Ok, so I have a dilemma. At first, when sprint announced the EVO 3D, to me, there was no question I would get it. After HTC announced a locked bootloader (? clarification on what exactly is locked), I am asking this question. What is better, a stock (worst case scenario) Evo 3D, or a modified Nexus S? I know modifications make a HUGE difference (just ask my HTC Hero ) as far as performance goes, so the simple question is, what would perform better? Gaming is a huge factor for me too-- which is the better gaming device (I actually heard the nexus s has a better video card so I might have my question answered already)?
And obviously, the 3D is garbage to me, so don't take that into consideration. The only thing I hate about the Nexus S that has a draw on the EVO 3D is the 1080p vs SD on the Nexus (which is crazy). If there was even a 720p video capability on the nexus (hopefully by a hack) then I would be content with that.
TIA and sorry if this is a really dumb question!
although the nexus s isnt 720p, the vid/pics are actually quite good. and in all honesty, the "720p" on the evo's 8mp was straight garbage. basically the only real advantage the evo has is the dual core.
also, if u do plan on the ns4g, check out wirefly. they have a special right now, $99 on new contract, $149 on upgrade. no activation/shipping/taxes!
My upgrade isn't until July 1st so i'll have some time before I get my upgrade. As far as the processor goes, which is the real major difference, how much better "real world" performance will the evo3D get over the Nexus S (not meaning benchmarks)?
honestly who says it will? qualcomm "showboated" a 1.5ghz dual core cpu with the new adreno 220 in the gl benchmark, it got only 11 fps better then the stock nexus s. why do i say only? a brand new gpu, a dual core 1.5ghz vs a 1ghz cpu and what many consider outdated hardware, and it only got 11 fps. the evo3d is supposed ot have a 1.2ghz version of this chipset, so even lower performance (stock mind you.. if they hack it it will increase obviously). want more proof that the nexus s is still rockin? go to glbenchmark.com and look at the top devices, the ipad 2 (sgx543) is the top of the list, meanwhile the nexus s is number 5 (SGX540) as the top PHONE (all other devices are tablets).
i dont even consider the evo3d an upgrade for the price they are gunna want for it, meanwhile if you want raw power, best just wait for the samsung galaxy s 2. its been kickin in a lot of doors and take'in a whole lot more names
I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Even after the 3d evo comes out I think the super amoled screen and official Google support will continue to make the nexus s a compelling device.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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I used the Evo since August so for probably about 8 months or so and I just switched to the ns4g with no hesitation and love it. On the Evo I used ADW launcher so I did not even have sense running so for me I got a better faster lighter phone. It was a no-brainer in my opinion and I like the "pure Google experience". I also have two friends that went from the Evo to ns4g and they feel the same. I say take the ns.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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Well I actually have a GB rom on my hero (thats why it's running so much smoother) and I love the vanilla GB look. I can't stand sense, so from a UI standpoint, I already prefer NS>>>E3D
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I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Wouldnt that be the beauty in Android and what makes it what it is? The customization and the limitless options available. The way it can be tailor fitted for the end user? Ultimately isnt that one of the things we love so much about it?
Well...thats why I like it anyway...
You're in limbo......that sucks. What is that, four levels down or five?
Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well, if I feel like I'm upgrading every time I flash (which on my hero, seemingly every flash has been a speed boost), then I'm not opposed to it at all.
On a side note, my brother has his upgrade right now, and he is in town this weekend and I am supposed to help him pick out a phone. I'm gonna try to convince him that the Nexus S is worth the $150 over the LG optimus S, which he thinks he wants cause it's free (waste of an upgrade imo [he's upgrading from a palm that is like 2 years old, so actually, anything is about an upgrade]).
My question to you guys, that will hopefully solve mine and his problem. How is the Nexus S as a two year phone? How well do you think it will hold up down the road? I'm not the kind of guy who can afford to buy a new phone out of contract (paying full price), being a college student, but come upgrade time, I am willing to dish out $200+ (but not much more) on a phone that I will be happy with for 2 years. I know that may seem like a lot to ask for with technology, and it's probably a lot to ask for you guys to predict the future too lol. So, do you think the Nexus S will be dead 2 years from now (when my upgrade following then next upgrade is)? Considering the phone will have been out for 2 and a half years plus, I am wondering this question...
I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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the nexus 1 is still getting official updates, and even then after that. look how long your hero lasted due to the community, you really think that NO ONE will be making anything for it? at the very least it will have cm support for a while.
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I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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Are you thinking about returning it because of the EVO, or is there something about the Nexus S that you don't like? Just curious to hear your opinion.
I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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I would bank on the nexus s to be the way to go. I think carriers and handset makers make new phones outdated themselves (software wise) so they can keep pushing out new phones with the newer software to make more money. Eventually the phone in question will receive an update if they choose to do so maybe 2 months, 6 months, or even a year later. This is why I usually keep getting new phones, just to keep up on the latest software without having to flash all the time dealing with instability and bugs. The nexus line will always get these updates straight from Google with no BS. The nexus specs aren't bad and its fast enough for me. Dual core would be nice but you have to ask your self is it really even needed. The nexus will be up to date for a while I assume with no strings attatched.
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Well what made me go Nexus was two phones. The Samsung Moment and Samsung Epic.
The Moment got crap for support and not even sure to this day if a dev ever fixed the evdo lock ups and terrible GPS.
Then the epic with its crappy eclair gps. Then the delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed Froyo update. Which still had crap gps. That was later fixed. Sorta. The best was when they sent a rep to xda to calm down the pissed off users about the delayed Froyo upgrade we were promised in Nov. What made me jump was this phone already had Gingerbread and Netflix support and know Google wastes no time getting updates out. I love Samsungs hardware but their software division sucks. No more of that jazz.
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Ditto
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I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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no carrier crap = win
I thought i downgraded by giving up my Epic ,but this phone is fast no doubt.
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Well the vibrant plus had been announced.
- T-mo's 4G
- FFC
- Froyo
and more I'm sure.
So maybe the Nexus S2 rumors are true.
I have a feeling Samsung is pushing updated phones too quick. At least wait a year.
I further explain myself here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10540297&postcount=15
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That was a rumor, already dismissed.
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There's not much they can actually add other than an SD slot 4g and maybe the new samoled plus. if I was a vibrant owner I'd be extremely pissed to hear about this though. Its not right to do customers like that but they don't care they just see the $$$$
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That was a rumor, already dismissed.
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Well in that case never mind lol
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If they do that ill go rage mode
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Didn't realize it was dismissed already.
But I guess the only thing keeping the from releasing another nexus would be Google. Unless Google felt the need to have a larger format dev phone like 4.3" screen, bring back HD video recording and possibly add a dual core processor.
Don't forget google already announced ice cream for this summer and the gingerbread isn't stale yet!
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here's the link to Vibrant 4G http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-vibrant-plus-will-offer-21-mbps-4g-speeds/ for anybody interested
Well its gonna run Touchwiz and Froyo. Samsung will probably take forever to update it to gingerbread. That's enough to keep me away. I could care less about 4g Since I never see those speeds
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Dont think this will happen to us, the Nexus S is not a feature phone
I'm sorry, but anyone who buys a Samsung-supported phone at this point deserves what they will inevitably get.
The Behold II and Galaxy S fiascos should be ample warning: Samsung will NOT support the software on a phone it releases in the USA. The Vibrant 4G will release with Froyo, and will reach end-of-life with Froyo, except for custom ROMS.
Kill TouchWiz already!
Is it really Samsung, or is it Tmobile that delays the updates; or a combination of both?
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I like the fact that the new Vibrant Plus has a 1650mAH battery and 4g
This is why you ALWAYS buy phones with the idea that it will be left for dead by the manufacturer as soon as you buy it (unless of course you have a Nexus )
Couldn't imagine how crappy old Vibrant owners who signed 2-year contracts must feel since most people imagine they will have their phone be relevant for at least a year but it's already a "dinosaur" in their eyes in a little less than 6 months
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I have a feeling Samsung is pushing updated phones too quick. At least wait a year.
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A year is a VERY long time in the smartphone ecosystem, unless you're in a closed system like the iPhone with only yourself to compete with.
I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
A lot of Vibrant owners pissed off because of this, but I'm not going to fault Samsung for releasing what's a pretty major upgrade (true HSPA+ and FFC) 6-10 months after the SGS line came out.
Adding SAMOLED Plus would have made it less upsetting to most, I suspect.
I won't give Sammy a pass on the lack of Froyo progress on US model Galaxy S phones, though. They obviously have it (i9000 does, as does this); but is it possible their carrier partners are the problem here?
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Couldn't imagine how crappy old Vibrant owners who signed 2-year contracts must feel since most people imagine they will have their phone be relevant for at least a year but it's already a "dinosaur" in their eyes in a little less than 6 months
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Seriously?
C'mon, the Vibrant is still "relevant" and anything but a "dinosaur". It's still got one of the best screen technologies out there, a damn good GPU and CPU, 16gb internal and external sd cards, supports 7.2Mbs. Most non-XDA-member types will still love that phone for quite some time to come.
My point in all of this was Samsung denied that they were making a nexus 2 phone up until two weeks before release and dropped that they are making the nexus s; very clever.
Just like there were early rumors of vibrant plus and those were dismissed then at the end of CES it is announced.
So there have been rumors of a nexus s2 and I guess those have been dismissed as well unless they are are going to drop 2 weeks before google's release of "ice cream" a nexus s "plus". Speculative, I know but it fits the MO of Samsung and Google - short ly (apx 6mos.) after the mytouch was made into a dev phone the nexus one was announced with android 2.2. Maybe with the rapid rise of dual core phones and larger screens; google and samsung will want a dev phone this summer that will provide these options (dual core and larger screen) for devs to design HQ games and apps on. Because lets face it Apple iOS is one up on android because the quality games and that is it. Sony is releasing this year a PSP android gaming phone so I can only imagine google wanting their dev phones to start computing in that area as well.
G1 dev phone released Dec 2008
Mytouch "magic" ion dev released phone Aug 2009
(6 months span)
Nexus One dev phone released Jan 2010
Nexus S dev phone released Dec 2010
( ~ 6 months span)
Nexus S "plus" maybe in June/July 2011? marketing wise would take some steam out of apple's typical iphone release date.
Can't deny that there is some indicators of a possible marketing pattern.
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Yes... Seriously
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Yes... Seriously
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Someone needs a reality check...
EVERY phone you buy is irrelevant within a matter of months, if not weeks by the standards you seem to be applying.
I would never buy a Touchwiz phone. Ever. Straight garbage.
Stock or HTC Sense. That's it. Everything else sucks, IMO.
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I would never buy a Touchwiz phone. Ever. Straight garbage.
Stock or HTC Sense. That's it. Everything else sucks, IMO.
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Nexus S is not a touchwiz phone. The primary reason of thread was to create a discussion whether or not people saw the viability of another nexus product releasing in 6 mos.
If interested please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10540297&postcount=15
The way i see it, is they will NOT do this to the Nexus S, there isnt enough profit in it for them
Which is a better phone all around? I was thinking about getting a Nexus.
*PLEASE VOTE AND GIVE YOUR OPINION *
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just phone wise definitely nexus S.
however it doesnt have a sd card slot and the screen is abit smaller.
also consider the carrier and if you would prefer that over sprint.
I would wait till they announce the Nexus S on Sprint and make sure the specs are the same. I would assume they are with the exception of adding a CDMA radio with wimax.
Definitely Nexus S.
Evo is nearly 2 generations old. (and RAPIDLY showing its' age)
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Definitely Nexus S.
Evo is nearly 2 generations old. (and RAPIDLY showing its' age)
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I just got mine a couple months ago and I don't real think its showing it age. I have had all the Verizon big ones like the X and the Inc and I know that they are also not the newest phones but there is always something that will be a bit better and faster. The biggest thing that I like is that Sprint is truly unlimited. Im almost up to 9 gigs with 4 days left in my cycle. I need unlimited because I had to get rid of my home internet due to lack of work in my business right now. The Nexus S is a nice phone but really..no sd card?...and I had the Fascinate with verizon and I had to depend on devs for gps fixes and usable roms but I know the S is a google phone so it shouldn't indure the lack of Samsung updates. Its all of what you like and which service does well for you in your area also.
Oh lord not another one of these threads :rolls eyes: lol
If nexus s doesn't have an sdcard slot(hopefully it does) how is it even a competitor with other smart phones out there. I'd pick my evo all day because of the huge ass screen and its an HTC. Evo 3D sounds like a winner(based on rumors).
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Oh lord not another one of these threads :rolls eyes: lol
If nexus s doesn't have an sdcard slot(hopefully it does) how is it even a competitor with other smart phones out there. I'd pick my evo all day because of the huge ass screen and its an HTC. Evo 3D sounds like a winner(based on rumors).
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+1 Screen and HTC
16GB of internal storage is a lot. If you need more that's fine, but 16 GB should satisfy a ton of people.
Edit: Things better on the Nexus S.
GPU: PowerVR SGX 540 can compete with the Tegra 2, EVO's Adreno 200 barely beats the original 2009 Droid's PowerVR 530.
Cameras: Samsung makes good mobile cameras, HTC includes terrible ones.
Display: SAMOLED > Lousy TFT
Internal Storage: EVO has a microSD slot but has very limited internal storage. Nexus S is capped at 16GB but has way more internal storage for Apps and 16GB is not bad at all.
NFC: I'm sure this will come in handy, will it this year? Maybe not but it's good to have one.
Gyroscope: Better gaming, especially FPS'.
Software: This is tough but you can knock a Google supported phone. Come Ice Cream time, you'll be watching Nexus S users playing with a fully working, HW accelerated OS.
It's just a really tough decision for me bc I'm thinking about getting the Nexus and giving the Evo to my girl. Don't get me wrong I love my Evo, I'm just ready for something new!
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16GB of internal storage is a lot. If you need more that's fine, but 16 GB should satisfy a ton of people.
Edit: Things better on the Nexus S.
GPU: PowerVR SGX 540 can compete with the Tegra 2, EVO's Adreno 200 barely beats the original 2009 Droid's PowerVR 530.
Cameras: Samsung makes good mobile cameras, HTC includes terrible ones.
Display: SAMOLED > Lousy TFT
Internal Storage: EVO has a microSD slot but has very limited internal storage. Nexus S is capped at 16GB but has way more internal storage for Apps and 16GB is not bad at all.
NFC: I'm sure this will come in handy, will it this year? Maybe not but it's good to have one.
Gyroscope: Better gaming, especially FPS'.
Software: This is tough but you can knock a Google supported phone. Come Ice Cream time, you'll be watching Nexus S users playing with a fully working, HW accelerated OS.
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Like i said..there will always be a better phone than what you have but sometimes the network and carrier matter also..If I go 10 miles away from my house with T-Mobile I go to Edge....not on Sprint. In the end it really doesnt matter to me what people decide on..I have to use whats best for me and so does everyone else. If price matters though I'm sure you have seen if your a Bestbuy rewards zone member you can get the S for $99 on a 2 year agreement with the coupon...not a bad deal.
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Like i said..there will always be a better phone than what you have but sometimes the network and carrier matter also..If I go 10 miles away from my house with T-Mobile I go to Edge....not on Sprint. In the end it really doesnt matter to me what people decide on..I have to use whats best for me and so does everyone else. If price matters though I'm sure you have seen if your a Bestbuy rewards zone member you can get the S for $99 on a 2 year agreement with the coupon...not a bad deal.
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The Nexus S (with WiMax) is strongly rumored for Sprint.
If I can manage to keep myself from going to get that Nexus then I may just wait for the new EVO or Nexus 4G.
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Is the nexus s considered the fastest android phone?
It seems to me that the Nexus S is going to be a lot more difficult to root than my EVO was. I used the original Simple Root so I guess that says A LOT!!!
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It seems to me that the Nexus S is going to be a lot more difficult to root than my EVO was. I used the original Simple Root so I guess that says A LOT!!!
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What makes you think that?
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What makes you think that?
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I read through some of the guides and its a lot of stuff that im not too sure I know how to do. It also says that you have to re do clockwork every time you want to flash a ROM...
If the Nexus S hits Sprint, you better believe I'll be selling my EVO to buy one.
1. The earlier you sell your EVO, the more you can get for it.
2. Nexus S will sell for a lot more than the EVO by the time HTC has a dual-core badboy on the market.
You see what I did there?
I'd say Evo, but that's because I've had nothing less than perfectness from my own Evo. However, the Evo 3D was announced/leaked, so I'd wait on that, because truthfully that sounds loads better than the OG Evo. But, anyways, the Nexus S is also (I'd imagine) going to be one of the phones at the top of the list for updates since, as the adds say, it is "pure Google." and they love to roll out updates, whereas the Evo is moving down the ranks with all the new phones announced at MWC and the like. Also the Evo is a beast of a phone, much larger than the Nexus S. It's really hard to define a clear cut answer, just do research and pick the phone that provides what YOU want from it.
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I read through some of the guides and its a lot of stuff that im not too sure I know how to do. It also says that you have to re do clockwork every time you want to flash a ROM...
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Really? Its a Nexus phone... While I personally dont love the Samsung construction of mine, there is something to be said of Nexus.
Part of that is the hack-ability, fastboot oem unlock. Same as N1. Literally two adb commands to root a NexusS, and recovery works just fine. Although I gotta say I miss AmonRa when using my Nexus, I just cant get used to Clockwork...
Both phones rock. NS is far beyond Evo internal wise, but I like the feel and look of my Evo far more. Only knock I have against the Evo (since buying a seidio3500, and having it last 48hours+) is the QSD8650 and Adreno200. Been available since the Eee pc in 2009....Not exactly new tech, and holy poop does my NS do 3d games like a different class of phones compared to my Evo. But then I go to HDMI the ***** to the TV for some N64oid+wiimote and....o yeah...
Edit: Forgot to mention, I think I'm gonna craigslist my NS for something dual core, if that says anything.
^^^^ see that's what I don't understand is the adb commands. How do I open the command prompts?
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Good morning everyone. I have a delima and would like everyones opinion. I switched from ATT (iPhone) to Sprint Nexus S 4g last weekend. To be honest i am not happy with the Nexus. I know the beauty of this phone is supposed to be the ability to customize and the fact that the phone has no "bloatware" loaded but i am just not thrilled with the phone.
My question is this, would it be a mistake for me to take this phone back and get the Evo Evo 4g.
Thanks in advance for everyones opinion.
returning the nexus
Welcome to Sprint!
I have owned an Evo since it first came out and have loved it. Currently running cyanogenmod.
You are so close to the release date of the Evo 3D you might want to consider that, otherwise I don't think you will be disappointed in the Evo 4G.
Good luck.
As long as you are inside of the 30 return policy you should have no problem trading nexus s for evo.
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Honestly as much as I like my Evo, you won't get as good performance as you would with your Nexus S.
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Welcome to Sprint!
I have owned an Evo since it first came out and have loved it. Currently running cyanogenmod.
You are so close to the release date of the Evo 3D you might want to consider that, otherwise I don't think you will be disappointed in the Evo 4G.
Good luck.
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I realize the 3D is due out soon. My only choice is to hope it is realeased before my 30 days are up and I can trade my phone in. I would be able to trade either the Nexus or the Evo so i will keep my fingers crossed.
How many days do you have left?
Hardware wise the EVO's GPU is absolutely garbage. Its about 4-5x slower than the Nexus S. The NS has the better quality display and 4G behavior is much better too. Otherwise you won't notice much difference.
Software wise the EVO 4G is a dead end compared to the NS. There's pretty much no way HTC is going to update the EVO to ice cream. Not only is the NS going to have it on day one but it'll be fully working too. The EVO will probably get a half working or very buggy port at some point. Plus as always the NS will be first in line for a ton of new Android things. Goggle wallet being a good example.
Bottom line: hardware wise the NS is a marginally better phone with the big advantage of having a GPU that is still comparable to even dual core chips. Software wise its a blow out in favor of the Nexus S.
I came from a EVO 4G and still own a ATT iPhone 4. Coming from a iPhone you'll never find a Android phone that offers a similar level of user experience. But the advantage is in Google services. Getting the Nexus S will keep you up to date and ice cream should narrow the UI/UX gap when it comes. Stepping down to the EVO 4G and sense won't help you much.
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Good morning everyone. I have a delima and would like everyones opinion. I switched from ATT (iPhone) to Sprint Nexus S 4g last weekend. To be honest i am not happy with the Nexus. I know the beauty of this phone is supposed to be the ability to customize and the fact that the phone has no "bloatware" loaded but i am just not thrilled with the phone.
My question is this, would it be a mistake for me to take this phone back and get the Evo Evo 4g.
Thanks in advance for everyones opinion.
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Just get the 3D and forget about it. Its on a different level than both phones.
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Just get the 3D and forget about it. Its on a different level than both phones.
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Better hardware yeah, but I still think the NS will offer the better software experience in the long term
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Better hardware yeah, but I still think the NS will offer the better software experience in the long term
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Good for you......I think otherwise. And???
I will never own another phone by Samsung again. So I would definitely get the EVO or get a refund and wait for the 3D
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Any reasons to think so?
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I wouldn't exactly say it's better, it's just aosp which means as soon as google finishes an update, it's pushed the the Nexus series. Personally I prefer aosp over Sense, but to the average person who doesn't root who doesn't know the difference between Gingerbread, Icecream, etc etc then a simple launcher replacement would do. Out of the 2, I would pick the 3d over the S but the 3d is not an option in this case.
3D over Nexus S. Assuming you're on XDA, you already root so getting latest AOSP isn't a concern.
And did you know HTC listens?
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3D over Nexus S. Assuming you're on XDA, you already root so getting latest AOSP isn't a concern.
And did you know HTC listens?
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Getting fully working AOSP is another thing. I was on CM7 and left without hesistation because of all the little bugs. Besides his choices seem to be limited to the EVO 4G and NS4G.
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Any reasons to think so?
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Android 2.3.4 with HW acceleration (specifically for dual cores), and then Ice Cream with all the enhancements to the software. I would think having better hardware along with software that makes the best use of that hardware is gonna be the reason.
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Android 2.3.4 with HW acceleration (specifically for dual cores), and then Ice Cream with all the enhancements to the software. I would think having better hardware along with software that makes the best use of that hardware is gonna be the reason.
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I've been enjoying the limited GPU acceleration under 2.3 for a couple of days now (regular NS users were for months). Judging by the average amount of time that HTC takes to update their phones, I probably would have been using ice cream for several months before the 3D got it. And by then I'd probably would have already or will be close to upgrading to the next Nexus with a 2nd generation dual core or even quad core CPU. That's why the Nexus will almost always have a better software experience.
..and that's without saying that the Nexus is Googles playground where they experiement with new mobile services like Google wallet.
Edit: The more I think about it, the more crazy it seems. It took HALF A YEAR for any phone to be officially upgraded to 2.3 and CM7 still isn't as stable as a stock N1 or NS.
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I've been enjoying the limited GPU acceleration under 2.3 for a couple of days now (regular NS users were for months). Judging by the average amount of time that HTC takes to update their phones, I probably would have been using ice cream for several months before the 3D got it. And by then I'd probably would have already or will be close to upgrading to the next Nexus with a 2nd generation dual core or even quad core CPU. That's why the Nexus will almost always have a better software experience.
..and that's without saying that the Nexus is Googles playground where they experiement with new mobile services like Google wallet.
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Maybe, Maybe not. Far be it from me to say so, but I am not relying on HTC for anything. Just like I am running a fully functional EVO 3d ROM on my evo with no issues whatsoever, when they said that was impossible. And CM7 has not had any bugs for a long time as far as im concerned. Been running it prior to this kingdom rom and it was spot on with every feature working. So having that option along with any update put out by the dev's here on the 3D is fine with me. I know they can make these devices run far beyond what HTC or google can or has intended them too.
EDIT: BTW, the whole 2.3 thing was caused by google. You do know that carriers were set to release 2.3, and then google came back with a revision and they decided to hold off to revise to that version before releasing instead of releasing then having to release another one right afterwards.
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Maybe, Maybe not. Far be it from me to say so, but I am not relying on HTC for anything. Just like I am running a fully functional EVO 3d ROM on my evo with no issues whatsoever, when they said that was impossible. And CM7 has not had any bugs for a long time as far as im concerned. Been running it prior to this kingdom rom and it was spot on with every feature working. So having that option along with any update put out by the dev's here on the 3D is fine with me. I know they can make these devices run far beyond what HTC or google can or has intended them too.
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Last time I checked the 3D ROM port has GPU driver issues that'll never allow it to run as stable as a stock EVO 3D. CM doesn't have bugs? check out the stable or nightly threads.
Bottom line, if any of those ROMs ever shipped on a commercial product, it wouldn't fly and that's if it could go pass carrier/OEM producting testing. That I can guarantee.
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Last time I checked the 3D ROM port has GPU driver issues that'll never allow it to run as stable as a stock EVO 3D. CM doesn't have bugs? check out the stable or nightly threads.
Bottom line, if any of those ROMs ever shipped on a commercial product, it wouldn't fly and that's if it could go pass carrier/OEM prosucting testing. That I can guarantee.
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Why would I need to read threads when the ROM was on my phone for the entire time up until a few days ago. Lets see My personal experiance vs someone else's in a thread. I think I can go on my personal experiance alot more reliably than someone else's...dont you think?
I love my Vibrant. I really do. It's been running great since the day 1.
In 20 days, I am moving overseas. I know for a fact that the cell phones are much more expensive in the country that I will be traveling. If I ever decide to change my Vibrant, I need to do it now! But I don't know what to get
Essentially, there would be at least half a dozen new phones to choose from, which all would have a ton of new stuff; but I don't believe this is the case. HTC Sensation? Droid X? What is out there that would blow my brains out?
Anyways, if you think Vibrant is weak compared to newer phones and recommend I should change it before my travel, please say so. Thanks!
Galaxy S2 nuff said
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There have been a lot of killer phones recently released, but I'm lovin' my Sensation!
depends... where are you moving to? - don't have to answer if its that personal to you.
then we can tell you that phones are released there, or what phones are set to be released.
Anyways without knowing your location a random shot - i'd say Galaxy S 2
I personally don't think any of the new devices (Galaxy S2 included) really justify the cost of buying a new device. Unless Android finally gains some multi-core support now, dual cores will underperform compared to a higher clocked single core chip or due to the higher resolutions on newer devices such as the Sensation. As of now, your best bet is to just upgrade to CM7 or a nice JVR rom (has a buttery smooth browser similar to the one in SGS2) and wait the for next Nexus. Even on its single core Hummingbird, the Nexus S still probably performs the same of slightly better simply due to its stock vanilla rom.
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I personally don't think any of the new devices (Galaxy S2 included) really justify the cost of buying a new device. Unless Android finally gains some multi-core support now, dual cores will underperform compared to a higher clocked single core chip or due to the higher resolutions on newer devices such as the Sensation. As of now, your best bet is to just upgrade to CM7 or a nice JVR rom (has a buttery smooth browser similar to the one in SGS2) and wait the for next Nexus. Even on its single core Hummingbird, the Nexus S still probably performs the same of slightly better simply due to its stock vanilla rom.
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Exactly what I was trying to say (my poor English) .
Any device out there that will "justify the cost of buying a new device" ??
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Exactly what I was trying to say (my poor English) .
Any device out there that will "justify the cost of buying a new device" ??
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Nope. All are the same ****.
anilo said:
Exactly what I was trying to say (my poor English) .
Any device out there that will "justify the cost of buying a new device" ??
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Just wait for the next nexus it will be worth the wait.
I myself would not be buying another android phone if it's not a nexus phone.
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No nothing is worth the money to upgrade right now. The vibrant (if its modded and customized) should be good enough wherever you're going. See if you can get your hands on a regular internation galaxy s. Its supported infinitely more (they've been on gb since like september lol) and still gets updates...
The gs 2 isn't worth the upgrade. Well to me atleast. The screen is the same that's the only deal breaker
I have the epic 4g and this phone is definitely good enough. My friend just got the sensation and I'm envious, ofcourse, but its not as much of a jump from, say, the mytouch 3g to the mytouch 4g slide.
If you really want to upgrade, then get another gsm phone. The droid x is a downgrade and its also CDMA which is mainly only supported in the US and japan.
Good luck, my fellow galaxy s brother
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Or wait for ice cream sandwich it should have a great speed boost since the phone will be GPU assisted or just get next nexus
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I would love mine more if it wasn't for all the things that should just work that are kinda quirky. I love the screen and everything else that isnt
At least this phone has given me insights into exactly what to look for and test before i will take another phone home. Most of the time you do not realize what is important to you until it doesn't work as expected.
Vibrant - Its like that beautiful expensive car you got then realize that it was a car rental at one time and things just start to surface.... flat tire... um where is the spare... its just a rim with no rubber on it.
Nope there is noting new that is worth changing phone.
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If you love the Vibrant, you will love the Galaxy S2. If possible, get the international version.
Thank you very much guys. I kind of knew it wasn't worth spending a ton of money on something not so much different than our Vibrant running strong on CM7.
Although, I still wish someone had said I have to have an HTC Sensation so that I can start shopping for one just for the adrenalin
i love my vibrant 2
Gs2 or wait for next nexus
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I just bought a nexus off ebay in random thought of upgrading my gf from her utterly annoying and pathetic samsung intercept. Now my problem is that I can't decide if its worth it for me to switch from my beloved epic to a nexus... Is the gpu better in the epic or nexus or same? I can live without the keyboard if theres something there besides ICS. Little help/opinion is appreciated especially from those who've had first hand usage.
Nexus
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I was wondering the same thing, since Sprint has the Nexus for free until today. I don't play that many games, so top of the line isn't something I have to have.
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I just bought a nexus off ebay in random thought of upgrading my gf from her utterly annoying and pathetic samsung intercept. Now my problem is that I can't decide if its worth it for me to switch from my beloved epic to a nexus... Is the gpu better in the epic or nexus or same? I can live without the keyboard if theres something there besides ICS. Little help/opinion is appreciated especially from those who've had first hand usage.
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Its Pretty much an epic with more roms (ics, official cm7, official miui, sense, blur, ics touchwiz, sonys ics ui, and many more). Same gpu. If you don't use your keyboard much, its probably best to pick nexus.
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Thanks, I think I'm set now switching from my epic My gal would rather have a keyboard any way.
Waiiitt, the Nexus S 4G is free?! Do you need to be eligible for an upgrade?
Edit: Never mind, I see you do. Damn!
wouldn't it be better to stick with EPIC for now ( since Sprint should be releasing LTE phones in 2012 ) ?
you probably should stick it out, but if you want to switch its not a whole lot different.
My friend has the nexus s and from my playing with it there are a few negatives that i saw:
1. camera always makes the pictures upside down, every picture i get from them is upside down.
2. no gorilla glass
3. no keyboard obviously (not a major issue but for some on here it is)
but the pluses are obviously android updates in a timely fashion and more support for roms. and its a little sleeker and lighter.
just my thoughts
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you probably should stick it out, but if you want to switch its not a whole lot different.
My friend has the nexus s and from my playing with it there are a few negatives that i saw:
1. camera always makes the pictures upside down, every picture i get from them is upside down.
2. no gorilla glass
3. no keyboard obviously (not a major issue but for some on here it is)
but the pluses are obviously android updates in a timely fashion and more support for roms. and its a little sleeker and lighter.
just my thoughts
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Also:
No Micro SD slot.
No native 4G toggle.
Camera app is inferior and is limited to 480p on video recording.
No physical camera shutter button.
With the release of Gingerbread, the devs here have really managed to have turned the epic into a best of class phone. It's pretty awesome now.
ICS should be awesome on the Nexus and official support should be great. Just keep in mind the limitations of both phones. It's a close race for me at this point in time.
Stay with the Epic check out the Cyanogenmod forum.
Stay with the Epic and use your upgrade for an LTE 4G phone. Flash the latest cyanogenmod ROM. This is much better than the Nexus Rom the only downside is no 4G.
Stay epic!!!!!!
Whatever gets you laid.
Do remember upgrades are now 2 years not 1 so in 6 mths you will be punching yourself when they release a quadcore lte nexus lmao
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I would keep both the Nexus and the Epic. I had the same problem with my gf's phone she had a horrible LG Optimus S so I got her a used HTC Evo 4G and put CM7 on it and she loves it. I know this doesn't help you but I'm just saying this because my gf didn't want to really use her phine to its full potential she just wanted a good phone. Maybe your gf would just want a decent phone?
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Phone came today and my gf looked at it was like candy LOL.... with that being said I ended up activating the phone for her. I don't have my upgrade available till sept/oct next year so I'm stuck waiting for a lte phone.
I've seen more than one of these threads, I guess I'll throw in my opinion:
Stick with the Epic. It is still a beast when it comes to power and development for it is still continuing with quite a few people still using it. And it has a physical keyboard
Wait for some LTE phones to come out also. I for one would love to see a good (Android) HTC phone on Sprint again.
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Since i'm one of the few who actually read the op and knows that he ALREADY BOUGHT BOTH, i'm not going to answer "save your money" like some of the others here...
Nexus S by far feels more "solid", I owned the epic until the release date of the nexus s and having used both extensively I really think i'm justified in saying that the nexus s is just overall a better user experience.
The keyboard for me was useless because of the dropped keys and I like the thinner profile of the nexus, not to mention both of my epics felt broken because of the sloppy hinge. The overall build if the nexus is just great
The nexus s is better ... But sprint should be getting the galaxy nexus soon... Why would you buy the nexus s thats so old?
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Since i'm one of the few who actually read the op and knows that he ALREADY BOUGHT BOTH, i'm not going to answer "save your money" like some of the others here...
Nexus S by far feels more "solid", I owned the epic until the release date of the nexus s and having used both extensively I really think i'm justified in saying that the nexus s is just overall a better user experience.
The keyboard for me was useless because of the dropped keys and I like the thinner profile of the nexus, not to mention both of my epics felt broken because of the sloppy hinge. The overall build if the nexus is just great
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Lol you get a pat on the back. The Nexus does feel solid and easier to hold vs my Epic, also 2.3.7 is super smooth stock.
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I bought the phone as a gift for my gal to get her off a crappy intercept. I wanted a pure google phone and didn't care for anything else besides the Epic touch (which was priced far out of my range).