Good morning everyone. I have a delima and would like everyones opinion. I switched from ATT (iPhone) to Sprint Nexus S 4g last weekend. To be honest i am not happy with the Nexus. I know the beauty of this phone is supposed to be the ability to customize and the fact that the phone has no "bloatware" loaded but i am just not thrilled with the phone.
My question is this, would it be a mistake for me to take this phone back and get the Evo Evo 4g.
Thanks in advance for everyones opinion.
returning the nexus
Welcome to Sprint!
I have owned an Evo since it first came out and have loved it. Currently running cyanogenmod.
You are so close to the release date of the Evo 3D you might want to consider that, otherwise I don't think you will be disappointed in the Evo 4G.
Good luck.
As long as you are inside of the 30 return policy you should have no problem trading nexus s for evo.
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Honestly as much as I like my Evo, you won't get as good performance as you would with your Nexus S.
q711179 said:
Welcome to Sprint!
I have owned an Evo since it first came out and have loved it. Currently running cyanogenmod.
You are so close to the release date of the Evo 3D you might want to consider that, otherwise I don't think you will be disappointed in the Evo 4G.
Good luck.
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I realize the 3D is due out soon. My only choice is to hope it is realeased before my 30 days are up and I can trade my phone in. I would be able to trade either the Nexus or the Evo so i will keep my fingers crossed.
How many days do you have left?
Hardware wise the EVO's GPU is absolutely garbage. Its about 4-5x slower than the Nexus S. The NS has the better quality display and 4G behavior is much better too. Otherwise you won't notice much difference.
Software wise the EVO 4G is a dead end compared to the NS. There's pretty much no way HTC is going to update the EVO to ice cream. Not only is the NS going to have it on day one but it'll be fully working too. The EVO will probably get a half working or very buggy port at some point. Plus as always the NS will be first in line for a ton of new Android things. Goggle wallet being a good example.
Bottom line: hardware wise the NS is a marginally better phone with the big advantage of having a GPU that is still comparable to even dual core chips. Software wise its a blow out in favor of the Nexus S.
I came from a EVO 4G and still own a ATT iPhone 4. Coming from a iPhone you'll never find a Android phone that offers a similar level of user experience. But the advantage is in Google services. Getting the Nexus S will keep you up to date and ice cream should narrow the UI/UX gap when it comes. Stepping down to the EVO 4G and sense won't help you much.
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avengersdad said:
Good morning everyone. I have a delima and would like everyones opinion. I switched from ATT (iPhone) to Sprint Nexus S 4g last weekend. To be honest i am not happy with the Nexus. I know the beauty of this phone is supposed to be the ability to customize and the fact that the phone has no "bloatware" loaded but i am just not thrilled with the phone.
My question is this, would it be a mistake for me to take this phone back and get the Evo Evo 4g.
Thanks in advance for everyones opinion.
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Just get the 3D and forget about it. Its on a different level than both phones.
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Just get the 3D and forget about it. Its on a different level than both phones.
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Better hardware yeah, but I still think the NS will offer the better software experience in the long term
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Better hardware yeah, but I still think the NS will offer the better software experience in the long term
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Good for you......I think otherwise. And???
I will never own another phone by Samsung again. So I would definitely get the EVO or get a refund and wait for the 3D
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Good for you......I think otherwise. And???
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Any reasons to think so?
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I wouldn't exactly say it's better, it's just aosp which means as soon as google finishes an update, it's pushed the the Nexus series. Personally I prefer aosp over Sense, but to the average person who doesn't root who doesn't know the difference between Gingerbread, Icecream, etc etc then a simple launcher replacement would do. Out of the 2, I would pick the 3d over the S but the 3d is not an option in this case.
3D over Nexus S. Assuming you're on XDA, you already root so getting latest AOSP isn't a concern.
And did you know HTC listens?
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Cares said:
3D over Nexus S. Assuming you're on XDA, you already root so getting latest AOSP isn't a concern.
And did you know HTC listens?
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Getting fully working AOSP is another thing. I was on CM7 and left without hesistation because of all the little bugs. Besides his choices seem to be limited to the EVO 4G and NS4G.
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Any reasons to think so?
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Android 2.3.4 with HW acceleration (specifically for dual cores), and then Ice Cream with all the enhancements to the software. I would think having better hardware along with software that makes the best use of that hardware is gonna be the reason.
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Android 2.3.4 with HW acceleration (specifically for dual cores), and then Ice Cream with all the enhancements to the software. I would think having better hardware along with software that makes the best use of that hardware is gonna be the reason.
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I've been enjoying the limited GPU acceleration under 2.3 for a couple of days now (regular NS users were for months). Judging by the average amount of time that HTC takes to update their phones, I probably would have been using ice cream for several months before the 3D got it. And by then I'd probably would have already or will be close to upgrading to the next Nexus with a 2nd generation dual core or even quad core CPU. That's why the Nexus will almost always have a better software experience.
..and that's without saying that the Nexus is Googles playground where they experiement with new mobile services like Google wallet.
Edit: The more I think about it, the more crazy it seems. It took HALF A YEAR for any phone to be officially upgraded to 2.3 and CM7 still isn't as stable as a stock N1 or NS.
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Award Tour said:
I've been enjoying the limited GPU acceleration under 2.3 for a couple of days now (regular NS users were for months). Judging by the average amount of time that HTC takes to update their phones, I probably would have been using ice cream for several months before the 3D got it. And by then I'd probably would have already or will be close to upgrading to the next Nexus with a 2nd generation dual core or even quad core CPU. That's why the Nexus will almost always have a better software experience.
..and that's without saying that the Nexus is Googles playground where they experiement with new mobile services like Google wallet.
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Maybe, Maybe not. Far be it from me to say so, but I am not relying on HTC for anything. Just like I am running a fully functional EVO 3d ROM on my evo with no issues whatsoever, when they said that was impossible. And CM7 has not had any bugs for a long time as far as im concerned. Been running it prior to this kingdom rom and it was spot on with every feature working. So having that option along with any update put out by the dev's here on the 3D is fine with me. I know they can make these devices run far beyond what HTC or google can or has intended them too.
EDIT: BTW, the whole 2.3 thing was caused by google. You do know that carriers were set to release 2.3, and then google came back with a revision and they decided to hold off to revise to that version before releasing instead of releasing then having to release another one right afterwards.
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Maybe, Maybe not. Far be it from me to say so, but I am not relying on HTC for anything. Just like I am running a fully functional EVO 3d ROM on my evo with no issues whatsoever, when they said that was impossible. And CM7 has not had any bugs for a long time as far as im concerned. Been running it prior to this kingdom rom and it was spot on with every feature working. So having that option along with any update put out by the dev's here on the 3D is fine with me. I know they can make these devices run far beyond what HTC or google can or has intended them too.
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Last time I checked the 3D ROM port has GPU driver issues that'll never allow it to run as stable as a stock EVO 3D. CM doesn't have bugs? check out the stable or nightly threads.
Bottom line, if any of those ROMs ever shipped on a commercial product, it wouldn't fly and that's if it could go pass carrier/OEM producting testing. That I can guarantee.
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Last time I checked the 3D ROM port has GPU driver issues that'll never allow it to run as stable as a stock EVO 3D. CM doesn't have bugs? check out the stable or nightly threads.
Bottom line, if any of those ROMs ever shipped on a commercial product, it wouldn't fly and that's if it could go pass carrier/OEM prosucting testing. That I can guarantee.
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Why would I need to read threads when the ROM was on my phone for the entire time up until a few days ago. Lets see My personal experiance vs someone else's in a thread. I think I can go on my personal experiance alot more reliably than someone else's...dont you think?
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I'm going to be changing providers soon to Sprint. I've been on T-Mobile for the longest time. Had a Nexus One but sold it due to financial woes.
Anyhoo... I'm looking at the Samsung Epic 4G and it seems to be the nicest phone I've seen yet on Sprint. I don't like the EVO, at all, and the EVO with a keyboard is too small for me.
Thoughts on Samsung? Thoughts on this phone overall? I have played with them a bit (a couple of co-workers have them) and, though I'm disappointed that they don't have the 2.2 Update yet... I'll live. I haven't had a smart phone at all for several months now.
I'll be getting it at the end of next week, if the Epic is what I decide on.
If you want a high end one, and you don't want the evo, get the epic. Otherwise, for sprint ID android, get the Optimus S.
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Well, I have both the Evo and Epic, but I would sell my Evo before I sold my Epic. Just because when the source code drops for the Epic, CM6 +CM7 + overclocked- undervolted kernels etc... will make this phone shine like it should have been 5 months ago.
epic or evo
Id wait as long as possible because sprint will be dropping some new phones somtime this quarter. I know one of them being windows phone7. The Evo is outdated to me, the epic isn't well supported but still the best phone imo. Evo shift close 2nd.
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Id wait as long as possible because sprint will be dropping some new phones somtime this quarter. I know one of them being windows phone7. The Evo is outdated to me, the epic isn't well supported but still the best phone imo. Evo shift close 2nd.
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I think the Galaxy S2 line of phones will be announced in a few weeks.
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Id wait as long as possible because sprint will be dropping some new phones somtime this quarter. I know one of them being windows phone7. The Evo is outdated to me, the epic isn't well supported but still the best phone imo. Evo shift close 2nd.
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Agreed. Dual core phones are just around the corner and Nvidia is releasing its Tegra 3 Quad core chip this fall. Buying a single core phone right now is not in your best interest.
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I think the Galaxy S2 line of phones will be announced in a few weeks.
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They better not. Samsung has like 40 Galaxy S phones as it is. If they go and announce new phones without updating us to at least Froyo I am going to be pissed.
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They better not. Samsung has like 40 Galaxy S phones as it is. If they go and announce new phones without updating us to at least Froyo I am going to be pissed.
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The device, dubbed the Samsung Galaxy S2 and internally codenamed "Seine," is said to have a 1GHz dual core processor, a 4.3 or 4.5-inch Super AMOLED Plus screen, an 8 MP camera, NFC chip, and will run on Android 2.3 Gingerbread.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/01/samsung-galaxy-s2-seine-specifications-lea/
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The device, dubbed the Samsung Galaxy S2 and internally codenamed "Seine," is said to have a 1GHz dual core processor, a 4.3 or 4.5-inch Super AMOLED Plus screen, an 8 MP camera, NFC chip, and will run on Android 2.3 Gingerbread.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/01/samsung-galaxy-s2-seine-specifications-lea/
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Damn it has gingerbread and we do.t even have official froyo. Oh yeah I would wait as well man. There are some better phones coming soon. I'm still drooling over the atrix. I think that will be the best phone this year unless the tegra3's come out.
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They better not. Samsung has like 40 Galaxy S phones as it is. If they go and announce new phones without updating us to at least Froyo I am going to be pissed.
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I see no difference. All manufacturers do it. Sounds like a double standard. No device has 2.3. I can name a few devices that have 2.1 or lower with a promise to update, and they all are coming out with newer devices.
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I see no difference. All manufacturers do it. Sounds like a double standard. No device has 2.3. I can name a few devices that have 2.1 or lower with a promise to update, and they all are coming out with newer devices.
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The difference is that when this phone launched it was launched under the guise that it would receive Froyo in a timely manner. Now 5 months later they haven't updated it yet. The more phones they release, the less incentive they have to update older devices. They gain nothing financially from updating devices to newer versions of Android. A small percentage of people, at most in the high single digits, actually care/know what version of Android the phone is running. Even if they wrote off this group of people and these people never bought Samsung again, they gain business by constantly introducing new shiny phones for the remaining 90+% to buy.
That is why I am concerned with them releasing new awesome phones while ours remain on Android 2.1.
Regardless how long they took they still kept their end of the bargain. Look st the mytouch slide. They are speculating someone after march for their 2.2 upgrade. So HTC should get the same flack. Yet I don't see it. Motorola did the same thing with the droid X. they brought out 2 devices with 2.2 while droid X users waited. See what I am talking about? People tend to promote another manufacturer without actually looking at times. They all do the same thing and sometimes it falls under the radar.
The best android phone for sprint is not the one I have (epic), but the one that has the best specs today. Don't believe anything sprint says about future software updates unless they put in writing with a specific release date. Sprint are the biggest gd liars when it comes to selling phones.
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Samsung epic is the best phone hands down!
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The epic is a much better phone but as you can tell with all the froyo post samsung and sprint cant seem to provide us with an actual update. That had never been a problem with any htc I have ever owned.
that's the only reason I say evo.
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If you can live without an official Froyo for an indeterminate period of time, or are willing to try custom ROMs, then go for it. The Epic is a great piece of hardware, I really like mine. Then again, there'll be some new hardware coming to Sprint in the near future I'm sure.. might be better to wait another month or two if you can stand it.
updates are nice...but if Google is really trying to push this gaming stuff, then thats when the Evo gets killed. They added a lot of things in Gingerbread for gaming but none of that is going to help the Evo out. The Evo with Gingerbread still can't play Dungeon Defenders while the Epic on 2.1 can...so really, Gingerbread is just an update that gives the Evo the Epic experience (because Gingerbread really does feel like 2.2.1 on the Epic).
And there are so many other things wrong with the Evo as well....main thing is 4G and battery life. The Evo doesnt even report the right battery percentages. You can be on 100% then go into recovery, come out of recovery and be at 96%...go back into recovery and come out of it and be at 98% -.-. The battery is also a slippery slope. Once the phone heats up, there's absolutely no way of cooling it down unless you stop EVERYTHING you're doing. And everything heats it up, and it only takes 20 mins of usage to go from 80 to +95 degrees. They do have the dev community and kernels, but the kernels only help with the sleeping (barely). They dont really help with actual usage because of the slippery slope.
Also the Epic is a true 4G phone. It treats 4G more like 3G than WiFi. With the Evo, once you connect to 4G, it runs nonstop, which is why people thought 4G was a guzzler and thats why I was afraid to use it on my Epic. but the Epic actually times it out when not in use and starts it back up once in use, saves a ton of battery.
So Hardware: Epic wins
Software: Evo wins
Overall: Epic
Now the Evo wins software because of the updates and dev community, but let me put it like this....I had the Evo since August and since August Ive tried literally all roms and kernels...damn near every different combination...I followed every tip provided that promised better performance and battery life...and at the end of the day my phone was basically the same as it was out of the box. I was happy because I've never seen any better and thought that the Evo was the best out there. After one day of using the Epic, I can't go back. I just flashed DK28 and that experience alone is way better than anything the Evo has had to offer. Performance = top notch. Battery life = top notch. Its just perfect. This phone is simply perfect and I honestly don't think that HTC should be allowed to make anymore Android phones.
Ok, so I have a dilemma. At first, when sprint announced the EVO 3D, to me, there was no question I would get it. After HTC announced a locked bootloader (? clarification on what exactly is locked), I am asking this question. What is better, a stock (worst case scenario) Evo 3D, or a modified Nexus S? I know modifications make a HUGE difference (just ask my HTC Hero ) as far as performance goes, so the simple question is, what would perform better? Gaming is a huge factor for me too-- which is the better gaming device (I actually heard the nexus s has a better video card so I might have my question answered already)?
And obviously, the 3D is garbage to me, so don't take that into consideration. The only thing I hate about the Nexus S that has a draw on the EVO 3D is the 1080p vs SD on the Nexus (which is crazy). If there was even a 720p video capability on the nexus (hopefully by a hack) then I would be content with that.
TIA and sorry if this is a really dumb question!
although the nexus s isnt 720p, the vid/pics are actually quite good. and in all honesty, the "720p" on the evo's 8mp was straight garbage. basically the only real advantage the evo has is the dual core.
also, if u do plan on the ns4g, check out wirefly. they have a special right now, $99 on new contract, $149 on upgrade. no activation/shipping/taxes!
My upgrade isn't until July 1st so i'll have some time before I get my upgrade. As far as the processor goes, which is the real major difference, how much better "real world" performance will the evo3D get over the Nexus S (not meaning benchmarks)?
honestly who says it will? qualcomm "showboated" a 1.5ghz dual core cpu with the new adreno 220 in the gl benchmark, it got only 11 fps better then the stock nexus s. why do i say only? a brand new gpu, a dual core 1.5ghz vs a 1ghz cpu and what many consider outdated hardware, and it only got 11 fps. the evo3d is supposed ot have a 1.2ghz version of this chipset, so even lower performance (stock mind you.. if they hack it it will increase obviously). want more proof that the nexus s is still rockin? go to glbenchmark.com and look at the top devices, the ipad 2 (sgx543) is the top of the list, meanwhile the nexus s is number 5 (SGX540) as the top PHONE (all other devices are tablets).
i dont even consider the evo3d an upgrade for the price they are gunna want for it, meanwhile if you want raw power, best just wait for the samsung galaxy s 2. its been kickin in a lot of doors and take'in a whole lot more names
I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Even after the 3d evo comes out I think the super amoled screen and official Google support will continue to make the nexus s a compelling device.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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I used the Evo since August so for probably about 8 months or so and I just switched to the ns4g with no hesitation and love it. On the Evo I used ADW launcher so I did not even have sense running so for me I got a better faster lighter phone. It was a no-brainer in my opinion and I like the "pure Google experience". I also have two friends that went from the Evo to ns4g and they feel the same. I say take the ns.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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Well I actually have a GB rom on my hero (thats why it's running so much smoother) and I love the vanilla GB look. I can't stand sense, so from a UI standpoint, I already prefer NS>>>E3D
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I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Wouldnt that be the beauty in Android and what makes it what it is? The customization and the limitless options available. The way it can be tailor fitted for the end user? Ultimately isnt that one of the things we love so much about it?
Well...thats why I like it anyway...
You're in limbo......that sucks. What is that, four levels down or five?
Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well, if I feel like I'm upgrading every time I flash (which on my hero, seemingly every flash has been a speed boost), then I'm not opposed to it at all.
On a side note, my brother has his upgrade right now, and he is in town this weekend and I am supposed to help him pick out a phone. I'm gonna try to convince him that the Nexus S is worth the $150 over the LG optimus S, which he thinks he wants cause it's free (waste of an upgrade imo [he's upgrading from a palm that is like 2 years old, so actually, anything is about an upgrade]).
My question to you guys, that will hopefully solve mine and his problem. How is the Nexus S as a two year phone? How well do you think it will hold up down the road? I'm not the kind of guy who can afford to buy a new phone out of contract (paying full price), being a college student, but come upgrade time, I am willing to dish out $200+ (but not much more) on a phone that I will be happy with for 2 years. I know that may seem like a lot to ask for with technology, and it's probably a lot to ask for you guys to predict the future too lol. So, do you think the Nexus S will be dead 2 years from now (when my upgrade following then next upgrade is)? Considering the phone will have been out for 2 and a half years plus, I am wondering this question...
I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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the nexus 1 is still getting official updates, and even then after that. look how long your hero lasted due to the community, you really think that NO ONE will be making anything for it? at the very least it will have cm support for a while.
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I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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Are you thinking about returning it because of the EVO, or is there something about the Nexus S that you don't like? Just curious to hear your opinion.
I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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I would bank on the nexus s to be the way to go. I think carriers and handset makers make new phones outdated themselves (software wise) so they can keep pushing out new phones with the newer software to make more money. Eventually the phone in question will receive an update if they choose to do so maybe 2 months, 6 months, or even a year later. This is why I usually keep getting new phones, just to keep up on the latest software without having to flash all the time dealing with instability and bugs. The nexus line will always get these updates straight from Google with no BS. The nexus specs aren't bad and its fast enough for me. Dual core would be nice but you have to ask your self is it really even needed. The nexus will be up to date for a while I assume with no strings attatched.
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Well what made me go Nexus was two phones. The Samsung Moment and Samsung Epic.
The Moment got crap for support and not even sure to this day if a dev ever fixed the evdo lock ups and terrible GPS.
Then the epic with its crappy eclair gps. Then the delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed Froyo update. Which still had crap gps. That was later fixed. Sorta. The best was when they sent a rep to xda to calm down the pissed off users about the delayed Froyo upgrade we were promised in Nov. What made me jump was this phone already had Gingerbread and Netflix support and know Google wastes no time getting updates out. I love Samsungs hardware but their software division sucks. No more of that jazz.
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I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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no carrier crap = win
I thought i downgraded by giving up my Epic ,but this phone is fast no doubt.
Currently on an EVO 4g trying to decide if I want the Evo 3d, Moto Photon, NS4G, or stay on my Evo 4g and wait to see if the next Nexus comes in the upcoming months to Sprint.
My question to the members here, what is the NS4G community base like? Man NS4g users and devs out there? My hesitation is that the phone may have been passed up by many for the upcoming "super phones" resulting in less of a community = less community dev work for the device.
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For the nexus s 4 g we got miui and cm7. There are also some cm7/aosp based roms as well. We also got Trinity kernel and also netarchy. Honestly we got all the big names it just may seem like we have a little amount of roms. As for if you should get it, it's all up to you. I for one will only use a nexus product, I'm too attached to aosp to go use sense or touchwiz. But I heard the sgs2 might be coming out soon, that device is wow.
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Seems like there is a great community here. If you coming from a EVO 4g you might want to stick with another phone like EVO 3D. The Nexus S 4G comes very bland. However you can customize it very easy. You have to be better than a advanced user to stick the NEXUS S 4G. As far as something like touchwiz, there is a mod.. Touchwiz needs alot of work to be done to have it completely ported over. People in this community seem more concerned with other things and have a bad taste for something like touchwiz.
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Currently on an EVO 4g trying to decide if I want the Evo 3d, Moto Photon, NS4G, or stay on my Evo 4g and wait to see if the next Nexus comes in the upcoming months to Sprint.
My question to the members here, what is the NS4G community base like? Man NS4g users and devs out there? My hesitation is that the phone may have been passed up by many for the upcoming "super phones" resulting in less of a community = less community dev work for the device.
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Thank you for the replies, they have helped but still not sure which way I am going to go.
Been looking at the benchmarks and see they are fairly even, some say the adreno is better, others say the 540 is better.
I had horrible luck with CM7 on my original Evo, while other AOSP roms ran like a dream. Leads me to wonder how AOSP will be on the 3d. But with Ice cream comes dual core support and I would assume the 3d at that point would pull ahead of the NS4g in performance, making it more future proof for me over the next 2 years.
Anyways, thank you for the responses.
Is the miui bugfree for the nexus s 4g yet? Ive still yet to root my phone lol, been waiting on miui to be stable...
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Is the miui bugfree for the nexus s 4g yet? Ive still yet to root my phone lol, been waiting on miui to be stable...
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MIUI, Salvage Mod, Ultimate Droid, and VaelPak AOSP preview were the most stable AOSP roms I ran on my Evo.
Now, each have their own issues, but they were stable and responsive. One thing that seems to be a mess across all of them is a less than stellar wifi signal compared to when running Sense, yet another thing that makes me worried about going with eh 3d, it's horribly annoying on the Evo 4g.
How "future proof" would you say the NS4G is? Will hardware acceleration keep the phone capable for another 2 years yet? I also want to check out the 3d screen in sunlight, huge geocacher and the Evo was terrible in sunlight.
Skitzi said:
MIUI, Salvage Mod, Ultimate Droid, and VaelPak AOSP preview were the most stable AOSP roms I ran on my Evo.
Now, each have their own issues, but they were stable and responsive. One thing that seems to be a mess across all of them is a less than stellar wifi signal compared to when running Sense, yet another thing that makes me worried about going with eh 3d, it's horribly annoying on the Evo 4g.
How "future proof" would you say the NS4G is? Will hardware acceleration keep the phone capable for another 2 years yet? I also want to check out the 3d screen in sunlight, huge geocacher and the Evo was terrible in sunlight.
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Can't speak for the Evo 3D but the NS4G is nothing short of fantastic in sunlight... YMMV though.
The NS4G will have more developer support most likely, performance isn't going to leave you hanging, however the Evo3D does win the specs war.
Future proof in what way? The hardware is going to be capable for years to come I imagine... software wise a Nexus phone is the definition of future proof. You will be getting updates directly from Google, likely for a very long time to come.
The Evo3D has more bells and whistles, while the NS is more of a enthusiasts phone for those that want pure Android, the latest updates, a large development scene, etc. Gotta pick your poison from there.
And honastly there alot orf "CUSTOM" sense roms for the evo that have the alot of the same tweaks with just different themes already mixed in. But to not to discredit anyone i cant make hide or hair of software
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I'm due for an upgrade from an Evo.
I have 2 choices, Nexus S 4G or Evo 3D.
I've had the Evo since the first day it came out and loved it since. So I'm kinda hesitant on wanting to give it up.. so I'm thinking Evo 3D might be a nice upgrade but I keep hearing Nexus is a better phone.
Which one would you choose, and why?
I'm a sense type of Guy so I would stick with HTC. I think the 3d is faster than the nexus too.
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Going from an evo to a nexus really isn't an upgrade.......get the 3D (dual core).
Nexus is and lighter, and supposedly guaranteed to be up to date with OS releases, if that's important to you. Everything else I've read says that even the old Evo 4G is better.
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Nexus is and lighter, and supposedly guaranteed to be up to date with OS releases, if that's important to you. Everything else I've read says that even the old Evo 4G is better.
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As long as you root I wouldn't worry about the OS. My girl used her upgrade on a nexus s and its no way better than my evo IMO. Plus it has radio/signal issues based on what everyone has been complaining about. Why go backwards?
Nexus S
*no SD card slot (fail)
*no HDMI
*radio issues
*Samsung lol
*many more
I say go in the store play with both then decide what you want
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Also if you don't like either just wait there are other phones coming out as well ask people here if gonna get a bunch of crazy stuff go with ur gut n what u like man that's all
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Nexus is and lighter, and supposedly guaranteed to be up to date with OS releases, if that's important to you. Everything else I've read says that even the old Evo 4G is better.
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Lol oh really? Like what? Everything I've read from actual users says otherwise
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The only thing the NS has over the EVO really is battery life. EVO 3d is the latest and greatest, NS is 2009/2010 tech under the hood, already outdated IMO.
It had a nicer body? I do wish the evo wasn't so square and more like the my touch or the upcoming sensation in body type.
I went with the Evo 4G over the Nexus S...No HDMI on the Nexus was a killer and I really like this kick stand
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Lol oh really? Like what? Everything I've read from actual users says otherwise
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Well, the user experience is what counts, of course. But wit the Nexus S you're giving up the HDMI out, you're giving up the kickstand, you're giving up 1/2" of screen realestate, you're giving up an SD card slot (and potentially 16 GB of additional storage) and I've heard the Nexus S isn't any faster.
I do like the form factor (size, shape and weight) though, to be honest and would probably have gone with the Nexus S instead of my Evo had it been available at Sprint when I signed my contract (I asked about it at the time but they coulnd't give me a firm release date).
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Nexus is and lighter, and supposedly guaranteed to be up to date with OS releases, if that's important to you. Everything else I've read says that even the old Evo 4G is better.
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The EVO 4g is not better than the nexus s. The only advantage it has is the screen size. Granted the only large gain you get with the nexus s is the GPU.
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The EVO 4g is not better than the nexus s. The only advantage it has is the screen size. Granted the only large gain you get with the nexus s is the GPU.
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GPU being slightly better doesn't mean its a better phone overall. I play with both phones on the daily and its not a night and day difference......its still old technology either way.
Well thanks everyone.
I have decided to go with the Evo 3D.
The two big breakers for me were:
Nexus S is made by Samsung.... mehh..
and that it's... made by Samsung.
I've played with it a little.. it feels VERY cheap.
I'm going to upgrade to the new Evo.
Thank you all.
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GPU being slightly better doesn't mean its a better phone overall. I play with both phones on the daily and its not a night and day difference......its still old technology either way.
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Slightly better? Its 4-5x as powerful and on par with today's dual cores. The Nexus S has okay hardware, slight but needed upgrade over the EVO because of the GPU. CPU wise it'll perform about the same as dual cores until Android and its apps gets proper support; by then there will be GPU acceleration and since the NS' GPU is reallly good, you won't notice a visual difference anyway.
That said, newer phones will be better on paper but the Nexus S is all about software. You can bet on the Nexus S having Ice Cream months before the 3D or SGS. I personally like my NS (was going to get the Sprint N1 over the EVO 4G before it was cancelled but have a ATT N1) and will jump immediately to the next Nexus. Will never own another non Nexus Android phone.
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oooooo, newest software, ooooooo. /thread.
bwahahaha, gb isn't a big increase over froyo just as it wasnt a big increase over donut/eclair with the exception of the jit.
yes new software is nice but on vanilla you see no difference
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oooooo, newest software, ooooooo. /thread.
bwahahaha, gb isn't a big increase over froyo just as it wasnt a big increase over donut/eclair with the exception of the jit.
yes new software is nice but on vanilla you see no difference
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You expect that to be true with ICS? Anyway, get ready to watch the Nexus S and Nexus 3 running a stable build of ICS for 6 months before any non Nexus phone. If you thought CM 7 was buggy, get ready to see what GPU acceleration does to porting.
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NewZJ said:
oooooo, newest software, ooooooo. /thread.
bwahahaha, gb isn't a big increase over froyo just as it wasnt a big increase over donut/eclair with the exception of the jit.
yes new software is nice but on vanilla you see no difference
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Ice Cream will be a fairly big leap. Imagine going from Cupcake to Froyo...
Where did I hear Nexus S2/S+ in July?
Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.
LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted
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LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted
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That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?
Nope...I'm holding out because I am not impressed at all with the evo 3d. Waiting for the galaxy s II
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That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?
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Remember dates are crazy and that is why they change so much.
And the photon has everything I want. but mainly the wiimote attachment and HDMI mirroring. All the HD games are also really nice.
With my old Vibrant the wiimote would not connect and kinda bummed me with all the games I could play VIA my TV. So the Photon fits what I have been wanting for a long time. Also the dock and productivity apps sound pretty nice as well.
Not gonna hold off for a standard that may or may not come in some undetermined amount of time.
I'm just not upgrading because:
A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
B) Full NAND write has not been achieved. I love my AOSP.
C) Samsung's next generation looks promising and the Photon wouldn't be bad if they unlock them bootloaders.
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A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
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lol
same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.
I personally am holding out until it gets rooted with some good support behind it. 4G sucks in my area so it doesnt matter regardless.
Heres to hoping good things come to the EVO4G with the kernel release from HTC. I'm personally holding out to see if that support picks up on the 4G before leaving for the 3D. MikG is holding me out and enjoying the ride.
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Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.
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I was excited about it when i heard about the phone but once i played with it, i realized that it's not that big of a difference from the OG EVO . Everything it can do my OG can do it better with the right ROM and Tweaks outside the 3D of course so i'm sticking with me EVO until something wayyyyyy better comes along .
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same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.l
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That hardware would have to step up to be a piece of crap, that's how bad it is.
To those saying the hardware isn't a great improvement would be wrong..its a great improvement ..even after stretching my og EVO to its limits it cannot compare to the 3d out of the box..you may say " what can the 3d do that the og cant" um I'm.not really sure but it just does said things better and smoother and faster..its very noticible with games etc... Those who are holding out due to root...well I understand that..when it is rooted it will be an incredible beast..as far as the photon ..I would rather take my og back..I.dislike MOTOblur ..
I am running my og evo4g with synergy Rom and it is awesome. They incorporated sense 3 into it and I love it. From what I can tell it has made my software basically the same as the 3d. I can't wait to see what the synergy team does with the EVO3d hardware. I'm not due for upgrade til 2012 oct anyway so I'm happy with my synergized EVO til then
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The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly
Yeah I have both phones and my OG EVO is just fine with synergy. I don't really like the EVO 3d design. Screen seems smaller due to stretching height and taking away width. I also don't like the back cover at all. Seems badly designed. The software seems to be running st a low frame rate also. Doesn't seem like a big upgrade to me. I know Im going to be labeled a troll and tons of retarded pics will be coming but oh well. The 3d seems like a gimmick and its fun for all of an hour. High scores mean nothing to me so please save the quadrant argument. Coming from a older feature phone or even a hero would be an upgrade but from the EVO to 3d, it doesn't make much sense in my opinion. Before I get chewed, this is my opinion. Maybe it will change in the next couple weeks but right now its where I stand. Oh and I didn't have to start a new thread to say this. That's not a shot at the OP either. I just see all the hate on the 3s aide of this site and thought I would add a disclaimer to my statements.
I'll save my upgrade for something different. Sense is getting a little boring.
On day to.day tasks you won't see much of a difference..I mean how much faster can it get..the one thing I will say though is that I feel my 4G is stretched to its limits and that the hardware is getting old..the soc is more than twice as powerful and the.same.can be said of the gpu..I think that eventually the differences between the phones will become apparent . That being said the 3d does have some bugs to work out..one in particular that drives me crazy is when I'm typing...if.u.scroll or touch the screen in anyway it brings up like the edit cut and paste icon..it always happens ..also I can't seem the hit the space key without pressing the period button..those are minor gripes that I'm sure will be worked out
I'm sure the EVO3D will be a total beast once full root is accomplished, I don't doubt that at all, but as is, my fully rooted, custom rom, kernel, and tweaked EVO4G is as fast if not faster in some respects to the stock EVO3D.
Obviously the EVO3D is superior when it comes to gaming and watching flash content, but aside from that, my launcher transitions faster and much smoother than the EVO3D, my browser appears just as fast in general use, apps load just as fast, etc.
The EVO3D is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but until full root is accomplished it is being held back from realizing its true potential.
I read that temp-root has been accomplished though and some have even been able to overclock the processor to 1.8 GHz, which is pretty insane. I'm sure the phone is buttery smooth at those speeds.
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The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly
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Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.
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Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.
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so, what is it like going from an 8.0 camera to a 5.0? jw
I'm using kingsrom longed London rls2 odex and it is the fastes ROM I have ever used.
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This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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Use a 3D, and you'll see the difference, it's night and day.
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