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Cnet Prizefight - Epic vs. Evo

http://reviews.cnet.com/2722-6452_7-774.html?tag=rb_content;carouselMain
Nothing groundbreaking, but a fun vid. They give Evo a slight edge.

nice video..good stuff...

The fact that HTC is about to release an update for the EVO after their froyo update, and Samsung hasn't even gotten Froyo yet is enough for me to put the EVO way in the lead.

donatom3 said:
The fact that HTC is about to release an update for the EVO after their froyo update, and Samsung hasn't even gotten Froyo yet is enough for me to put the EVO way in the lead.
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This and the fact that flagship HTC phones always get 10x the community support.
The insides (hardware/specs) of the Epic 4G are way better but outside (software/build) is just blah.

Award Tour said:
This and the fact that flagship HTC phones always get 10x the community support.
The insides (hardware/specs) of the Epic 4G are way better but outside (software/build) is just blah.
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^ Hero vs. Moment all over again. I'll never make the mistake of choosing Samsung over HTC again.

donatom3 said:
The fact that HTC is about to release an update for the EVO after their froyo update, and Samsung hasn't even gotten Froyo yet is enough for me to put the EVO way in the lead.
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To defend the epic it hasn't been out to long. How long did it take HTC to get out froyo for the evo...what 2 plus months. The community for the Epic too is far ahead of what the community was a the same time for the Hero. So if it is that important to you that you have a larger e-penis then I fully understand your bias and random facts...

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To defend the epic it hasn't been out to long. How long did it take HTC to get out froyo for the evo...what 2 plus months. The community for the Epic too is far ahead of what the community was a the same time for the Hero. So if it is that important to you that you have a larger e-penis then I fully understand your bias and random facts...
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Samsung shouldve just put Froyo on the Epic to begin with...

Blitzpwnage said:
To defend the epic it hasn't been out to long. How long did it take HTC to get out froyo for the evo...what 2 plus months. The community for the Epic too is far ahead of what the community was a the same time for the Hero. So if it is that important to you that you have a larger e-penis then I fully understand your bias and random facts...
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Nope nothing to do with e-penis. Has to do with the fact that I know HTC has better support for their phones than Samsung.
My friend has the epic, I think it has one of the best hardware keyboards out there the Super AMOLED screen is awesome, and the processor is great. With all that being said, I have no faith in Samsung taking care of the phone as much as HTC does.
And if you want to go by your line of thinking the Samsung Galaxy S line has been out longer than the HTC EVO and not ONE of them has Froyo on them officially yet.
HTC has put froyo on quite a few different models so far, and Samsung can't do it on their one line of phones that's supposed to be their top of the line phone which has already shipped 1 million units in the US alone.

Blitzpwnage said:
To defend the epic it hasn't been out to long. How long did it take HTC to get out froyo for the evo...what 2 plus months. The community for the Epic too is far ahead of what the community was a the same time for the Hero. So if it is that important to you that you have a larger e-penis then I fully understand your bias and random facts...
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Yes, but the htc was initially released with android 1.0, and froyo wasn't released for another month. But epic was released 2 months AFTER froyo was released, and they have plenty of time to recode it for froyo and then release it. So in total it's been 3 months since froyo was released and epic doesn't have it atm.

And Sprint/HTC were the first to rollout Froyo. (Google pushed it for the Nexus One).

Before I click the link, knowing cnet I bet they mentioned iPhone several times lol.

Blitzpwnage said:
To defend the epic it hasn't been out to long. How long did it take HTC to get out froyo for the evo...what 2 plus months. The community for the Epic too is far ahead of what the community was a the same time for the Hero. So if it is that important to you that you have a larger e-penis then I fully understand your bias and random facts...
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To debunk you, the Galaxy S line of phones has been out across multiple carriers and countries for as long as the Evo has been out. There are only two minor differences between other Galaxy S phones and the Epic - hardware keyboard and WiMax. They could have pushed out a Froyo update by now but Samsung is just full of fail.

I regret even trying to post in this thread. I forgot it was on the Evo part of this forum and if one bad thing is even voiced or implied about any phone here then your just a total uneducated imbecile...apologies for trying to add some right to your guys left.
Ill go somewhere else.

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I regret even trying to post in this thread. I forgot it was on the Evo part of this forum and if one bad thing is even voiced or implied about any phone here then your just a total uneducated imbecile...apologies for trying to add some right to your guys left.
Ill go somewhere else.
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I was really only upset about the part that you were implying that my opinion had to do with me worrying about the size of my e-penis.
Hardware wise the Galaxy S is undeniably a better phone, but from my experience (and yes I've owned Samsung phones too), Samsung is horrible with software. Back in the old days software wasn't a huge part of cell phones, but today, no matter how good the hardware, bad software will make a phone bad. I'm not implying the Galaxy S software is bad, I actually kinda like touchwiz, but I'm worried about how long Samsung will have people like my friend stuck on 2.1.
I made no opinion on the Galaxy S hacking community since I have no experience on what they're doing.

To end this debate, I have the largest e-penis.
8=================D
Go ahead and lock the thread now

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I was really only upset about the part that you were implying that my opinion had to do with me worrying about the size of my e-penis.
Hardware wise the Galaxy S is undeniably a better phone, but from my experience (and yes I've owned Samsung phones too), Samsung is horrible with software. Back in the old days software wasn't a huge part of cell phones, but today, no matter how good the hardware, bad software will make a phone bad. I'm not implying the Galaxy S software is bad, I actually kinda like touchwiz, but I'm worried about how long Samsung will have people like my friend stuck on 2.1.
I made no opinion on the Galaxy S hacking community since I have no experience on what they're doing.
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To be honest I am worrried about samsungs support too. I really want them o support it. They just released an update. And another one is coming soon for the gps so they are doing something. froyo is just. Little off. I don't even want to talk aboujt gingerbread. Apologies for saying you were trying to enlarge your epenis...immature on my part!

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To be honest I am worrried about samsungs support too. I really want them o support it. They just released an update. And another one is coming soon for the gps so they are doing something. froyo is just. Little off. I don't even want to talk aboujt gingerbread. Apologies for saying you were trying to enlarge your epenis...immature on my part!
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no one here is saying anything about the phone itself. Everyone knows the hardware is at the top of the pyramid. The only reason the evo vs epic threads happen is because of the software portion. We know that evo is behind in hardware, but the software/updates make up for that. And to a normal user, the software part is what matters. The main argument between the evo vs epic thread is about the horrible support samsung has done in the past. No one knows if samsung will turn it around for epic, but it's looking like that so far. (this is coming from seeing an article about a new samsung galaxy S phone coming out, and it looks like the epic will be left behind just like all the other galaxy S line was left with gps/capacitative buttons/etc..
Personally thats why I didn't buy the phone. I'm still within my 30 day limit and can get it in a snap, but I just dont trust samsung, just like the thousands, if not millions of other people, that have gotten screwed by their older phones (instinct mainly).
but then again, even if samsung were to release the froyo update, most wouldn't switch because of the development support here. If froyo is released, and if htc doesn't release gingerbread to us before that, then I will admit that the epic is a better phone from top to bottom (minus the screen, 4.3 beats the **** out of anything), but I just don't see that happening.

both are great phones but it comes down to this
physical keyboard

From my own experience, the epic was an epic fail. I had one the day they were released and my touch buttons didn't respond unless I put a considerable amount of force on em. My wife got one the same day and her epic didn't have that problem, so I thought I can live with it, but alas, it got to the point where it wouldn't respond at all at times. But, that wasn't the deal breaker. The slide mechanism started coming loose and I could feel the screen flopping as I typed which was unbearable to I returned it for another.
The Second Epic I had seemed okay, or so I thought. I brought it home charged it, ran through the setup and yada yada and everything was kosher. Until I tried to charge it while at work. I almost ran it dead and plugged it in, an hour later I went to check on it and it had the battery symbol with a thermometer flashing. Tried to pick it up and it was burning hot. Unplugged, let it cool, turned it on and it was so laggy I couldn't even get the dialer to come up. So I returned that one too, lucky for me they just had a new shipment of Evos come in so I snatched one up while I could.
Two epics to one evo, my money's on the Evo.

Im jumping onto the Evo!!!! I am returning my Epic tmmrw and then ordering an Evo, I just need a PHONE and not a supercomputer in my pocket, not saying the Evo isnt great and fast, I just dont need what the Epic has to offer at this time, community is more important than the Screen hahaha
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Two epics to one evo, my money's on the Evo.
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Im on my second Epic, and switching to Evo too.

I feel like the Evo just got left in the dust...

Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...

That's technology for you.

danman132x said:
Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
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Smartphones now are what computers used to be in terms of getting outdated.
Technically speaking computers are still outdated by time they come out or 6 months after but for people like me the improvements aren't enough to make want to switch. Personally I'm happy to upgrade my computer every three years.
However, I remember when the advancements in computers was such that I felt the way you do now about the Evo.
But look at it this way. Phones have a long way to go before we'll probably be happy to keep what we have for a few years. Plus upgrading phones is cheaper than computers or most computers anyway.
The Evo still has and probably will maintain a strong fan base and development community for a while so don't worry.
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Yup New technology comes out every 6 months
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That's how it will always be. Actually though, I was really excited that they're stepping up so quickly. It will make it harder for Apple to keep up, which leads to more high quality development for Android.

evo was dated the day it was released lol sad

danman132x said:
Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
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So go get the thunderbolt and have fun for the next 20 months...
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Please explain what feature or features are missing from the Evo! Im not sure what more could be asked from a smart phone. Most of the new phones coming out just have sales pitch stats. Just like the HDMI out is on the Evo. I know alot of people with the Evo and not a single one has or ever will use the feature.
Just my 2 cents.
P.S. Android will always be pushed to have higher specs to improve performance when all that is needed would be Hardware acceleration.
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There are two types of phones, experimental and obsolete.
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Just remember what phone started all this.
give the evo some credit for effing sakes, sheesh
i can whip out my evo in public and i still get people questioning me.. sure, us enthusiasts think the phone is outdated but theres millions of people that would be in awe of such a pwerful big screen phone the evo is.
but thats technology. once they see we're willing to give up dollars for a 6month upgrade, then the manufacturers and cell providers will start dishing them out.
that time is now.. and the mobile market will now be much more competitive and will bring on more and better technology so we can CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME.

technically the evo is outdated. it's beyond 6 months old now. trust me as im already looking into my next phone.

danman132x said:
Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
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The HTC Thunderbolt won't be released until the end of March, and it's only improvements over the EVO are an SLCD screen and a marginally faster processor. Considering the EVO will be 9 months old in March, I'm not too upset.
I was upset, however, when I purchased the Hero in Oct. 2009 and a month later the original Droid was released. For comparison proposes, the Hero was 9 months old when the EVO was released and the EVO was a big step up from the Hero, whereas the Thunderbolt is only a marginal improvement.
Therefore, you shouldn't be so down and out about these upcoming phones. Most won't be released until the summer, anyway.
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TorxT3D said:
Just remember what phone started all this.
give the evo some cedit for effing sakes, sheesh
i can whip out my evo in public and i still get people questioning me.. sure, us enthusiasts think the phone is outdated but theres millions of people that would be in awe of such a pwerful big screen phone the evo is.
but thats technology. once they see we're willing to give up dollars for a 6month upgrade, then the manufacturers and cell providers will start dishing them out.
that time is now.. and the mobile market will now be much more competitive and will bring on more and better technology so we can CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME.
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Well said. And with the poster earlier, I agree it looks like smart phones are following in the steps of computers. Technology comes out so fast for them it's unbelievable, but I will be plenty happy with my Evo for a time to come. It's plenty fast for me. Same with my Laptop, about 2 years old now, but still works great, and why get rid of something that has no problems. It's just human desire to have the latest and greatest, but I'll live with it now. I got my Evo in November, plenty of time after it came out, and it is a HUGE step up from my Hero. It will have the power to do what I want with it, plus experimenting with it and always updating ROM's etc keeps it plenty fresh for me.

danman132x said:
Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
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Welcome to the 21st Century.
When the EVO was available for retail it was already outdated. You are not a slave to the phone. There will always be choices.

I think I'm going to hold on to my evo until android rolls out a full hardware acceleration version..

Some people are never satisfied.
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Technology moves fast and I generally keep pace with it. Thats the main reason I said I know im not going to have this evo much longer. If I have to switch carriers so be it.

Technology will always outdate itself after a little bit, but in terms of the new specs coming out, they aren't as rEVOlutionary (I love that little pun there) as the Evo/Incredible release of last June. Before those phones, people only dreamed of Nexus 1-style phones. Then the Evo and the Incredible came out and blew the market away. The Evo especially. Huge screen, 1Ghz processor, ffc, kickstand, a good amount of ram. We're going to get Gingerbread for sure.
So when you look at it, the phones coming out aren't as much better than the Evo as the Evo was to it's competition last June. I mean there were 512Mhz phones and THAT was the biggest phone. The Evo is twice that. The phones coming out now aren't twice the Evo.
Relax, you're phone is still high end and it'll be a long time before the Evo will be considered "mid range". That's why I bought one in January, because I know I'll still have it next January (unless something ridiculous happens, like I get rich and can afford every phone on Sprint).

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Technology will always outdate itself after a little bit, but in terms of the new specs coming out, they aren't as rEVOlutionary (I love that little pun there) as the Evo/Incredible release of last June. Before those phones, people only dreamed of Nexus 1-style phones. Then the Evo and the Incredible came out and blew the market away. The Evo especially. Huge screen, 1Ghz processor, ffc, kickstand, a good amount of ram. We're going to get Gingerbread for sure.
So when you look at it, the phones coming out aren't as much better than the Evo as the Evo was to it's competition last June. I mean there were 512Mhz phones and THAT was the biggest phone. The Evo is twice that. The phones coming out now aren't twice the Evo.
Relax, you're phone is still high end and it'll be a long time before the Evo will be considered "mid range". That's why I bought one in January, because I know I'll still have it next January (unless something ridiculous happens, like I get rich and can afford every phone on Sprint).
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Yea but how revolutionary it was in June of last year doesnt really mean much to a gadget freak like myself.

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I mean there were 512Mhz phones and THAT was the biggest phone. The Evo is twice that. The phones coming out now aren't twice the Evo..
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The EVO came out months after the first 1 GHz phones (HD2, N1, Incredible, etc.).
Re: these new phone:
A single Cortex A9 core is about 25% faster than an A8, now add a second core. Then add the fact that the GPU is somewhere around 4x better. Then add 2x the RAM. Then add 35% more pixels on the display. Than add 16x more internal storage. Then add 25% more battery. That's what the Atrix is compared to the EVO. It's indisputably next gen and gaps it by a ton.

HTC next gen phones; where are you ?

My hopes keep being put down after each big phone technology show First was CES in January, and not a thing for Sprint really ( meaning an upgrade to our beloved EVO ). Now it is MWC, and I was hoping for some announcement or rumors of the EVO 2 being in the shadows, with at least some spec's leaked out, but nothing, just some slightly updated HTC phones;
HTC refreshes Android lineup;
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-refreshes-android-lineup-with-incredible-s-desire-s-and-wil/
The next big phone show is CITA in March, and I believe that is where our EVO made it's first debut. Lets keep fingers and toes crossed for the EVO2 there.

Zorachus said:
My hopes keep being put down after each big phone technology show First was CES in January, and not a thing for Sprint really ( meaning an upgrade to our beloved EVO ). Now it is MWC, and I was hoping for some announcement or rumors of the EVO 2 being in the shadows, with at least some spec's leaked out, but nothing, just some slightly updated HTC phones;
HTC refreshes Android lineup;
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/htc-refreshes-android-lineup-with-incredible-s-desire-s-and-wil/
The next big phone show is CITA in March, and I believe that is where our EVO made it's first debut. Lets keep fingers and toes crossed for the EVO2 there.
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yeah and the specs of those newer phones still dont meet up to the Evo really. as i said in the other thread, the next show is our last hope i guess. Hopefully it will be something along the lines of using the newer snapdragon chips with DRM and well get netflix. anything less would be a disappointment really.

What in the crap. All these other companies are making superphones and HTC just barely upgrades all these phones? There's gotta be something going on here.......

Rumor has it....
www.engadget.com/2011/02/14/htc-revolver-a-flagship-honeycomb-phone-for-atandt/
Also if I'm not mistaken, HTC sources all their chips from qualcomm and qualcomm just doesn't have a dualcore chip yet so that's what they're waiting on. Can anyone confirm this?
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The full next generation HTC phone is codenamed "Pyramid" it will have 1.2ghz dual core...double the RAM...double the memory...better screen technology...
It sounds like the perfect device to be the new EVO2...but the strange thing is that T-Mobile is getting this "Pyramid" for a May launch. At least according to the rumors I read.

Samsung flat out kicked HTC's ass at MWC. No ifs ands or buts about it.

htc's next phone needs to keep hiding, the longer it takes to come out, the better it will be and the evo isn't unbearable yet

No wonder Sprint had a big event for the Echo. There isn't crap out there that will serve as the next flagship phone for Sprint. One last mobile event to go so hopefully I'll have egg on my face.

Check out HTC's page on facebook. Getting ripped to shreds.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/HTC

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yeah and the specs of those newer phones still dont meet up to the Evo really. as i said in the other thread, the next show is our last hope i guess. Hopefully it will be something along the lines of using the newer snapdragon chips with DRM and well get netflix. anything less would be a disappointment really.
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Dont meet up to the EVO? What the hell are you talking about? These phones aren't great compared to the new dual core super phones but they are definitely better than the aged EVO.
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I'm with my Evo
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Let put it all in perspective here. LG, Samsung, and Motorola showed off their v10 and v12 engine cars. HTC add 50 hp to their v8 beast. God help me. Yet, either way anything Samsung comes out with no matter how great the hardware is will be crap. Hence the moment and current galaxy S models that still don't have official Froyo. ;p Sorry I had to take my frustration out on someone.

I have hopes the EVO2 will be announced in March / April. Because Sprint would be silly to keep it too quiet for long otherwise buyers will start looking elsewhere. This Summer some bad ass phones coming out. The HTC Pyramid on T-mobile, and hate to say this but the iPhone5 with 4" screen, dual cote, and a rumored major redesign of iOS adding notifications and widgets. If Sprint doesn't at least announce an EVO2 by June, I will seriously think about that new iPhone5.

It looks like at&t and tmobile will get the nice phones... My mt4g was fast but I prefer my evo.
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I don't know about you guys but would love an evo 2 but my evo is still freakin fast and does everything!
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Htc's showing was a complete f*@king joke
from my phone duh

m4rk0358 said:
Check out HTC's page on facebook. Getting ripped to shreds.
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Just like sprints did
from my phone duh

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I don't know about you guys but would love an evo 2 but my evo is still ****ing still is fast as **** and does everything!
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I do LOVE my EVO, with Myn's RL5 ROM, this phone is a beast, and much better on battery life. But seeing these new devices announced, makes me wonder what we could be playing with soon, I am addicted to cool technology.
I don't want much in an EVO2, mainly a thinner and less bulky device, and hopefully improved battery life, and for sure want GPU acceleration, and a better screen to match something like the Super AMOLED.
But if Sprint keeps quiet on a EVO successor, I will seriously look elsewhere this June. Because come this Summer, the EVO1 will be outdated compared to the other high end devices from Apple, Samsung, Motorola...

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Htc's showing was a complete f*@king joke
from my phone duh
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True that....its actually quite amusing seeing a company so great get raped by someone like samsung..lol here's to hoping CTIA brings us great volumes of wealth may the gods bless us with patience!
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Actually the best phone for 2011 will most likely be the Nexus-3.0 due out at the end of the year, it will ship with the newest Android OS, and have some amazing technology from what I hear. But if it is for T-Mobile only, screw that, their service sucks by me, and really blows inside buildings.
I hope the Nexus-3.0 is as future proof as the Nexus-One was, it came out with hardware that was like 6 months ahead of it's time. And I have heard that Motorola wants to get in on the Nexus game.
I am still thinking the top phones for 2011 will be;
- EVO2
- iPhone5
- Nexus-3.0

[Q] Anybody else holding out on upgrading to the 3D

Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.

LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted

reddragon72 said:
LTE will start rolling out in Q4 of 2012. There were several reports about that date being solid because the Wimax contract with Clear will end Dec31 2012 and Sprint will be ready to make the switch. This is all based on contract dates and spectrum requests made through FCC by Sprint.
I just picked up the Evo on a new 2 year, but I am going to use the 30 day money back thing to switch up to the Motorola Photon 4G and ride that till the end of my contract. I'll still be in this forum though as my GF and son have the Evo 4G and I will be swapping them out to a better rom once the shipping 2.3.3 is rooted
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That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?

Nope...I'm holding out because I am not impressed at all with the evo 3d. Waiting for the galaxy s II
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AdriVelazquez said:
That's not to far off, I actually just recently got my contract in April, if the date is set in stone, it aligns perfectly with my next upgrade that could utilize LTE.
Any specific reason for the switch to Photon 4G?
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Remember dates are crazy and that is why they change so much.
And the photon has everything I want. but mainly the wiimote attachment and HDMI mirroring. All the HD games are also really nice.
With my old Vibrant the wiimote would not connect and kinda bummed me with all the games I could play VIA my TV. So the Photon fits what I have been wanting for a long time. Also the dock and productivity apps sound pretty nice as well.

Not gonna hold off for a standard that may or may not come in some undetermined amount of time.
I'm just not upgrading because:
A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
B) Full NAND write has not been achieved. I love my AOSP.
C) Samsung's next generation looks promising and the Photon wouldn't be bad if they unlock them bootloaders.

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A) I never buy technology when its first been released. I did that one time, Palm Pre. Never again.
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lol
same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.
I personally am holding out until it gets rooted with some good support behind it. 4G sucks in my area so it doesnt matter regardless.
Heres to hoping good things come to the EVO4G with the kernel release from HTC. I'm personally holding out to see if that support picks up on the 4G before leaving for the 3D. MikG is holding me out and enjoying the ride.

AdriVelazquez said:
Because sprint might use LTE and WiMAX? If this happens by the end of the, the next Evo that supports both will far surpass the current product.
I already have high hopes for the next Evo.
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I was excited about it when i heard about the phone but once i played with it, i realized that it's not that big of a difference from the OG EVO . Everything it can do my OG can do it better with the right ROM and Tweaks outside the 3D of course so i'm sticking with me EVO until something wayyyyyy better comes along .

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same here. OS is good, but the hardware is just horrible.l
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That hardware would have to step up to be a piece of crap, that's how bad it is.

To those saying the hardware isn't a great improvement would be wrong..its a great improvement ..even after stretching my og EVO to its limits it cannot compare to the 3d out of the box..you may say " what can the 3d do that the og cant" um I'm.not really sure but it just does said things better and smoother and faster..its very noticible with games etc... Those who are holding out due to root...well I understand that..when it is rooted it will be an incredible beast..as far as the photon ..I would rather take my og back..I.dislike MOTOblur ..

I am running my og evo4g with synergy Rom and it is awesome. They incorporated sense 3 into it and I love it. From what I can tell it has made my software basically the same as the 3d. I can't wait to see what the synergy team does with the EVO3d hardware. I'm not due for upgrade til 2012 oct anyway so I'm happy with my synergized EVO til then
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The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly

Yeah I have both phones and my OG EVO is just fine with synergy. I don't really like the EVO 3d design. Screen seems smaller due to stretching height and taking away width. I also don't like the back cover at all. Seems badly designed. The software seems to be running st a low frame rate also. Doesn't seem like a big upgrade to me. I know Im going to be labeled a troll and tons of retarded pics will be coming but oh well. The 3d seems like a gimmick and its fun for all of an hour. High scores mean nothing to me so please save the quadrant argument. Coming from a older feature phone or even a hero would be an upgrade but from the EVO to 3d, it doesn't make much sense in my opinion. Before I get chewed, this is my opinion. Maybe it will change in the next couple weeks but right now its where I stand. Oh and I didn't have to start a new thread to say this. That's not a shot at the OP either. I just see all the hate on the 3s aide of this site and thought I would add a disclaimer to my statements.
I'll save my upgrade for something different. Sense is getting a little boring.

On day to.day tasks you won't see much of a difference..I mean how much faster can it get..the one thing I will say though is that I feel my 4G is stretched to its limits and that the hardware is getting old..the soc is more than twice as powerful and the.same.can be said of the gpu..I think that eventually the differences between the phones will become apparent . That being said the 3d does have some bugs to work out..one in particular that drives me crazy is when I'm typing...if.u.scroll or touch the screen in anyway it brings up like the edit cut and paste icon..it always happens ..also I can't seem the hit the space key without pressing the period button..those are minor gripes that I'm sure will be worked out

I'm sure the EVO3D will be a total beast once full root is accomplished, I don't doubt that at all, but as is, my fully rooted, custom rom, kernel, and tweaked EVO4G is as fast if not faster in some respects to the stock EVO3D.
Obviously the EVO3D is superior when it comes to gaming and watching flash content, but aside from that, my launcher transitions faster and much smoother than the EVO3D, my browser appears just as fast in general use, apps load just as fast, etc.
The EVO3D is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but until full root is accomplished it is being held back from realizing its true potential.
I read that temp-root has been accomplished though and some have even been able to overclock the processor to 1.8 GHz, which is pretty insane. I'm sure the phone is buttery smooth at those speeds.

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The 4G is a great phone ..I loved the experience I had with it and miss flashing a new ROM every fee weeks..the devs are fantastic and have kept that thing going strong ...I will always think of my og EVO fondly
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Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.

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Yup Same here... Before I left the 4G, I was on the MiKG 2.2 and that beast was flying which made me really wait a few before getting the EVO3D, but I know hardware wise this 3D will really be a beast once everything is all said and done.
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so, what is it like going from an 8.0 camera to a 5.0? jw

I'm using kingsrom longed London rls2 odex and it is the fastes ROM I have ever used.
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This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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This ROM is sick. Feels like I have a 3d.
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Use a 3D, and you'll see the difference, it's night and day.
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Need some advice please

Hey guys,
Due to a recent disagreement with Verizon (I said they suck, they said they don't), I will be switching over to Sprint.
The problem I have now is trying to pick a phone. Everyone keeps telling me get the Epic 4g Touch but there is something about it I don't like. I am drawn to the Evo 4g because it already has a developer base and cm7 support. I'm not a poweruser, I just like my phone to be snappy when I'm running a couple of apps. Is this phone even worth considering, or do you guys think it's kind of at the end of its life cycle and I should check out a different device?
Thanks for any responses!

Honestly the evo runs fine for what you are looking for, but considering you are signing a new contract with sprint you might as well try for a newer phone. If you don't like it return it within the 14 days or if you keep it for more and decided you still don't like it you can most likely sell/trade it for cash and evo 4g. Just my opinion, but right now the evo 4g does everything I want so I have no complaints.
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Here's the problem....the evo is a great phone but its over a year old. Signing up with sprint means you won't be available for an upgrade for two years. By that time this phone will be extremely old and no Bueno. Now if u buy one for cheap off eBay or Craigslist then cool do that and ull be able to get an upgraded phone whenever the quad core lte phones come out next year. If not then get the newest greatest phone out right now cause atleast it won't be as out dated as the evo will be when ur next upgrade rolls around. I've heard great things about the epic 4 g touch and evo 3d and photon. This is just my opinion. I love my evo just looking down the road u know

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Hey guys,
Due to a recent disagreement with Verizon (I said they suck, they said they don't), I will be switching over to Sprint.
The problem I have now is trying to pick a phone. Everyone keeps telling me get the Epic 4g Touch but there is something about it I don't like. I am drawn to the Evo 4g because it already has a developer base and cm7 support. I'm not a poweruser, I just like my phone to be snappy when I'm running a couple of apps. Is this phone even worth considering, or do you guys think it's kind of at the end of its life cycle and I should check out a different device?
Thanks for any responses!
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Tell you what, you go get that epic 4g touch and I'll trade you my mint evo with all the extras. ;p
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Lol. Deal. Thanks for the responses guys. I'll search for a cheap one on craigslist and wait for the next gen phones.
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go with the evo

yea i was at the same crossroad...evo 4g or 3d? i chose the 4g because of the screen size...im a movie watcher and i have pretty large hands so i needed the biggest screen with the cheap cost...now im a good rom flasher and my phone stays charged for more than 48 hours....ive learned alot about the evo from this site...its like the devs here cherish the evo more than anything lol so my advice....evo all the way

The htc evo 4g WAS the best phone that sprint has. Until the samsung galaxy s II came out and another i cant remember the name of.. there also is the evo 3d which is newer and has a better looking ui.. SO basicly i would go with one of those. but the 3d with the camera is just a video trick..

I have an EVO 4G but I've played with the Samsung Galaxy SII and I'd recommend it going forward. The phone is super light, the screen size is a bit larger, which you may not like, but it's also dual core and really snappy.

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The htc evo 4g WAS the best phone that sprint has. Until the samsung galaxy s II came out and another i cant remember the name of.. there also is the evo 3d which is newer and has a better looking ui.. SO basicly i would go with one's of those. but the 3d with the camera is just a video trick..
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Not to disagree with ya, so don't get me wrong. Hardware wise, as in processors, screen resolution and such, I absolutely agree with your statement.
However, as far as the best phone on Sprint, it's still the OG Evo. Here's why, (IMHO) 1) best dev support of any device offered by sprint. 2) the og's radios are superior to the e4gt, and the 3d. 3) no hboot 1.5 problems like the 3d, and no jigs or Odin, like the e4gt.
In my opinion, formed from reading the development forums of nearly every high end device available, aside from 1 or 2 phones offered by other carriers, the E4G is the most complete well rounded phone. Sure there are devices with way faster dual core processors, tons more ram and system memory, but they all seem to be flawed. Either weak radios, crappy GPS, wifi, or Bluetooth, and some just have cheap craftsmanship.
We lucked out my friends. I doubt we will see another phone as well rounded and game changing as the Evo. I think HTC realised that by making a phone that is too good, they cant keep selling as many phones. People got the evo and held on to it. Thus slowing down the new phone upgrade cycle. I imagine that factors in to why the Sammy GS2's in the U.S. fall short of the international version.
I'm sitting on two upgrades right now and will be, 'till we get lte and (fingers crossed) quad core.
Just my opinion, point out the phone we have available that doesn't have any shortcomings compared to the OG and I'll go get one tomorrow.
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I would get a iphone 4s anf sell it to buy another phone. Apple fans will give u like $400+evo for a 4s. I would say you should get a evo 3d. From my personal experience its just better than the og evo in every way but price. U wouldnt go wrong with a epic touch is samsung is ur thing but sense UI is better for everyday users.