Just to know some direct & simple information.
1. What's better(fast & smooth) Android NAND or Native SD(say with a 32 GB class 10 card)???
2. If we change or modify something (eg. SystemUI.apk) how to flash these mods (like in flashable CWM zip files for installed NAND ROMs) in to a installed Native SD ROM???
Any advice??? :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Native sd.... is faster than nand... provided you have a good ( branded like.. san disk) sd card
Now you can enjoy another OS like wp7.8 or am on nand with fast android on native sd....
You can have multiple native sd.... roms and switch between them easily...
helpful for those who have bad nand blocks
Also read the native sd.... thread for further info... its all there
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Does native mode neds adapted layout?
I'm new here. The layout must be adapted in native mode? If so, how? On my HD2 running MIUI-GB Nand in mode.
awesome was wondering that myself just got san 32g class 10 card going to give it a go... thx )
wyssothmar said:
I'm new here. The layout must be adapted in native mode? If so, how? On my HD2 running MIUI-GB Nand in mode.
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give the links below a try, it could help.
Curious
pakure said:
Native sd.... is faster than nand... provided you have a good ( branded like.. san disk) sd card
Now you can enjoy another OS like wp7.8 or am on nand with fast android on native sd....
You can have multiple native sd.... roms and switch between them easily...
helpful for those who have bad nand blocks
Also read the native sd.... thread for further info... its all there
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So curious Why Native SD with Class 10 faster than NAND
SD Class 10 = R/W Speed ≈ 10mb/s
NAND =? (I don't know but i thought it faster)
am I wrong?
its nothing to do with top rated speed, which is based on a continual consecutive read/write of large block sizes, , writing captured video, for example, , for nativeSD (i.e running an OS) its all about how fast the random read/write of 4k blocks is. Most class 10 cards are slower than class 6, for example, when it comes to nativeSD.
As to why its faster than nand, i seem to remember reading that the nand is a approximately equivalent to a class 5 card.
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I was wondering if it would be possible to either Boot Windows Phone 7 through MAGLDR from the SD Card like you can Android by maybe partitioning the SD Card so it cn have it's own space?
Or a more realistic option which would be to have a NAND ROM that includes both Android and WP7 installed to the NAND and partition the SD card for storage? This second option I believe could be possible if the NAND is partitioned correctly to allow them both to run and then you could select them in the MAGLDR!
I would like some dev feedback on this as I would try building a ROM myself but I don't know the workings of the partitioning system in MAGLDR well enough to try!
Thanks in Advance for any help!
Maby this is what you are looking for?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
Cheers
Fabian1985 said:
Maby this is what you are looking for?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
Cheers
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I've seen that but what I want is to boot Android and WP7 from NAND NOT run android from the SD Card like that guy done because that makes android run slow and I want android as my primary OS!
microang said:
I've seen that but what I want is to boot Android and WP7 from NAND NOT run android from the SD Card like that guy done because that makes android run slow and I want android as my primary OS!
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I run Android from SD as my primairy OS, WP7 is on NAND just to play with and test it. I tried Android on NAND, but to me it wasn't noticably faster then when running from SD.
Cheers,
/Cacti
Snap I'm using sd build of Android from magldr and it runs fine even boots ok, there might be a little lag when doing something the first time but other than that its great
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Snap I'm using sd build of Android from magldr and it runs fine even boots ok, there might be a little lag when doing something the first time but other than that its great
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Well the thing is I like to use a fully fledged Desire HD ROM and it's stupidly slow from the SD card... my current build is squashfs'd so only takes up about 200mb for the actual OS and I'm sure WP7 could be fitted in the rest of the space and like I'm doing now I can use EXT4 on the sd for data! Now what's needed is if someone can build a hybrid ROM!
le_cactus said:
I run Android from SD as my primairy OS, WP7 is on NAND just to play with and test it. I tried Android on NAND, but to me it wasn't noticably faster then when running from SD.
Cheers,
/Cacti
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Hi, anyone can share how to u do this ? is it through the method that uses 2 sd cards during the formatting stage ?
Btw, what if i dont mind swapping sd cards for diff os ? Can this be done and how ? I tried to insert another sd card which I previously use for my android sd build, tried the sd boot , it gave an error of sd kernel . anyone can advise ?
Thanks !!
I wud like to know that can I run ICS from nand and gb from sd card. I have never tried running from sd card. How good is it as compared to nand install.?
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Yes you can, you can even have multiple ROMS in SD, follow the link below & see how easy it is to put an SD ROM in SD & boot from there.
Of course you can!
Cons of SD version? Might be slower (especially with loading times) if your SD card isn't high quality. Higher battery drain may be present (because SD is being read/written on at all times), but not much.
Apart from that, they're as good as NAND versions.
Of course you can!
Hi
Tried to search for quite a while now.
Unsuccessfully.
so I'll ask; is it possible to dual boot the HTC hd2...
.......with two versions of android BOTH on the sdcard.
not different cards. The same on (assuming there's enough space)
Sorry if there's a previous thread: couldn't find it.
Many thanks
Yes. One method is to use two NativeSD ROMs. Higher the class sdcard the better it works.
All you need to do is install the NativeSD ROMs in the ext4 partition and then when you want to change from rom1 to rom2 you just launch the application, choose rom2 and reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869673
thanks very much to that/
you can even triple boot
try the links below, it might help
thanks for that! i had no clue but triple boot would be great!
one for daily use, one for performance, and one for testing! :laugh::highfive:
Some guys have around 12 android native sd roms running from same sd card and wp7 running from nand
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i've currently managed five android roms on an 8gb sdcard, with extremely high performance on all but one.
however, from what i've heard, and read you need a lot larger sdcards, often just for one or two roms. could u please explain whats going on? and what does the card class have to do with it? cosidering you have 3 hd2s in the family, all with high level mods, i'm sure you know
You will need atleast 1 gb per rom to install more apps...so partition according to your needs...remaining fat 32 portion is common to share between the rom s installed..so if you want lot of music or movies, naturally you will need more...also if you have wp7 on nand, you will need another partition for that..so you probably will need larger card...
I have 16 gb cards with wp7, 2 native sd android rom
Class 4 atleast will ensure better speed..use sandisk...
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Hi.
1. I've been gone for few months, and I've noticed that there have appeared something called native SD. What is that?
2. Is HWA on ICS fully stable or still has random freezes when using HWA (game or video player) app? I still have freezes in some games...
3. What rom can you point me as stable and smooth? Except Dorimanx and Tytyng CM7 roms...
native sd is the new tech in hd2 history......it uses ext4 partition for your rom internal memory...it is faster than nand rom, you can set internal memory of your choice...no more low space (nand EU hd2 has only 512mb space)...so, fast android on sd card, and then nand is free to install whatever..(wp 7.8 )
try it out..read it..happiness guaranteed
pacman hd2 rom..pure awesomeness
I have clk by kokotas now, and how to set NativeSD?
kubekpop said:
I have clk by kokotas now, and how to set NativeSD?
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Hello kubekpop,
here's the link to securecrt's NativeSD thread. Read the first posts, Especially in post 2 there's information on how to set up Native SD with clk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1881205
and here's the link to mengfeis excellent thread on Native SD for new users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1881205
don't forget thanking both of them and all the other great developers who work on our frankensteinian devices!
Have fun
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Thanks, but all my problems gone when I found nbh file to clk. Firstly I tried to flash img file through fastboot, and it wan sot a bootable img I think... Now all works fine, and it's really faster than NAND in booting etc...
Best non UHS-I MicroSD card for Use with DirectSD/NativeSD?
Looking for 32GB+
Thanks in advance!
Chose anything you like, but nativesd is kind of preffered
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Why should NativeSD be preferred over DirectSD?
Vampireking said:
Why should NativeSD be preferred over DirectSD?
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Possibly Ease of setup? DirectSD isnt as well adopted as NativeSD at the moment
KShion619 said:
Best non UHS-I MicroSD card for Use with DirectSD/NativeSD?
Looking for 32GB+
Thanks in advance!
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Hello KShion619,
Adata microSDHC 32GB
Premier Pro
(AUSDH32GUI1-RA1)
would be my preferred choice. As you may know, for NativeSD r/w IOPS, average r/w access time and random r/w speed are the important stats, not sequential r/w (which is only necessary when handling with big files, i. e. watching movies, recording etc.). I‘m running NativeSD from a SanDisk 16GB Class 6 card and it's fast. I have a table with over 50 Cards compared, but the legend is German. If you are interested in it anyway PM me and I‘ll send it over.
I recommend the NativeSD thread by securecrt for a full overview of how NativeSD works and how to set up. Read, read, read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869673
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Possibly Ease of setup? DirectSD isnt as well adopted as NativeSD at the moment
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Before NativeSD DirectSD was the option running Android if you wanted to keep WM on your phone. Native SD is way faster than Direct SD. Ease of use is another cause for using NativeSD. Most important, when using NativeSD you can opt to install multiple Android builds to your SD card and switch between them.
I recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1881205 for a useful guide how to set up NativeSD with elegant usability.
Kindest regards
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Getrid said:
Before NativeSD DirectSD was the option running Android if you wanted to keep WM on your phone. Native SD is way faster than Direct SD. Ease of use is another cause for using NativeSD. Most important, when using NativeSD you can opt to install multiple Android builds to your SD card and switch between them.
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Hi Getrid, are you sure you are not confusing DirectSD with SD builds?
SD builds were the precursor of NativeSD and were run from system and data images on the fat32 partition. They were a bit slow, but were certainly useable, and that was before newer SD cards were around.
DirectSD was started by boxmax after NativeSD was introduced and uses 2 ext4 partitions, 1 for system and the other for data.
Chautruongthinh has continued to use the DirectSD option in the latest roms, and has found a speed advantage over NativeSD, of course using a good quality sdcard. It is possible to switch between NativeSD, DirectSD and SDbuilds (and NAND) ROMS without too much trouble since the file structures allow this to happen without cross contamination.
Robbie P said:
Hi Getrid, are you sure you are not confusing DirectSD with SD builds?
SD builds were the precursor of NativeSD and were run from system and data images on the fat32 partition. They were a bit slow, but were certainly useable, and that was before newer SD cards were around.
DirectSD was started by boxmax after NativeSD was introduced and uses 2 ext4 partitions, 1 for system and the other for data.
Chautruongthinh has continued to use the DirectSD option in the latest roms, and has found a speed advantage over NativeSD, of course using a good quality sdcard. It is possible to switch between NativeSD, DirectSD and SDbuilds (and NAND) ROMS without too much trouble since the file structures allow this to happen without cross contamination.
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Oh, how embarrassing!
Of course, you're absolutely right, Robbie P. Although I read and even typed "DirectSD" my mind processed "SD build", ts. Plus, I even use boxmax‘s ROMs.
Shaking my head in disbelief
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