Well, today, the Galaxy S 2 AT&t got official ICS 4.0.3; a mere 8 months after its release, while we still have at least 3 more months before ICS is official and our phone has been out for over 16 months. Something smells fishy to me.
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
And cue the "pile on Motorola even though we don't have any concrete evidence" bandwagon in 5...4...3...
Where's my downvote button?
NEVER buy a phone for upgradability purposes. You'll more than likely get burned.
Go ahead and jump to touchwiz then. Stop making rant posts.
I'd rather wait for the new stockblur look and still enjoy my phone.
93% of android devices are still not on ICS yet life goes on.....
Phone already does everything I needed it to. By the time ICS comes out there will be Jelly Bean devices coming out anyway.....
Different phones get upgraded at different rates. The Atrix saw a lot of updates in the first few months. The updates from Motorola may have slowed down but the updates from CM and other ROM devs haven't. There's plenty of life in the ol' beast yet.
Check out Jokersax' CM9. A few things aren't quite there yet, but if you work around them you'll have a near-full functioning CM9. Once ICS is official the few remaining driver issues should be worked out.
My moms Android still has Froyo.
You will NEVER win when it comes to cell phones. Or with any electronics.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA
andrew.cambridge said:
My moms Android still has Froyo.
You will NEVER win when it comes to cell phones. Or with any electronics.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same with my Dad's XPRT. Trapped on Froyo right now. But unlike the Atrix, the XPRT has pretty much no developer community.
stewartsoda said:
Where's my downvote button?
NEVER buy a phone for upgradability purposes. You'll more than likely get burned.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Well guys seems like the Droid Bionic which has ICS slated for update Q3 along with our beloved Atrix 4G already has a leaked version out.
Below is tinyurl I can't post links yet due to forum rules.
tinyurl.com/7c9zzq4
Sass86 said:
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tend to agree with this sentiment. It's the whole voting with your wallet thing. Unfortunately it's partially subjective. As I said the Atrix got several updates right out of the gate. The Xoom has been quick to get updates. From what I've seen Motorola is one of the top manufacturers from an update perspective.
But like others they do lag behind the Nexus line and they definitely lag behind all the developers out there (and here).
Remember that many of us purchased the Atrix on hardware specs hoping that there would be updates. At the time it was released dual-core phones were unheard of.
Fast updates are one of the things you risk giving up when you go the subsidized route. What you lose in updates you tend to gain in hardware and cost efficiency. The best route if you want fast updates is to move to the Nexus line. You'll spend more buying a new phone at full cost every year or two but you'll get updates a hell of a lot faster and end up with a stock device.
Sass86 said:
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are different.
Go to a different manufacturer. The only one that consistently hasn't had this problem is Apple.
Atrix came out before that 18-month agreement was made.
stewartsoda said:
In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are different.
Go to a different manufacturer. The only one that consistently hasn't had this problem is Apple.
Atrix came out before that 18-month agreement was made.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apple only has to developed for 3 phones (as of right now). All the other phone companies keep crapping out phones 4 times a month trying to outdo each other.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA
Moto
I wonder when my Backflip is getting ICS. I keep checking the Moto upgrade site each day!!!! I hear that there is a leaked beta out.
andrew.cambridge said:
Apple only has to developed for 3 phones (as of right now). All the other phone companies keep crapping out phones 4 times a month trying to outdo each other.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's true, Apple is only supporting three very similar phones right now. But they have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software, albeit with reduced features sometimes.
As for other manufacturers, I'm reminded of the bad old days of badge-engineering with cars. Chrysler and their K-cars are a prime example. It reflects a "we build crap but we sure sell a lot of crap" mindset.
stewartsoda said:
It's true, Apple is only supporting three very similar phones right now. But they have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software, albeit with reduced features sometimes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"They [Apple] have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software"... that they make, they announce, and they release.
Of course Apple products are on the latest software that they create and don't release until it works on their own products...
Motorola is fine. It's just nvidia sucks.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA
May I ask you, who desperately waiting for update, what you are waiting for? What exactly is missing in GB? I know features of ICS but to be honest, nothing so special that we can not live without.
And yes, blame nVidia more than Motorola.
Zeljko1234 said:
And yes, blame nVidia more than Motorola.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Atrix Head
Deggy said:
Motorola is fine. It's just nvidia sucks.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not true even the Droid razr didn't get ics update yet
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G MB860 using xda premium
Related
I've just heard that the European 3.1 update for the Asus Eee Transformer is rolling out today, and I'm forced to stick with 3.01 on my EU Xoom!!!
I wish I'd followed my gut feeling and not rushed into purchasing a Motorola product. I am now stuck with an obsolete product with no scheduled EU release for the update.
This company sucks big time.... rant over
Sent from my MZ601 using XDA Premium App
Can't you just flash the US Images and manually update to 3.1?
No because I would unfortunately lose my 3G
Sent from my MZ601 using XDA Premium App
gqstatus0685 said:
Can't you just flash the US Images and manually update to 3.1?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looking at this post at the motorola support forums, that mayleave us with no warranty.
The whole lack of an official update has pissed me off too. Really crap on Motorola's part.
I feel for you guys
Feel for you guys.
They suck in this front totally.
I feel you, but how is it obsolete? Its still works doesn't it?
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA Premium App
How come Asus can push 3.1 update out TODAY to the Transformer and we are looking at waiting for MONTHS?
I mean the whole reason of getting teh Xoom was because it was supposed to be a "Google Experience" device that will get updates first. I got the Xoom and not the transformer, even the transformer is £100 cheaper, has a working SD card slot, the ability to dock to a keyboard and extended battery, and a way better IPS screen
This is my first and last Motorola purchase
ahhh damn i had the same situation i was between transformer and xoom and i buy the xoom because i hoped to get updates directly and have not to wait and wait and wait and wait.
I love android over all but on the update part apple is realy more professional and it works. Why i can't get a update if it's ready.
Like the others my first and last device from motorola
Droidz said:
I feel you, but how is it obsolete? Its still works doesn't it?
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's running an obsolete buggy os that is now superceded on competitor devices! In my book that makes it obsolete. Thank god for Ebay, and with a bit of luck Motorola will get what's coming to them.... failure in the tablet market and eventual bankruptcy.
My impatience has turned to anger, sorry everyone.
Sent from my MZ601 using XDA Premium App
I'm with you. Totally annoyed with lack of support from Motorola. Docking station without any USB passthrough, no SD Card support, no date on release of 3.1.
Absolute RUBBISH and my last ever purchase of a Motorola produc.
Plus still no stock images. It's the lack of information as much as anything else
Would it be worth asking some Android Centric sites or tech blogs in general to write a few articles on the situation? There is a large thread on the Motorola support forums on with no info given and plenty of other threads asking the same thing.
No one is getting anywhere with Motorola and perhaps some pressure from the media might make Moto spill the beans on a release schedule?
I'm not normally into negative press campaigns but it would be a good test to see if Moto are listening (like HTC did with the bootloader issue).
> I mean the whole reason of getting teh Xoom was because it was supposed to be a "Google Experience" device that will get updates first.
Here is your problem. The Xoom was sold as a Google device in the US and the US alone. For the rest of the world it was a Motorola device, with all the baggage that brings with it, and probally shouldn't have been called the Xoom. The *only* saving grace here is that the US and EU wifi versions are the same hardware, and are software compatible. If you have a non-US wifi Xoom, flash the US software or take it back as you will never be happy with with the update situation.
If your worried about your warranty etc after flashing, be aware that store clerks cannot tell which part of the complicated electronics recived a far higher voltage than it was rated for, and this combined with nicer EU consumer protection laws means your device can be returned with impunity.
It is a shame Google decided against a Nexus Tablet, I just spent more on a Nexus S than a new LG 2x would have set me back. Mainly because I cannot be arsed with continually having to waste time jumping through hoops with Android. I love the OS, but frankly the OEM's and US carriers will kill it faster than free iPhones in cereal.
andyiacovou said:
No because I would unfortunately lose my 3G
Sent from my MZ601 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089695
(more to the thread) You bought a device with an unlockable bootloader -- this ALWAYS gives you a choice, wait for Motorola, or do it yourself.
To be honest I am only a semi-competent user and do not have the confidence to follow that procedure. I should not have to, the product should be supported by the manufacturer, it's not even been out for 3 months!
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA Premium App
andyiacovou said:
To be honest I am only a semi-competent user and do not have the confidence to follow that procedure. I should not have to, the product should be supported by the manufacturer, it's not even been out for 3 months!
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
completely agree with you....i didnt pay 700 euro to do all this myself....its basic responsibility of motorola to provide the update first to xoom........
can't we do something about this? how people has raised their voice against htc and HTC had to reply.....
I have the Canadian Xoom and I am pissed at Motorola as well, my first Motorola product and soon my last, how much different is the USA xoom versus the EU/Canadian, is it that different that it takes months to release the 3.1 update ? like others have said, I paid big bucks for this I am happy with it but I do not feel conferable rooting it and I should not have to, all I want is to be able to download the photos from my DSLR, if I do not get the update soon I will root it, then Motorola can KISS MY (you know the rest), I do not believe it is Google fault for not releasing 3.1 to the non US Xooms, simply Motorola does not give a crap about its customers outside of the US,
thanks
(had to vent)
Chalk up another bonus for living in the good 'ole USA
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
Hey there,
Here's the source link: http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/breaking-google-buys-motorola-for-12-5-billion/
$12.5 Billion! Can't wait for the future of Motorola Mobility now
- DarkRyoushii
I was just about to post this
This is completely insane!
I can't wait to see what this will mean for existing Motorola phones. Will they finally release an official stock android? And most importantly, what impact will it have on the Android ecosystem as a whole?
Either way, this can only be good news for all of us!
Bring on nexus 3!
Swyped from "Mount" Olympus
nitrox1 said:
Bring on nexus 3!
Swyped from "Mount" Olympus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Definitely!
I think this is huge. It means some of these powerful Motorola phones might actually get the support and updates they need to show off their potential.
Bring on Ice Cream for the Atrix!
I don't expect we'll see any major changes in a while though.
"The transaction is expected to close by the end of 2011 or early 2012."
RatTub said:
This is completely insane!
I can't wait to see what this will mean for existing Motorola phones. Will they finally release an official stock android? And most importantly, what impact will it have on the Android ecosystem as a whole?
Either way, this can only be good news for all of us!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A huge shocker... not a big surprise though as Mr. Sanjay Jha already pointed out some big changes were about to happen when he said they are out not fishing for patents and are ready to fight all those infringment charges, last week.
For motorola its good or not is something i cant understand, but for google this is going to be a huge win as moto is one of the biggest patent holders and one of the hurdles stopping El Goog from dominating the smartphone market.
At the end it also means, google will have android as an open source platform n also means that we are the blessed ones who owns a motorola phone...
Kudos to both Motorola and El Goog...
Now go out there and beat the crap out of the competition...(Dear apple, u know whats coming n what you do next...)
Fantastic news, lets hope this means that a future Motorola!! Nexus phone with have a LED notification light.
Seems like we don't have to worry about getting ics after all
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G MB860 using XDA App
hopefully this means ICE CREAM for our ATrix and beyond!
So the leaked images of ATRIX 2 might be Nexus X (3).
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
This will be great for us ATRIX users!
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
samomamo said:
So the leaked images of ATRIX 2 might be Nexus X (3).
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wouldn't count on it. I think the Nexus will be released before the transaction is completed.
Also, at CES, Matias Duarte told Engadget that the next version of Android wouldn't requires hardware buttons like all previous phones.
Well we didn't know that google was buying Motorola right. So they might have planed the nexusrola too.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
samomamo said:
Well we didn't know that google was buying Motorola right. So they might have planed the nexusrola too.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Of course, the nexus could very well be a Motorola device. But it would kick the Atrix 2's ass
I came. Anyone know if android phones' would become more "standardized" I.e. more uniformed shape and specs like apple phones?
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
There is way too much speculation without any kind of background whatsoever. This acquisition has probably got more to do with Motorola's patent portfolio than anything else.
I wonder how many people actually read the articles (not just the headlines) before they make a comment about the future of Android.
live4nyy said:
There is way too much speculation without any kind of background whatsoever. This acquisition has probably got more to do with Motorola's patent portfolio than anything else.
I wonder how many people actually read the articles (not just the headlines) before they make a comment about the future of Android.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You mean this part?
Andy Rubin, Senior Vice President of Mobile at Google, said, “We expect that this combination will enable us to break new ground for the Android ecosystem”
live4nyy said:
There is way too much speculation without any kind of background whatsoever. This acquisition has probably got more to do with Motorola's patent portfolio than anything else.
I wonder how many people actually read the articles (not just the headlines) before they make a comment about the future of Android.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel like they're stressing the patent portfolio so that they don't have to worry about antitrust issues, I feel like there will be quite a few more nexus style phones and the attic might be treated more like a nexus.
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G MB860 using XDA App
Okay, others have asked prime or hercules, and my real question that would determine which I choose.. our vibrants had REAL potential. No less than the new phone should have, just lesser hardware. All of the sgs1 us versions seem to have no support or updates except what you find on here(after a few months).
Will the hercules have the same fate? Is there any reason to believe they won't do the same thing again? I don't want to spend another 500+ on a device they forget about a few months after they release it. Would you take the chance seeing their track record with our phone and variants?
The most odd thing is that the international versions seem to be better supported(the i9100 more than i9000), so is the problem that they don't want to waste their resources keeping 4 different models of the phone updated in the US? And could they possibly keep the hardware on the us variants close enough spec wise that they could work on an upgrade for all versions, and just tweak each for specific devices?
I know there are no solid answers out there, but I am more wondering what the community here thinks.
Most likely not this happened do to the SGS4G came out if something similar happens again but you know that is why there is xda an the cyanogen team so don't worry
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
Not sure what the guy above wrote, but yes it will happen again. I dont think its sammys fault completly. More so the US carriers. My next phone will either be a nexus/htc/motoroogle.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Yes it will most likely happen again. It's the carrier's business model. They want you to shell out the money to buy the newer phone so they only support the older model for so long. Get a Nexus phone if you want updates faster.
From what I have read this far the sg2 will be replaced by the sg2 plus to match the nexus prime's screen resolution. Because of that fact I will not buy sg2 as well the nexus phone will be the last sammy phone because google just acquired motorola. So the next google phone will be a motorola.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
jneal9 said:
Yes it will most likely happen again. It's the carrier's business model. They want you to shell out the money to buy the newer phone so they only support the older model for so long. Get a Nexus phone if you want updates faster.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well the nexus got updates quicker and I constantly see(via news readers) most phones getting updates regardless of carrier.
What the jasonhunterx said(that I could understand) about having xda or cyanogen is opposite of ideal.. where would our devices be if we got a source from Samsung for gingerbread? Miles ahead, everything working, less headaches for developers and users..
But I don't see this as something the carrier is responsible for unless the manufacturer made an agreement with them, which would border on crooked.
I would have bought the sgs2 if it wasn't with att bands.. and there's no promise that the prime will be offeres as a T-Mobile phone.
If the prime doesn't hit T-Mobile and the Hercules is doomed to make the same mistakes, what phone would you get to stay with tmo? Is there an international phone that has the right bands and can compare to sgs2, Hercules, or prime?
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
Yes it WILL happen. The right thing to do is just buy a nexus phone.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
iynfynity said:
Yes it WILL happen. The right thing to do is just buy a nexus phone.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And if Samsung makes the prime? Or if tmo doesn't get the prime? That is the question.
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
I believe that the Hercules will have much better support. In my opinion, just like the second poster said, they stopped supporting the vibrant because tmo launched its new "4g" service not too long after the vibrant dropped. So unless 5g comes out a week after the Hercules, I don't think we should have anything to worry about. I hope.......
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
Of course its going to happen.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
kaintfm said:
Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes 2.2 for vibrant is stable but there are some Apps that can only be use when you're using gingerbread.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
iynfynity said:
Yes 2.2 for vibrant is stable but there are some Apps that can only be use when you're using gingerbread.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's like 2 of those
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
kaintfm said:
Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are phones running 1.5 stable, but that isn't a reason it shouldn't be upgraded to whatever it can run. Take the Motorola droid. I have no idea what they updated to, but the og droid has run cyanogen stable far before our vibrant could run it at all. It is a solid phone, and wasn't "discarded" by the manufacturer soon after the release. They did a good job I heard.
The sgs1 branded phone is capable of more than the current generation of android. The iphone, with all the things I don't like about the way they do their phones, supports multiple generations of their products for multiple years. Our phones shouldn't be 2 generations of os behind with no real hope of an upgrade within a year of coming out.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk
pretty sure yes, so if u want a SGS II get the "international' version
for me NO MORE US VERSION of any Samsung phone
I think the Hercules will be the lower of the other sgs2 variants nothing will be easy just as the vibrant was full of great dev but nothing to work with but the same stuff. GB has came a long way we thought that was going to be a easy port, lol I really hope they at least get the gps right on the sgs2 this run. End of rant ;-)
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
I say look at track record.
Behold->Vibrant-> hercules. It just goes to show, if you want something done, you just have to do it yourself. I mean really, I just rooted lg vortex, from two years ago that had 2.2.2
Beware of angry gingerbread man
adamcooks said:
I say look at track record.
Behold->Vibrant-> hercules. It just goes to show, if you want something done, you just have to do it yourself. I mean really, I just rooted lg vortex, from two years ago that had 2.2.2
Beware of angry gingerbread man
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2nd this. Same ol from Samsung/T-Mobile. Going HTC prime or iphone next round.
Yes i am quite sure that these phones will not get the support that the unbranded version will get...
A company like Apple has a tough time supporting a couple of devices then just imagine how difficult it is for samsung to provide great support for the 50-60 phones it dishes out every year
No support for Hercules. It's Vibrant/Galaxy S 1 all over again. Each of the carriers releasing a different variant of a phone that was released months ago in Europe. You'd be crazy to buy a Hercules or other SGS2 phone. Just what was the reason for the delay? Carrier customizations, more than likely. And the fact that it took them so long to release the US variants does not speak well for future updates.
Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
realarchambeau said:
Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
thewarhawk said:
Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I guess it really depends on where you are. USA is Q3.
Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM are Eval and planning.
thewarhawk said:
Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Uuh... i think you're looking a little too far south on that list. The one YOU'RE looking at says:
ATRIX / ATRIX 4G MB860/MB861/ME860
Asia Pacific, EMEA, and LATAM
Evaluation & Planning
Further details to follow
Look a little further up the list, and you see:
Atrix 4G MB860
USA
Development
Rollouts begin Q3 2012
So i guess it's already in development for the US market, but still planning for other locale's. Guess it doesn't really matter anyhow... i'm sure we'll have a much nicer version of CM9 LONG before Motorola gets around to making an effort.
Looks like I will continue to use the atrix for a long time! Which is great because the new moto devices wont work with my docks.
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
jimmer411 said:
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll still be using and doing work on mine
sent from my Transformer Prime
jimmer411 said:
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will ^_^
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium ... that'll still be joyfully used in 6 months
Ok well that's 2 people.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
jimmer411 said:
Ok well that's 2 people.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Alcapone263 said:
You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not to mention that it helps resell value a little bit for those who will be unloading their phones. Selling a Gingerbread phone when ICS is widespread would be a much tougher sell.
this is awesome, im stoked!!! I hope they fix the fingerprint stuff and fix the battery....get me some JUICE!!!!
jimmer411 said:
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. By the time Q3 kicks in, Quad core phones would be rolling out. Also, remember the Milestone debacle in regards to the Gingerbread roll out which was pushed further and further away. By the time it was released, the update was crap and slowed pretty much the phone down. I sold mine a few months prior to the GB update.
MOD/ROM Devs will either take another 2-4 extra months of tweaking or move on to better things. When Atrix was newly released it took around a few months for a decent ROM to come out. Another few months right after the bootloader was unlocked. Plus, it still depends on HOW MANY Devs will be producing Roms by then.
Understand also that, there are some Atrix owners that are wary of modding their phone. An average Joe wouldnt want to mess with it.
We are only but a handful of modders that are willing to take a leap of faith in phone customization. I got coworkers who own Android phones and are NOT interested in regards to roms/mods.
Currently, im in a dilemma of either switching to a Gnex or wait for the Quad. Only time will tell....
There are some other countries in the world except USA and Canada And in many of them carriers do not subsidize phones and even don't have contracts with fixed monthly payments. For example, I may pay nothing for several months if I only use wifi and accept incoming calls.
So I don't have a reason to buy something else. I think I will do it when a phone 4 cores, 2gb ram, micro sd slot, changeable battery, HDMI, NFC, LTE, unlockable bootloader appears. I don't believe this kind of phone with fully working CM7/9 will appear in Q3. Otherwise it doesn't worth buying, atrix remains one of the most powerful phones with great community support
ATRIX / ATRIX 4G MB860/MB861/ME860 Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM
Evaluation & Planning Further details to follow.
Motorola should be crazy
i understand now, motorola very bad corparation and can't sale phones international
I'll be using mine until another quad core google (made by Google) phone comes out. Or if I choose to by the Asus padfone with the money I spent on my prime. I do have experience with rooting unlocking flashing etc I fully modded my backflip. So I don't agree with your average Joe statement. I just refuse to do that for this amazing piece of hardware until stable ics comes out 100% stable working everything. Which means that this ics update IS worth waiting for.JS
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
i might have missed something but i didn't see canada listed anywhere.
Alcapone263 said:
You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Many people don't updgrade just because they can. I just had to pry my wife's fingers off her Nokia E71 to get her a free Atrix last month. I am going to leave it stock and locked. While I may be using a different phone a year from now she will still have the Atrix which means I will still have access to the lapdock! It will be nice to have ICS..
I love my Atrix and I'm happy about news.
I think I will use till it will break. I don't see any point upgrading even to Tegra 3 or whatever. For phone even Atrix hardware is overkill (for near future).
If you want get highest score in benchmarks, sure then you should upgrade phone alomst every other month...
I gotta agree the atrix is really good even tho newer devices are better they arent that much better than its worth an upgrade.......I preffer wating until there is a quad core phone with battery life that doesn't suck.Also 1Gb of RAM is pretty much the norm now and with about 100 apps on my device im reaching that limit already.Also who cares about the cores dual core phones right now aren't really doing much unless they're on ICS which actually takes advantage of both cores and even then most apps aren't optimized for dualcore so what is the point of four cores....??? there are advantages but still its just funny why take hardware so far instead make better software to utilize what you already have look at apple they dont even have dualcore iphones yet their devices are super smooth and this is coming from me and I hate apple so much.
My main piint is atrix with ICS means that neither att or manufactures will get my money until they got something that really stands out with good hardware and good software and i know most phone are still gonna be on gingerbread probably until this years end....
I guess the lesson here is that if you are not a Verizon customer, don't buy a Motorola product. Otherwise, you are treated like a booger...nice and shiny that gets lot of attention for a minute, and then flicked away and forgotten. Even though the Razor Nexus is a rumor, I think it will become a reality in the near future.
Oh yea, the other lesson here, don't always believe everything Motorola says. haha
http://www.examiner.com/article/report-motorola-will-make-next-google-nexus-smartphone
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
this is highly beleievable to be honest :good:
seeing as google own motorola, all you have to do is put 2 and 2 together really lol they gain extra profit without having to share the profit with the phone manufacturer because they are the phone manufacturing as well as software manufacturer lol
This is highly unlickly. The next Nexus is going to be made by LG, not Motorola. Motorola MAY make the Nexus 5, if it ever comes out.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app
djluis48 said:
This is highly unlickly. The next Nexus is going to be made by LG, not Motorola. Motorola MAY make the Nexus 5, if it ever comes out.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't forget, rumour has it that there will be multiple Nexus devices coming out. We still won't know till they reveal them in a few days time at the event. So let's just have our fingers crossed that there are more choices for our devices (although I'll still ignore a Nexus from Motorola, they treat us customers like ****)
syngamer96 said:
Don't forget, rumour has it that there will be multiple Nexus devices coming out. We still won't know till they reveal them in a few days time at the event. So let's just have our fingers crossed that there are more choices for our devices (although I'll still ignore a Nexus from Motorola, they treat us customers like ****)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That turned out to just be one elaborate hoax, the guy/gal who started it came forward. No multiple nexus phones, theme centre and so on.
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
I'd consider that. I'm happy with the hardware. That whole ICS cocktease was absurd tho.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2
No more Moto for me. Hardware is fine but update support is minor.
but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps
attrixnor said:
but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.
CaelanT said:
The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are a couple of reasons to upgrade to ICS/JB. One is security. There are enhancements (such as ASLR) which make it much more difficult for hackers to run their own code on your phone. The other is usability. ICS and JB is just way more usable IMO. The UI is clean, and requires less taps to get to common functions. I stayed on GB for a while, tried ICS and though, meh. But JB was a huge jump in maturity in the OS.
attrixnor said:
but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To expand on the previous post. There are many security flaws in GB. Look ho often desk tops are updated to close possible exploits. With smart phones becoming ever more popular they are coming under increasing threats. JB fixes many of the possible exploits. My phone contains most of my personal data including banking information. I want to keep that data safe.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium HD app
i anderstand so much now
CaelanT said:
The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^ Plus on top of that they started us with Froyo, when GB was already out.
The only "real" support the Atrix ever got was when BL Unlock got leaked.
I find it funny that the devs here made Motorola's team look like a bunch of chimps...
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
ccrows said:
^ Plus on top of that they started us with Froyo, when GB was already out.
The only "real" support the Atrix ever got was when BL Unlock got leaked.
I find it funny that the devs here made Motorola's team look like a bunch of chimps...
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Motorola's dev are not bad at all. Motorola Management is.
if motorola dev read us pretty sure , please post the new kernel for ics ....a gift for christmas :highfive:
go back to earth
xda dev work hard on new lg kernel i think ... it's our only way
ticiano_arraes said:
Motorola's dev are not bad at all. Motorola Management is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
*Thinks about Motoblur for a second*
Gotta disagree...
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
grevedan said:
There are a couple of reasons to upgrade to ICS/JB. One is security. There are enhancements (such as ASLR) which make it much more difficult for hackers to run their own code on your phone. The other is usability. ICS and JB is just way more usable IMO. The UI is clean, and requires less taps to get to common functions. I stayed on GB for a while, tried ICS and though, meh. But JB was a huge jump in maturity in the OS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But, what I see as the major beef from the majority of people is nothing more than the fact they didn't get the update. Most people, including those who frequent the XDA (Atrix) forums here, couldn't tell you what is different other than to say UI, face unlock, and kernel.
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
ccrows said:
*Thinks about Motoblur for a second*
Gotta disagree...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You don't seem to realize just how much influence the management can have over development.
I'm also a full-time developer so I know.
Rarz nexus hohoh
always the same appearance of the Razr, never innovates