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I am wondering that question as well..., how do you access the data/files on ya SD inside Android/NAND Android?
Well there's always file managing apps like Astro, but I'm not sure if it works that way, so, if someone could put kill our question!
Android is Linux based so there should be a similiar command to ls -a where you can see the files and be able to run SD Roms? Or I'm kinda hoping there is..., in SU maybe???
Thanks for the feedback bro, appreciate them.
We just need a response from actual experience; surely trying to run Android off SD wouldn't harm the device in any way.
I don't think we can boot an android build from an android build seeing as how clrcad and haret was build for winmo. >.> but looking at the magdlr notes, if i'm wrong, it has an option to boot android from SD or to boot from NAND, so guess that means you can have an android build in SD and NAND.
NEVER MIND... it failed the second time.
Yes but the build has to be built like a nand build. So you can't just boot the ones you have now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10202441&postcount=146
buzz killington said:
Yes but the build has to be built like a nand build. So you can't just boot the ones you have now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10202441&postcount=146
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I just tried..., I done what I would normally do for an SD Build and used the NAND boot menu to try to run the SD Build. Even though there is an option which says you can run from AD SD..., it doesn't happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10202441&postcount=146 <-- This makes sense ( no pun intended )
I understand that a Nand build on SD card will work the same as Nand build on phone, that makes perfect sense.
Question is, is the SD card memory used for application files or will it use up all the memory on my phone like Nand on phone does? Is it possible to use a data.img. Of course, the perfect solution would be to add the option in Magldr (Nand) to boot into recovery so the SD card could be partitioned for files and ext3 for extra application system files like we can with a normal Android phone. Then the need to add another Android rom onto the SD card just for extra storage would not be needed for us European users.
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Hi,
Interested to see if this is possible, Simply because MAGDLR 1.12 has the SD Android boot option BUT NAND flashing of WP7 rom does something ? to the SD card, pretty much leaving the SD card useless unless formatted back to Winmo/Android, BUT the second catch is, if the card is formatted back AFTER WP7 flash, WP7 on HD2, then WP7 doesn't work properly ... A catch 22. Anyway around this, or maybe something I'm missing ?
Working
I got both of them dual booting and working great so far...
1) Do an AD hard reset from MAGLDR boot menu
2) Flash windows nand rom (dont boot)
3)Boot into MAGLDR and connect as USB mass storage
4)Format SD card
5)Put an SD android build onto sd card
6)Go into services, bootsettings, set sd dir to android folder
7)I personally set it to show menu on boot so I could choose which one to boot
7)Reboot in MAGLDR and choose boot ad sd
8) Setup android
9) Reboot and choose WPH
10) setup WP7
Good LUCK!
What about using the SD card still? How much storage do you have when you boot into Android?
EDIT: I tried but when it boots into Android, the whole build is frozen
Jwatt0918 said:
I got both of them dual booting and working great so far...
1) Do an AD hard reset from MAGLDR boot menu
2) Flash windows nand rom (dont boot)
3)Boot into MAGLDR and connect as USB mass storage
4)Format SD card
5)Put an SD android build onto sd card
6)Go into services, bootsettings, set sd dir to android folder
7)I personally set it to show menu on boot so I could choose which one to boot
7)Reboot in MAGLDR and choose boot ad sd
8) Setup android
9) Reboot and choose WPH
10) setup WP7
Good LUCK!
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Dang It, I Read This AFTER Getting A Working Activation For WP7 :X
THANKS Jwatt For This Info !!! Looks Like Our HD2's Are Truly The Ultimate Phone ! WP7 AND Android !! WOOT !
let us know if same code will work or not.
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I haven't yet got activation code so I am giving this a try and will report back how it is. Will have to try and argue with MS later lol
TheArtiszan said:
let us know if same code will work or not.
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I'm Halfway Scared To Re-flash Now Though, If It Doesn't Work, I'm Without Live Services ... But If It Does, Then I Have Something Even Greater, Dual-booting WP7 AND Android ... The Dilemma :S
Jwatt0918 said:
I got both of them dual booting and working great so far...
1) Do an AD hard reset from MAGLDR boot menu
2) Flash windows nand rom (dont boot)
3)Boot into MAGLDR and connect as USB mass storage
4)Format SD card
5)Put an SD android build onto sd card
6)Go into services, bootsettings, set sd dir to android folder
7)I personally set it to show menu on boot so I could choose which one to boot
7)Reboot in MAGLDR and choose boot ad sd
8) Setup android
9) Reboot and choose WPH
10) setup WP7
Good LUCK!
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Correct me if I am wrong, but this leaves only internal storage for WP7. I have a telstra t9193 with 512 or so mb internal. Once it is synced with my exchange and emails, I can't even load a song from zune on my hd2 as there is no space left.
Guess the tmobile hd2 has more space left for apps etc.
I am trying to find a way to resize the wp7 sd card partition but this does not seem easy.
I need a dual partition for my sd card. One for wp7 and one for Android. Unfortunately wp7 seems to take all the sd card except for 200 mb which is too small for an android build.
If anyone has a solution, I would appreciate.
Thanks
It doesn't work. He's just lying.
I attempted those steps and and soon as you setup WP7, the Android folder is all gone.
You have 200mb space which isn't space for a proper Android build. Maybe if we find a hack to increase this size to at least 1 gig then we should be able to do it.
Psygnosis84 said:
It doesn't work. He's just lying.
I attempted those steps and and soon as you setup WP7, the Android folder is all gone.
You have 200mb space which isn't space for a proper Android build. Maybe if we find a hack to increase this size to at least 1 gig then we should be able to do it.
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That's what I got too. I even tried putting separate partitions on the sd card (ie. linux swap) to try to fool wp7 into deleting only the fat 32 one but it also did not work.
I have resulted to using 2 sd cards, one for wp7 and one for android. I have to make a holster for them so that I may swap them at will
EDIT: THE CURRENT SD ANDROID BUILDS DO NOT YET WORK WITH WP7 ON NAND - THEY LOAD BUT FREEZE AFTER THE LOCK SCREEN AND ALL YOU GET IS THE WHITE HTC SCREEN.
darrengladysz said:
EDIT: THE CURRENT SD ANDROID BUILDS DO NOT YET WORK WITH WP7 ON NAND - THEY LOAD BUT FREEZE AFTER THE LOCK SCREEN AND ALL YOU GET IS THE WHITE HTC SCREEN.
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Yeah only nand compatible sd card builds are work with magldr, the only problem is I dont think there are any...
darrengladysz said:
I have resulted to using 2 sd cards, one for wp7 and one for android. I have to make a holster for them so that I may swap them at will
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What works well for holding an extra sd card is to cut a microsd sized piece of foam out of the middle of the foam on the inside of the back cover. If you cut it right so it kinda hugs the sides of of the microsd, it will hold it in place well so you don't have to worry about it falling out when you take the back off.
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
Maybe someone wants to try this?
How can I boot into the MAGLDR Menu?
Everytime i reset my phone it goes to WP7?
Edit: Never mind
Long Power Hold
James_Caliber said:
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
Maybe someone wants to try this?
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It pretty much says never use the sd card with wp7 in the first place, however then it can never be used giving very little storage. Also I don't believe that there are any magldr compatible sd builds on xda, though I could be wrong...
Im booting up WP7 without the need for SD card.. Everythings seems working like normal..
And no partition on my SD card.. (My SD card is still clean but still can run..)
Uhh.... Is this normal....? Does this mean I can just copy DL's 2.2 SD Android onto my SD card?
wp7 and android
hi guys if you create two partitions on a 16gb sd card you will have two cards one for wp7 and one for android
how come it says that we need an sd card to run WP7 but you guys says ur running it on the same device with no problems without one. If that was the case then whats with all the insturctions on partitions and things. Also how do you run a Android sd rom from MAGLDR so that I canrun Android on my sd and WP7 On NAND. Thanks
darrengladysz said:
That's what I got too. I even tried putting separate partitions on the sd card (ie. linux swap) to try to fool wp7 into deleting only the fat 32 one but it also did not work.
I have resulted to using 2 sd cards, one for wp7 and one for android. I have to make a holster for them so that I may swap them at will
EDIT: THE CURRENT SD ANDROID BUILDS DO NOT YET WORK WITH WP7 ON NAND - THEY LOAD BUT FREEZE AFTER THE LOCK SCREEN AND ALL YOU GET IS THE WHITE HTC SCREEN.
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genesis123 said:
Yeah only nand compatible sd card builds are work with magldr, the only problem is I dont think there are any...
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For those who happened to read this post , maybe this could be ur solution?
I personally have tried it with 2 sd cards, It worked flawlessly. I might be getting a 16gb to combine 2 os in 1 card later on. But for now, this methods works best for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913964
I used this method and it worked for me...
http://www.techienote.com/2011/01/dual-boot-htc-hd2-leo.html
Dual booting WP7 and Android SD now.
Guys Iam dual booting wp7(nand) and mdj desirehd 4.6 (SD) with a 16 gb class 4 card.....8 gb for each partition. Go to android SD development section and read the stickies. It sounds difficult but is very simple. Enjoy
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I'm making this thread here because I can't see anything being done to remedy this problem.
I have tried more than 5 roms that I have used in the past in SD era with MAGLDR 1.12 in the option "AD SD" and none worked. This SHOULD be easy, but it's not.
I have tried to change kernels for the new ones, thinking this would be the right way to do so, since the old ones expected haret and windows to work. This didn't work too.
To name a few...
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 from Tytung (the best in the old days for a clean froyo, IMHO)
MDJ Desire HD 4.6
Topia HD and others...
None of them worked, the ONLY ONE that worked was [DL DesireZ v2.1][SD/NAND] (note, not tested version 2.2, ONLY 2.1)
It took a looong time to boot, but worked fine.
Now that we have WP7 (not everyone will want this permanently) we should have SD roms that are compatible with MAGLDR. Even because MAGLDR is way faster than waiting for WM 6.5 to boot.
I loved WM 6.5 in the days, but now, several of us don't want to deal with it anymore, and are just here for the two new OSs.
I would like to see some development in the SD ROMs again, so they can have newer and better kernels (the ones used with MAGLDR) and full compatibility with future development for MAGLDR and NAND.
We could even have two Android builds, for those who don't want WP7.
One for NAND and one for SD, like a Gingerbread and a stabler Froyo
Anyone agree with it?
Greetings, Santroph.
santroph said:
I'm making this thread here because I can't see anything being done to remedy this problem.
I have tried more than 5 roms that I have used in the past in SD era with MAGLDR 1.12 in the option "AD SD" and none worked. This SHOULD be easy, but it's not.
I have tried to change kernels for the new ones, thinking this would be the right way to do so, since the old ones expected haret and windows to work. This didn't work too.
To name a few...
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.8 from Tytung (the best in the old days for a clean froyo, IMHO)
MDJ Desire HD 4.6
Topia HD and others...
None of them worked, the ONLY ONE that worked was [DL DesireZ v2.1][SD/NAND] (note, not tested version 2.2, ONLY 2.1)
It took a looong time to boot, but worked fine.
Now that we have WP7 (not everyone will want this permanently) we should have SD roms that are compatible with MAGLDR. Even because MAGLDR is way faster than waiting for WM 6.5 to boot.
I loved WM 6.5 in the days, but now, several of us don't want to deal with it anymore, and are just here for the two new OSs.
I would like to see some development in the SD ROMs again, so they can have newer and better kernels (the ones used with MAGLDR) and full compatibility with future development for MAGLDR and NAND.
We could even have two Android builds, for those who don't want WP7.
One for NAND and one for SD, like a Gingerbread and a stabler Froyo
Anyone agree with it?
Greetings, Santroph.
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Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
I agree with the suggestion of having dual boot (WP7/Android), in fact I even thought about it yesterday ...
What about having 3 partitions on SD ? 2 for WP7 and 1 for Android ...
domenukk said:
Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
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Yeah I know about this, but several of us, myself included have several SD cards.
I can pass for the trouble of changing SD cards from time to time to boot a completly different OS, with several other possibilities.
And I was talking about Android NAND / Android SD combinations as well.
Like I said we could have a Gingerbread experimental in nand, but keep a really stable Froyo in SD as our main build, or the other way around, a lot of us have big enough cards to do that.
Santroph.
I'm tested lot android SD too.
PSfreedom worked only but if the DL DesireZ v2.1 is working..what's the problem?
loyalhudy said:
I'm tested lot android SD too.
PSfreedom worked only but if the DL DesireZ v2.1 is working..what's the problem?
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The problem is that we only have a few SD roms working. And for example DL DesireZ v2.1 works, but DL DesireZ v2.2, which is newer and just lauched, doesn't work, the support is gone
And we don't have as much roms as we had to choose in the past. I am trying to use WP7, to see if it is a viable alternative to my daily use, but I don't want to give up Android. Since we can't have WP7 and AD Nand at the same time, SD is the only alternative, and we have to get whatever is working instead of a lot of good builds like we have in Nand now.
If the devs start to make more sd builds closer to the Nand ones (same kernels and modules, which they can do now, since they will all be using the same hardware startup MAGLDR) we would have a lot of alternatives too.
Like I said, one of the best roms we ever had, tytung NexusHD2 froyo, doesn't work.
Santroph.
P.S: I'm willing to help any dev that need help. I'm a developer too, but a software one, not a cooker
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
domenukk said:
Problem:
Phone7 formats the sd card in an unknown file format.
That makes it presumably impossible to linux to load from there...
You would have to switch sd card
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I succeed to flash WP7 rom without SD card inserted. Inserting back the SD card after installation shows that SD storge with full size(not under WP7) and SD android rom (DL DesireZ v2.1) works fine with MAGLDR 1.12. Booting WP7 again will not destroy it, too. This may be a temporary method, while the free space left in WP7 becomes around 130MB which may not satisfy many demands .
was the WM7 functional?
http://www.darkforcesteam.com.cn/thread-25910-1-1.html
I'm going to attempt those steps tomorrow, but I don't know if I'll be following them properly as the translation isn't too good.
But maybe someone else can understand it and translate it properly
jcsy said:
was the WM7 functional?
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fully functional. this method is like the one metioned above from DFT forum
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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in WP7 installation steps it is mentioned that if you remove the sd card the windows will be destroyed? can you please confirm that after trying android and going back to WP7 there are no issues?
I agree... we need more devs developing for sd android again.
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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This could be the best way to do things...
Can you please make a kind of Tutorial?
I understood what you said, and I can probably replicate it (surely will try) but some people would be really glad to have a tutorial.
I have a single problem with your approach, my biggest card, the 16gb one, was the one used for WP7, so I will have to reformat, and since I already got my WP7 working with marketplace and activated, I don't want to mess with it.
If I only had used the 8gb or 2gb card, I would be able to do it....
Santroph.
The best way to know how to do this, would be to have a HD2 that has not a fully working copy of WP7, so we can test it as much as we can.
The biggest problem for me now, is that I don't have how to make a backup of my WP7 installation, or else I would do it and make a tutorial on how to use the dual boot.
Even with the option of using only one card, the SD rom version must be compatible, which in the present time, they are not (most of them).
Santroph.
i've readed all of thread.. but yet i don't understand if it works or not.. especially with ike2903 tutorial to format SD card method...
santroph said:
This could be the best way to do things...
Can you please make a kind of Tutorial?
I understood what you said, and I can probably replicate it (surely will try) but some people would be really glad to have a tutorial.
I have a single problem with your approach, my biggest card, the 16gb one, was the one used for WP7, so I will have to reformat, and since I already got my WP7 working with marketplace and activated, I don't want to mess with it.
If I only had used the 8gb or 2gb card, I would be able to do it....
Santroph.
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Yes, Tutorial please Thanks
jenzy1985 said:
Yes, Tutorial please Thanks
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+1, been thinking of doing this and would be nice to follow your lead.
daysey said:
+1, been thinking of doing this and would be nice to follow your lead.
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+ 9!!!
ike2903 said:
I'm not a dev but I try to get it ...I took 4GB sd and booted wp7, connect sd via usb reader to pc, copied the wp7 filesystem to my 16gb sd card...wp7 says I got 3.5GB disk space ^^...means: wp7 uses 3.5GB, 11,5GB free sd space . formatted other partition as fat32, but windows7 didn't find it. Now I'm trying around to get it working ...will post news
EDIT: WP7 got 3.5GB disk space, now booting MDJ Froyo HD 4.6 from sd card ...So I got WP7/ Android dualboot
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the pc actually read the WP7 parition (or recognized that one existed)?
Part of the beauty of having WP7 on NAND and Android on SD is that you can have as many Android ROMs as you can fit on your card and you can boot into any of them as you please. But say I want to install Android on NAND. Can I still be able to have that one Android ROM on NAND, but multiple other Android ROM's on SD?
Simple... If I want to be able to boot into more than one OS, must I have WP7 on NAND? If so, is there any guide for this? I cannot find one in the main sticky.
Good question, It would be good if you could switch and chang based on mood.
You can have Android on NAND and as many sd builds as you want, same as with WP7. Until my HD2 broke a few days ago, thats just what II did, a DHD build, a MIUI build, and a CM7 build on sd, with UD on NAND. Just have to choose your AD SD directory in magldr's 'services', and then boot AD SD.
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I do not think you can due to the fact that you have to run the HARET program. It only runs under Windows Mobile as Android does not run .EXE files.
Yes you definitely can. Check my sig
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how_weird said:
I do not think you can due to the fact that you have to run the HARET program. It only runs under Windows Mobile as Android does not run .EXE files.
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Well, I saw several builds in the NAND Android forum that specify they support MAGLDR. No need for haret. Here's some of them: LeoRCMix, JW MIUI, HardDroid2. So I didn't think that was a limitation.
huggs said:
You can have Android on NAND and as many sd builds as you want, same as with WP7. Until my HD2 broke a few days ago, thats just what II did, a DHD build, a MIUI build, and a CM7 build on sd, with UD on NAND. Just have to choose your AD SD directory in magldr's 'services', and then boot AD SD.
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How do you partition your card for this setup? Is there a guide somewhere you can link here please? Or is it the same procedure you use to partition your card when you're running WP7 on NAND and Android on SD (which I've followed before)?
Any advise whether NAND build or SD build is better? In terms of performance I mean.
NAND builds will usually be faster.
As far as partitioning your card, with Android it's not necessary, you can do everything on a single Fat32 partition, unless you want to use A2SD then you'll want a single (primary) Fat32 and a single (primary) ext3 or ext4 partition for your apps/dalvik-cache. I recommend using DarkTremor's A2SD script with your NAND ROM, and if you use the DHD build in my sig, then it will automatically detect your ext3 and you'll automatically have the installed apps from your NAND on your sd build.
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sd android builds for magldr will work if you have another android in nand,but the kernel for sd build must not be a nand kernel.for example if you have a sense build in nand and you go to start from sd a build that has tytung r10 or rafpigna kernel the kernel will start but for some strange reason it will load the nand build and not the sd build.then if you go to settings you`ll see that the kernel is changed and you have error wifi because of different kernel modules.this at least happens to me,every time i tried to start a magldr sd build with another android in nand.at first times i thought that i was pushing wrong button on magldr
Great advise, guys. I'm going to play with this soon. Thank you!
Is it possible? I could only find threads about 6.5 from nand and android from sd, but i was thinking it should be possible to fit both to nand, and then use data2sd to send android apps and data to sd card, and install all wm apps to the sd card as well.
award982 said:
Is it possible? I could only find threads about 6.5 from nand and android from sd, but i was thinking it should be possible to fit both to nand, and then use data2sd to send android apps and data to sd card, and install all wm apps to the sd card as well.
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Yes you can dual boot WP7 and Android, but on WP7 can be inn NAND. You have to run Android from SD card. This is the only way you can dual boot both OS's. Also you can not use apps to SD with WP7 like you can with Android. For one thing WP7 does not support removable storage at all, and two WP7 actually uses the SD card in the HD2 for the internal storage.
i know i can run wp7 and android -___- i am talking about running windows mobile 6.5 and android, both on nand, you must have misread my post
award982 said:
i know i can run wp7 and android -___- i am talking about running windows mobile 6.5 and android, both on nand, you must have misread my post
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Sorry about that I did miss read it, actually when I read it last night your thread was right under a thread asking about dual booting WP7 and Android plus I had been up all night working on a bootanimation, must have been seeing double lol.....
Anyway though the answer is still the same pretty much. You can run Win Mo from NAND and boot Android from SD card. You can either do it the old fashion way by using the file explorer to open CLCAD and HARET, or you can install a dual boot app in Win Mo to do it with just. Do some googl searching and you will find several apps for this. Just so you know though you can only boot one OS from NAND no matter what OS that is.