Well the vibrant plus had been announced.
- T-mo's 4G
- FFC
- Froyo
and more I'm sure.
So maybe the Nexus S2 rumors are true.
I have a feeling Samsung is pushing updated phones too quick. At least wait a year.
I further explain myself here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10540297&postcount=15
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That was a rumor, already dismissed.
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There's not much they can actually add other than an SD slot 4g and maybe the new samoled plus. if I was a vibrant owner I'd be extremely pissed to hear about this though. Its not right to do customers like that but they don't care they just see the $$$$
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That was a rumor, already dismissed.
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Well in that case never mind lol
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If they do that ill go rage mode
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Didn't realize it was dismissed already.
But I guess the only thing keeping the from releasing another nexus would be Google. Unless Google felt the need to have a larger format dev phone like 4.3" screen, bring back HD video recording and possibly add a dual core processor.
Don't forget google already announced ice cream for this summer and the gingerbread isn't stale yet!
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here's the link to Vibrant 4G http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-vibrant-plus-will-offer-21-mbps-4g-speeds/ for anybody interested
Well its gonna run Touchwiz and Froyo. Samsung will probably take forever to update it to gingerbread. That's enough to keep me away. I could care less about 4g Since I never see those speeds
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Dont think this will happen to us, the Nexus S is not a feature phone
I'm sorry, but anyone who buys a Samsung-supported phone at this point deserves what they will inevitably get.
The Behold II and Galaxy S fiascos should be ample warning: Samsung will NOT support the software on a phone it releases in the USA. The Vibrant 4G will release with Froyo, and will reach end-of-life with Froyo, except for custom ROMS.
Kill TouchWiz already!
Is it really Samsung, or is it Tmobile that delays the updates; or a combination of both?
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I like the fact that the new Vibrant Plus has a 1650mAH battery and 4g
This is why you ALWAYS buy phones with the idea that it will be left for dead by the manufacturer as soon as you buy it (unless of course you have a Nexus )
Couldn't imagine how crappy old Vibrant owners who signed 2-year contracts must feel since most people imagine they will have their phone be relevant for at least a year but it's already a "dinosaur" in their eyes in a little less than 6 months
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I have a feeling Samsung is pushing updated phones too quick. At least wait a year.
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A year is a VERY long time in the smartphone ecosystem, unless you're in a closed system like the iPhone with only yourself to compete with.
I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
A lot of Vibrant owners pissed off because of this, but I'm not going to fault Samsung for releasing what's a pretty major upgrade (true HSPA+ and FFC) 6-10 months after the SGS line came out.
Adding SAMOLED Plus would have made it less upsetting to most, I suspect.
I won't give Sammy a pass on the lack of Froyo progress on US model Galaxy S phones, though. They obviously have it (i9000 does, as does this); but is it possible their carrier partners are the problem here?
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Couldn't imagine how crappy old Vibrant owners who signed 2-year contracts must feel since most people imagine they will have their phone be relevant for at least a year but it's already a "dinosaur" in their eyes in a little less than 6 months
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Seriously?
C'mon, the Vibrant is still "relevant" and anything but a "dinosaur". It's still got one of the best screen technologies out there, a damn good GPU and CPU, 16gb internal and external sd cards, supports 7.2Mbs. Most non-XDA-member types will still love that phone for quite some time to come.
My point in all of this was Samsung denied that they were making a nexus 2 phone up until two weeks before release and dropped that they are making the nexus s; very clever.
Just like there were early rumors of vibrant plus and those were dismissed then at the end of CES it is announced.
So there have been rumors of a nexus s2 and I guess those have been dismissed as well unless they are are going to drop 2 weeks before google's release of "ice cream" a nexus s "plus". Speculative, I know but it fits the MO of Samsung and Google - short ly (apx 6mos.) after the mytouch was made into a dev phone the nexus one was announced with android 2.2. Maybe with the rapid rise of dual core phones and larger screens; google and samsung will want a dev phone this summer that will provide these options (dual core and larger screen) for devs to design HQ games and apps on. Because lets face it Apple iOS is one up on android because the quality games and that is it. Sony is releasing this year a PSP android gaming phone so I can only imagine google wanting their dev phones to start computing in that area as well.
G1 dev phone released Dec 2008
Mytouch "magic" ion dev released phone Aug 2009
(6 months span)
Nexus One dev phone released Jan 2010
Nexus S dev phone released Dec 2010
( ~ 6 months span)
Nexus S "plus" maybe in June/July 2011? marketing wise would take some steam out of apple's typical iphone release date.
Can't deny that there is some indicators of a possible marketing pattern.
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Yes... Seriously
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Yes... Seriously
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Someone needs a reality check...
EVERY phone you buy is irrelevant within a matter of months, if not weeks by the standards you seem to be applying.
I would never buy a Touchwiz phone. Ever. Straight garbage.
Stock or HTC Sense. That's it. Everything else sucks, IMO.
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I would never buy a Touchwiz phone. Ever. Straight garbage.
Stock or HTC Sense. That's it. Everything else sucks, IMO.
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Nexus S is not a touchwiz phone. The primary reason of thread was to create a discussion whether or not people saw the viability of another nexus product releasing in 6 mos.
If interested please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10540297&postcount=15
The way i see it, is they will NOT do this to the Nexus S, there isnt enough profit in it for them
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Samsung sent its base 2.2 upgrade to T-Mobile in late November
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According to wikipedia "On 20 May 2010, the 2.2 (Froyo) SDK was released." Thats about 6 months for Samsung. Not too bad in my opinion. Def hate t-mobile though, always will. lol.
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Citations:
November citation: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376045,00.asp
froyo release date: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Update_history
YES, still never purchasing another Samsung product.
Oddly I'm the opposite of the OP. I've been with T-Mo for 11+ years and been pretty happy with them overall. Having had HTC phones in the past, I will probably look at their next offering when I'm eligible for an update. While I love that the Vibrant has been so easy to mod, they've left a bad taste in my mouth.
Don't hate them, but I will most likely not be buying anything from them again.
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I do still hate them. I don't actually have froyo yet so they are still lying lol.
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Yeah i dont hate them but I will probably not buy another phone from them. I am eyeballing the LG Optimus 2X....
Of course I do, I don't have official froyo, so there still BSing ;]
Anywho, I don't like Tmobile, Samsung is Alright.
I wouldn't buy another Samsung phone that left them solely in charge of the updates. I actually do like T-Mobile though. Don't mind the 5gb cap either since I've began only using wifi in my appartment my usage has gone down from nearly 6gb a month to around 1gb.
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I feel like they were mostly wrong about the gps. They should of came out and said they made a mistake and did a recall. Not to compare Apples to Oranges, but when Apple had the antenna problem at least they found a solution and gave out free bumpers/cases to help the issue. Samsung till this day has never said anything about the gps, at least not to my knowledge. Then they brag about how the Galaxy S line is such a success in sales, but we're just about the only high end Android device that's not on 2.2. It does not make sense to me. I definitely must say that I love the hardware minus the gps.
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According to wikipedia "On 20 May 2010, the 2.2 (Froyo) SDK was released." Thats about 6 months for Samsung. Not too bad in my opinion. Def hate t-mobile though, always will. lol.
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So you cite wikipedia for your Froyo information, but you don't cite the original quote in the thread?
Citation pls.
I don't hate Samsung, I just don't trust them - Just look at their track record. Will look hard at HTC or Moto at upgrade time - Depends on what is out but Samsung products will be out of the question. Once bitten, twice shy...
Been with T-Mo a long time - Have a sweet deal on my plan for 4 phones...
No source code for anything yet = still hate Samsung.
I do not trust Samsung and do not intend to purchase them again. I will be leaning toward the LG Optimus 2X or the LG Black. The only way I would want to buy Samsung again is if they have a dual core Nexus S2 with vanilla android and external sd card and Google is in charge of the updates etc. I am also very interested in the LG 4G tablet coming to T Mobile.
I guess I'm in the minority -- I have no issues w/Samsung and have been pretty happy w/my Vibrant. Yes, 2.2 has taken an awfully long time...but I always knew I could flash it if I really wanted/needed something in 2.2 -- and ultimately, I did.
Seems to me the only phones that don't go through this are the official dev phones (Nexus); why, I still remember when T-Mobile was hinting that 2.x would come to the G1.
I would definitely buy another Samsung.
Will never buy another Samsung phone. Love T-Mobile though. Next phone will be an HTC.
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I feel like they were mostly wrong about the gps. They should of came out and said they made a mistake and did a recall. Not to compare Apples to Oranges, but when Apple had the antenna problem at least they found a solution and gave out free bumpers/cases to help the issue. Samsung till this day has never said anything about the gps, at least not to my knowledge. Then they brag about how the Galaxy S line is such a success in sales, but we're just about the only high end Android device that's not on 2.2. It does not make sense to me. I definitely must say that I love the hardware minus the gps.
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Um sorry sir you are sadly mistaken, Apple used the bumpers as a cover up. Don't get me wrong i love Apple but they said there was nothing wrong with their antennas as well. So they are just as "wrong as samsung"
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I won't be buying another Samsung phone, even if the next one comes with a 10MP Camera, 1.4GHz Processor, 1GB of RAM and a 4.5" screen. I don't trust them anymore. I also have mixed feelings about T-Mobile.. I've been with them for 7 years...
Still hate samsung even if we go receive 2.2, I WILL NEVER PURCHASE ANOTHER SAMSUNG PHONE!!
I used to hate Samsung, but their smartphone hardware is great (AMOLED baby!).
NS is one of my favorite phone and it has Samsung hardware with Google software.
never have/ will hate them.
They just disappointed me. thats all, but im sure they made it up by this update...
I ask this question as a current Vibrant owner from the day it came out. I have seen all that Samsung has done with its first line of Galaxy S phones and so I'm not sure if all the new technology is going to be worth the upcoming headaches. Its easier to get a working ROM from the community rather than deal with official Samsung updates.
If you feel the same way I do, do you feel like the Vibrant is the last Samsung device you'll ever buy?
I'm just curious and it might help me make a decision on buying any upcoming devices from Samsung. Also since I've learned that the new Sidekick is going to be a Samsung device, I'm already depressed about that one.
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If you feel the same way I do, do you feel like the Vibrant is the last Samsung device you'll ever buy?
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I will definitely be upgrading if possible. I love the vibrant, but I'm not sure if it will ever see 2.4. I remember reading somewhere that 2.4 will utilize hardware acceleration for the ui, I'm really looking forward to that.
This will be my next phone love the phone............
I'm currently trying to decide if I am going to upgrade to it or hold off for something else. I think it just depends on what else comes out at MWC and when the release date will be on the S II.
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It's between this and HDdesire2 similar specs HTC doesn't seem to have a ffc.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
http://galaxys2.samsungmobile.com/html/specification.html
I bought the galaxy s cause it had the most powerful cpu in the bunch + screen. The s2 = better screen + 1gb ram + dual core processor that's better than the hummingbird and the mali400 gpu is way better than current sgx540. Overall, it'll be the most powerful device in terms of hardware, i'll find some way to afford one!!
But yes, i'm pissed about the updates, wish they'd just release the source for everything and let the community do it if they don't want to.
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It's not about buying it or not. That's a sure buy for me.
It's about when it'll be available on the T-Mo network. T-Mobile has its own 3G frequency(1700?) making buying a smartphone without this feature(i.e., that's not OEMed for T-Mo) a hard decision.
Im buying the first HSPA+, 4.3 inch Android phone T-Mo puts out. If this is it then ill be upgrading to this.
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I don't know... it is going to be sooooo expensive unless they subsidize it on T-Mo. Right now you can get a decent Vibrant off craigslist for $250 off contract. That's pretty unbeatable. I doubt I'll be getting one of these for at least a year.
i prob wont end up getting it, samsung ruined their phones for me!
My next phone. Perfect timing with tax time
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Thank you community! Your input is very helpful. I guess time will tell when it has a tmo version. If it costs to much then no, if the price is right then Yes! or I just get the sidekick as im getting sick and tired of this virtual keyboard lol.
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Never again. Fed up with Samsung and their wannabe-software.
Concentrate on what you know; hardware.
Im kind of up in the air...cool comes with 2.3 but 2.3 isn't that great that's why 2.4 is out in couple months to fix what issues 2.3 has and to add features 2.3 should have had if it wasn't rushed.
So who knows when it will get 2.4
If i do decided to get im getting a real galaxy s 2 and not from carrier one thing to wait from Samsung another to wait for tmobile on top of it
Depends on what HTC has available on T-Mobile, if somehow HTC puts out a competing phone it will be a tossup, but will come down to the screen size and how well SLCD holds up against SAMOLED
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If i do decided to get im getting a real galaxy s 2 and not from carrier one thing to wait from Samsung another to wait for tmobile on top of it
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My sentiments exactly. Straight from Sammy or no thank you.
Wow have you guys seen this video? Seems very laggy - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-official-tegra-2-4-3-inch-super-amoled-plu/
Getting a Windows Phone. Tired of dealing with manufacturer skins or crippled Nexus phones (i.e. Nexus S).
Also, why do people put up with the high rate at which Android Manufacturers cannibalize their devices.
Vibrant 4G may have good download speeds but who will want it if T-Mobile gets a Galaxy S II Variant - the same way some people are getting Nexus S due to the Vibrant's issues?
That's 4 new phones announced since the Vibrant was released... 6 months or so? And I'm ignoring it's sister phones on the ohter 3 major carriers and phones like the Continuum on Verizon...
It's hard for these non-Nexus devices to keep value when manufacturers are releasing new phones at such breakneck paces, and it makes it hard to commit to purchasing anything, since the chances of a better phone being released so soon is so high.
There's a reason why iPhones and even Windows phones are selling for more on eBay and CL than even high end Android phones...
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Wow have you guys seen this video? Seems very laggy - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-official-tegra-2-4-3-inch-super-amoled-plu/
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Par for the course...
The fanbois are running out of excuses. I wonder if they'll claim Android isn't optimized for Tegra II this time, like they did with the Hummingbird.
The issue was always Samsung's RFS and crappy TouchWiz. Why buy something with TouchWiz on it, and I wouldn't rule out RFS, either...
Also, is it just me or does that phone have some odd choices of pre-loaded applications... Vlingo, for example...
Looks like an iPhone 4, though.
I really wish they would get rid of the chrome and round out the phone little
like the NS but still looks nice
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Par for the course...
The fanbois are running out of excuses. I wonder if they'll claim Android isn't optimized for Tegra II this time, like they did with the Hummingbird.
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Tegra 2 guess was a typo its supposed to come with Samsung Exynos
either way 2.3 isn't even optimized for dualcore 2.4 is suppose to be
Ok, so I have a dilemma. At first, when sprint announced the EVO 3D, to me, there was no question I would get it. After HTC announced a locked bootloader (? clarification on what exactly is locked), I am asking this question. What is better, a stock (worst case scenario) Evo 3D, or a modified Nexus S? I know modifications make a HUGE difference (just ask my HTC Hero ) as far as performance goes, so the simple question is, what would perform better? Gaming is a huge factor for me too-- which is the better gaming device (I actually heard the nexus s has a better video card so I might have my question answered already)?
And obviously, the 3D is garbage to me, so don't take that into consideration. The only thing I hate about the Nexus S that has a draw on the EVO 3D is the 1080p vs SD on the Nexus (which is crazy). If there was even a 720p video capability on the nexus (hopefully by a hack) then I would be content with that.
TIA and sorry if this is a really dumb question!
although the nexus s isnt 720p, the vid/pics are actually quite good. and in all honesty, the "720p" on the evo's 8mp was straight garbage. basically the only real advantage the evo has is the dual core.
also, if u do plan on the ns4g, check out wirefly. they have a special right now, $99 on new contract, $149 on upgrade. no activation/shipping/taxes!
My upgrade isn't until July 1st so i'll have some time before I get my upgrade. As far as the processor goes, which is the real major difference, how much better "real world" performance will the evo3D get over the Nexus S (not meaning benchmarks)?
honestly who says it will? qualcomm "showboated" a 1.5ghz dual core cpu with the new adreno 220 in the gl benchmark, it got only 11 fps better then the stock nexus s. why do i say only? a brand new gpu, a dual core 1.5ghz vs a 1ghz cpu and what many consider outdated hardware, and it only got 11 fps. the evo3d is supposed ot have a 1.2ghz version of this chipset, so even lower performance (stock mind you.. if they hack it it will increase obviously). want more proof that the nexus s is still rockin? go to glbenchmark.com and look at the top devices, the ipad 2 (sgx543) is the top of the list, meanwhile the nexus s is number 5 (SGX540) as the top PHONE (all other devices are tablets).
i dont even consider the evo3d an upgrade for the price they are gunna want for it, meanwhile if you want raw power, best just wait for the samsung galaxy s 2. its been kickin in a lot of doors and take'in a whole lot more names
I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Even after the 3d evo comes out I think the super amoled screen and official Google support will continue to make the nexus s a compelling device.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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I used the Evo since August so for probably about 8 months or so and I just switched to the ns4g with no hesitation and love it. On the Evo I used ADW launcher so I did not even have sense running so for me I got a better faster lighter phone. It was a no-brainer in my opinion and I like the "pure Google experience". I also have two friends that went from the Evo to ns4g and they feel the same. I say take the ns.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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Well I actually have a GB rom on my hero (thats why it's running so much smoother) and I love the vanilla GB look. I can't stand sense, so from a UI standpoint, I already prefer NS>>>E3D
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I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Wouldnt that be the beauty in Android and what makes it what it is? The customization and the limitless options available. The way it can be tailor fitted for the end user? Ultimately isnt that one of the things we love so much about it?
Well...thats why I like it anyway...
You're in limbo......that sucks. What is that, four levels down or five?
Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well, if I feel like I'm upgrading every time I flash (which on my hero, seemingly every flash has been a speed boost), then I'm not opposed to it at all.
On a side note, my brother has his upgrade right now, and he is in town this weekend and I am supposed to help him pick out a phone. I'm gonna try to convince him that the Nexus S is worth the $150 over the LG optimus S, which he thinks he wants cause it's free (waste of an upgrade imo [he's upgrading from a palm that is like 2 years old, so actually, anything is about an upgrade]).
My question to you guys, that will hopefully solve mine and his problem. How is the Nexus S as a two year phone? How well do you think it will hold up down the road? I'm not the kind of guy who can afford to buy a new phone out of contract (paying full price), being a college student, but come upgrade time, I am willing to dish out $200+ (but not much more) on a phone that I will be happy with for 2 years. I know that may seem like a lot to ask for with technology, and it's probably a lot to ask for you guys to predict the future too lol. So, do you think the Nexus S will be dead 2 years from now (when my upgrade following then next upgrade is)? Considering the phone will have been out for 2 and a half years plus, I am wondering this question...
I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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the nexus 1 is still getting official updates, and even then after that. look how long your hero lasted due to the community, you really think that NO ONE will be making anything for it? at the very least it will have cm support for a while.
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I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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Are you thinking about returning it because of the EVO, or is there something about the Nexus S that you don't like? Just curious to hear your opinion.
I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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I would bank on the nexus s to be the way to go. I think carriers and handset makers make new phones outdated themselves (software wise) so they can keep pushing out new phones with the newer software to make more money. Eventually the phone in question will receive an update if they choose to do so maybe 2 months, 6 months, or even a year later. This is why I usually keep getting new phones, just to keep up on the latest software without having to flash all the time dealing with instability and bugs. The nexus line will always get these updates straight from Google with no BS. The nexus specs aren't bad and its fast enough for me. Dual core would be nice but you have to ask your self is it really even needed. The nexus will be up to date for a while I assume with no strings attatched.
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Well what made me go Nexus was two phones. The Samsung Moment and Samsung Epic.
The Moment got crap for support and not even sure to this day if a dev ever fixed the evdo lock ups and terrible GPS.
Then the epic with its crappy eclair gps. Then the delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed Froyo update. Which still had crap gps. That was later fixed. Sorta. The best was when they sent a rep to xda to calm down the pissed off users about the delayed Froyo upgrade we were promised in Nov. What made me jump was this phone already had Gingerbread and Netflix support and know Google wastes no time getting updates out. I love Samsungs hardware but their software division sucks. No more of that jazz.
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Ditto
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I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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no carrier crap = win
I thought i downgraded by giving up my Epic ,but this phone is fast no doubt.
Does anyone know if there is still any place that sells brand new GT-I9020T Nexus S phones?
Best buy
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and will that work on T-Mobile 3G? I see that it is listed as an AT&T phone
You have to pick the Tmobile one. They sell all 3.
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are you sure? I don't see the T-Mobile Nexus S listed on their site...
Try a Store!
traded an htc sensation for mine. no regrets
having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
wait seriously? how do you know?
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having trouble deciding between the Nexus S and the upcoming nexus prime.. the prime looks cool but 4.65 inch screen just seems impractical for a smartphone...
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4.65" is including the part for "buttons" since they will be on the screen as there aren't any physical keys. so technically it isn't 4.65"
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but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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but is it really not coming out anytime soon?
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Depends on your definition of "soon".
As of right now it looks like it will be released around November.
If you want a cynic's opinion, here it is: The Nexus S was old-hat before it was even released. The only benefit was the ease of unlocking and getting updates first, which sounds awesome until you realize that the initial versions of GB were massively buggy. I'd expect the same for ICS. Add to that the fact that HTC is making it so you can easily unlock all of their phones and the list of reasons why I would want one gets much, much shorter. Non-existent, in fact. I'm actively looking for a way to get my hands on a device with hardware that wasn't dated before the first model rolled off the line or wasn't succeeded months later by a phone with a key feature the original was lacking for a more than sub-par carrier. I've said it before, but to save you the trouble of reading it somewhere else, I should have learned my lesson about buying Samsung phones after the Epic 4g debacle but I didn't. I have now and I'll advise anyone against buying their POS devices.
what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
AllGamer said:
the prime is not going to be released any time soon
hope that helps
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I'd say before the end of the year is "soon"
melterx12 said:
what does gingerbread being buggy have to do with samsung?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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When did I say it did? Never? Yeah that's the answer to that. See there are things called 'lists' where you mention many things that are all related to one other topic but are not necessarily related to each other. Like a grocery list. See cereal and baby spinach are not related to each other but they are both things I need from the grocery store. Just like GB being buggy and my hatred for the way Samsung treats its customers are both reasons why I wouldn't want another nexus device but they are not related to each other. Does basic sentence structure make sense now?
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I think he was confused (as was I) by the fact that your conclusion didn't really follow from your argument. You complained about the phone being outdated and you complained about gingerbread being buggy and then you ended by concluding that you shouldn't have bought a Samsung phone. But everything you complained of was Google's doing.
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I just picked up an i9020t Nexus S knowing full well that the Nexus Prime is coming. You know why?
Refined Galaxy S hardware
Comfortable rounded edges (looking at you, captivate)
Great ROM support, with ICS on the horizon
Respectable battery life
Pretty freaking fast
So yeah, the phone's hardware is dated. However, the Nexus S is my favorite size and shape, and OC'ed to 1.2ghz with some speed hacks from different places, I can't even imagine wanting for more speed. Now, this is all my opinion, but you can land a Nexus S now for a reasonable price. So get one and have several happy months of hacking!
eBay
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It seems that Cyanogenmod will not be bringing their next generation (ICS) to the Vibrant. While I really like the Vibrant, perhaps it is time to think about moving on.
Are there any recommendations for where I should be looking. Here would be my considerations:
- I like the hardware features (screen size and resolution and 16GB memory)
- I want the phone to have full Cyanogenmod support
- Cyanogenmod support should include a good gps and battery life (both of which are shortcomings for the Vibrant)
- I need to stick with TMobile
- And, I don't want the phone to cost an arm and a leg
Any thoughts, ideas, advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Nexus. Nothing else needs to be said. But if it does not come to to tmobile, I would lean towards HTC, they seem to be able to at least update phones.
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I agree. Nexus should be #1 on your list if you want support and like the Vibrant. The HTC Amaze just came out on T-Mobile and has impressive hardware specs and is on the list from HTC to get the ICS update. It also has a 8MP camera with instant picture taking like the Nexus. I would imagine that Cyanogenmod will put out a mod for it. Though any new phones will need some time to see if CM will support it.
The Galaxy Nexus is a pentaband phone, so even if T-Mobile doesn't get it, it'll still run on their network. I normally tell people to get the phone that they like the best. Not everyone is an uber android geek. I told a buddy of mine to get the Droid Charge, he loves the thing. If he waited for the Galaxy Nexus, he'd be disappointed. It's personal preference.
It sounds like you like to tinker. People that like to tinker need a Nexus device because they'll always be the ones with the most support and the smoothest Android experience. I love my Vibrant, it was my first Android device. I'll probably always hold onto it as a backup phone with Stock Froyo + WiFi Calling, but in the future I'll most likely stick to Nexus devices.
Decide what you care about the most and less about hardware/appearance. If you want a custom experience more than what a manufacturer's android experience is, then go for a Nexus with optimized hardware. There are a lot of really nice, very cool phones out there but in terms of longevity of future up to date use, Nexus wins 10 times out of 10.
Also, I wouldn't buy a device based on the promise of updates. Carriers may intend to update a device, but several things can hinder that intention. In all reality, if an upgrade to ICS doesn't come until next August, well, what's the point? Remember, for a long time it looked like Samsung assumed that T-Mobile would want the Vibrant updated, and it didn't happen. There have several devices through the years that were suppose to be updated and never were. Always buy a phone for what it is, not what a carrier says it should be.
Regarding Galaxy Nexus being penta band, doesn't it mean only GSM is supported in 5 bands and not 3G? Why would Samsung build AWS band in a world phone for couple of carriers.
tmobil sgs2
What do you think of the T-Mobile sgs2? Will it get ice or will it end up being forgotten like the vibrant? Seems to me the T-Mobile sgs2 is more powerful than the nexus hardware wise
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Higher specs are irrelevant. I'm sure it needs them to push TouchWiz. There is one device ICS is optimized for, and that's the Galaxy Nexus.
1) It's not Samsung that will abandon the SGS, it's T-Mobile
2) If you chase spec sheets you'll be replacing devices every 3-6 months.
Also, manufacturers are going to want to want their frameworks on top of ICS. There's no reference point for how ICS will look or run with TouchWiz, Sense or Motoblur on top of it. You have to go with what you know, not what you think you can assume.
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Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
aliveu7 said:
Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
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Your advice is based on a "think" without any leak information of a virtual phone
nexus or tmobil sgs2! stay away from amaze
iPhone 5 will be my next device. too tempted by androids openness to play around with all the roms out there. iPhone will take that choice away and simplify things. also would play nicer with my Mac. my MacBook hates the vibrant it seems.
aliveu7 said:
Galaxy nexus is good. But I think The galaxy 3 is much better than it. G3 should be relese in Christmas season. i think..
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Christmas 2012 maybe.
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I read a USA today article and the Guy was using it and he said he was using it on T-Mobile and it also has att bands so its merger proof.
Amaze hands down.
TheSneakerWhore said:
Amaze hands down.
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Hate to step on your sneakers and have you try kill me but, at 250 and that's with a new contract 559 without ouch. Check out the forums not much support yet... S2 has more devs...
I want an HTC Sense phone.
Used AOSP, Touchwiz and MotoBlur....but never SENSE (except for on G1)
Maybe quad core
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Get a nexus s!!
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manus ferrera said:
I read a USA today article and the Guy was using it and he said he was using it on T-Mobile and it also has att bands so its merger proof.
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Lol u r smart
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nomadrider123 said:
Hate to step on your sneakers and have you try kill me but, at 250 and that's with a new contract 559 without ouch. Check out the forums not much support yet... S2 has more devs...
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way more devs! and cm7