Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
realarchambeau said:
Not Rumor!
Atrix MB860 ICS confirmed from Moto
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Currently in Developement:
ATRIX 4G MB860-Rollouts begin in Q3 2012.
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Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
thewarhawk said:
Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Well I guess it really depends on where you are. USA is Q3.
Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM are Eval and planning.
thewarhawk said:
Hm it's listed as "Evaluation & Planning" I wonder if that means they are evaluating whether or not they want to update it at all
thanks for the heads up
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Uuh... i think you're looking a little too far south on that list. The one YOU'RE looking at says:
ATRIX / ATRIX 4G MB860/MB861/ME860
Asia Pacific, EMEA, and LATAM
Evaluation & Planning
Further details to follow
Look a little further up the list, and you see:
Atrix 4G MB860
USA
Development
Rollouts begin Q3 2012
So i guess it's already in development for the US market, but still planning for other locale's. Guess it doesn't really matter anyhow... i'm sure we'll have a much nicer version of CM9 LONG before Motorola gets around to making an effort.
Looks like I will continue to use the atrix for a long time! Which is great because the new moto devices wont work with my docks.
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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jimmer411 said:
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I'll still be using and doing work on mine
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jimmer411 said:
Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I will ^_^
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Ok well that's 2 people.
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Ok well that's 2 people.
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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Not to mention that it helps resell value a little bit for those who will be unloading their phones. Selling a Gingerbread phone when ICS is widespread would be a much tougher sell.
this is awesome, im stoked!!! I hope they fix the fingerprint stuff and fix the battery....get me some JUICE!!!!
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Nobody will be using the atrix in q3, let alone developing for it.
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I agree. By the time Q3 kicks in, Quad core phones would be rolling out. Also, remember the Milestone debacle in regards to the Gingerbread roll out which was pushed further and further away. By the time it was released, the update was crap and slowed pretty much the phone down. I sold mine a few months prior to the GB update.
MOD/ROM Devs will either take another 2-4 extra months of tweaking or move on to better things. When Atrix was newly released it took around a few months for a decent ROM to come out. Another few months right after the bootloader was unlocked. Plus, it still depends on HOW MANY Devs will be producing Roms by then.
Understand also that, there are some Atrix owners that are wary of modding their phone. An average Joe wouldnt want to mess with it.
We are only but a handful of modders that are willing to take a leap of faith in phone customization. I got coworkers who own Android phones and are NOT interested in regards to roms/mods.
Currently, im in a dilemma of either switching to a Gnex or wait for the Quad. Only time will tell....
There are some other countries in the world except USA and Canada And in many of them carriers do not subsidize phones and even don't have contracts with fixed monthly payments. For example, I may pay nothing for several months if I only use wifi and accept incoming calls.
So I don't have a reason to buy something else. I think I will do it when a phone 4 cores, 2gb ram, micro sd slot, changeable battery, HDMI, NFC, LTE, unlockable bootloader appears. I don't believe this kind of phone with fully working CM7/9 will appear in Q3. Otherwise it doesn't worth buying, atrix remains one of the most powerful phones with great community support
ATRIX / ATRIX 4G MB860/MB861/ME860 Asia Pacific, EMEA and LATAM
Evaluation & Planning Further details to follow.
Motorola should be crazy
i understand now, motorola very bad corparation and can't sale phones international
I'll be using mine until another quad core google (made by Google) phone comes out. Or if I choose to by the Asus padfone with the money I spent on my prime. I do have experience with rooting unlocking flashing etc I fully modded my backflip. So I don't agree with your average Joe statement. I just refuse to do that for this amazing piece of hardware until stable ics comes out 100% stable working everything. Which means that this ics update IS worth waiting for.JS
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i might have missed something but i didn't see canada listed anywhere.
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You serious? The majority of atrix owners don't unlock their boot loaders or know anything about custom roms, and will be on a 2 year contract with their phones. This will breathe life into a phone near the end of the contract, which is awesome
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+1
Many people don't updgrade just because they can. I just had to pry my wife's fingers off her Nokia E71 to get her a free Atrix last month. I am going to leave it stock and locked. While I may be using a different phone a year from now she will still have the Atrix which means I will still have access to the lapdock! It will be nice to have ICS..
I love my Atrix and I'm happy about news.
I think I will use till it will break. I don't see any point upgrading even to Tegra 3 or whatever. For phone even Atrix hardware is overkill (for near future).
If you want get highest score in benchmarks, sure then you should upgrade phone alomst every other month...
I gotta agree the atrix is really good even tho newer devices are better they arent that much better than its worth an upgrade.......I preffer wating until there is a quad core phone with battery life that doesn't suck.Also 1Gb of RAM is pretty much the norm now and with about 100 apps on my device im reaching that limit already.Also who cares about the cores dual core phones right now aren't really doing much unless they're on ICS which actually takes advantage of both cores and even then most apps aren't optimized for dualcore so what is the point of four cores....??? there are advantages but still its just funny why take hardware so far instead make better software to utilize what you already have look at apple they dont even have dualcore iphones yet their devices are super smooth and this is coming from me and I hate apple so much.
My main piint is atrix with ICS means that neither att or manufactures will get my money until they got something that really stands out with good hardware and good software and i know most phone are still gonna be on gingerbread probably until this years end....
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I see that now one of the biggest moders like cyanogenmod and modaco are not developing things for this phone.
And the bootloader is still not hacked.
Im searching for a phone with big community, that have non stop roms and everything.. you know.. a good android phone.
I just don't know what to do, i need to buy a phone from USA now.
The only option is the Atrix ? And its sucks right now..
What to do ?
It doesn't suck.... you're just being super dranmatic
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=495971028278
This is help up?
If non stop roms is what makes a phone good to you, look elsewhere. This phone does not need an unlocked bootloader to kick most other phones asses.
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I see that now one of the biggest moders like cyanogenmod and modaco are not developing things for this phone.
And the bootloader is still not hacked.
Im searching for a phone with big community, that have non stop roms and everything.. you know.. a good android phone.
I just don't know what to do, i need to buy a phone from USA now.
The only option is the Atrix ? And its sucks right now..
What to do ?
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this phone is not for you. wait for the nexus S on at&t, the lg thrill, or the samsung galaxy S 2
Idk if this is an at&t specific thing but the thunderbolt looks really nice and if it is at&t the inspire isn't bad at all, I personally love my atrix, I came from a hd2(which was constant flashing) and a nexus one(which I flashed acouple of custom roms due to stability issues), but if the phone works right and does everything you want it to there's no real reason to want custom roms
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modaco already started its support for optimus 2x, and paul is really making good results for cwm.. the problem is that g2x is not out yet in the usa and has no confirmed release date yet.
i suggest just wait for possible phones that would be hack friendly w/ no locked bootloaders since you want lots of custom roms, probably g2x, samsung galaxy s2, lg thrill, the next nexus(nexus 2 probably?) or "some" phones from htc(i heard htc is going to be strict w/ their bootloaders on their future phones also )?
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I see that now one of the biggest moders like cyanogenmod and modaco are not developing things for this phone.
And the bootloader is still not hacked.
Im searching for a phone with big community, that have non stop roms and everything.. you know.. a good android phone.
I just don't know what to do, i need to buy a phone from USA now.
The only option is the Atrix ? And its sucks right now..
What to do ?
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Nexus s, g2, or inspire.
The atrix would be a better phone if it had more roms. I dont care too much for stock.
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I can't wait, need to buy it now, its my only chance.
Nexus S? G2 ?
One core devices ....
So to buy the Atrix?
In the future there will be a gingerbread update right? and 1080p too?
Also it will be a strong and good devices without many roms and kernels...
And maybe it will be fully hacked ha.?
What you say.. buy it or not?
I say buy it and I agree with the people above in support of buying it as well.
You can by mine off of me if you'd like
ofek said:
I can't wait, need to buy it now, its my only chance.
Nexus S? G2 ?
One core devices ....
So to buy the Atrix?
In the future there will be a gingerbread update right? and 1080p too?
Also it will be a strong and good devices without many roms and kernels...
And maybe it will be fully hacked ha.?
What you say.. buy it or not?
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I guarantee you the nexus s along with others will contend with this phone in the long run. The atrix has lost more than once in dogfights and comparisons. Everyone makes it seem like if u have a single core phone than your simply outdated its just a matter of people wanting to play catch up. There are only 3 dual cores on the market right now.and most of the phones out now g2 nexus s inspire and 4g vibrant are considered better once rooted and hacked.
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charlieb620 said:
I guarantee you the nexus s along with others will contend with this phone in the long run. The atrix has lost more than once in dogfights and comparisons. Everyone makes it seem like if u have a single core phone than your simply outdated its just a matter of people wanting to play catch up. There are only 3 dual cores on the market right now.and most of the phones out now g2 nexus s inspire and 4g vibrant are considered better once rooted and hacked.
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if u feel like its ur only chance to get one now than shoot but there is barely any support for it kernel and rom wise. 2 roms are in developelment but they dont really enable much. Its a dual core whip out a rom or kernel that will blow other phones socks off. Have me running at 4.4ghz or something. My friends hacked mytouch 4g runs faster than the atrix and its single core lol
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I say go ahead and buy it. I originally came from the Evo and Sprint. I originally got the Atrix but then I swapped it for the Inspire. A couple weeks later I swappd the Inspire for an iPhone 4. About two days after, that I swapped the iPhone 4 back in for another Atrix. So I basically had a chance to try out 3 of the biggest phones on Att. The reason I came back to the Atrix is because first of all, its dual core. Even though the Inspire is a great phone, its single core. Its apps that's being developed that'll only work on dual core phones.
Another reason is speed and battery life. Both of which is really great on tge Atrix and blows away a lot of other phones.
Notice in my post I meantioned that I had the iphone for 2 days....that was all I needed to know I wasn't keeping that boring device.
I think the Atrix is already a great device despite not being able to flash rims at the current moment. Like I previously said the battery life is great and the speed is amazing. So if you don't mind running stock, then go for it.
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So if you don't mind running stock, then go for it.
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I mind !!!
I want cyanogenmod and roms and this stuff
So not to buy the Atrix? wait more ... and more .. oohhhh !!
ofek said:
I mind !!!
I want cyanogenmod and roms and this stuff
So not to buy the Atrix? wait more ... and more .. oohhhh !!
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Buy the inspire. I bought mine as a backup and haven't really touched it since installing CM7. Atrix runs fine with stock. I don't understand your need for roms when it performs fine out of the box.
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Don't just rush and get tgw Atrix,although I don't think we know enough to properly help you.
You said you need to get it "now", we know that,but how long are you going to be locked into the phone?
If you are just getting it foe the specs, you should really look at how you use the phone and see if dual cores is really something you want, because in my opinion (and I see myself as a heavy user) it isn't needed.
Unless you are playing Dungeon Defenders or other high end games, top tier single cored phones are good enough, don't just buy innto the hype of the specs tthat I and a lot of others did.
I got mine the day it came our here, used it, loved iit,compared to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, then took it back to ATT.
The 2.3.3 Nexus is just as fast doing pretty much everything; the battery lasts all day as well.
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You cannot legitimately compare the performance of two phones running different operating systems. The results are meaningless. Wait until the Atrix is running 2.3 and then it will be useful. I disagree that the single core phones will be equivalent under those conditions.
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I guarantee you the nexus s along with others will contend with this phone in the long run. The atrix has lost more than once in dogfights and comparisons. Everyone makes it seem like if u have a single core phone than your simply outdated its just a matter of people wanting to play catch up. There are only 3 dual cores on the market right now.and most of the phones out now g2 nexus s inspire and 4g vibrant are considered better once rooted and hacked.
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Well 2.3.3 isn't out for the Atrix right now so what are you going to do? I agree that it should be as level of a playing field but people are buying the phone right now.
Motorollla could have waited until they got 2.3 on the phone but they chose to release it now and that's what we are comparing it to
Just because it is being compared aand falling up short because of the os doesn't mean you can just disregard the test all together.
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Wait for the HTC pyramid it looks like a badass
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Went from a nexus one to a samsung vibrant to atrix. Atrix by far has been the best experience so far. Zero lag.
The n1 had a ****ed up touch screen, even after replacement
Vibrant had awful awful gps and considerable lag compared to n1
Atrix has solved all these problems, and I could give a **** about specs. This phone just works. Just try it before you buy it. I used to load custom roms on ntt previous two phones, but that was because they needed augmentation, this phone does not. Really the build quality is right up there with the n1 or the incredible. My phone has been on for 1 day and five hours, still got ten percent battery left. Been connected to wifi the entire time. I bought the phone yesterday so you know I've been using it.
Amazing, love the high resolution, so much more breathing room. My 2 cents.
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Okay, others have asked prime or hercules, and my real question that would determine which I choose.. our vibrants had REAL potential. No less than the new phone should have, just lesser hardware. All of the sgs1 us versions seem to have no support or updates except what you find on here(after a few months).
Will the hercules have the same fate? Is there any reason to believe they won't do the same thing again? I don't want to spend another 500+ on a device they forget about a few months after they release it. Would you take the chance seeing their track record with our phone and variants?
The most odd thing is that the international versions seem to be better supported(the i9100 more than i9000), so is the problem that they don't want to waste their resources keeping 4 different models of the phone updated in the US? And could they possibly keep the hardware on the us variants close enough spec wise that they could work on an upgrade for all versions, and just tweak each for specific devices?
I know there are no solid answers out there, but I am more wondering what the community here thinks.
Most likely not this happened do to the SGS4G came out if something similar happens again but you know that is why there is xda an the cyanogen team so don't worry
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Not sure what the guy above wrote, but yes it will happen again. I dont think its sammys fault completly. More so the US carriers. My next phone will either be a nexus/htc/motoroogle.
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Yes it will most likely happen again. It's the carrier's business model. They want you to shell out the money to buy the newer phone so they only support the older model for so long. Get a Nexus phone if you want updates faster.
From what I have read this far the sg2 will be replaced by the sg2 plus to match the nexus prime's screen resolution. Because of that fact I will not buy sg2 as well the nexus phone will be the last sammy phone because google just acquired motorola. So the next google phone will be a motorola.
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jneal9 said:
Yes it will most likely happen again. It's the carrier's business model. They want you to shell out the money to buy the newer phone so they only support the older model for so long. Get a Nexus phone if you want updates faster.
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Well the nexus got updates quicker and I constantly see(via news readers) most phones getting updates regardless of carrier.
What the jasonhunterx said(that I could understand) about having xda or cyanogen is opposite of ideal.. where would our devices be if we got a source from Samsung for gingerbread? Miles ahead, everything working, less headaches for developers and users..
But I don't see this as something the carrier is responsible for unless the manufacturer made an agreement with them, which would border on crooked.
I would have bought the sgs2 if it wasn't with att bands.. and there's no promise that the prime will be offeres as a T-Mobile phone.
If the prime doesn't hit T-Mobile and the Hercules is doomed to make the same mistakes, what phone would you get to stay with tmo? Is there an international phone that has the right bands and can compare to sgs2, Hercules, or prime?
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Yes it WILL happen. The right thing to do is just buy a nexus phone.
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Yes it WILL happen. The right thing to do is just buy a nexus phone.
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And if Samsung makes the prime? Or if tmo doesn't get the prime? That is the question.
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I believe that the Hercules will have much better support. In my opinion, just like the second poster said, they stopped supporting the vibrant because tmo launched its new "4g" service not too long after the vibrant dropped. So unless 5g comes out a week after the Hercules, I don't think we should have anything to worry about. I hope.......
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Of course its going to happen.
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Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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Yes 2.2 for vibrant is stable but there are some Apps that can only be use when you're using gingerbread.
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Yes 2.2 for vibrant is stable but there are some Apps that can only be use when you're using gingerbread.
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There's like 2 of those
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kaintfm said:
Here is a position I just don't understand. I won't call it whining. Lets say the constant negative portrayal of the Galaxy S line, Samsung, and every other phone manufacturer at one time or another as not supporting or updating their software often enough.
If you look at it objectively, does the Vibrant really need an update? It came out with Eclair. Then came the upgrade to Froyo, which raised Quadrant scores (if you care about that sort of thing) four fold. Finally, the incremental upgrades through Froyo from J all the way to KB5. KB5 is rock-solid stable and fast in its stock form, and even better when customized.
So why all the complaining? The phone is fast and stable. I don't hear anyone complaining about Team Whiskey's Bionix 1.3.1 even though they haven't updated it in many months. Why? Because it's fine as is. So, in my opinion, is the Vibrant.
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There are phones running 1.5 stable, but that isn't a reason it shouldn't be upgraded to whatever it can run. Take the Motorola droid. I have no idea what they updated to, but the og droid has run cyanogen stable far before our vibrant could run it at all. It is a solid phone, and wasn't "discarded" by the manufacturer soon after the release. They did a good job I heard.
The sgs1 branded phone is capable of more than the current generation of android. The iphone, with all the things I don't like about the way they do their phones, supports multiple generations of their products for multiple years. Our phones shouldn't be 2 generations of os behind with no real hope of an upgrade within a year of coming out.
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pretty sure yes, so if u want a SGS II get the "international' version
for me NO MORE US VERSION of any Samsung phone
I think the Hercules will be the lower of the other sgs2 variants nothing will be easy just as the vibrant was full of great dev but nothing to work with but the same stuff. GB has came a long way we thought that was going to be a easy port, lol I really hope they at least get the gps right on the sgs2 this run. End of rant ;-)
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I say look at track record.
Behold->Vibrant-> hercules. It just goes to show, if you want something done, you just have to do it yourself. I mean really, I just rooted lg vortex, from two years ago that had 2.2.2
Beware of angry gingerbread man
adamcooks said:
I say look at track record.
Behold->Vibrant-> hercules. It just goes to show, if you want something done, you just have to do it yourself. I mean really, I just rooted lg vortex, from two years ago that had 2.2.2
Beware of angry gingerbread man
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2nd this. Same ol from Samsung/T-Mobile. Going HTC prime or iphone next round.
Yes i am quite sure that these phones will not get the support that the unbranded version will get...
A company like Apple has a tough time supporting a couple of devices then just imagine how difficult it is for samsung to provide great support for the 50-60 phones it dishes out every year
No support for Hercules. It's Vibrant/Galaxy S 1 all over again. Each of the carriers releasing a different variant of a phone that was released months ago in Europe. You'd be crazy to buy a Hercules or other SGS2 phone. Just what was the reason for the delay? Carrier customizations, more than likely. And the fact that it took them so long to release the US variants does not speak well for future updates.
Interesting. Still NO LTE?! :-/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...he-Atrix-2-photos-leak-specs-revealed_id22280
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So, 3 megapixels is a worthy upgrade?
Don't get your hopes up over leaked information. Nothing is official until it comes straight from the source.
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Don't get your hopes up over leaked information. Nothing is official until it comes straight from the source.
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I doubt, (even if it will exist) it will become the "Atrix 2". The Atrix has been out only 7 months (maybe 6?) and it's essentially the same phone with an extra 3 megapixels :/. What would be the point of this phone as a successor?
Atrix Upgrade
The new phone with have a faster 1.2 or 1.5 ghz processor, a larger 4.3 or 4.5" screen, curved edges on the screen, and better camera, and higher video rate.
I dont think this is the time to upgrade since its been announced that quad core phones as fast as 2.5 ghz will be released by xmas. So if you do upgrade now you will be upgrading again shortly. The android market is moving very fast.
Also Gingerbread is running nicely and I am happy with my phone.
Bigger screen, faster processor are upgrades I want. But I would also like my next phone to have a FM radio receiver. The Atrix has one but it does not work. The other exotic upgrade I would like to have is a built in TV receiver. A company in S Korea released a phone with a TV receiver in it but I have not seen it yet. That would certainly be an exotic upgrade and it could be a while before one is released here in the USA.
I also look forward to Ice Cream Sandwich but wil wait for the OTA release of that which officially be in November.
Not even an upgrade to be worthy as the ATRIX successor. More pixels, higher clocked chip, most likely a larger screen....ill pass and stay with my current oc'd ATRIX
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No LTE for what I'm sure will be Motorola's new "flagship" phone like the original Atrix was.... fail. After experiencing Motoblur, in all its glory, Im going Nexus route when the Prime comes out... pure Google experience appeals to me more than webtop or fingerprint scanner, neither of which I even use any more.
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No LTE for what I'm sure will be Motorola's new "flagship" phone like the original Atrix was.... fail. After experiencing Motoblur, in all its glory, Im going Nexus route when the Prime comes out... pure Google experience appeals to me more than webtop or fingerprint scanner, neither of which I even use any more.
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I agree with you 100% I am definitely getting the next Google phone.
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No LTE for what I'm sure will be Motorola's new "flagship" phone like the original Atrix was.... fail. After experiencing Motoblur, in all its glory, Im going Nexus route when the Prime comes out... pure Google experience appeals to me more than webtop or fingerprint scanner, neither of which I even use any more.
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I don't see a 8mp camera as an upgrade. Just because its 3 more mp doesn't mean it's better picture quality, actually it's usually worse.
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I shared my thoughts on the Atrix 2 here: http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-2-upgraded-with-lte-photos
Why is there a 4G icon with signal blips? AT&T and Moto use the "H+" for HSPA+. Maybe this thing will have LTE after all is said and done. It is most definitely discouraging to hear "no LTE," though.
I didn't see a fingerprint sensor... so if I'm correct and there isn't one, that would mean the only upgrade is the camera. No wonder Google bought Motorola Mobility, I wouldn't want a company like that representing the Android brand :/
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I doubt, (even if it will exist) it will become the "Atrix 2". The Atrix has been out only 7 months (maybe 6?) and it's essentially the same phone with an extra 3 megapixels :/. What would be the point of this phone as a successor?
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If the processor specs are for real than they actually aren't close to same...
Have you guys seen what motorola does over on Verizon for its droids? DROID 1 DROID 2 and DROID 3 are all incremental updates. DROID x to DROID x2 as well. Why wouldn't Moto make a slightly different phone and call it new? Every phone manufacturer does this from Htc to Motorola to Apple.
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All you have to do is look at nvidia's "Roadmap" of the tegra chips to see whats happening with them and what their plans are. Here is a link so you can see for yourselves, http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/02/teg...-chip-worlds-first-quadcore-mobile-processor/ Anyway looking like you upgrade in 2012 than 2013 etc considering according to their roadmap they have new stuff coming every year up to 2014. Regardless though if it is a supposed "Atrix 2" seems sorta pointless considering what we can already do with a rooted unlock Atrix granted not like your layman would know any different.
Is it just me. Or is there no fingerprint reader?
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Unless AT&T gets friendlier with its data limits (even soft caps) LTE doesn't excite me that much...
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This is what im growing tired of, lol the atrix isnt even old, yet they are gonna release number 2 this year, lol with a slight increase in specs, ..
too many damn phones out..lol cant even keep up, unless you have deep pockets,,
I have a infuse and atrix. those will keep me busy through the new year.. hell even my old dinc still has plenty of horsepower left.. even though its migrated to my 13 yr old for games, lol
Atrix 2 probably lacks unlocked bootloader. Pass.
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The Atrix was a pretty big leap in terms of mobile technology when it came out and is still extremely competitive with other Dual Core phones especially with the custom ROM's.
My thoughts should be that the Atrix 2 should be released when it makes another big jump in terms of technology, not miniscule upgrades.
Well, today, the Galaxy S 2 AT&t got official ICS 4.0.3; a mere 8 months after its release, while we still have at least 3 more months before ICS is official and our phone has been out for over 16 months. Something smells fishy to me.
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And cue the "pile on Motorola even though we don't have any concrete evidence" bandwagon in 5...4...3...
Where's my downvote button?
NEVER buy a phone for upgradability purposes. You'll more than likely get burned.
Go ahead and jump to touchwiz then. Stop making rant posts.
I'd rather wait for the new stockblur look and still enjoy my phone.
93% of android devices are still not on ICS yet life goes on.....
Phone already does everything I needed it to. By the time ICS comes out there will be Jelly Bean devices coming out anyway.....
Different phones get upgraded at different rates. The Atrix saw a lot of updates in the first few months. The updates from Motorola may have slowed down but the updates from CM and other ROM devs haven't. There's plenty of life in the ol' beast yet.
Check out Jokersax' CM9. A few things aren't quite there yet, but if you work around them you'll have a near-full functioning CM9. Once ICS is official the few remaining driver issues should be worked out.
My moms Android still has Froyo.
You will NEVER win when it comes to cell phones. Or with any electronics.
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andrew.cambridge said:
My moms Android still has Froyo.
You will NEVER win when it comes to cell phones. Or with any electronics.
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Same with my Dad's XPRT. Trapped on Froyo right now. But unlike the Atrix, the XPRT has pretty much no developer community.
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Where's my downvote button?
NEVER buy a phone for upgradability purposes. You'll more than likely get burned.
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That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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Well guys seems like the Droid Bionic which has ICS slated for update Q3 along with our beloved Atrix 4G already has a leaked version out.
Below is tinyurl I can't post links yet due to forum rules.
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Sass86 said:
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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I tend to agree with this sentiment. It's the whole voting with your wallet thing. Unfortunately it's partially subjective. As I said the Atrix got several updates right out of the gate. The Xoom has been quick to get updates. From what I've seen Motorola is one of the top manufacturers from an update perspective.
But like others they do lag behind the Nexus line and they definitely lag behind all the developers out there (and here).
Remember that many of us purchased the Atrix on hardware specs hoping that there would be updates. At the time it was released dual-core phones were unheard of.
Fast updates are one of the things you risk giving up when you go the subsidized route. What you lose in updates you tend to gain in hardware and cost efficiency. The best route if you want fast updates is to move to the Nexus line. You'll spend more buying a new phone at full cost every year or two but you'll get updates a hell of a lot faster and end up with a stock device.
Sass86 said:
That's wrong. When purchasing a smartphone you SHOULD receive updates. We the consumer decide how we should be treated by the manufacturer. If a company doesn't provide updates then don't buy their merchandise. Also all manufacturers have agreed to maybe update for 18 months lol stick with the companies that actually deliver.
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In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are different.
Go to a different manufacturer. The only one that consistently hasn't had this problem is Apple.
Atrix came out before that 18-month agreement was made.
stewartsoda said:
In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they are different.
Go to a different manufacturer. The only one that consistently hasn't had this problem is Apple.
Atrix came out before that 18-month agreement was made.
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Apple only has to developed for 3 phones (as of right now). All the other phone companies keep crapping out phones 4 times a month trying to outdo each other.
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Moto
I wonder when my Backflip is getting ICS. I keep checking the Moto upgrade site each day!!!! I hear that there is a leaked beta out.
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Apple only has to developed for 3 phones (as of right now). All the other phone companies keep crapping out phones 4 times a month trying to outdo each other.
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It's true, Apple is only supporting three very similar phones right now. But they have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software, albeit with reduced features sometimes.
As for other manufacturers, I'm reminded of the bad old days of badge-engineering with cars. Chrysler and their K-cars are a prime example. It reflects a "we build crap but we sure sell a lot of crap" mindset.
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It's true, Apple is only supporting three very similar phones right now. But they have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software, albeit with reduced features sometimes.
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"They [Apple] have been very good about keeping devices on the latest released software"... that they make, they announce, and they release.
Of course Apple products are on the latest software that they create and don't release until it works on their own products...
Motorola is fine. It's just nvidia sucks.
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May I ask you, who desperately waiting for update, what you are waiting for? What exactly is missing in GB? I know features of ICS but to be honest, nothing so special that we can not live without.
And yes, blame nVidia more than Motorola.
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And yes, blame nVidia more than Motorola.
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Deggy said:
Motorola is fine. It's just nvidia sucks.
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That's not true even the Droid razr didn't get ics update yet
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I guess the lesson here is that if you are not a Verizon customer, don't buy a Motorola product. Otherwise, you are treated like a booger...nice and shiny that gets lot of attention for a minute, and then flicked away and forgotten. Even though the Razor Nexus is a rumor, I think it will become a reality in the near future.
Oh yea, the other lesson here, don't always believe everything Motorola says. haha
http://www.examiner.com/article/report-motorola-will-make-next-google-nexus-smartphone
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
this is highly beleievable to be honest :good:
seeing as google own motorola, all you have to do is put 2 and 2 together really lol they gain extra profit without having to share the profit with the phone manufacturer because they are the phone manufacturing as well as software manufacturer lol
This is highly unlickly. The next Nexus is going to be made by LG, not Motorola. Motorola MAY make the Nexus 5, if it ever comes out.
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djluis48 said:
This is highly unlickly. The next Nexus is going to be made by LG, not Motorola. Motorola MAY make the Nexus 5, if it ever comes out.
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Don't forget, rumour has it that there will be multiple Nexus devices coming out. We still won't know till they reveal them in a few days time at the event. So let's just have our fingers crossed that there are more choices for our devices (although I'll still ignore a Nexus from Motorola, they treat us customers like ****)
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Don't forget, rumour has it that there will be multiple Nexus devices coming out. We still won't know till they reveal them in a few days time at the event. So let's just have our fingers crossed that there are more choices for our devices (although I'll still ignore a Nexus from Motorola, they treat us customers like ****)
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That turned out to just be one elaborate hoax, the guy/gal who started it came forward. No multiple nexus phones, theme centre and so on.
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I'd consider that. I'm happy with the hardware. That whole ICS cocktease was absurd tho.
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No more Moto for me. Hardware is fine but update support is minor.
but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps
attrixnor said:
but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps
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The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.
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The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.
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There are a couple of reasons to upgrade to ICS/JB. One is security. There are enhancements (such as ASLR) which make it much more difficult for hackers to run their own code on your phone. The other is usability. ICS and JB is just way more usable IMO. The UI is clean, and requires less taps to get to common functions. I stayed on GB for a while, tried ICS and though, meh. But JB was a huge jump in maturity in the OS.
attrixnor said:
but is there a really interest to go to ICS or JB ???
does the actual GB rom isn't suffiiciant for a while ?
i think there is a lot of app that work on atrix and GB so why go to ICS or GB ? UI , software update , ergonomy ? but in fact what's new ?
i'm a linux user not android for now ... soon, with atrix perhaps
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To expand on the previous post. There are many security flaws in GB. Look ho often desk tops are updated to close possible exploits. With smart phones becoming ever more popular they are coming under increasing threats. JB fixes many of the possible exploits. My phone contains most of my personal data including banking information. I want to keep that data safe.
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CaelanT said:
The issue isn't so much that ICS/JB is any better than GB.................it's more that it was promised and indicated on the Moto website, then the support was pulled for this development. They should have communicated more with the customers, and been honest about the plans for the future. Instead they have ended up losing a lot of consumers who would have been loyal had they not reneged on their promises.
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^ Plus on top of that they started us with Froyo, when GB was already out.
The only "real" support the Atrix ever got was when BL Unlock got leaked.
I find it funny that the devs here made Motorola's team look like a bunch of chimps...
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ccrows said:
^ Plus on top of that they started us with Froyo, when GB was already out.
The only "real" support the Atrix ever got was when BL Unlock got leaked.
I find it funny that the devs here made Motorola's team look like a bunch of chimps...
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Motorola's dev are not bad at all. Motorola Management is.
if motorola dev read us pretty sure , please post the new kernel for ics ....a gift for christmas :highfive:
go back to earth
xda dev work hard on new lg kernel i think ... it's our only way
ticiano_arraes said:
Motorola's dev are not bad at all. Motorola Management is.
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*Thinks about Motoblur for a second*
Gotta disagree...
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grevedan said:
There are a couple of reasons to upgrade to ICS/JB. One is security. There are enhancements (such as ASLR) which make it much more difficult for hackers to run their own code on your phone. The other is usability. ICS and JB is just way more usable IMO. The UI is clean, and requires less taps to get to common functions. I stayed on GB for a while, tried ICS and though, meh. But JB was a huge jump in maturity in the OS.
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But, what I see as the major beef from the majority of people is nothing more than the fact they didn't get the update. Most people, including those who frequent the XDA (Atrix) forums here, couldn't tell you what is different other than to say UI, face unlock, and kernel.
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*Thinks about Motoblur for a second*
Gotta disagree...
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You don't seem to realize just how much influence the management can have over development.
I'm also a full-time developer so I know.
Rarz nexus hohoh
always the same appearance of the Razr, never innovates