Running ANDROID via NAND & SD CARD? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

So I've tried searching to the answer of this question for a couple days now, with no luck. I am currently running ANDROID 2.2 via NAND on my HTC HD2 with a 16GB SD Card. With that said I was wondering if there is any possible way to also boot another build of ANDROID via my SD CARD though MAGLDR?
I like having the stability of having the certain ROM i have now on my NAND, but I would like to try out other ROMS and just run them off the SD CARD. I tried partitioning the SD card with no luck. I try to boot the ROM on my SD CARD through MAGLDR but after a while it just reboots into my NAND ANDROID ROM.
Does anybody know how I can run ANDROID via NAND and another ANDROID build via SD CARD???

I believe I've seen this asked before and the answer was no its not possible. I'm really not 100% sure but I'm rather curious now. I will try to find the thread I seen the post in & report back.
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An easy run around would be to keep the roms you like most on your sd card & just flash them when you want a change. I keep 3 on my sd card for just that reason.
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Ive heard a lot of people running multiple android version with magldr..one on nand, the other ons are sd builds.
You can also have wp7 on nand and run a android sd build from sd.
Never tried a sd build on magldr, so cant say how to do that - using clk and the sd boot is just in comming -, just read some stickies with tutorials yourself...but its to 100% possible
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i use a nand android (sense eclipse) and two sd builds (american android and 3 dak's miui rom). if you look at sd android thread you can easily find sd builds supporting mgldr.to do that partitioning of sd is not necessary. the only trouble may be about sd-ext,since some applications may transpass from one rom to the other via sd-ext. so if you can disable using sd-ext for sd-roms you'll have no problem.

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[Q] Unable to Run Android from SD after installing MAGDLR

Ok so here is my issue,
I recently installed MAGDLR and got Stock Desire ROm running and everything is perfect until I found out that I am unable to run my android ROMS from the SD card!
From the MAGDLR bootloader, i press on boot android from SD = nothing happens.
I realized that maybe haret.exe needs 2 be on the SD card root. So i moved the files.
The bootloader detects the files and boots into Android from SD but then gets stuck at the custom bootloader image of the android ROMS
Tried different ROMS but in vain.
Eversince I installed MAGDLR, I am completely unable of running any ROM from SD.
Does anyone have the same issue or is it only me?
I feel there is a very simple thing I missed and I will feel like an idiot once I know lol.
Any suggestions? I really like testing different ROMS.
Me too, i tried the MIUI ROM from SD (normal rom version) and stucked at MIUI bootloader image.
byl233 said:
Me too, i tried the MIUI ROM from SD (normal rom version) and stucked at MIUI bootloader image.
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Did u move ur system files from folder "Android" to the root of the card like I did?
Or was haret.exe already in the root of ur card by default?
I am thinking that this file moving might have caused this
I'm not sure you need to move your files. You can actually configure the Android directory in magldr's settings.
I'm not sure current SD builds are that compatible with being launched from magldr, though. First thing I tried after installing magldr was launching my old m-deejay DesireHD build, but it would just freeze immediately after displaying "preparing sd-card".
meptik said:
I'm not sure you need to move your files. You can actually configure the Android directory in magldr's settings.
I'm not sure current SD builds are that compatible with being launched from magldr, though. First thing I tried after installing magldr was launching my old m-deejay DesireHD build, but it would just freeze immediately after displaying "preparing sd-card".
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ya seems like old SD android ROMS are not compatible with MAGDLR. I thought they would be
Does anyone know what we or the devs can do to resolve this? My builds on SD also freeze at preparing SD card.
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jimhaddon said:
Does anyone know what we or the devs can do to resolve this? My builds on SD also freeze at preparing SD card.
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AFAIK magdlr cant read the required settings over the startup.txt still, but it would, read the first post over the magdlr thread by cotulla, it would even load wm6.5 and wp7 builds over NAND! its a matter of time (and patience )
jimhaddon said:
Does anyone know what we or the devs can do to resolve this? My builds on SD also freeze at preparing SD card.
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Same here, I installed Mgrldr 1.11 in order to use MDJ nand hd superlight 2.2, but nand is today and at this point too..... Experimental !!!!! to be use daily.
I manage to load my "OLD !" SD Android, but it stucks on homescreen while charging SD card, very frustrating...

[Request]Dual boot WP7/Android NAND and Android SD (Only one working SD rom)

I'm making this thread here because I can't see anything being done to remedy this problem.
I have tried more than 5 roms that I have used in the past in SD era with MAGLDR 1.12 in the option "AD SD" and none worked. This SHOULD be easy, but it's not.
I have tried to change kernels for the new ones, thinking this would be the right way to do so, since the old ones expected haret and windows to work. This didn't work too.
To name a few...
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 from Tytung (the best in the old days for a clean froyo, IMHO)
MDJ Desire HD 4.6
Topia HD and others...
None of them worked, the ONLY ONE that worked was [DL DesireZ v2.1][SD/NAND] (note, not tested version 2.2, ONLY 2.1)
It took a looong time to boot, but worked fine.
Now that we have WP7 (not everyone will want this permanently) we should have SD roms that are compatible with MAGLDR. Even because MAGLDR is way faster than waiting for WM 6.5 to boot.
I loved WM 6.5 in the days, but now, several of us don't want to deal with it anymore, and are just here for the two new OSs.
I would like to see some development in the SD ROMs again, so they can have newer and better kernels (the ones used with MAGLDR) and full compatibility with future development for MAGLDR and NAND.
We could even have two Android builds, for those who don't want WP7.
One for NAND and one for SD, like a Gingerbread and a stabler Froyo
Anyone agree with it?
Greetings, Santroph.
santroph said:
I'm making this thread here because I can't see anything being done to remedy this problem.
I have tried more than 5 roms that I have used in the past in SD era with MAGLDR 1.12 in the option "AD SD" and none worked. This SHOULD be easy, but it's not.
I have tried to change kernels for the new ones, thinking this would be the right way to do so, since the old ones expected haret and windows to work. This didn't work too.
To name a few...
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 from Tytung (the best in the old days for a clean froyo, IMHO)
MDJ Desire HD 4.6
Topia HD and others...
None of them worked, the ONLY ONE that worked was [DL DesireZ v2.1][SD/NAND] (note, not tested version 2.2, ONLY 2.1)
It took a looong time to boot, but worked fine.
Now that we have WP7 (not everyone will want this permanently) we should have SD roms that are compatible with MAGLDR. Even because MAGLDR is way faster than waiting for WM 6.5 to boot.
I loved WM 6.5 in the days, but now, several of us don't want to deal with it anymore, and are just here for the two new OSs.
I would like to see some development in the SD ROMs again, so they can have newer and better kernels (the ones used with MAGLDR) and full compatibility with future development for MAGLDR and NAND.
We could even have two Android builds, for those who don't want WP7.
One for NAND and one for SD, like a Gingerbread and a stabler Froyo
Anyone agree with it?
Greetings, Santroph.
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Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
I agree with the suggestion of having dual boot (WP7/Android), in fact I even thought about it yesterday ...
What about having 3 partitions on SD ? 2 for WP7 and 1 for Android ...
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Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
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Yeah I know about this, but several of us, myself included have several SD cards.
I can pass for the trouble of changing SD cards from time to time to boot a completly different OS, with several other possibilities.
And I was talking about Android NAND / Android SD combinations as well.
Like I said we could have a Gingerbread experimental in nand, but keep a really stable Froyo in SD as our main build, or the other way around, a lot of us have big enough cards to do that.
Santroph.
I'm tested lot android SD too.
PSfreedom worked only but if the DL DesireZ v2.1 is working..what's the problem?
loyalhudy said:
I'm tested lot android SD too.
PSfreedom worked only but if the DL DesireZ v2.1 is working..what's the problem?
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The problem is that we only have a few SD roms working. And for example DL DesireZ v2.1 works, but DL DesireZ v2.2, which is newer and just lauched, doesn't work, the support is gone
And we don't have as much roms as we had to choose in the past. I am trying to use WP7, to see if it is a viable alternative to my daily use, but I don't want to give up Android. Since we can't have WP7 and AD Nand at the same time, SD is the only alternative, and we have to get whatever is working instead of a lot of good builds like we have in Nand now.
If the devs start to make more sd builds closer to the Nand ones (same kernels and modules, which they can do now, since they will all be using the same hardware startup MAGLDR) we would have a lot of alternatives too.
Like I said, one of the best roms we ever had, tytung NexusHD2 froyo, doesn't work.
Santroph.
P.S: I'm willing to help any dev that need help. I'm a developer too, but a software one, not a cooker
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
domenukk said:
Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
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I succeed to flash WP7 rom without SD card inserted. Inserting back the SD card after installation shows that SD storge with full size(not under WP7) and SD android rom (DL DesireZ v2.1) works fine with MAGLDR 1.12. Booting WP7 again will not destroy it, too. This may be a temporary method, while the free space left in WP7 becomes around 130MB which may not satisfy many demands .
was the WM7 functional?
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
I'm going to attempt those steps tomorrow, but I don't know if I'll be following them properly as the translation isn't too good.
But maybe someone else can understand it and translate it properly
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was the WM7 functional?
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fully functional. this method is like the one metioned above from DFT forum
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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in WP7 installation steps it is mentioned that if you remove the sd card the windows will be destroyed? can you please confirm that after trying android and going back to WP7 there are no issues?
I agree... we need more devs developing for sd android again.
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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This could be the best way to do things...
Can you please make a kind of Tutorial?
I understood what you said, and I can probably replicate it (surely will try) but some people would be really glad to have a tutorial.
I have a single problem with your approach, my biggest card, the 16gb one, was the one used for WP7, so I will have to reformat, and since I already got my WP7 working with marketplace and activated, I don't want to mess with it.
If I only had used the 8gb or 2gb card, I would be able to do it....
Santroph.
The best way to know how to do this, would be to have a HD2 that has not a fully working copy of WP7, so we can test it as much as we can.
The biggest problem for me now, is that I don't have how to make a backup of my WP7 installation, or else I would do it and make a tutorial on how to use the dual boot.
Even with the option of using only one card, the SD rom version must be compatible, which in the present time, they are not (most of them).
Santroph.
i've readed all of thread.. but yet i don't understand if it works or not.. especially with ike2903 tutorial to format SD card method...
santroph said:
This could be the best way to do things...
Can you please make a kind of Tutorial?
I understood what you said, and I can probably replicate it (surely will try) but some people would be really glad to have a tutorial.
I have a single problem with your approach, my biggest card, the 16gb one, was the one used for WP7, so I will have to reformat, and since I already got my WP7 working with marketplace and activated, I don't want to mess with it.
If I only had used the 8gb or 2gb card, I would be able to do it....
Santroph.
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Yes, Tutorial please Thanks
jenzy1985 said:
Yes, Tutorial please Thanks
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+1, been thinking of doing this and would be nice to follow your lead.
daysey said:
+1, been thinking of doing this and would be nice to follow your lead.
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+ 9!!!
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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the pc actually read the WP7 parition (or recognized that one existed)?

Dual Booting Two Different Android Builds

Like the title states, I'm looking to dual two different android builds on my TMOUS HD2. Just looking for clarifications and other tidbits I should watch out for.
After doing some research, I don't see why its not possible to boot android from SD through magldr. The only snag I really ran into was a disclaimer a dev mentioned, saying that nand kernals don't play well at all with SD based builds? Any other things I should look out for?
Another theoretical question I had: assuming you can boot both android builds from one device... can you use the same ext partition for both builds?
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Are you still wanting to keep windows mobile? If thats the case just throw two different builds on your sd card in different folders.
If you want to use magldr then pick any of the nand builds, and then choose an SD build and throw it on the sd card. I suggest a RAM build, they run faster.

(Q) help

Hey guys i have a tmous hd2... i have wp7 and android flashed in it(dualboot). I just want to know that if i want to upgrade wp7 or put any other android rom... how would it b done? M sorry if this has been discussed earlier... there are so many threads and i tried to look for the info but couldnt get it.. thanks
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Anyone who can help me here ...thanks
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u did it, go back to that thread and search for solution...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945565
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
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i don't understand exactly, you want to drop dual boot and go android only on nand or reinstall android in dualboot?
I do not use WP7 so I may be telling you wrong here or telling you to do a massive over kill here. But I would think if you want to change your WP7 ROM it would be best to run a Task 29 to fully wipe your NAND ROM partition. Then reflash MAGLDR as the Task 29 will wipe it from your HD2. Next do a full wipe and reformat of your SD card. Easiest way of doing that is put it in a SD card adaptor and stick it in a digital camera and format it as this will remove the funky format WP7 does on your SD card and then format it again with your computer using fat 32. This will give you a clean slate to install a new WP7 ROM. Take the needed steps to partition your SD card so you can run Android again and copy your SD Android build to the card and then put your SD card back in your HD2 and flash your WP7 ROM using USB Flasher in MAGLDR.
Hope this helps.

Android on NAND and also on SD?

Part of the beauty of having WP7 on NAND and Android on SD is that you can have as many Android ROMs as you can fit on your card and you can boot into any of them as you please. But say I want to install Android on NAND. Can I still be able to have that one Android ROM on NAND, but multiple other Android ROM's on SD?
Simple... If I want to be able to boot into more than one OS, must I have WP7 on NAND? If so, is there any guide for this? I cannot find one in the main sticky.
Good question, It would be good if you could switch and chang based on mood.
You can have Android on NAND and as many sd builds as you want, same as with WP7. Until my HD2 broke a few days ago, thats just what II did, a DHD build, a MIUI build, and a CM7 build on sd, with UD on NAND. Just have to choose your AD SD directory in magldr's 'services', and then boot AD SD.
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I do not think you can due to the fact that you have to run the HARET program. It only runs under Windows Mobile as Android does not run .EXE files.
Yes you definitely can. Check my sig
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I do not think you can due to the fact that you have to run the HARET program. It only runs under Windows Mobile as Android does not run .EXE files.
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Well, I saw several builds in the NAND Android forum that specify they support MAGLDR. No need for haret. Here's some of them: LeoRCMix, JW MIUI, HardDroid2. So I didn't think that was a limitation.
huggs said:
You can have Android on NAND and as many sd builds as you want, same as with WP7. Until my HD2 broke a few days ago, thats just what II did, a DHD build, a MIUI build, and a CM7 build on sd, with UD on NAND. Just have to choose your AD SD directory in magldr's 'services', and then boot AD SD.
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How do you partition your card for this setup? Is there a guide somewhere you can link here please? Or is it the same procedure you use to partition your card when you're running WP7 on NAND and Android on SD (which I've followed before)?
Any advise whether NAND build or SD build is better? In terms of performance I mean.
NAND builds will usually be faster.
As far as partitioning your card, with Android it's not necessary, you can do everything on a single Fat32 partition, unless you want to use A2SD then you'll want a single (primary) Fat32 and a single (primary) ext3 or ext4 partition for your apps/dalvik-cache. I recommend using DarkTremor's A2SD script with your NAND ROM, and if you use the DHD build in my sig, then it will automatically detect your ext3 and you'll automatically have the installed apps from your NAND on your sd build.
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sd android builds for magldr will work if you have another android in nand,but the kernel for sd build must not be a nand kernel.for example if you have a sense build in nand and you go to start from sd a build that has tytung r10 or rafpigna kernel the kernel will start but for some strange reason it will load the nand build and not the sd build.then if you go to settings you`ll see that the kernel is changed and you have error wifi because of different kernel modules.this at least happens to me,every time i tried to start a magldr sd build with another android in nand.at first times i thought that i was pushing wrong button on magldr
Great advise, guys. I'm going to play with this soon. Thank you!

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