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I love everything about the G2 besides our video cam peformance... i used an Epic 4G and the video was night & day difference, i couldnt believe how nice it looked compared to our G2's.
I envy Epic 4G (Samsung Galaxy S phone) users and iPhone 4 users.
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i havent actually had any issues with the 720p. The iphone 4 does record the best though. i wasnt too impressed with the sgs though.
SD card maybe?
Trust me, the Epic 4G in 720p was a night & day difference. I couldnt believe how smooth it recorded compared to my G2. My videos were slow & choppy @ 720p while the Epic 4G was smooth like an iPhone 4G.
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I've never seen another phone record HD video better than an iPhone 4. That being said, if you step down the quality on the G2 it actually looks pretty good. Also the macro on the camera is surprisingly good with adequate lighting.
Youre kiddin' right? The G2's 720p recording at low light is horrible, which is a real disappointment!
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TL24 said:
Youre kiddin' right? The G2's 720p recording at low light is horrible, which is a real disappointment!
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Kidding about what?
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Kidding about what?
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About the G2's quality... the G2 only does good in a decent lit place but at low light its horrible, just horrible man...
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I didn't even mention the 720p recording, but I agree it's below average in the current crop of smartphones. The thing is, all phones are pretty bad in low light so I don't think that's a good reason to hate on the camera. When I shoot outside with the G2 on lower quality it does look good, plain and simple.
Meh, its a phone. I dont expect good HD performance from it. If i want good HD performance I'll use my full 1080p camcorder.
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Yeah i know what you mean, but it would be nice to have a phone that can record 720p like the Galaxy S & iPhone 4.
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go get a freakin iphone then. wtf.
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go get a freakin iphone then. wtf.
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Great, now we have a fanboy gettin' mad.. buddy, relax... just because i said the iPhone 4 records a better 720p video doesnt mean i think the iPhone 4 is better.
The G2 isnt perfect and im only pointing out the obvious. Smoke a blunt will ya?
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Im gonna second that the iphone 4 is the best
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go get a freakin iphone then. wtf.
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I hate when people do that. He doesn't want an iphone, he wants the g2 to step it up. :/
Anyways, another issue is the horrid codec they use.. I use my ipod touch to record videos because the sound quality is ten times better.
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Im gonna second that the iphone 4 is the best
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Uh no it's not. Have you seen the quality of the Nokia N8. Blows away the IP4.
Low light is exceptional, dual mic recording, very high bitrate recording etc...
See here: http://vimeo.com/14903500
I think the OP has a point. If they are going to offer 720P then why not make a lens and sensor that is capable of producing a decent quality video.
Can you imagine if you took the quality of the hardware of a Nokia camera and combined it the awesomeness of Android?
I had the N8 and IP4 but I love the versatility of Android and had to come back. Telling people to go buy an iPhone is not the right reaction. Telling HTC to make a damn good camera for once is!
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Can you imagine if you took the quality of the hardware of a Nokia camera and combined it the awesomeness of Android?
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YES ! I can imagine an expensive phone.
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YES ! I can imagine an expensive phone.
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Like the G2 is cheaper than the N8? lol
I don't mind paying for quality.
Right, if you're going to advertise "720p video at 30fps!!!" then actually meet that quote. The G2 is one of the best Android phone out there so it's a shame that they can't even include a decent lens/sensor that actually records at 720p @ 30fps.
Not a deal breaker, but like i said it's lame to see a Samsung Galaxy S phone capable of doing it but we can't on ours because of some cheap ass lens/sensor/hardware limitation.
Oh and the audio quality is just horrible too - and yes i know, if i want HD video with good quality audio/video use a camcorder. But you know I paid good money for these new devices and they are advertising good quality video/audio so why settle for less? Unless you have a camcorder with you everywhere you go, your phone is sometimes the only option to capture events that maybe only happens once in a lifetime.
Just a thought.
Although I love the g2 I side with the ones saying video is kinda mediocre... G2 kicks butt in benchmarks and etc, so I was expecting video to be up there too.. the quality is iffy, esp don't like the bad audio quality.. to be honest it seems its like my G1 only in "HD"
I don't like to settle for less.. usually... but when other phones do a lot better.. eh.
However id take physical keyboard over smooth hd
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Just buy a camcorder!!
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Hi,
I am considering the Arc to be my next phone but I would like to know about its video capabilities. In nearly all HTC phones, when recording in low light conditions/at night, the camera tries to compensate the lack of light and this tends to make the video lose frames and to be really choppy. Does the Arc perform better and does it skips frames in bad lighting conditions?
Thanks!!
Videos are great on the Arc, I'd say better than on HTC.
Didn't test it on my Arc yet but in youtube are smooth videos from the Arc.
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Hi,
I am considering the Arc to be my next phone but I would like to know about its video capabilities. In nearly all HTC phones, when recording in low light conditions/at night, the camera tries to compensate the lack of light and this tends to make the video lose frames and to be really choppy. Does the Arc perform better and does it skips frames in bad lighting conditions?
Thanks!!
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Most of HTC phones have really ****ty cameras, actually the worse on the market.
Don't even wonder. Arc is another planet.
best cam of HTC is at Sensation, and is one of the best on the market now... i think
HTC Sensation is a class lower compared to Xperia Arc - not only with regard to the camera.
Dualcore is not everything.
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best cam of HTC is at Sensation, and is one of the best on the market now... i think
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Even mobile-review proves different.
GSMArena has a comparison of the LG Optimus 2X, HTC Sensation and Samsung Galaxy S2 which also features various other handsets at different junctures.
When comparing still image and video capture, they also throw in the Arc for good measure.
Draw your own conclusions.
If u own 1 HTC, then you own all off em because they all look the same. That's why I bought the ARC.
I agree, HTC phones are one class lower than SonyEricsson in terms of build quality, design and phone technology.
By just comparing the phone battery technology, all their phones are still using Lithium Ion Battery while SonyEricsson's phone are using Lithium Polymer and everyone should know that there are more benefits for Lithium Polymer over Lithium Ion Batteries.
Hey thanks for all your replies. I think I'll have to try one at the shop to get a better idea on the device itself before deciding. Still, the camera seems to be the only thing that appeals to me - the screen is a bit small (I've own 4.3 hd2/desire hd and now a 5 inch dell streak). Will definitely have to play with it - still the Arc seems to be a very sexy phone!
Thanks all!
Some of these replies look quite fanboyish.. there's a reason HTC sells so many phones..more than SE atleast
Anyway, add me to the SE fanboy list Until I get bored of Timescape I will stick to SE
There are 2 simple reasons why htc have and still do sell more phones than SE....
1. They've been in the android business since the start..
2. Until now SE's android phones have been relatively poor, and therefore SE had a bad rep.
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I have a last question : If the zoom function is used while recording a video, does the camera automatically auto-focuses the video to make it clearer/sharper, or is the video blurry when zoom is used like in every phone model? Thanks!!
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I have a last question : If the zoom function is used while recording a video, does the camera automatically auto-focuses the video to make it clearer/sharper, or is the video blurry when zoom is used like in every phone model? Thanks!!
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When you're capturing videos, you can't zoom in
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When you're capturing videos, you can't zoom in
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Oh now i realised why all videos on youtube don't have any zoom on them. Thank you very much for the infos.
I've currently got an Xperia Arc and a HTC Desire S. The camera on the Arc is superior to that on the HTC as is video recording. I've actually been a bit shocked by how poor the HTC Desire S camera is for pictures although a friend with the new Sensation says that it has a great camera, he does however qualify that by going on to say it is great "for a HTC camera" which to me, says it all.
Maybe these thread can help you to decide.
Post Pictures Taken With The Xperia Arc - LT15i/a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589
Post Pictures Taken With Your Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131274
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Maybe these thread can help you to decide.
Post Pictures Taken With The Xperia Arc - LT15i/a
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035589
Post Pictures Taken With Your Sensation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131274
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wow.. there's no comparison! Sensation's camera is quite average...
Hi,
I have the HTC Desire Z and I would like to get a 2nd phone.
There are only 2 options for me: The Arc or the Desire S. I think both HTC and SE are top manufactures in terms of design and build quality, the rest are just iS**t clones
I like the Desire S because of the uni-body aluminum design, but I think The Arc is nicer. I am a little bit concerned about the quality of the plastic on the Arc's back, an also i don't like the size ( 3,7 seams ideal for me).
I don't care about the camera, but I'm sure SE's is much better.
Howdy guys & gals, ever since getting the HTC One I had a lot of requests to put it head 2 head with the Lumia 920 in a video test, to see if the OIS on both are comparable.
Well i finally did it yesterday and managed to get the footage edited and uploaded today.
The HTC One seems to develop a clicking / popping sound every time it is put into Final Cut Pro X, not sure why.
I know this is the HTC One section so most people here will be HTC One fans, but what do you think is better ?
The Lumia seems to take it's time finding the correct lighting and the One seems to have an issue showing the clouds fully without them being fully white.
I'll let you make up your own mind
Both pros and cons.
Htc one lets in more light compared to the lumia. You can see the clouds on the lumia but not on the htc one.
Im going to have to slide with the one. Video is much more stable, more bright, and quality wise its not blurry compared to the lumia.
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Both pros and cons.
Htc one lets in more light compared to the lumia. You can see the clouds on the lumia but not on the htc one.
Im going to have to slide with the one. Video is much more stable, more bright, and quality wise its not blurry compared to the lumia.
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HTC One...its not even close.
Makes me very happy I ordered the One and not the 920(was thinking about it)
Great video comparison Sam, left a review on the comments. . .same name!
Both pros and cons, but i find the One looks more realistic with the Lighting and Colour. . .
Thanks
I am really shocked at how dark the lumia was
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:good:That was a cool test.
Nice video. The Lumia image stabilization is pretty poor. I thought it would do a better job. I thought overall, sans the clicking/popping, the One overall was better.
your videos' comment sections start to get a little annoying with all those
"Super Epic Galaxy S4 Giveaway" thing going on
I find it so weird that the One seems to be far more stable. The Lumia 920 has this rather nasty jello effect going on that is seriously affecting quality.
Wow! The htc one destroyed it!
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your videos' comment sections start to get a little annoying with all those
"Super Epic Galaxy S4 Giveaway" thing going on
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Tell me about it ....
I've tried to get them to stop, but alas they don't seem to listen! lol
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Great video comparison Sam, left a review on the comments. . .same name!
Both pros and cons, but i find the One looks more realistic with the Lighting and Colour. . .
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Much appreciated and I agree both have pro & cons it really depends what you want in the camera.
I also just posted a Galaxy S3 vs HTC One test as well
Interesting considering other reviews the Nokia did better... Maybe the HTC is better with vibrations but larger movements like walking the Nokia handles better?
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Which update were you on? Does updates affect ois sensitivity?
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Which update were you on? Does updates affect ois sensitivity?
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1.28.401.7 for the HTC One
8.0.9903.10 on the Lumia 920
Another good Video Comparison Sam, the Samsung is just like the Nokia though, quite dark, i still prefer the Ones video. . . i think this will actually be hard to beat on that quality! However, as much as i hate to say this. The S3's audio is better. Its not got as much Base as the One, which i find more realistic. . . But then im not in your car so i dont know how it sounds, does your car sound quite basey? Only you can answer this one my friend lol
audio on the S3 wasn't as good to me... the One cut out the wind/road noise present.
Just showed your video to my wife. She said and I quote " the 920 looks like an old cheap crap phone". She said that HTC One was miles better. Better stabilization, better light. She was well impressed with the One. Thought the 920 was ****.
Hello Sam buddy
To my eyes it appears that it's a matter of exposure.
The 920 seems to be doing a very good job of exposing the sky. It shows very good detail of the clouds, but is under exposing the road. Anytime you go downhill the road is then "lit up" (much brighter) which I assume is because the land is then taking up a much bigger chunk of the overall picture so exposing that part becomes the priority?
The One seems to be the reverse. It is focusing on the road so the sky portion of the image is very over exposed. It is very difficult to see any decent cloud detail but road/foliage looks very natural, bright and clear, if maybe a little washed out.
When going downhill the 920 seems the better picture to me. Better shadow detail, more vivid skies etc.
Not really sure how to end this post. It just leaves me wondering how the Nokia would react to the exact same test on a very bright, sunny day. Would it still focus on the sky and cause even more under exposure of the road?
One last thing.... What happens if the 920 is "aimed" down a little further? I'm guessing it would then concentrate on exposing the land more than the sky?
Too late. Bed
Thanks for the test.
P. S. Apologies for not mentioning stabilisation which is what the test was all about!
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I'm a previous HTC owner but traded it in for a Z1 last month. Both are great-looking, well-built phones Below is a list of the pros and cons of each from my perspective.
HTC One Pros:
Better display quality
Much better speakers
Zoe and VDO highlights: two features I miss the most
Blinkfeed….though many slag it, I actually liked it, and easy to turn it off anyway.
Xperia Z1 Pros
Much better camera in all conditions
Micro SD card support
Waterproof
Physical camera shutter button
Larger screen
Slightly faster performance
Lighter skin
Two great phones. The main reason I upgraded was for the camera, and no Micro SD card slot is too limiting for me. Very happy with the Z1. I hope Sony can improve the camera application to allow user to take more advantage of the great camera. Happy with the Z1, but really miss HTC's ZOE's and Video highlights. I hope Sony can create something similar in their next software version.
Cool..but what about the build quality? Which one do you think its more premium?
thanks for sharing
What about one having an absolute garbage of a speaker?
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I thought he covered it by saying the HTC One has much better speakers..
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I thought he covered it by saying the HTC One has much better speakers..
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ObamaCare said:
Cool..but what about the build quality? Which one do you think its more premium?
thanks for sharing
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Build quality is excellent. THE Z1 feels premium in the hand. HTC One and Sony XPEria Z and Z1 have got the best Android build quality bar none.
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Two great phones. The main reason I upgraded was for the camera, and no Micro SD card slot is too limiting for me. Very happy with the Z1. I hope Sony can improve the camera application to allow user to take more advantage of the great camera. Happy with the Z1, but really miss HTC's ZOE's and Video highlights. I hope Sony can create something similar in their next software version.
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The SD issue would also have been solved if you had a HTC ONE Dual sim version, like i do, so the SD "issue" is not 100% fair...
The cam on HTC one has a mutch better auto feature...
- but on the Z1 at least have the hardware to make a great camera down the line, if Sony will do the work... 4mp in the HTC ONE is simply sooo last century...
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What about one having an absolute garbage of a speaker?
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Well, the speaker on the Z1 is garbage in the same way that all mobile phone speakers are garbage. The HTC One is the only mobile phone or tablet with decent quality speakers that I've ever used. That said I listen to music on my stereo or using headphones, so in most situations, I don't use the phone speaker anyway.
You forgot to mention the Much better Battery Quality the Better Grip (aluminum is slippery and easily scratched) Better Lock/Power button placement (hated the upper one on the Htc)
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I have handled both extensively and I'll give it a tie. The Z1 feels more premium with the glass on both sides however the HTC One's unibody design overall is nicer to hold in hand and the aluminum has its own charm. The Z1 feels more 'solid' because it's heavier but they are both equal in build quality.
In terms of usability I will give it to the Z1 completely. Although it's a bigger device the side power button makes it a million times easier to use than the HTC One's power button on top.
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Well, the speaker on the Z1 is garbage in the same way that all mobile phone speakers are garbage. The HTC One is the only mobile phone or tablet with decent quality speakers that I've ever used. That said I listen to music on my stereo or using headphones, so in most situations, I don't use the phone speaker anyway.
I also switched from HTC One since two weeks now and I don't regret my choice.
Personally I prefer the screen of the Z1 and I really feel that it is faster, the only thing that disappointed me is the camera I was expecting more from a 20MP sensor, photos that I took were all noisy especially in low light conditions, I hope that Sony will improve the camera with future updates.
The speaker is just limited by Sony. Once you flash the volume mod it's a perfect speaker for a sumergible phone) remember the speaker is water protected?)
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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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Do you have one? Or speculation? Just wondering
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He's been bashing the M8 all day. Camera is decent just not enough megapixels for his liking.
Tell me that the photos from Engadget are fake!
They look horrible
Ive seen a couple short hands on reviews that say the M8 pics are no better than the M7. The only thing the M8 has going for it in the camera department is speed and that new refocusing feature....which one reviewer said doesnt really work that well. Hmmm
They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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They were over-compressed and they've reposted the originals at http://www.flickr.com/photos/phonewisdom/sets/72157642913906483/
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Now they look good! I got scared at first, now here's the answer
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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Yeah, um, those Flickr photos look more than acceptable for me. I don't need the best camera if I'm getting the best screen, audio quality, and experience that the M8 will surely offer as the M7 did. The camera is literally secondary (or, well, further than that) than all of those areas and, even then, it's not really bad at all.
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Call me crazy, but I think those look perfectly fine?
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NO.
NOT ENOUGH MEGAPIXELS.
/s
In all seriousness, when it comes down to cutting costs on a smartphone design, camera would be the first thing on my list too. Would you rather it be made of cheap plastic, not have front facing speakers or have a smaller battery?
I'd take superior hardware/build over a great camera any day. I know we want it all, but it seems like we just can't have it all. At least not til the M9.
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I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.
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I'm sold. I'm no Pro Photographer but those pics look near perfect to me.
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IMAG0065 that night time pic...looks really really really bad. but for the most part its not bad. Matter of fact all the night time ones are really bad towards the end .
In complete and utter seriousness guys (not being a fanboy either) I was MORE than pleased with the camera on the M7. That was my primary concern that I debated over for months before getting the M7 - giving up my iPhone 5 which took awesome pics was a difficult choice. Hands down, I'm more than excited to get back to Android (had to go back to my iPhone 5 due to selling my M7). The true wide angle 16:9 is so awesome and the pics were great. Overall, I felt like I was able to regularly capture more accurate color representations with the M7. Low light was pretty great too.
I will say, there were a few times where I was left wishing I could crop to a larger size and retain image quality. However, for me personally, it wasn't a big enough issue for me to ditch the phone, as I don't need to do that often enough. If you're someone who is perpetually cropping, this probably isn't going to work for you.
Also, I used to have an album of pics I took on my phone to show people when they'd play with it. I received soooo many compliments on the pics I took and more people saying "This phone has such an amazing camera" never knowing it was only 1/2 the MP's as their phones.
I understand and agree with the major drawbacks of it, however, as an overall quick shooter to the ability to take your time and change settings to get an optimal pic, it blew me away quite a few times. That's more than I could ever say about my iPhone.
Addition: there was a thread I saw with M7 vs. M8 photos and the colors looked quite a bit better and more crisp on the M8. I'm excited to see what I can do with it.
although the MP is disappointing, the strengths of the phone outweigh a blunder such as that I think. It's not like the camera is crap, it's just average for current times. We just had higher expectations as we should have especially compared to last year's. I would say the camera is "adequate"
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The pictures are poor. You're gonna have some good, some bad, but overall the camera is poor. Especially when zooming at all.
The camera app itself is snappy and it'll focus fast, but this ultra pixel with 4mp just isn't gonna get it. There is 2 year old technology cranking out better, more consistent pictures.
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I have the phone actually. Not just making assumptions and the camera isn't bad. The software is awesome.
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I want to see how the slow motion video is. I love that and use it all the time to record my son's sports.
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Thanks! Much better indeed. These are more than acceptable for my use.
The MKBHD first impression video of the camera shows off it's strengths and weaknesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSlt_2X8sPw
im not sure about anyone else but i really dont take many pics at night or in low light. so the camera is fine for me. i will have it on thursday so i'll find out how well it works for me soon