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Well the vibrant plus had been announced.
- T-mo's 4G
- FFC
- Froyo
and more I'm sure.
So maybe the Nexus S2 rumors are true.
I have a feeling Samsung is pushing updated phones too quick. At least wait a year.
I further explain myself here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10540297&postcount=15
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That was a rumor, already dismissed.
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There's not much they can actually add other than an SD slot 4g and maybe the new samoled plus. if I was a vibrant owner I'd be extremely pissed to hear about this though. Its not right to do customers like that but they don't care they just see the $$$$
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That was a rumor, already dismissed.
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Well in that case never mind lol
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If they do that ill go rage mode
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Didn't realize it was dismissed already.
But I guess the only thing keeping the from releasing another nexus would be Google. Unless Google felt the need to have a larger format dev phone like 4.3" screen, bring back HD video recording and possibly add a dual core processor.
Don't forget google already announced ice cream for this summer and the gingerbread isn't stale yet!
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here's the link to Vibrant 4G http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-vibrant-plus-will-offer-21-mbps-4g-speeds/ for anybody interested
Well its gonna run Touchwiz and Froyo. Samsung will probably take forever to update it to gingerbread. That's enough to keep me away. I could care less about 4g Since I never see those speeds
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Dont think this will happen to us, the Nexus S is not a feature phone
I'm sorry, but anyone who buys a Samsung-supported phone at this point deserves what they will inevitably get.
The Behold II and Galaxy S fiascos should be ample warning: Samsung will NOT support the software on a phone it releases in the USA. The Vibrant 4G will release with Froyo, and will reach end-of-life with Froyo, except for custom ROMS.
Kill TouchWiz already!
Is it really Samsung, or is it Tmobile that delays the updates; or a combination of both?
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here's the link to Vibrant 4G http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-vibrant-plus-will-offer-21-mbps-4g-speeds/ for anybody interested
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I like the fact that the new Vibrant Plus has a 1650mAH battery and 4g
This is why you ALWAYS buy phones with the idea that it will be left for dead by the manufacturer as soon as you buy it (unless of course you have a Nexus )
Couldn't imagine how crappy old Vibrant owners who signed 2-year contracts must feel since most people imagine they will have their phone be relevant for at least a year but it's already a "dinosaur" in their eyes in a little less than 6 months
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I have a feeling Samsung is pushing updated phones too quick. At least wait a year.
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A year is a VERY long time in the smartphone ecosystem, unless you're in a closed system like the iPhone with only yourself to compete with.
I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
A lot of Vibrant owners pissed off because of this, but I'm not going to fault Samsung for releasing what's a pretty major upgrade (true HSPA+ and FFC) 6-10 months after the SGS line came out.
Adding SAMOLED Plus would have made it less upsetting to most, I suspect.
I won't give Sammy a pass on the lack of Froyo progress on US model Galaxy S phones, though. They obviously have it (i9000 does, as does this); but is it possible their carrier partners are the problem here?
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Couldn't imagine how crappy old Vibrant owners who signed 2-year contracts must feel since most people imagine they will have their phone be relevant for at least a year but it's already a "dinosaur" in their eyes in a little less than 6 months
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Seriously?
C'mon, the Vibrant is still "relevant" and anything but a "dinosaur". It's still got one of the best screen technologies out there, a damn good GPU and CPU, 16gb internal and external sd cards, supports 7.2Mbs. Most non-XDA-member types will still love that phone for quite some time to come.
My point in all of this was Samsung denied that they were making a nexus 2 phone up until two weeks before release and dropped that they are making the nexus s; very clever.
Just like there were early rumors of vibrant plus and those were dismissed then at the end of CES it is announced.
So there have been rumors of a nexus s2 and I guess those have been dismissed as well unless they are are going to drop 2 weeks before google's release of "ice cream" a nexus s "plus". Speculative, I know but it fits the MO of Samsung and Google - short ly (apx 6mos.) after the mytouch was made into a dev phone the nexus one was announced with android 2.2. Maybe with the rapid rise of dual core phones and larger screens; google and samsung will want a dev phone this summer that will provide these options (dual core and larger screen) for devs to design HQ games and apps on. Because lets face it Apple iOS is one up on android because the quality games and that is it. Sony is releasing this year a PSP android gaming phone so I can only imagine google wanting their dev phones to start computing in that area as well.
G1 dev phone released Dec 2008
Mytouch "magic" ion dev released phone Aug 2009
(6 months span)
Nexus One dev phone released Jan 2010
Nexus S dev phone released Dec 2010
( ~ 6 months span)
Nexus S "plus" maybe in June/July 2011? marketing wise would take some steam out of apple's typical iphone release date.
Can't deny that there is some indicators of a possible marketing pattern.
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Seriously?
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Yes... Seriously
ap3604 said:
Yes... Seriously
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Someone needs a reality check...
EVERY phone you buy is irrelevant within a matter of months, if not weeks by the standards you seem to be applying.
I would never buy a Touchwiz phone. Ever. Straight garbage.
Stock or HTC Sense. That's it. Everything else sucks, IMO.
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I would never buy a Touchwiz phone. Ever. Straight garbage.
Stock or HTC Sense. That's it. Everything else sucks, IMO.
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Nexus S is not a touchwiz phone. The primary reason of thread was to create a discussion whether or not people saw the viability of another nexus product releasing in 6 mos.
If interested please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10540297&postcount=15
The way i see it, is they will NOT do this to the Nexus S, there isnt enough profit in it for them
Okay I have a post on the market place but with no luck so I thought id bring it over here to my friends
Bid on it send me a pm. Looking for cash offers because im going to get the iphone 4 for vz.
Ya ya im getting the iphone let me hear it lol....
Also have a fascinate for sale also.
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$100 sold. Lol
As u can see I never got around to changing my att carrier avatar I use to have a iPhone. Nothen wrong with them if u plan on jailbreaking it if not prepared to be bored. Jailbreaking makes the phone pretty phone. Would never leave my Droid for it though.
Lol ill have to pass on that
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Done with the DX
I'll Slap $ 50.00 bucks on the table new for $ 149.99, about 5 or 6 mo neither Motorola Or Verizon could beyond. I WILL " Franken-phone " the 4.3" Boot the thing a dozen times to re possible. Get back to me & I'll see that peop Verbatim.
Dr X.
you won't be uber-happy with the iPhone 4- I have both (DroidX for persoanl, iPhone 4 for work) and the only thing good about the iPhone is the games- and the camera.
They haven't released an untethered Jailbreak for 4.2.1, which is a PITA if you jailbreak and need to reboot your phone.
Besides- the iPhone 5 will probably be released in September.
i'd wait for the new iPhone coming out June/July.
rumor mill says it will sport a dual core processor, with a much faster graphics processor (SGX543MP2) from Imagination Technologies.
Eh idk tho lol kinda want a 4 now
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how much for the fascinate?
Thinking 350+ shipping
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well i will bid $50 shipping included. its always nice to have a backup. As for ditching the dx for an iphone: i dont know quite why any thought like that would even come through your mind. Not saying the dx is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but an iphone? do you really want to be restricted like that in customization by the cell phone nazi steve jobs? well, its your choice...
most ppl upgrade not downgrade their fones...my ipod touch does everything that the iphone does..aside from being a good looking phone I've never been intrigued by the iphone
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I had an iPhone for 2 years, then I switched to Android, after the iPhone 4 came out I thought I was missing something. So, I went back to iPhone, it was a big mistake. I was missing Android almost instantly and I returned the iPhone the next day. I will never go back to iPhone. At least you will have a small bit of time to test the iPhone out, and if you dont like it you can return it, (I think you will be).
Verizon is offering a deal to buy back your smartphone bought during or after November with a $200 Visa gift card if you will purchase an iPhone at full retail.
That said, even though that seems like a bad deal still to me, it looks like the low ballers here could stand to be more generous.
I am currently tryign to decide which Droid to get, the Driod X or the Droid 2 Global. I cant make up my mind which one I like more. I am not waiting for the Droid Bionic in hopes the Droid X and Droid 2 will have the same life as the Droid 1.
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I am currently tryign to decide which Droid to get, the Driod X or the Droid 2 Global. I cant make up my mind which one I like more. I am not waiting for the Droid Bionic in hopes the Droid X and Droid 2 will have the same life as the Droid 1.
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Unless some serious bootloader work is done, it isn't looking like it.
I would get the bionic if I didn't already have my X.
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most ppl upgrade not downgrade their fones...my ipod touch does everything that the iphone does..aside from being a good looking phone I've never been intrigued by the iphone
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Hey +1 on that lol got an iPod touch for music only lol besides iPhone 4 isn't LTE
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Not worried about lte lol
Just a front camera for video chats with my wife while I'm deployed.
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The only good that can come from the i[diot]Phone on verizon is the removal of people incapable of comprehending the android experience (how they get thru life is another tangent) & the more conceivable outcome: a potential price war. The likes of which can only hope to benefit users with more inexpensive phones & possibly better price points on things such as net fees. But not to get hopes up or anything, big business begets greedy MFs. Maybe they'll just continue to price fix...
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are we still bidding?
Well, I FINALLY ditched my Heroc and bought a NS4g on sunday and I'm in love (aside from battery life :-/). Now I've been reading up on the Photon and holy crap! HW wise, it's freakin killer.
But...
I'm concerned about not having root for god knows how long (or CM7), the screen not looking as good as the NS and the camera not being as good. Am I being paranoid?
Looking for opinions and info on this.
ZANKS!
It'll probably be rooted release day. As far as CM7, not sure if you've heard of second init but its a way of running aosp over motos locked in kernels/bootloaders. The Droid X and Droid 2 now have CM7 thanks to second init. Its just a matter of whether a Dev takes the time to make it happen. Can't count on moto to unlock it so hacking will be the way.
Spec wise, the photon will be a beast. It has a pentile screen but its still very nice. If you want to get a feel for what the photon will be like, go to best buy and mess with an atrix. Almost same specs.
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eh its not all its hyped up to be.. read some stuff about the tegra 2, my buddy has the atrix and its not this crazy super faster dual core
what kind of ram? ddr2?
Thanks for the input folks. Mikeyinid, I was unaware of second init but it sounds promising. IDK, I might just pick it up and try it out for ~2 weeks (I'm only gonna be 2 weeks in to my 30 days when it comes out). Also, I was told by sprint that you can cancel your plan, get a 100% refund and start a new plan to restart the 30 days the same day . So, I am gonna at least give it a shot...
Also, anyone have any suggestions about battery life? I wasn't happy with the batterytweak.sh and juice defender didn't really help that much. Wanted to work on UV but proton caused a reboot and setcpu doesn't have recommended settings.
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Thanks for the input folks. Mikeyinid, I was unaware of second init but it sounds promising. IDK, I might just pick it up and try it out for ~2 weeks (I'm only gonna be 2 weeks in to my 30 days when it comes out). Also, I was told by sprint that you can cancel your plan, get a 100% refund and start a new plan to restart the 30 days the same day . So, I am gonna at least give it a shot...
Also, anyone have any suggestions about battery life? I wasn't happy with the batterytweak.sh and juice defender didn't really help that much. Wanted to work on UV but proton caused a reboot and setcpu doesn't have recommended settings.
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Motorola has great build quality, but as stated already in this thread the tegra 2 is pretty bad. If you like the nexus, you should consider waiting for the samsung gs2 coming sometime later. (rumored for late August/early September for Sprint. It should have either the exynos could or the Mali gpu, both of which blown away the tegra 2. I'm holding out for that because it fully meets my requirements.
- dual core
- hdmi out
- super amoled plus
- best camera for phone on market
- comes with gingerbread
- (most likely) unlocked on release day.
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Motorola has great build quality, but as stated already in this thread the tegra 2 is pretty bad. If you like the nexus, you should consider waiting for the samsung gs2 coming sometime later. (rumored for late August/early September for Sprint. It should have either the exynos could or the Mali gpu, both of which blown away the tegra 2. I'm holding out for that because it fully meets my requirements.
- dual core
- hdmi out
- super amoled plus
- best camera for phone on market
- comes with gingerbread
- (most likely) unlocked on release day.
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If we're going to play the waiting game then you might as well wait for the Nexus 3. Dual cores don't mean anything if the phone's software OS isn't optimized to use dual core.
Ice Cream Sandwich + Nexus 3 = ?????????????
Ice Cream Sandwich + Nexus S = ?????????????
Good luck waiting on a carrier/manufacturer for updates. Knowing carriers playing the cat and mouse game with the manufacturers with Samsung. Oh boy you're going to regret it.
As far as Motorola.. lolilockyourbootloader
Nexus series for life. Never accepting anything less.
zephiK said:
If we're going to play the waiting game then you might as well wait for the Nexus 3. Dual cores don't mean anything if the phone's software OS isn't optimized to use dual core.
Ice Cream Sandwich + Nexus 3 = ?????????????
Ice Cream Sandwich + Nexus S = ?????????????
Good luck waiting on a carrier/manufacturer for updates. Knowing carriers playing the cat and mouse game with the manufacturers with Samsung. Oh boy you're going to regret it.
As far as Motorola.. lolilockyourbootloader
Nexus series for life. Never accepting anything less.
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I don't see the Nexus Prime coming out anytime soon, seeing as the Nexus S is heading towards AT&T. One can hope, but it just seems like the SGS2 is a better choice purely dependent on the release date. (within the next two months).
Do I don't know what they changed in cm7, but my battery life id amazing now. 10 hours and @ 72%.
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Thanks for the input folks. Mikeyinid, I was unaware of second init but it sounds promising. IDK, I might just pick it up and try it out for ~2 weeks (I'm only gonna be 2 weeks in to my 30 days when it comes out). Also, I was told by sprint that you can cancel your plan, get a 100% refund and start a new plan to restart the 30 days the same day . So, I am gonna at least give it a shot...
Also, anyone have any suggestions about battery life? I wasn't happy with the batterytweak.sh and juice defender didn't really help that much. Wanted to work on UV but proton caused a reboot and setcpu doesn't have recommended settings.
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This is only partly true. If you choose to return your phone, they will hit you with a restocking fee
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Good luck waiting on a carrier/manufacturer for updates. Knowing carriers playing the cat and mouse game with the manufacturers with Samsung. Oh boy you're going to regret it.
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^^ THIS.. Never buying a non Nexus phone again. Poor Epic owners were supposed to have Gingerbread months and months ago. To this day they have no official release builds but just constantly get conveniently leaked development builds of Gingerbread instead. The Froyo release for the Epic was ridiculously late by months and months. The snails pace and constant ridiculously long delays of promised updates drove me away from phones that depended on Samsung to update them.
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I don't see the Nexus Prime coming out anytime soon, seeing as the Nexus S is heading towards AT&T. One can hope, but it just seems like the SGS2 is a better choice purely dependent on the release date. (within the next two months).
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Who ever said Nexus prime? This is all rumors. But it will be guaranteed by later this year during the holiday season there will be a flagship phone for Ice Cream Sandwich by Google.
This is following Google's timeline for when a new Nexus device comes out. It's a fact. It could be,
Nexus Prime
Nexus S2
... and the list goes on.
Who knows? The one thing thats absolute is definitely a new Nexus phone coming out later this year.
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Who ever said Nexus prime? This is all rumors. But it will be guaranteed by later this year during the holiday season there will be a flagship phone for Ice Cream Sandwich by Google.
This is following Google's timeline for when a new Nexus device comes out. It's a fact. It could be,
Nexus Prime
Nexus S2
... and the list goes on.
Who knows? The one thing thats absolute is definitely a new Nexus phone coming out later this year.
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If thats the case then I'll hold out too lol.
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If thats the case then I'll hold out too lol.
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I mean don't get me wrong. You have a excellent point about the Samsung Galaxy S2, it looks amazing in terms of hardware. But I think what's really going to cripple it is software updates. Samsung is really good with updates internationally in Europe but I don't know if it's Samsung Mobile USA or if its the carriers. And honestly, I really don't care what the deal is between them two but I want my updates asap.
Nexus One released on January 5,2010.
Nexus S released on December 16, 2010.
Google likes to have a flagship phone for their newest Android OS. It'll most likely be Nexus 3 that gets it first followed by Nexus S and then followed by Nexus One (if it's that lucky but I have good hopes that it will get it.. probably)
And yeah, I know.. people may try and counter me by saying Oh we have CyanogenMod and all that. Well guess what Cyanogenmod can't do. Make a kernel for for that Android X and you're stuck using stock or whatever the deal is. Development will be very limited. And I had a Samsung vibrant and honestly... there are a lot more ROMs for vibrant than Nexus S I'll admit that. But under the hood, they're all the same and mainly built off TouchWiz. That's my interpretation of the Vibrant forums 7 months ago. I don't know how it is today but most of the ROMs are just themed. Nothing is really ever implemented as features.
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This is only partly true. If you choose to return your phone, they will hit you with a restocking fee
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When I returned the Evo 3D, the store charged me $35 for restocking fee. Later I chatted with a rep online and she told me there's no restocking fee if you are not exchanging the phone but completely returning it.
I emailed Sprint a copy of the restocking fee receipt and $35 was credited to my Sprint account (only reason I had to do that was b/c the store charged my credit card the fee and did not put it on my account).
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Who ever said Nexus prime? This is all rumors. But it will be guaranteed by later this year during the holiday season there will be a flagship phone for Ice Cream Sandwich by Google.
This is following Google's timeline for when a new Nexus device comes out. It's a fact. It could be,
Nexus Prime
Nexus S2
... and the list goes on.
Who knows? The one thing thats absolute is definitely a new Nexus phone coming out later this year.
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what is about Nexus 3D D would love something REALLY new! like nfc, but more usefull!
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what is about Nexus 3D D would love something REALLY new! like nfc, but more usefull!
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Oh no you didn't. 3D is so useless
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If you have a new Nexus-S, be happy with that awesome phone. Just wait for the king of all phones to release in Oct/Nov. The Nexus-4.0 Prime, that will blow away the Photon.
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The ONLY reason I'm considering this is because i'm within my 30 days. I can't afford to shell out $700 for another phone in 6 months, so this is a good opportunity for me to have "the latest and greatest" (arguably)
At least you don't have to hack it in order to play tegra2 games lol. I wish it had the1900 mah battery like the atrix...
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Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
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Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
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Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Well I guess it really depends on where you are. USA is Q3.
Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM are Eval and planning.
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Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Uuh... i think you're looking a little too far south on that list. The one YOU'RE looking at says:
ATRIX / ATRIX 4G MB860/MB861/ME860
Asia Pacific, EMEA, and LATAM
Evaluation & Planning
Further details to follow
Look a little further up the list, and you see:
Atrix 4G MB860
USA
Development
Rollouts begin Q3 2012
So i guess it's already in development for the US market, but still planning for other locale's. Guess it doesn't really matter anyhow... i'm sure we'll have a much nicer version of CM9 LONG before Motorola gets around to making an effort.
Looks like I will continue to use the atrix for a long time! Which is great because the new moto devices wont work with my docks.
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I'll still be using and doing work on mine
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Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I will ^_^
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Ok well that's 2 people.
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Ok well that's 2 people.
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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Not to mention that it helps resell value a little bit for those who will be unloading their phones. Selling a Gingerbread phone when ICS is widespread would be a much tougher sell.
this is awesome, im stoked!!! I hope they fix the fingerprint stuff and fix the battery....get me some JUICE!!!!
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Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I agree. By the time Q3 kicks in, Quad core phones would be rolling out. Also, remember the Milestone debacle in regards to the Gingerbread roll out which was pushed further and further away. By the time it was released, the update was crap and slowed pretty much the phone down. I sold mine a few months prior to the GB update.
MOD/ROM Devs will either take another 2-4 extra months of tweaking or move on to better things. When Atrix was newly released it took around a few months for a decent ROM to come out. Another few months right after the bootloader was unlocked. Plus, it still depends on HOW MANY Devs will be producing Roms by then.
Understand also that, there are some Atrix owners that are wary of modding their phone. An average Joe wouldnt want to mess with it.
We are only but a handful of modders that are willing to take a leap of faith in phone customization. I got coworkers who own Android phones and are NOT interested in regards to roms/mods.
Currently, im in a dilemma of either switching to a Gnex or wait for the Quad. Only time will tell....
There are some other countries in the world except USA and Canada And in many of them carriers do not subsidize phones and even don't have contracts with fixed monthly payments. For example, I may pay nothing for several months if I only use wifi and accept incoming calls.
So I don't have a reason to buy something else. I think I will do it when a phone 4 cores, 2gb ram, micro sd slot, changeable battery, HDMI, NFC, LTE, unlockable bootloader appears. I don't believe this kind of phone with fully working CM7/9 will appear in Q3. Otherwise it doesn't worth buying, atrix remains one of the most powerful phones with great community support
ATRIX / ATRIX 4G MB860/MB861/ME860 Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM
Evaluation & Planning Further details to follow.
Motorola should be crazy
i understand now, motorola very bad corparation and can't sale phones international
I'll be using mine until another quad core google (made by Google) phone comes out. Or if I choose to by the Asus padfone with the money I spent on my prime. I do have experience with rooting unlocking flashing etc I fully modded my backflip. So I don't agree with your average Joe statement. I just refuse to do that for this amazing piece of hardware until stable ics comes out 100% stable working everything. Which means that this ics update IS worth waiting for.JS
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i might have missed something but i didn't see canada listed anywhere.
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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+1
Many people don't updgrade just because they can. I just had to pry my wife's fingers off her Nokia E71 to get her a free Atrix last month. I am going to leave it stock and locked. While I may be using a different phone a year from now she will still have the Atrix which means I will still have access to the lapdock! It will be nice to have ICS..
I love my Atrix and I'm happy about news.
I think I will use till it will break. I don't see any point upgrading even to Tegra 3 or whatever. For phone even Atrix hardware is overkill (for near future).
If you want get highest score in benchmarks, sure then you should upgrade phone alomst every other month...
I gotta agree the atrix is really good even tho newer devices are better they arent that much better than its worth an upgrade.......I preffer wating until there is a quad core phone with battery life that doesn't suck.Also 1Gb of RAM is pretty much the norm now and with about 100 apps on my device im reaching that limit already.Also who cares about the cores dual core phones right now aren't really doing much unless they're on ICS which actually takes advantage of both cores and even then most apps aren't optimized for dualcore so what is the point of four cores....??? there are advantages but still its just funny why take hardware so far instead make better software to utilize what you already have look at apple they dont even have dualcore iphones yet their devices are super smooth and this is coming from me and I hate apple so much.
My main piint is atrix with ICS means that neither att or manufactures will get my money until they got something that really stands out with good hardware and good software and i know most phone are still gonna be on gingerbread probably until this years end....
Well, today, the Galaxy S 2 AT&t got official ICS 4.0.3; a mere 8 months after its release, while we still have at least 3 more months before ICS is official and our phone has been out for over 16 months. Something smells fishy to me.
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And cue the "pile on Motorola even though we don't have any concrete evidence" bandwagon in 5...4...3...
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NEVER buy a phone for upgradability purposes. You'll more than likely get burned.
Go ahead and jump to touchwiz then. Stop making rant posts.
I'd rather wait for the new stockblur look and still enjoy my phone.
93% of android devices are still not on ICS yet life goes on.....
Phone already does everything I needed it to. By the time ICS comes out there will be Jelly Bean devices coming out anyway.....
Different phones get upgraded at different rates. The Atrix saw a lot of updates in the first few months. The updates from Motorola may have slowed down but the updates from CM and other ROM devs haven't. There's plenty of life in the ol' beast yet.
Check out Jokersax' CM9. A few things aren't quite there yet, but if you work around them you'll have a near-full functioning CM9. Once ICS is official the few remaining driver issues should be worked out.
My moms Android still has Froyo.
You will NEVER win when it comes to cell phones. Or with any electronics.
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andrew.cambridge said:
My moms Android still has Froyo.
You will NEVER win when it comes to cell phones. Or with any electronics.
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Same with my Dad's XPRT. Trapped on Froyo right now. But unlike the Atrix, the XPRT has pretty much no developer community.
stewartsoda said:
Where's my downvote button?
NEVER buy a phone for upgradability purposes. You'll more than likely get burned.
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That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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Well guys seems like the Droid Bionic which has ICS slated for update Q3 along with our beloved Atrix 4G already has a leaked version out.
Below is tinyurl I can't post links yet due to forum rules.
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Sass86 said:
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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I tend to agree with this sentiment. It's the whole voting with your wallet thing. Unfortunately it's partially subjective. As I said the Atrix got several updates right out of the gate. The Xoom has been quick to get updates. From what I've seen Motorola is one of the top manufacturers from an update perspective.
But like others they do lag behind the Nexus line and they definitely lag behind all the developers out there (and here).
Remember that many of us purchased the Atrix on hardware specs hoping that there would be updates. At the time it was released dual-core phones were unheard of.
Fast updates are one of the things you risk giving up when you go the subsidized route. What you lose in updates you tend to gain in hardware and cost efficiency. The best route if you want fast updates is to move to the Nexus line. You'll spend more buying a new phone at full cost every year or two but you'll get updates a hell of a lot faster and end up with a stock device.
Sass86 said:
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are different.
Go to a different manufacturer. The only one that consistently hasn't had this problem is Apple.
Atrix came out before that 18-month agreement was made.
stewartsoda said:
In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are different.
Go to a different manufacturer. The only one that consistently hasn't had this problem is Apple.
Atrix came out before that 18-month agreement was made.
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Apple only has to developed for 3 phones (as of right now). All the other phone companies keep crapping out phones 4 times a month trying to outdo each other.
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I wonder when my Backflip is getting ICS. I keep checking the Moto upgrade site each day!!!! I hear that there is a leaked beta out.
andrew.cambridge said:
Apple only has to developed for 3 phones (as of right now). All the other phone companies keep crapping out phones 4 times a month trying to outdo each other.
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It's true, Apple is only supporting three very similar phones right now. But they have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software, albeit with reduced features sometimes.
As for other manufacturers, I'm reminded of the bad old days of badge-engineering with cars. Chrysler and their K-cars are a prime example. It reflects a "we build crap but we sure sell a lot of crap" mindset.
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It's true, Apple is only supporting three very similar phones right now. But they have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software, albeit with reduced features sometimes.
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"They [Apple] have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software"... that they make, they announce, and they release.
Of course Apple products are on the latest software that they create and don't release until it works on their own products...
Motorola is fine. It's just nvidia sucks.
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May I ask you, who desperately waiting for update, what you are waiting for? What exactly is missing in GB? I know features of ICS but to be honest, nothing so special that we can not live without.
And yes, blame nVidia more than Motorola.
Zeljko1234 said:
And yes, blame nVidia more than Motorola.
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Deggy said:
Motorola is fine. It's just nvidia sucks.
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That's not true even the Droid razr didn't get ics update yet
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