I wud like to know that can I run ICS from nand and gb from sd card. I have never tried running from sd card. How good is it as compared to nand install.?
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Yes you can, you can even have multiple ROMS in SD, follow the link below & see how easy it is to put an SD ROM in SD & boot from there.
Of course you can!
Cons of SD version? Might be slower (especially with loading times) if your SD card isn't high quality. Higher battery drain may be present (because SD is being read/written on at all times), but not much.
Apart from that, they're as good as NAND versions.
Of course you can!
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Ladies & gentlemen;
Good day!
Well, I am one of those who admire the XDA BIG TIIIMMEE!! However I have an HD2 and managed to have it as a NAND Android after the help of the XDA (as usual of course!) Anyway when I started looking for new ROMs I have noticed that there is new method or way which I do not grasp, comprehend and assimilate AT ALL....ZIP that is, such as [A2SD+], NAND SD and ClockworkMod.Recovery!!!
What is the difference between running Android on NAND & SD with ClockworkMod?!
I am sorry people because truly I must have missed threads or the way of understanding, so hopefully you'll going to be the teacher of mine for now and always!
Could anyone help me as if I am 7 years old?!!!
THANK YOU XDA & Members!!!!
Android nand is running off internal memory. Sd option is what it says, a build running off your sd card opposed to running it with nand.
Thank you for your explanation, but does that mean if the Android runs off internal memory would make the running proccess faster or it would hepl smoothen applications response?! What is the use if I already have the internal memory, wouldn't be even better off?!
Hello
SD Builds start to boot from SD card while being on WM6.5. The hardware shutsdown WinMo and runs Android on it.
NAND Builds run from the internal memory of the phone(just like where WinMo was before)
RAM Builds load all the OS from the SD Card inside the RAM.
[A2SD+] means that you can use a small ext2,ext3 or ext4 partition in your SD Card for increasing your internal storage memory for installing more apps... so this means more internal space.
ClockworkMod is a small linux-based booting utility allowing users to install Android Builds on-the-go which are stored as zip packages on the SD Card. It allows you to install new kernels as update.zip packages as well without having to re-format your entire phone again, or just to erase all personal data on the sd-ext partition.
So, in fact a lot of things have changed in the last 3 months... these are just a few features i can tell you about every method, but at least I hope this will help you to understand quickly a bit about all that.
You know!!?? I Thank you all guys!!!!
NAND runs off the internal memory and even though you get much lower Quadrant scores, NAND is much more responsive and smooth.
The only reason SD based builds get more Quadrant is because of I/O speeds thanks to the SD card.
SD builds are fast, but NAND builds are much SMOOTHER and reliable and if you can do something on SD, you can do it just as well on NAND (gaming for example).
Hi there
So I'm reading for a while the topics about android on SD Card, but I couldn't fix some issues and I hope you'll get me out:
1) Can I use the original ROM from my HD2 and install Android on a SD Card
2) Is there a possibility to install Android on the SD Card and get a boot loader where I can choose between a WinMo boot and an Android boot or do I have to boot always WinMo 6.5 before booting Android?
3) I read that the speed with the SD Card Mode is slower than the other ways, how can I understand that? Do I have to wait longer during the boot of android or are there also speed problems while working with android?
4) Also on the speed problem: Which SD Card would you recommend for Android on SD? Are there any measurable speed differences between the CD Classes?
best regards
Blacklight-IT said:
Hi there
So I'm reading for a while the topics about android on SD Card, but I couldn't fix some issues and I hope you'll get me out:
1) Can I use the original ROM from my HD2 and install Android on a SD Card
2) Is there a possibility to install Android on the SD Card and get a boot loader where I can choose between a WinMo boot and an Android boot or do I have to boot always WinMo 6.5 before booting Android?
3) I read that the speed with the SD Card Mode is slower than the other ways, how can I understand that? Do I have to wait longer during the boot of android or are there also speed problems while working with android?
4) Also on the speed problem: Which SD Card would you recommend for Android on SD? Are there any measurable speed differences between the CD Classes?
best regards
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Yes you can install android on SD and use WM6.5. Its what most of us did back when you couldn't NAND boot android. There are several bootloaders around yes, however you always have to boot into windows in order to boot SD android. This means android SD boot time is much much longer than NAND, however this is not really that big of a problem. As with the speed problems with the ROM itself, well lets just say i much rather prefer NAND to SD, I used SD for a long time and NAND was something that made me very happy. I didnt really see a problem with SD builds however I simply felt more secure using NAND. Also, with an SD build the speed of the phone is dependent on your SD card class, most SD cards are class 2, mine is class 6 and my SD build worked fine however I have seen people saying its slower with a lower class card. I don't know whether its actually a real issue, like you need a class 4 card to run android properly however people sometimes complain. This however could simply be their ROM's/Phones being slow.
Does this version (FEB 14)[SD]MCCM HD V4.0 [DESIRE HD Sense] Perfect [kernel gauner1986's] work at anyobody with the original ROM ( 3.14.207.1 ) and 2.15.50.14 Radio ?
My actual version is the
[Dec 18][RAM] darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom]
and it works.
The installation of the MCCM is exactly the same but it doesn't work.
When my device reboots there is the HTC logo on a white background and i have waited for an hour but nothing happend.
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Yes you can install android on SD and use WM6.5. Its what most of us did back when you couldn't NAND boot android. There are several bootloaders around yes, however you always have to boot into windows in order to boot SD android. This means android SD boot time is much much longer than NAND, however this is not really that big of a problem. As with the speed problems with the ROM itself, well lets just say i much rather prefer NAND to SD, I used SD for a long time and NAND was something that made me very happy. I didnt really see a problem with SD builds however I simply felt more secure using NAND. Also, with an SD build the speed of the phone is dependent on your SD card class, most SD cards are class 2, mine is class 6 and my SD build worked fine however I have seen people saying its slower with a lower class card. I don't know whether its actually a real issue, like you need a class 4 card to run android properly however people sometimes complain. This however could simply be their ROM's/Phones being slow.
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Sounds good. So what I don't understand: Booting Android from SD Card - does WinMo Shutdown or does it still run in the background? So is the full capacity of the CPU & RAM available or not?
I think a Class 6 16GB should be enough for that game. I actually like my original ROM and would like to try android just for fun, so I think the NAND Method wouldn’t be that, what I’m looking for.
Do I have to buy a card reader for my SD Card?
Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
Blacklight-IT said:
Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
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My opinion about Android on a SD card is very positive.
My version is very stable.
Until now I hadn't problems with any bugs.
The browser is very fast, the camera good, the connection to WiFi is perfect and all games work
But it's clear that you have to charge your mobile often
Blacklight-IT said:
Sounds good. So what I don't understand: Booting Android from SD Card - does WinMo Shutdown or does it still run in the background? So is the full capacity of the CPU & RAM available or not?
I think a Class 6 16GB should be enough for that game. I actually like my original ROM and would like to try android just for fun, so I think the NAND Method wouldn’t be that, what I’m looking for.
Do I have to buy a card reader for my SD Card?
Any other experiences with Android on a SD Card?
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SD android also has a high battery drain, I dont know the exact figures but i think in standby sd builds are 5-10mA, where most NAND builds are 2-5. You wouldn't NEED to get a card reader, however it would be an extreme help. SD android is very good, however NAND is better for me because personally, android blows the socks off WM6.5, so I just decided to go all out. SD android runs on top of WM6.5 yes, however WM6.5 is shut down so you do get the full power of ram/cpu etc.
I love SD, partly because I love my build (Black&Blue Remix), and have been rock-solid on it since November. I keep trying other SD Builds, as well as NAND builds, but I'm so hapyp with my set-up I have no desire to change, at least until builds with updated Sense/GingerBread/Honeycomb come out
I've got the Extended Battery pack so maybe that sways my judgement.
But I have no qualms in recommending SD!
King-Chris111 said:
Does this version (FEB 14)[SD]MCCM HD V4.0 [DESIRE HD Sense] Perfect [kernel gauner1986's] work at anyobody with the original ROM ( 3.14.207.1 ) and 2.15.50.14 Radio ?
My actual version is the
[Dec 18][RAM] darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom]
and it works.
The installation of the MCCM is exactly the same but it doesn't work.
When my device reboots there is the HTC logo on a white background and i have waited for an hour but nothing happend.
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Has no one any information ?
Samdeath said:
SD android also has a high battery drain, I dont know the exact figures but i think in standby sd builds are 5-10mA, where most NAND builds are 2-5. You wouldn't NEED to get a card reader, however it would be an extreme help. SD android is very good, however NAND is better for me because personally, android blows the socks off WM6.5, so I just decided to go all out. SD android runs on top of WM6.5 yes, however WM6.5 is shut down so you do get the full power of ram/cpu etc.
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Sounds good. Thanks
To make this part clear: I can only download a Android ROM, put it on my SD Card, insert it in my HD2 and here we go? HSPL is only needed when I'm trying to flash android?
smeddy said:
I love SD, partly because I love my build (Black&Blue Remix), and have been rock-solid on it since November. I keep trying other SD Builds, as well as NAND builds, but I'm so hapyp with my set-up I have no desire to change, at least until builds with updated Sense/GingerBread/Honeycomb come out
I've got the Extended Battery pack so maybe that sways my judgement.
But I have no qualms in recommending SD!
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So the question to you is:
What do you understand under high battery drain? I recharge my phone every night, not depending if it's empty or not (does this have an influence on battery life btw?), so... does the battery last for 2-3 hours of surfing, emails ... on sd android ?
Yes I've searched and have not found a definite answer.
Sorry I'm new to the HD2 coming from a Vibrant but was wondering what is faster and more efficient?
NAND or SD?
Alanrocks15 said:
Yes I've searched and have not found a definite answer.
Sorry I'm new to the HD2 coming from a Vibrant but was wondering what is faster and more efficient?
NAND or SD?
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NAND has more ROMs and seems better on battery life, but both are good.
If you are going to be Android only (no WP7 Dual-Boot) I'd probably go NAND. However, here are the things I like more about sd:
1) This ROM IMO is better than any NAND I've seen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
2) You get more "phone storage" because you can basically choose how much space you have. This eliminates the need for an ext partition on your SD or any fear of running out of app space.
3) multiple ROMs. You can have like 5 roms on SD and all you do is tell the bootloader which to load or change the folder name and it boots!
For those reasons I prefer SD, but NAND offers more choices.
From what I've found, speed wise...just depends on the rom but typically NAND is faster. Stability wise NAND is from what I've used and tried. But it mainly depends on which OS you have on NAND Windows wise from what I've gathered but I don't have any interest in WM6.5 so I've ran all NAND builds lately without any issues.
I have setup a dual boot of WP7 and SD Android and it worked ok but found I typically didn't boot into WP7 as much so I wiped and went NAND Android
orangekid said:
2) You get more "phone storage" because you can basically choose how much space you have. This eliminates the need for an ext partition on your SD or any fear of running out of app space.
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With the built in Apps 2 SD in Gingerbread it's a easy transfer to memory card without having to install a ext partition. It's all built in on the Applications menu to move them to the SD card to free up app space in the memory
with nand you can also have multi roms on your sd and flash at random. i have about 3 i like best and then flash when i feel the need for a change. i personally prefer nand over sd but if you ask someone else they're likely to disagree. the big reason i like nand over sd is because i see a huge difference in battery life with nand and i also prefer android over winmo. if you like winmo and would use it then go the sd route but if you dont like it & dont plan to use it then go the nand route.
So I've tried searching to the answer of this question for a couple days now, with no luck. I am currently running ANDROID 2.2 via NAND on my HTC HD2 with a 16GB SD Card. With that said I was wondering if there is any possible way to also boot another build of ANDROID via my SD CARD though MAGLDR?
I like having the stability of having the certain ROM i have now on my NAND, but I would like to try out other ROMS and just run them off the SD CARD. I tried partitioning the SD card with no luck. I try to boot the ROM on my SD CARD through MAGLDR but after a while it just reboots into my NAND ANDROID ROM.
Does anybody know how I can run ANDROID via NAND and another ANDROID build via SD CARD???
I believe I've seen this asked before and the answer was no its not possible. I'm really not 100% sure but I'm rather curious now. I will try to find the thread I seen the post in & report back.
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An easy run around would be to keep the roms you like most on your sd card & just flash them when you want a change. I keep 3 on my sd card for just that reason.
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Ive heard a lot of people running multiple android version with magldr..one on nand, the other ons are sd builds.
You can also have wp7 on nand and run a android sd build from sd.
Never tried a sd build on magldr, so cant say how to do that - using clk and the sd boot is just in comming -, just read some stickies with tutorials yourself...but its to 100% possible
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i use a nand android (sense eclipse) and two sd builds (american android and 3 dak's miui rom). if you look at sd android thread you can easily find sd builds supporting mgldr.to do that partitioning of sd is not necessary. the only trouble may be about sd-ext,since some applications may transpass from one rom to the other via sd-ext. so if you can disable using sd-ext for sd-roms you'll have no problem.
Hi
Tried to search for quite a while now.
Unsuccessfully.
so I'll ask; is it possible to dual boot the HTC hd2...
.......with two versions of android BOTH on the sdcard.
not different cards. The same on (assuming there's enough space)
Sorry if there's a previous thread: couldn't find it.
Many thanks
Yes. One method is to use two NativeSD ROMs. Higher the class sdcard the better it works.
All you need to do is install the NativeSD ROMs in the ext4 partition and then when you want to change from rom1 to rom2 you just launch the application, choose rom2 and reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869673
thanks very much to that/
you can even triple boot
try the links below, it might help
thanks for that! i had no clue but triple boot would be great!
one for daily use, one for performance, and one for testing! :laugh::highfive:
Some guys have around 12 android native sd roms running from same sd card and wp7 running from nand
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i've currently managed five android roms on an 8gb sdcard, with extremely high performance on all but one.
however, from what i've heard, and read you need a lot larger sdcards, often just for one or two roms. could u please explain whats going on? and what does the card class have to do with it? cosidering you have 3 hd2s in the family, all with high level mods, i'm sure you know
You will need atleast 1 gb per rom to install more apps...so partition according to your needs...remaining fat 32 portion is common to share between the rom s installed..so if you want lot of music or movies, naturally you will need more...also if you have wp7 on nand, you will need another partition for that..so you probably will need larger card...
I have 16 gb cards with wp7, 2 native sd android rom
Class 4 atleast will ensure better speed..use sandisk...
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