater control over ISO/exposure/etc. These pictures are taken on the default "auto" settings. I think people could make them look a lot better by actually adjusting the iso/exposure/contrast. I'll probably come back on later and compare the iPhone 4, iPhone 4s and the Samsung with adjusted settings later.
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It almost looks like the all the iPhone photos were artificially saturated, because it's supposedly better to err on the side of too saturated than "washed out reality", for the average joe.

robamacaf said:
here are 5 comparison shots of the iPhone 4 vs the Galaxy S3. To my eye the samsung lets in more light and it actually sometimes makes the photos contrast too white. But the color reproduction on the samsung is closer to what I see with my eye
Now keep in mind, Samsung/android gives you much greater control over ISO/exposure/etc. These pictures are taken on the default "auto" settings. I think people could make them look a lot better by actually adjusting the iso/exposure/contrast. I'll probably come back on later and compare the iPhone 4, iPhone 4s and the Samsung with adjusted settings later.
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I'm really interested in your results after the settings. Currently the only thing holding me back from jumping on the galaxy s3 is the camera. But if adjusting the settings can make the camera photos appear better, then i think i'm sold. Please do post them when you do get a chance!
thanks!

Those shots are very helpful... iPhone pics definitely look better on first glance, but the colors are artificial/over-saturated and I think the S3 provides more detail in the shadow. I had a One X, and thought that camera was terrible; everything was overexposed and washed out and if I dropped exposure by one tick it went to far. Definitely more optimistic about trying the camera on my S3 when it comes tomorrow.

Here are some updated shots. I played with the S3 and got the settings I liked. One thing I didn't point out in the first set of pictures is if you zoom in on the pictures you'll notice more detail in the S3 shots, mainly because of the higher pixel count.
I think personally, the s3 camera is quite better. It has more tweaking you can do to get the shots you want. I really love the "Smile Shot" that takes a photo when it detects a smile or the fact you can say "Cheese" and it have take photos.

those are really nice pics

S3 is same sensor as S2 from what I have read. One X is brand new backlit sensor, which is why it does so well in low light conditions. One X camera is best out there right now. And yes the f2.0 wider angle lens is pretty sweet also.
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Kind of weird, samsung has a photo relationship with pentax for their SLR's and these comparison pics look a lot like those between pentax and canikon SLR's. On auto settings the pentax/samsung favor darker and less saturated compared to brighter/punchier exposures on auto settings with canon or nikon. All a matter of preference just weird to see the same sort of thing happening here.
Will be fun to play with when I finally upgrade from this cracked captivate

c5satellite2 said:
S3 is same sensor as S2 from what I have read. One X is brand new backlit sensor, which is why it does so well in low light conditions. One X camera is best out there right now. And yes the f2.0 wider angle lens is pretty sweet also.
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The sensor is an upgraded iphone 4s sensor

Are you sure about the camera sensor. I read a review last week that it was same sensor design as s2 but upgraded software. Not saying you aren't correct, just want to figure out which one it has.
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c5satellite2 said:
Are you sure about the camera sensor. I read a review last week that it was same sensor design as s2 but upgraded software. Not saying you aren't correct, just want to figure out which one it has.
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From the tear down videos/sites that I have seen they have said improved iphone 4s, try to Google it and see what they say, I might be wrong too but I'm going off the info I've seen on my rss feeds and Google searches

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...era-versus-htc-one-x-iphone-4s/?tag=cnetRiver
read this camera comparison article for s3 and others.
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Voelker45 said:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...era-versus-htc-one-x-iphone-4s/?tag=cnetRiver
read this camera comparison article for s3 and others.
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I think that comparison is pretty spot on. You can tell from the comparisons that no phone holds the win every time. They are all great phones with great cameras.

zmore said:
It almost looks like the all the iPhone photos were artificially saturated, because it's supposedly better to err on the side of too saturated than "washed out reality", for the average joe.
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There's a review of the phone that mentioned that the HDR mode was the only good shots and those are really nice.
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robamacaf said:
Here are some updated shots. I played with the S3 and got the settings I liked. One thing I didn't point out in the first set of pictures is if you zoom in on the pictures you'll notice more detail in the S3 shots, mainly because of the higher pixel count.
I think personally, the s3 camera is quite better. It has more tweaking you can do to get the shots you want. I really love the "Smile Shot" that takes a photo when it detects a smile or the fact you can say "Cheese" and it have take photos.
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wow i love your shots. THanks so much for doing this. I think in normal conditions from all the reviews and shots i've seen, the galaxy s3's photos look washed out, but it seems like with some settings it can be adjusted for. Does this affect the low light shots? (make them worse?)

I was pretty happy with this one.

Pics from my One X
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Any camera comparison's with the One X?

Surprisingly, I haven't seen any camera comparisons between the One and One X.
Seeing how many of us are upgrading FROM a One X, I'd love to see some comparison shots. To me, the camera is a huge deciding factor.
Anyone have a a link to such a comparison?

huh? there are already so many. i have seen many comparison in pocketnow, , technobuffalo, engadget, the verge, etc. the one seem to perform well against other android devices, even with iphone BUT, honestly, all the results shows that it still loses to the lumia 920.

I just rechecked those reviews and didn't see a single photo comparison between the One and One X.

use your eyes dude. technobuffalo has a whole article for it(compared with the latest phones), pocketnow even has it on its main page(against droid dna), scroll down for the against lumia 920 one.

TechnoBuffalo shows to me that Lumia 920 lost. Daytime detail is functionally identical, while low light noise is noticeably worse than the One.

Hayatte said:
use your eyes dude. technobuffalo has a whole article for it(compared with the latest phones), pocketnow even has it on its main page(against droid dna), scroll down for the against lumia 920 one.
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I can clearly see that there are some comparition betw mobilephones, but i can't find HTC One X in the list. Where do You see it?

There are no comparisons between the two yet, I'm sure someone here will do one as soon as they get their hands on the phone though.
You have to consider that review sites aren't likely to compare an old generation phone to a new one from the same company. They're interested in comparing the phones that are current, that are considered the best shooters and that people are most likely to buy. I can't see many people, if any buying a One X over the One once the One is out.....Hence review site's wont see the need to compare the two.

very good question but no one compared them for some reason, there is an evident full size quality loss coming from the One X but otherwise the camera improves on everything else
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hamdir said:
can't wait to try this camera with reduced sharpness
i freaking love it
to be honest i feel they now completed what they started with the One X camera, the camera is no complete (the bold green lines are the new improved abilities, bold red are compromised features)
- Super Fast shutter, much reduced motion blur
- Super fast focus
- Best HDR in class
- Smart Metering Flash light
- Stunning daylight image enhancements
- Stunning daylight detail from One X reduced on the new ultrapixel camera
- Optical OIS reducing motion blur further
- Excellent noiseless low light
- Excellent macro focus
These leaves only tweaknesses, the color balance is currently too much on the warm side and over exposing bright areas (due to the light loving sensor) which can all be tweaked in software
HTC have rewritten the One X camera app from scratch for the JB update which dramatically enhanced the view finder speed, they also improved many of the focus, white balance and low light issues
i have no doubt they will do the same for the new camera
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check my collective post here ultrapixel camera samples

I'm posting up a new camera review/comparison from ZDNet in the camera thread.

reddragon72 said:
I'm posting up a new camera review/comparison from ZDNet in the camera thread.
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Thx. Were do I find the "camera thread"?

I've come from the One X which I thought had an outstanding camera, better than anything else on the market. I have two mates with SG3's and they were seriously impressed.
Now I have the one I'm equally impressed. The photos look amazing. I'm not blowing them up to examine pixel quality, as I really dont care but on the phone, facebook, printed out, the quality is great.
Indoor and low light blows my socks off. It's seriously impressive what they've done here. You still get detailed shots without the glare of a flash. Seriously impressive

[Review] One vs. One X vs. Auto Enhanced photos (camera review)

Hey guys,
Today I took both, my one year old HTC One X and my new HTC One for a walk through town and I wanted to show you my photos.
The first picture is always from the One, the second one is from the One with the Auto Enhance feature and the third one is from the One X.
Taking a photo of the TV makes the picture flickering. I am not sure what's the reason for this, as it doesn't happen with the One X's camera. It also doesnt happen with my computer screen, just with the plasma TV.
The following pictures are taken pretty much in the same light conditions, however I wanted to show them all to you
In low light conditions the One seems to be ahead of the One X, at least if it's not completely dark ...
The following two pictures are taken at night time and to be honest I am very disappointed in the One:
I think even with my DSLR it would be hard to get a good photo in this light, but in my opinion the One X's photo is better than the One's photo.
All settings are standard with both phones. Maybe there are some settings to improve the camera, but it won't make a huge difference.
Looking forward to your feedback!

Thanks! finally versus the One X
yes as expected the One X had a great camera (2x the detail) its only in low light that the One beats it
as for the settings its discussed greatly in the photo thread
The One images can be washed out due to the high brightness levels in them and they seem to improve greatly once auto enhanced
check the auto enhance post here
as well as tweaking the camera settings ofcourse (exposure, contrast, sharpness etc)
I also suggest reducing the sharpness to -1, as its too aggressive by default
by the way when zoomed out, i'm finding your HTC One pictures better

Great comparison! Thanks!
In your opinion, which of the phones took "truer to life" pictures? We can tell that the colors between the One and the One X are different - it seems like the One X is adding a blue-ish hue to everything - but without seeing the original scene, it's hard for anyone but you to say which are better.
Also, it would be cool if, as the poster above me said, you could run HTC's enhance function on the One pictures and add those to the comparison

I find the htc one camera better. More details and less noise. Look at the walls, trees, and streets.
HTC One X has better color production. This might be fixed soon with the One. I remmember One X had a camera fix also.

muayyadf1 said:
I find the htc one camera better. More details and less noise. Look at the walls, trees, and streets.
HTC One X has better color production. This might be fixed soon with the One. I remmember One X had a camera fix also.
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Yeah, I agree about the detail to noise ratio. I prefer that over more megapixels.
Stupid phone just needs to get a US release date...

The pictures of the HTC One are "truer to life", but I don't really like the night photos of the One, as they are more noisy than the One X photos, aren't they?
As requested, I have added pictures of the auto enhance feature to the first post

PCServe said:
The pictures of the HTC One are "truer to life", but I don't really like the night photos of the One, as they are more noisy than the One X photos, aren't they?
As requested, I have added pictures of the auto enhance feature to the first post
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Awesome, thanks! "Auto enhance" seems to add to some pictures, and detract from others.
I think the One is less noisy than the One X during night shots taken with auto enhance, at least...but I'm not really an expert

The One X has an auto enhance feature as well, didn't try that though, and I think adding these pictures would make this thread a bit too confusing.

PCServe said:
The One X has an auto enhance feature as well, didn't try that though, and I think adding these pictures would make this thread a bit too confusing.
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I was under the impression that the One X was already auto-enhancing pictures by default, but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm running CM10 on my One X at the moment so I can't check.

Gosh terrible quality from one.
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Silellak said:
I was under the impression that the One X was already auto-enhancing pictures by default, but maybe I'm mistaken. I'm running CM10 on my One X at the moment so I can't check.
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No auto enhance is in gallery as well on the one x, but some customs mods added it to the camera

I didn't even like the camera on the One X when I owned it. This is making it even easier. The HTC One is even more like an oil painiting than the One X. None of the pictures look natural looking. The HTC One has an even more processed look than the One X, with higher contrast and sharpening and noise reduction. What is an oil painting? Look at the examples here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_painting
Looks like an HTC image doesn't it? I want natural and realistic pictures, not instagram oil painting filter. HTC can't seem to figure that out, nor even allow a RAW image for those who hate the oil painting look. Even third party cameras only get piped the imagechip processed image.
The HTc One camera is even worse than the One X camera and even more unnatural looking. The only improvement is in pitch black lighting, which look like crap regardless and people seldom take pictures in pitch black. The overcast and indoor shots which the HTC One is suppose to be better at are actually worse than the One X. So it is all around even worse than last year's camera.

shame on new child of High Tech Computers!!!

Thank you. Finally the review I was waiting for.
I really love my one x camera and I wasn't sure about the one's performance outdoors with good light, after reading almost every review of the one's camera.
The main concern was the new 4 mp (ultrapixels) sensor that should capture less detail than 8 mp on the one x.
After reading this review I am convinced that the larger pixels (ultrapixels) compensate the move from 8mp on the one x/DNA to 4 ultrapixels on the htc one and the htc one captures the same details as the htc one x. For example when zooming at the 7th row pictures the lincese plates of the 4 first cars, both on the htc one and one x are readable.I don't think any other 4mp sensor would capture this detail.
My conclusion for this test:
Outdoors good light: Tie
Outdoors low light: htc one wins, although the htc one x's picture on the last row was better.
Indoors low light: htc one wins.
Video (not on this test): The video on the htc one is two steps forward from the htc one x and the best on every smartphone. period. The OIS stabilizes the video at low light and the dual membrane microphones make every concert a joy to the ears, not like the crappy microphones on the one x or every other smartphone.
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6UIf3qqF4s
Now that I am convinced that the htc one is better than my one x in every aspect I am really waiting to have it in my hands.

The 4 MP camera was my main concern before buying the phone and I didn't like the idea of taking a step back compared to the 8 MP camera of my One X (and even 5 MP on the HTC Desire I've had before that).
After testing the ultra pixel camera for a few days now, I have to admit, that I am quite impressed with the 4 MP ultra pixel cam and I won't miss the One X's camera at all.
If I want to take some serious pictures, I will always use my DSLR, however for snapshots and the everyday use for Facebook and Instagram, the One will be perfect and better than any phone I have ever had.

Also at least one of your picture has the right side blur, guess OIS sometimes get it wrong...

You can definitely tell the daytime pics look better on the One, least the colors are more natural to me.
But, for whatever reason all the pics look bad to me. They are all blurry for some reason. Anyone else having that issue or is it just me, lol!
Sent from a galaxy far away!

I too have both one x and one, the one takes much much better photos overall, after trying it in every light and with the sun directly shining on the lense etc the one camera is impressive, and I do not miss my one x camera at all
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hamdir said:
Also at least one of your picture has the right side blur, guess OIS sometimes get it wrong...
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That's an issue with OIS not resetting. Not sure if this is a hardware or software issue.

JesseMT4G said:
You can definitely tell the daytime pics look better on the One, least the colors are more natural to me.
But, for whatever reason all the pics look bad to me. They are all blurry for some reason. Anyone else having that issue or is it just me, lol!
Sent from a galaxy far away!
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Blind Camera Shootout - Your Opinions

Hey,
i came across a blind shootout recently which featured 5 phones, one of them the LG G4.
The shootout was done by an android site and i will name the site after i post the results (i guess one or the other might know where it was from or might find it after a research - please don't give away clues or spoilers in that case).
I would simply like anyone who is interested to download the pix in the link below, compare them and share your thoughts about which phone takes the best pix in your opinion.
5 different pix were taken with each of the 5 phones (Phones, or to be more precise the Cameras are simply named A, B, C, D, and E).
For better comparison each folder contains the same picture taken with the different phones.
I would greatly appreciate it if you let me know which camera you think took the best photos and/or why.
As I said the LG G4 is one of the phones, I'll name the other 4 phones (all top ranked cams on DxOMark by the way) along with the solution on monday to give us all some time to view the pix and discuss.
I hope many will participate
Here's the link:
Blind Camera Shootout Files
Greetz,
vercetti.

Nice of you to do this, but you are not the only one who reads PA tests... NHF but you could've simply put a link of the blind shootout...
If i'm wrong i'm sorry...

I think we all already know which phone in all of the world takes the best photos, or we wouldn't be in this thread in the first place!

hey guys,
i didn't put the link in (yet) because it renders the comparison useless due to the posted solution of which camera took which photos. viewing pictures without knowing which camera took them is simply more objective...
and i posted it in the LG G4 section for a reason: i think the pix it took in this test shoot are much worse than most of the other cams and i was just wondering if you would also name one of the other 4 cams as your best shooter in this test - this only makes sense if you don't know which cam took which pictures (the reason why i didn't post the original link yet).
I'm not an owner of an LG G4 but I'm considering getting one since its camera has been praised so much (especcially manual mode + raw). The results of this shootout surprised me though.
Maybe it's just because of its weak auto mode (I'm sure all test shots were taken on auto mode on each camera). The G4's auto mode has been criticized by quite some people. I just don't understand why the G4 did so badly in this shootout.
Check the pix in the download link i provided in my first post and tell me which cam took the best pix in your opinion? A, B, C, D or E?
greetz,
vercetti.

I have used every mobile phone with a great camera, and the only one even close to the G4 is the camera is the GS6 - you have to tweak a couple of things to get all of the performance, though

Tweak a couple of things on GS6 or G4 (to get better results)?
If G4 - which tweaks are you thinking of?
Thx for your input.
v.

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I would simply like anyone who is interested to download the pix in the link below, compare them and share your thoughts about which phone takes the best pix in your opinion.
5 different pix were taken with each of the 5 phones (Phones, or to be more precise the Cameras are simply named A, B, C, D, and E).
For better comparison each folder contains the same picture taken with the different phones.
I would greatly appreciate it if you let me know which camera you think took the best photos and/or why.
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cannot expect to understand strengths and weaknesses of 5 different devices with a sample size of 5 (!)
The photo can change if you point the camera at a different angle.
if you want to know what the G4 can do and how good its camera is go through the photo samples thread. Look at hundreds of photos under different lighting conditions. Understand the features the G4 camera brings over the competition.
As I said the LG G4 is one of the phones, I'll name the other 4 phones (all top ranked cams on DxOMark by the way) along with the solution on monday to give us all some time to view the pix and discuss.
I hope many will participate
Here's the link:
Blind Camera Shootout Files
Greetz,
vercetti.
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Problem i have with the site you've sourced these from is they do not include exifs in any of their test shots and neither are thier sample shots in full resolution. That is a double fail in my book.
I realise the samples you provided are indeed full resolution but without exifs.

Thx for your answer One Twelve,
indeed 5 samples is very small, but i think if one cam produces 5 good pix while another one does not, that does indicate a difference (of course changing angle/direction will result in different exposure, focus etc. but don't forget, in a test like this all cams undergo these limitations and so if one does better than the other that sort of proves a point i think).
Yes, I've viewed every pic in the sample photo thread (not only on xda but also on other boards) and some are just incredibly good! Again, i have no doubt that the G4 is capable of the best results but usually only when shooting in manual mode and using raw format to process them later and get even better results.
Yes, the shots were stripped of exif data, only the resolution remained in there (was not done by me, i took them just how they were in the test).
The exif was surely stripped to not give away camera model/name.
My favorite Cams in this test were A and E. I thought B, C, and D had very much less detail and sometimes blurry or washed out and less contrast.
The contenders in this shootout were:
Nexus 6P
Motorola X Play
LG G4
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
Sony Xperia Z5
I'll post the results later on today as I promised.
Greetz,
v.

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Thx for your answer One Twelve,
indeed 5 samples is very small, but i think if one cam produces 5 good pix while another one does not, that does indicate a difference (of course changing angle/direction will result in different exposure, focus etc. but don't forget, in a test like this all cams undergo these limitations and so if one does better than the other that sort of proves a point i think).
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what point is that This is some random shoot with 5 devices and the opinion of readers is solicited. its a popularoty contest that does not go into pros & cons, features of any of the devices concerned.
What i wanted to check is that auto hdr was not set for landscapes. Hdr will produce a less sharper image as its a blend of more than one image. you do not want hdr to come on in such a comparison. it might for some and not others. how to tell ? With the G4 the exifs will indicate immediately but not in this case.
Also shutter speed indoors can play a factor. How fast the shot was taken. sometimes shot is taken without getting focus and its softer. How to tell ? no way.
have seen images where focus is not sharp even when shutter is adequately quick. its a focus problem. Can happen with any device.
Yes, I've viewed every pic in the sample photo thread (not only on xda but also on other boards) and some are just incredibly good! Again, i have no doubt that the G4 is capable of the best results but usually only when shooting in manual mode and using raw format to process them later and get even better results.
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I found it a bit curious you said the g4 does not do well with auto. In over 6 months the amount of people that complain about this i can count on the fingers of one hand. Compared with almost every week with some other models.
Yes, the shots were stripped of exif data, only the resolution remained in there (was not done by me, i took them just how they were in the test).
The exif was surely stripped to not give away camera model/name.
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True i checked them on the site. But they don't provide exifs for any of their shots. A problem I suspect lies with their publishing platform rather than deliberately.
My favorite Cams in this test were A and E. I thought B, C, and D had very much less detail and sometimes blurry or washed out and less contrast.
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I liked E the best.
The contenders in this shootout were:
Nexus 6P
Motorola X Play
LG G4
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
Sony Xperia Z5
I'll post the results later on today as I promised.
Greetz,
v.
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Just two out of five in that list have OIS. Was OIS tested here ? no. A competent OIS is very important unless you plan to shoot everything in excellent light.
Three out of five come with expandable storage. Just one also offers a replaceable battery.
There is another contender that will probably beat all of the above and that is the lumia 950. Was it in this test ? no
When i saw the results of this test, yes i know the rankings. A pattern jumped out.
The top two by popular vote use multi-segment metering by default, the remainder use centre weighted metering. For landscapes the former metering will look better but in other kinds of scenes centre weighted will come out better. There are tradeoffs between the two and each works best depending on the scene.
So when doing this test the metering should be the same for all. Unfortunately one candidate in that test is the odd one. It uses a different metering by default that cannot be changed so it has an edge in certain situations and a disadvantage with others.
Is difficult to conclude much without seeing exifs and they are not going to come
For future reference you want full resolutions with exifs intact to be able to start a conversation about this topic.

Wow, thx for the lengthy reply, i really apprecciate it! you bring up some interesting points that I'd like to know more about - if you have the time to answer of course.
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what point is that
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The point being that all of the 5 phones were tested in the same "bad" way. Like you already mentioned: "alter the time, direction, perspective or whatever to a small degree and the picture will be different". Yes, that is true. But this applies to all 5 phones here, not just to one. So if some produce better pix throughout the 5 shots than it implies that these phones cope better with various situations, adapt more precisely and more realiably provide better images. That's all I'm trying to say.
the opinion of readers is solicited. its a popularoty contest
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And I couldn't care less about the results of the voting
What i wanted to check is that auto hdr was not set for landscapes. Hdr will produce a less sharper image as its a blend of more than one image. you do not want hdr to come on in such a comparison.
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Thx for this information piece, very good to know.
Also shutter speed indoors can play a factor. How fast the shot was taken. sometimes shot is taken without getting focus and its softer.
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Can't understand this. Why should the chosen shutter speed influence the previous act of focusing? Shooting at 1/1000 sec doesn't mean that I want the shot to happen in the next 1/1000 of a second! I could adjust focus for half an hour if I want and then get a frame which was exposed for a 1/1000 second.
have seen images where focus is not sharp even when shutter is adequately quick. its a focus problem. Can happen with any device.
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I guess this is what you're trying to say regarding the out of focus issue.
I found it a bit curious you said the g4 does not do well with auto. In over 6 months the amount of people that complain about this i can count on the fingers of one hand.
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I know! That's why I don't get why the 5 shots in the test came out the way they did. How could he/she have messed them up so badly compared to A and E?
I liked E the best.
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Yes, hard to decide for me between E and A.
A pattern jumped out.
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What do you mean?
So when doing this test the metering should be the same for all. Unfortunately one candidate in that test is the odd one. It uses a different metering by default that cannot be changed so it has an edge in certain situations and a disadvantage with others.
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Which phone is this?
Is difficult to conclude much without seeing exifs and they are not going to come
For future reference you want full resolutions with exifs intact to be able to start a conversation about this topic.
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Yes, you're right.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts/knowledge with me!
Greetz,
v.

Hey, as promised the results:
A = Galaxy S6
B = Nexus 6p
C = Xperia Z5
D = LG G4
E = Moto X Style
Original article is from the german androidpit site, here it is:
Link
And here the blog entry with the results:
Link
Greetz,
v.

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The point being that all of the 5 phones were tested in the same "bad" way. Like you already mentioned: "alter the time, direction, perspective or whatever to a small degree and the picture will be different". Yes, that is true. But this applies to all 5 phones here, not just to one. So if some produce better pix throughout the 5 shots than it implies that these phones cope better with various situations, adapt more precisely and more realiably provide better images. That's all I'm trying to say.
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How will they behave in another 5 situations. Another 5 and so on. I cannot say. Just that in these 5 we can see some differrences.
Thx for this information piece, very good to know.
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with some devices you can tell if hdr is used with others its not indicated.
Can't understand this. Why should the chosen shutter speed influence the previous act of focusing? Shooting at 1/1000 sec doesn't mean that I want the shot to happen in the next 1/1000 of a second! I could adjust focus for half an hour if I want and then get a frame which was exposed for a 1/1000 second.
I guess this is what you're trying to say regarding the out of focus issue.
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If you click before it gets focus it will take the shot. it will never refuse. If focus was not correct did they check and retake. Otheriwse photo will not look good and its mistake of the tester not camera.
I know! That's why I don't get why the 5 shots in the test came out the way they did. How could he/she have messed them up so badly compared to A and E?
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why does it matter. there are plenty of comparisons out there. Without exifs there are no answers so i do not think more about it.
What do you mean?
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Since you posted the results, the top two by preference are z5 & moto x style. These are default multi segment shooters. in landscapes colour exposure will look better.
The rest are all centre weighted.
Which phone is this?
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moto x style is a default multi shooter. does good with landscapes. z5, samsung you can change the metering. g4 is default centre weighted like nexus 6p and htc one m9 and cannot be changed so you have to take little more care that light is not too bright in the scene. change the framing.
check this comparison out. its done by a reviewer that knows cameras
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/21116_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_950_.php
The point i'm trying to make is if the shot does not come out right you can fix it. if you know what to do. This is more important than who is the winner in any shoot out.
One cannot expect perfect shots with any camera all the time. So does the camera provide the tools to do this. Only the G4 does in your list. 6p & MXS have no manual control. Z5 has little more. The S6 is second best here.
Check out also V10, same camera as G4 but control of video. But its bigger device. Too big for me this year.
Auto shootouts are random & static there is no second chance which is not always true in real life.

This shootout was a nice try. But seriously why Camera A is always at 16MP when all the other get the crop misleading camouflage? I care about FoV in a camera and I disvalued some of them because of the intentional crop.
Interestingly, I picked E,D and A as my favourites . But I put A as third because of its sharpness mask wich I hate. Now I see A is GS6: I used to appreciate Samsung "softness" software decision this year but now I see this Contrast and sharpness mask, WTF happened to Samsung?
I used to dislike G4 usual sharpness mask instead here I see A LOT of softness. Don't know what happened with updates xD

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I used to dislike G4 usual sharpness mask instead here I see A LOT of softness. Don't know what happened with updates xD
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There was a comparison posted between G3 & G4 from android authority and it looked like G3 had the better shots in auto.
I concluded that the G4 lens was not cleam

IMHO a test has to be done by somebody who: knows how to make a good picture, knows how to set up a camera, understand the concept of exposure-shake-focus-unsharp mask-noise reduction (I am sure I miss something). None of these requirements are fulfilled by the author of this test.
In my 25 years as pro photographer I have seen so many photo editors, graphics, "experts" misunderstanding the differences between Focus accurancy, shake, contrast and sharpness mask.