I'm due for an upgrade from an Evo.
I have 2 choices, Nexus S 4G or Evo 3D.
I've had the Evo since the first day it came out and loved it since. So I'm kinda hesitant on wanting to give it up.. so I'm thinking Evo 3D might be a nice upgrade but I keep hearing Nexus is a better phone.
Which one would you choose, and why?
I'm a sense type of Guy so I would stick with HTC. I think the 3d is faster than the nexus too.
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Going from an evo to a nexus really isn't an upgrade.......get the 3D (dual core).
Nexus is and lighter, and supposedly guaranteed to be up to date with OS releases, if that's important to you. Everything else I've read says that even the old Evo 4G is better.
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Nexus is and lighter, and supposedly guaranteed to be up to date with OS releases, if that's important to you. Everything else I've read says that even the old Evo 4G is better.
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As long as you root I wouldn't worry about the OS. My girl used her upgrade on a nexus s and its no way better than my evo IMO. Plus it has radio/signal issues based on what everyone has been complaining about. Why go backwards?
Nexus S
*no SD card slot (fail)
*no HDMI
*radio issues
*Samsung lol
*many more
I say go in the store play with both then decide what you want
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Also if you don't like either just wait there are other phones coming out as well ask people here if gonna get a bunch of crazy stuff go with ur gut n what u like man that's all
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Nexus is and lighter, and supposedly guaranteed to be up to date with OS releases, if that's important to you. Everything else I've read says that even the old Evo 4G is better.
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Lol oh really? Like what? Everything I've read from actual users says otherwise
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The only thing the NS has over the EVO really is battery life. EVO 3d is the latest and greatest, NS is 2009/2010 tech under the hood, already outdated IMO.
It had a nicer body? I do wish the evo wasn't so square and more like the my touch or the upcoming sensation in body type.
I went with the Evo 4G over the Nexus S...No HDMI on the Nexus was a killer and I really like this kick stand
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Lol oh really? Like what? Everything I've read from actual users says otherwise
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Well, the user experience is what counts, of course. But wit the Nexus S you're giving up the HDMI out, you're giving up the kickstand, you're giving up 1/2" of screen realestate, you're giving up an SD card slot (and potentially 16 GB of additional storage) and I've heard the Nexus S isn't any faster.
I do like the form factor (size, shape and weight) though, to be honest and would probably have gone with the Nexus S instead of my Evo had it been available at Sprint when I signed my contract (I asked about it at the time but they coulnd't give me a firm release date).
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The EVO 4g is not better than the nexus s. The only advantage it has is the screen size. Granted the only large gain you get with the nexus s is the GPU.
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The EVO 4g is not better than the nexus s. The only advantage it has is the screen size. Granted the only large gain you get with the nexus s is the GPU.
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GPU being slightly better doesn't mean its a better phone overall. I play with both phones on the daily and its not a night and day difference......its still old technology either way.
Well thanks everyone.
I have decided to go with the Evo 3D.
The two big breakers for me were:
Nexus S is made by Samsung.... mehh..
and that it's... made by Samsung.
I've played with it a little.. it feels VERY cheap.
I'm going to upgrade to the new Evo.
Thank you all.
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GPU being slightly better doesn't mean its a better phone overall. I play with both phones on the daily and its not a night and day difference......its still old technology either way.
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Slightly better? Its 4-5x as powerful and on par with today's dual cores. The Nexus S has okay hardware, slight but needed upgrade over the EVO because of the GPU. CPU wise it'll perform about the same as dual cores until Android and its apps gets proper support; by then there will be GPU acceleration and since the NS' GPU is reallly good, you won't notice a visual difference anyway.
That said, newer phones will be better on paper but the Nexus S is all about software. You can bet on the Nexus S having Ice Cream months before the 3D or SGS. I personally like my NS (was going to get the Sprint N1 over the EVO 4G before it was cancelled but have a ATT N1) and will jump immediately to the next Nexus. Will never own another non Nexus Android phone.
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oooooo, newest software, ooooooo. /thread.
bwahahaha, gb isn't a big increase over froyo just as it wasnt a big increase over donut/eclair with the exception of the jit.
yes new software is nice but on vanilla you see no difference
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oooooo, newest software, ooooooo. /thread.
bwahahaha, gb isn't a big increase over froyo just as it wasnt a big increase over donut/eclair with the exception of the jit.
yes new software is nice but on vanilla you see no difference
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You expect that to be true with ICS? Anyway, get ready to watch the Nexus S and Nexus 3 running a stable build of ICS for 6 months before any non Nexus phone. If you thought CM 7 was buggy, get ready to see what GPU acceleration does to porting.
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oooooo, newest software, ooooooo. /thread.
bwahahaha, gb isn't a big increase over froyo just as it wasnt a big increase over donut/eclair with the exception of the jit.
yes new software is nice but on vanilla you see no difference
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Ice Cream will be a fairly big leap. Imagine going from Cupcake to Froyo...
Where did I hear Nexus S2/S+ in July?
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Which is a better phone all around? I was thinking about getting a Nexus.
*PLEASE VOTE AND GIVE YOUR OPINION *
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just phone wise definitely nexus S.
however it doesnt have a sd card slot and the screen is abit smaller.
also consider the carrier and if you would prefer that over sprint.
I would wait till they announce the Nexus S on Sprint and make sure the specs are the same. I would assume they are with the exception of adding a CDMA radio with wimax.
Definitely Nexus S.
Evo is nearly 2 generations old. (and RAPIDLY showing its' age)
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Definitely Nexus S.
Evo is nearly 2 generations old. (and RAPIDLY showing its' age)
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I just got mine a couple months ago and I don't real think its showing it age. I have had all the Verizon big ones like the X and the Inc and I know that they are also not the newest phones but there is always something that will be a bit better and faster. The biggest thing that I like is that Sprint is truly unlimited. Im almost up to 9 gigs with 4 days left in my cycle. I need unlimited because I had to get rid of my home internet due to lack of work in my business right now. The Nexus S is a nice phone but really..no sd card?...and I had the Fascinate with verizon and I had to depend on devs for gps fixes and usable roms but I know the S is a google phone so it shouldn't indure the lack of Samsung updates. Its all of what you like and which service does well for you in your area also.
Oh lord not another one of these threads :rolls eyes: lol
If nexus s doesn't have an sdcard slot(hopefully it does) how is it even a competitor with other smart phones out there. I'd pick my evo all day because of the huge ass screen and its an HTC. Evo 3D sounds like a winner(based on rumors).
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Oh lord not another one of these threads :rolls eyes: lol
If nexus s doesn't have an sdcard slot(hopefully it does) how is it even a competitor with other smart phones out there. I'd pick my evo all day because of the huge ass screen and its an HTC. Evo 3D sounds like a winner(based on rumors).
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+1 Screen and HTC
16GB of internal storage is a lot. If you need more that's fine, but 16 GB should satisfy a ton of people.
Edit: Things better on the Nexus S.
GPU: PowerVR SGX 540 can compete with the Tegra 2, EVO's Adreno 200 barely beats the original 2009 Droid's PowerVR 530.
Cameras: Samsung makes good mobile cameras, HTC includes terrible ones.
Display: SAMOLED > Lousy TFT
Internal Storage: EVO has a microSD slot but has very limited internal storage. Nexus S is capped at 16GB but has way more internal storage for Apps and 16GB is not bad at all.
NFC: I'm sure this will come in handy, will it this year? Maybe not but it's good to have one.
Gyroscope: Better gaming, especially FPS'.
Software: This is tough but you can knock a Google supported phone. Come Ice Cream time, you'll be watching Nexus S users playing with a fully working, HW accelerated OS.
It's just a really tough decision for me bc I'm thinking about getting the Nexus and giving the Evo to my girl. Don't get me wrong I love my Evo, I'm just ready for something new!
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16GB of internal storage is a lot. If you need more that's fine, but 16 GB should satisfy a ton of people.
Edit: Things better on the Nexus S.
GPU: PowerVR SGX 540 can compete with the Tegra 2, EVO's Adreno 200 barely beats the original 2009 Droid's PowerVR 530.
Cameras: Samsung makes good mobile cameras, HTC includes terrible ones.
Display: SAMOLED > Lousy TFT
Internal Storage: EVO has a microSD slot but has very limited internal storage. Nexus S is capped at 16GB but has way more internal storage for Apps and 16GB is not bad at all.
NFC: I'm sure this will come in handy, will it this year? Maybe not but it's good to have one.
Gyroscope: Better gaming, especially FPS'.
Software: This is tough but you can knock a Google supported phone. Come Ice Cream time, you'll be watching Nexus S users playing with a fully working, HW accelerated OS.
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Like i said..there will always be a better phone than what you have but sometimes the network and carrier matter also..If I go 10 miles away from my house with T-Mobile I go to Edge....not on Sprint. In the end it really doesnt matter to me what people decide on..I have to use whats best for me and so does everyone else. If price matters though I'm sure you have seen if your a Bestbuy rewards zone member you can get the S for $99 on a 2 year agreement with the coupon...not a bad deal.
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Like i said..there will always be a better phone than what you have but sometimes the network and carrier matter also..If I go 10 miles away from my house with T-Mobile I go to Edge....not on Sprint. In the end it really doesnt matter to me what people decide on..I have to use whats best for me and so does everyone else. If price matters though I'm sure you have seen if your a Bestbuy rewards zone member you can get the S for $99 on a 2 year agreement with the coupon...not a bad deal.
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The Nexus S (with WiMax) is strongly rumored for Sprint.
If I can manage to keep myself from going to get that Nexus then I may just wait for the new EVO or Nexus 4G.
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Is the nexus s considered the fastest android phone?
It seems to me that the Nexus S is going to be a lot more difficult to root than my EVO was. I used the original Simple Root so I guess that says A LOT!!!
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It seems to me that the Nexus S is going to be a lot more difficult to root than my EVO was. I used the original Simple Root so I guess that says A LOT!!!
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What makes you think that?
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What makes you think that?
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I read through some of the guides and its a lot of stuff that im not too sure I know how to do. It also says that you have to re do clockwork every time you want to flash a ROM...
If the Nexus S hits Sprint, you better believe I'll be selling my EVO to buy one.
1. The earlier you sell your EVO, the more you can get for it.
2. Nexus S will sell for a lot more than the EVO by the time HTC has a dual-core badboy on the market.
You see what I did there?
I'd say Evo, but that's because I've had nothing less than perfectness from my own Evo. However, the Evo 3D was announced/leaked, so I'd wait on that, because truthfully that sounds loads better than the OG Evo. But, anyways, the Nexus S is also (I'd imagine) going to be one of the phones at the top of the list for updates since, as the adds say, it is "pure Google." and they love to roll out updates, whereas the Evo is moving down the ranks with all the new phones announced at MWC and the like. Also the Evo is a beast of a phone, much larger than the Nexus S. It's really hard to define a clear cut answer, just do research and pick the phone that provides what YOU want from it.
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I read through some of the guides and its a lot of stuff that im not too sure I know how to do. It also says that you have to re do clockwork every time you want to flash a ROM...
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Really? Its a Nexus phone... While I personally dont love the Samsung construction of mine, there is something to be said of Nexus.
Part of that is the hack-ability, fastboot oem unlock. Same as N1. Literally two adb commands to root a NexusS, and recovery works just fine. Although I gotta say I miss AmonRa when using my Nexus, I just cant get used to Clockwork...
Both phones rock. NS is far beyond Evo internal wise, but I like the feel and look of my Evo far more. Only knock I have against the Evo (since buying a seidio3500, and having it last 48hours+) is the QSD8650 and Adreno200. Been available since the Eee pc in 2009....Not exactly new tech, and holy poop does my NS do 3d games like a different class of phones compared to my Evo. But then I go to HDMI the ***** to the TV for some N64oid+wiimote and....o yeah...
Edit: Forgot to mention, I think I'm gonna craigslist my NS for something dual core, if that says anything.
^^^^ see that's what I don't understand is the adb commands. How do I open the command prompts?
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Ok, so I have a dilemma. At first, when sprint announced the EVO 3D, to me, there was no question I would get it. After HTC announced a locked bootloader (? clarification on what exactly is locked), I am asking this question. What is better, a stock (worst case scenario) Evo 3D, or a modified Nexus S? I know modifications make a HUGE difference (just ask my HTC Hero ) as far as performance goes, so the simple question is, what would perform better? Gaming is a huge factor for me too-- which is the better gaming device (I actually heard the nexus s has a better video card so I might have my question answered already)?
And obviously, the 3D is garbage to me, so don't take that into consideration. The only thing I hate about the Nexus S that has a draw on the EVO 3D is the 1080p vs SD on the Nexus (which is crazy). If there was even a 720p video capability on the nexus (hopefully by a hack) then I would be content with that.
TIA and sorry if this is a really dumb question!
although the nexus s isnt 720p, the vid/pics are actually quite good. and in all honesty, the "720p" on the evo's 8mp was straight garbage. basically the only real advantage the evo has is the dual core.
also, if u do plan on the ns4g, check out wirefly. they have a special right now, $99 on new contract, $149 on upgrade. no activation/shipping/taxes!
My upgrade isn't until July 1st so i'll have some time before I get my upgrade. As far as the processor goes, which is the real major difference, how much better "real world" performance will the evo3D get over the Nexus S (not meaning benchmarks)?
honestly who says it will? qualcomm "showboated" a 1.5ghz dual core cpu with the new adreno 220 in the gl benchmark, it got only 11 fps better then the stock nexus s. why do i say only? a brand new gpu, a dual core 1.5ghz vs a 1ghz cpu and what many consider outdated hardware, and it only got 11 fps. the evo3d is supposed ot have a 1.2ghz version of this chipset, so even lower performance (stock mind you.. if they hack it it will increase obviously). want more proof that the nexus s is still rockin? go to glbenchmark.com and look at the top devices, the ipad 2 (sgx543) is the top of the list, meanwhile the nexus s is number 5 (SGX540) as the top PHONE (all other devices are tablets).
i dont even consider the evo3d an upgrade for the price they are gunna want for it, meanwhile if you want raw power, best just wait for the samsung galaxy s 2. its been kickin in a lot of doors and take'in a whole lot more names
I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Even after the 3d evo comes out I think the super amoled screen and official Google support will continue to make the nexus s a compelling device.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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I used the Evo since August so for probably about 8 months or so and I just switched to the ns4g with no hesitation and love it. On the Evo I used ADW launcher so I did not even have sense running so for me I got a better faster lighter phone. It was a no-brainer in my opinion and I like the "pure Google experience". I also have two friends that went from the Evo to ns4g and they feel the same. I say take the ns.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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Well I actually have a GB rom on my hero (thats why it's running so much smoother) and I love the vanilla GB look. I can't stand sense, so from a UI standpoint, I already prefer NS>>>E3D
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I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Wouldnt that be the beauty in Android and what makes it what it is? The customization and the limitless options available. The way it can be tailor fitted for the end user? Ultimately isnt that one of the things we love so much about it?
Well...thats why I like it anyway...
You're in limbo......that sucks. What is that, four levels down or five?
Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well, if I feel like I'm upgrading every time I flash (which on my hero, seemingly every flash has been a speed boost), then I'm not opposed to it at all.
On a side note, my brother has his upgrade right now, and he is in town this weekend and I am supposed to help him pick out a phone. I'm gonna try to convince him that the Nexus S is worth the $150 over the LG optimus S, which he thinks he wants cause it's free (waste of an upgrade imo [he's upgrading from a palm that is like 2 years old, so actually, anything is about an upgrade]).
My question to you guys, that will hopefully solve mine and his problem. How is the Nexus S as a two year phone? How well do you think it will hold up down the road? I'm not the kind of guy who can afford to buy a new phone out of contract (paying full price), being a college student, but come upgrade time, I am willing to dish out $200+ (but not much more) on a phone that I will be happy with for 2 years. I know that may seem like a lot to ask for with technology, and it's probably a lot to ask for you guys to predict the future too lol. So, do you think the Nexus S will be dead 2 years from now (when my upgrade following then next upgrade is)? Considering the phone will have been out for 2 and a half years plus, I am wondering this question...
I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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the nexus 1 is still getting official updates, and even then after that. look how long your hero lasted due to the community, you really think that NO ONE will be making anything for it? at the very least it will have cm support for a while.
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I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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Are you thinking about returning it because of the EVO, or is there something about the Nexus S that you don't like? Just curious to hear your opinion.
I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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I would bank on the nexus s to be the way to go. I think carriers and handset makers make new phones outdated themselves (software wise) so they can keep pushing out new phones with the newer software to make more money. Eventually the phone in question will receive an update if they choose to do so maybe 2 months, 6 months, or even a year later. This is why I usually keep getting new phones, just to keep up on the latest software without having to flash all the time dealing with instability and bugs. The nexus line will always get these updates straight from Google with no BS. The nexus specs aren't bad and its fast enough for me. Dual core would be nice but you have to ask your self is it really even needed. The nexus will be up to date for a while I assume with no strings attatched.
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Well what made me go Nexus was two phones. The Samsung Moment and Samsung Epic.
The Moment got crap for support and not even sure to this day if a dev ever fixed the evdo lock ups and terrible GPS.
Then the epic with its crappy eclair gps. Then the delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed Froyo update. Which still had crap gps. That was later fixed. Sorta. The best was when they sent a rep to xda to calm down the pissed off users about the delayed Froyo upgrade we were promised in Nov. What made me jump was this phone already had Gingerbread and Netflix support and know Google wastes no time getting updates out. I love Samsungs hardware but their software division sucks. No more of that jazz.
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Ditto
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I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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no carrier crap = win
I thought i downgraded by giving up my Epic ,but this phone is fast no doubt.
Good morning everyone. I have a delima and would like everyones opinion. I switched from ATT (iPhone) to Sprint Nexus S 4g last weekend. To be honest i am not happy with the Nexus. I know the beauty of this phone is supposed to be the ability to customize and the fact that the phone has no "bloatware" loaded but i am just not thrilled with the phone.
My question is this, would it be a mistake for me to take this phone back and get the Evo Evo 4g.
Thanks in advance for everyones opinion.
returning the nexus
Welcome to Sprint!
I have owned an Evo since it first came out and have loved it. Currently running cyanogenmod.
You are so close to the release date of the Evo 3D you might want to consider that, otherwise I don't think you will be disappointed in the Evo 4G.
Good luck.
As long as you are inside of the 30 return policy you should have no problem trading nexus s for evo.
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Honestly as much as I like my Evo, you won't get as good performance as you would with your Nexus S.
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Welcome to Sprint!
I have owned an Evo since it first came out and have loved it. Currently running cyanogenmod.
You are so close to the release date of the Evo 3D you might want to consider that, otherwise I don't think you will be disappointed in the Evo 4G.
Good luck.
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I realize the 3D is due out soon. My only choice is to hope it is realeased before my 30 days are up and I can trade my phone in. I would be able to trade either the Nexus or the Evo so i will keep my fingers crossed.
How many days do you have left?
Hardware wise the EVO's GPU is absolutely garbage. Its about 4-5x slower than the Nexus S. The NS has the better quality display and 4G behavior is much better too. Otherwise you won't notice much difference.
Software wise the EVO 4G is a dead end compared to the NS. There's pretty much no way HTC is going to update the EVO to ice cream. Not only is the NS going to have it on day one but it'll be fully working too. The EVO will probably get a half working or very buggy port at some point. Plus as always the NS will be first in line for a ton of new Android things. Goggle wallet being a good example.
Bottom line: hardware wise the NS is a marginally better phone with the big advantage of having a GPU that is still comparable to even dual core chips. Software wise its a blow out in favor of the Nexus S.
I came from a EVO 4G and still own a ATT iPhone 4. Coming from a iPhone you'll never find a Android phone that offers a similar level of user experience. But the advantage is in Google services. Getting the Nexus S will keep you up to date and ice cream should narrow the UI/UX gap when it comes. Stepping down to the EVO 4G and sense won't help you much.
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Good morning everyone. I have a delima and would like everyones opinion. I switched from ATT (iPhone) to Sprint Nexus S 4g last weekend. To be honest i am not happy with the Nexus. I know the beauty of this phone is supposed to be the ability to customize and the fact that the phone has no "bloatware" loaded but i am just not thrilled with the phone.
My question is this, would it be a mistake for me to take this phone back and get the Evo Evo 4g.
Thanks in advance for everyones opinion.
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Just get the 3D and forget about it. Its on a different level than both phones.
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Just get the 3D and forget about it. Its on a different level than both phones.
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Better hardware yeah, but I still think the NS will offer the better software experience in the long term
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Better hardware yeah, but I still think the NS will offer the better software experience in the long term
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Good for you......I think otherwise. And???
I will never own another phone by Samsung again. So I would definitely get the EVO or get a refund and wait for the 3D
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Good for you......I think otherwise. And???
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Any reasons to think so?
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I wouldn't exactly say it's better, it's just aosp which means as soon as google finishes an update, it's pushed the the Nexus series. Personally I prefer aosp over Sense, but to the average person who doesn't root who doesn't know the difference between Gingerbread, Icecream, etc etc then a simple launcher replacement would do. Out of the 2, I would pick the 3d over the S but the 3d is not an option in this case.
3D over Nexus S. Assuming you're on XDA, you already root so getting latest AOSP isn't a concern.
And did you know HTC listens?
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3D over Nexus S. Assuming you're on XDA, you already root so getting latest AOSP isn't a concern.
And did you know HTC listens?
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Getting fully working AOSP is another thing. I was on CM7 and left without hesistation because of all the little bugs. Besides his choices seem to be limited to the EVO 4G and NS4G.
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Any reasons to think so?
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Android 2.3.4 with HW acceleration (specifically for dual cores), and then Ice Cream with all the enhancements to the software. I would think having better hardware along with software that makes the best use of that hardware is gonna be the reason.
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Android 2.3.4 with HW acceleration (specifically for dual cores), and then Ice Cream with all the enhancements to the software. I would think having better hardware along with software that makes the best use of that hardware is gonna be the reason.
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I've been enjoying the limited GPU acceleration under 2.3 for a couple of days now (regular NS users were for months). Judging by the average amount of time that HTC takes to update their phones, I probably would have been using ice cream for several months before the 3D got it. And by then I'd probably would have already or will be close to upgrading to the next Nexus with a 2nd generation dual core or even quad core CPU. That's why the Nexus will almost always have a better software experience.
..and that's without saying that the Nexus is Googles playground where they experiement with new mobile services like Google wallet.
Edit: The more I think about it, the more crazy it seems. It took HALF A YEAR for any phone to be officially upgraded to 2.3 and CM7 still isn't as stable as a stock N1 or NS.
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I've been enjoying the limited GPU acceleration under 2.3 for a couple of days now (regular NS users were for months). Judging by the average amount of time that HTC takes to update their phones, I probably would have been using ice cream for several months before the 3D got it. And by then I'd probably would have already or will be close to upgrading to the next Nexus with a 2nd generation dual core or even quad core CPU. That's why the Nexus will almost always have a better software experience.
..and that's without saying that the Nexus is Googles playground where they experiement with new mobile services like Google wallet.
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Maybe, Maybe not. Far be it from me to say so, but I am not relying on HTC for anything. Just like I am running a fully functional EVO 3d ROM on my evo with no issues whatsoever, when they said that was impossible. And CM7 has not had any bugs for a long time as far as im concerned. Been running it prior to this kingdom rom and it was spot on with every feature working. So having that option along with any update put out by the dev's here on the 3D is fine with me. I know they can make these devices run far beyond what HTC or google can or has intended them too.
EDIT: BTW, the whole 2.3 thing was caused by google. You do know that carriers were set to release 2.3, and then google came back with a revision and they decided to hold off to revise to that version before releasing instead of releasing then having to release another one right afterwards.
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Maybe, Maybe not. Far be it from me to say so, but I am not relying on HTC for anything. Just like I am running a fully functional EVO 3d ROM on my evo with no issues whatsoever, when they said that was impossible. And CM7 has not had any bugs for a long time as far as im concerned. Been running it prior to this kingdom rom and it was spot on with every feature working. So having that option along with any update put out by the dev's here on the 3D is fine with me. I know they can make these devices run far beyond what HTC or google can or has intended them too.
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Last time I checked the 3D ROM port has GPU driver issues that'll never allow it to run as stable as a stock EVO 3D. CM doesn't have bugs? check out the stable or nightly threads.
Bottom line, if any of those ROMs ever shipped on a commercial product, it wouldn't fly and that's if it could go pass carrier/OEM producting testing. That I can guarantee.
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Last time I checked the 3D ROM port has GPU driver issues that'll never allow it to run as stable as a stock EVO 3D. CM doesn't have bugs? check out the stable or nightly threads.
Bottom line, if any of those ROMs ever shipped on a commercial product, it wouldn't fly and that's if it could go pass carrier/OEM prosucting testing. That I can guarantee.
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Why would I need to read threads when the ROM was on my phone for the entire time up until a few days ago. Lets see My personal experiance vs someone else's in a thread. I think I can go on my personal experiance alot more reliably than someone else's...dont you think?
Strangely enough I still see a ton of people use the Evo 4G more so than ever even after this phone has been around for over a year now and really not too many Photons, Evo 3D's, or Epic 4G Touches. What makes our phone one of the most ubitiquous?
It would be if it sold on more carriers i bet. It was a revolution when it came out so it sold alot and continued doing well afte a price drop. Sadly im guess it will fade out when peoples upgrades come around since the evo isnt even 2 years old yet.
When the evo came it was was THE powerhouse. Now, most of the phones that come out are just dual core 1.2GHz something. Take away the second core, and you have an Evo. The Evo can still most things as the newer phones, just 'technically' slower. So like some games/apps may not work because they were optimized for dual core performance. I mean you can tether, wifi, 3g/4g...everything else the newer phone are doing, with the NFC only on the nexus. That's why most people are holding out on the evo.
It's because of XDA that the EVO is still holding strong
I believe Evo has the strongest dev community of any phone, and certainly the most longevity. It deserves it - it's the 1st superphone.
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I believe Evo has the strongest dev community of any phone, and certainly the most longevity. It deserves it - it's the 1st superphone.
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That's a fact...go look at any other of the XDA forums for other phones...none have as much going on there as far as active members, devs and posts and threads still being made. We have at least 10 threads with over 1 million plus views and some with over 2 million, most others only have a couple with a few hundred thousand views. The Evo has one hell of a community, something I will for sure miss whenever I jump to another phone next year when my contract runs out.
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It's because of XDA that the EVO is still holding strong
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I believe Evo has the strongest dev community of any phone, and certainly the most longevity. It deserves it - it's the 1st superphone.
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Search Google for XDA and the evo forum is still on of the top returns BIG THANKS TO THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!! Developers and users and even the lurkers. Thank you and keep doing what you do! except the lurkers! you would be suprised that you might be able to help someone just be respectful and share you own experience with roms and apps etc
I still enjoy my evo and with the releases of ics I will be content for a while longer. Though there are stronger phones now, the evo 4g hold it own. The devs are amazing here.
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Wish I could get a 1.5 ghz dual...no no quadcore evo
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I'm holding out for a while as well, still find plenty of use with my EVO.
Even when I upgrade, I don't know if I could sell it.
It holds a certain sentimental value now as my first smartphone and Android device
We'll all eventually move on but you NEVER forget your first....
Even with other "better" phones out I still think the evo is the best. And btw anyone else feel like if they kept the design the same and just suped up the specs of this phone (no gay ass 3d) and put in quad core 1gb of ram (the works) maybe slim it a little it would be the absolute best phone ever?
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Even with other "better" phones out I still think the evo is the best. And btw anyone else feel like if they kept the design the same and just suped up the specs of this phone (no gay ass 3d) and put in quad core 1gb of ram (the works) maybe slim it a little it would be the absolute best phone ever?
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And ditch Sense I guess that won't matter I would just root it and flash Decks and then Yes
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And ditch Sense I guess that won't matter I would just root it and flash Decks and then Yes
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And ditch Sense I guess that won't matter I would just root it and flash Decks and then Yes
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Attaboy. AOSP > Sense all day everyday
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To me, I have compared my Rooted Evo to newer current phones and mines do the same thing. Still 8megpx camera, now with the newer twicks,panorama ect.
My 4G gives me steady 7 to 9mbps. I am running mix sense, and Gingerbread.
So. the way it is my phone is still good until August 2012 when my upgrade
Now also, with this app called " Jeannie" is just as good as the SIRI that the Iphone has. Now. we all know Iphone is not a match with a rooted EVO but that SIRI is cool. Jeannie is same if not better.
I have all apps that I need and still have over 160mp of free space of internal memory and over 4GB on the sd card. SO? what else I need?
IM sure, August 2012, the newer EVO then will be a Quad Core beast with camera of 10megapix and way much more...until then My EVO Rocks!!
I wanna know your guys opinions on it cause I've herd its really bad from some ppl others say its great so I wanna know from the ppl that have my EVO and what's different, the only reason I'm asking this is because I herd that now if you break your phone the insurance company gives you an EVO 3d because the og EVO is done :/ sad story and yet I still have another year >.< probably going to get e4gl tho it looks so sick and it'll be cheaper by the time my upgrade comes around
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Thanks for making the post! Im in the same position and was wondering the same things.
Me as well. Part of me wishes I can get a 3d if something happens to my Evo. Then again, it appears that we may be further along in ROM development and I would be taking a step back.
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I have both. I have a rooted Evo4g and a 3D Evo. The 3d is fine. I don't use the 3d function much, but as a phone/PDA...I like it.
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I've had the evo, 3vo, mopho, and et4g the 3vo is the only one that was returned in less than a week. The 3d function gave me migraines and it wasn't that big of an improvement over the OG some of its spec'd ram is entirely useless as it is allocated for the 3d functions so you only get 3/4 of the listed ram for phone use which is only 256mb more than the OG, sense is still laggy on it and stock is more bloated than any of the versions for the OG. It was also the only phone I've had on sprint that would lose signal in my house constantly. If it was a replacement to the evo thru device protection it would be a comparable exchange. Definitely not worth buying or upgrading too as there are numerous other devices that would be better choices.
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I played with it when it came out, and honestly didn't feel it was impressive enough to upgrade for/to. I did think it felt pretty smooth and snappy, but as stated, OG Evo is further in development , and to me the 3d aspect was bollocks, just a total gimmick.
Just my .02¢
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I know a few people that went from the Evo 4G to the 3D and have enjoyed it. I didn't see it as a device I just had to upgrade to, but I don't think it was as bad as some made it out to be. I'm glad I didn't upgrade, though.
Been an original evo user and upgraded to the 3d I was so happy yo have a new phone a gem months later I realize that it wasn't much difference and actually miss my evo 4G I got me an iphone 4S and It last 5 months till I got bored now I have a galaxy nexus I'm pretty sure this phone can compare to the htc evo LTE so I would say wait for that one instead take care of your phone that way you don't get the 3D. Is not a bad phone but ain't great it felt like evo 1.5 to me and the new evo feels more like a Evo 2 that's what I think ( btw I used my evo 4G for a month)
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I played with it when it came out, and honestly didn't feel it was impressive enough to upgrade for/to. I did think it felt pretty smooth and snappy, but as stated, OG Evo is further in development , and to me the 3d aspect was bollocks, just a total gimmick.
Just my .02¢
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Well that's cuz technically its not 3d is parallax barrier holograph it gave me and my dad the worst migraines ever, may be because we both have an astigmatism but neither of us wanted to keep it. We returned it for the MoPho that lasted til the et4g came out then we added a line so he could upgrade to it. Then he switched back to the MoPho in early Jan and gave me the et4g. I didn't activate it for 2-3weeks cuz I didn't wanna give up my OG evo. He ended up porting his # to Att and got the gNote then I swapped my evo for the et4g and swapped the intercept on my 2nd line for the evo, and now I have both and didn't have to give up my evo and actually use my 2nd line now. Currently I have the Evo, ET4G and MoPho active on sprint and he's gone totally over to ATT and the gNote. We just use the MoPho as a house phone since we don't have a landline it just kinda hangs around for whoever to use.
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So pretty much if my phone breaks its what ever, its an ok phone
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So pretty much if my phone breaks its what ever, its an ok phone
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Could be worse.
Someone on here recently said they got a 3D, and a couple days later someone else said they received the 4G. Seems like it's up in the air, unless it was officially stated they were replacing all with the 3D. Been hearing stories like this for a while, so guess it depends.
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Could be worse.
Someone on here recently said they got a 3D, and a couple days later someone else said they received the 4G. Seems like it's up in the air, unless it was officially stated they were replacing all with the 3D. Been hearing stories like this for a while, so guess it depends.
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Hmm well ethier way idc, 3d sounds eh and I love my og <3
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I have both and they are both really good phones. But meanrom on the 3d turns that phone into a beast with pretty good picture quality because of the HTC amaze port and great battery life. They clocked it to factory specs up to 1.51ghz without any additional battery drain.
Somethings to think about....
My EVO Oc'd running mikg I am getting 1100 quads. On my EVO running stock mean I pull 3600+ quads everytime. That's a power house!
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Look, I'm a man of patience (waited for my first laptop for 8 years after first asking for one, 4 years for just a regular cell phone), and this is my .02
The Evo 3D is a good phone. Yes, 3D is a gimmick, but most people don't buy it because of that feature. They buy it because its a good phone at a good price on a good network. It also has a great network of developers here on XDA. Now, I do think that there are better performing phones out there, such as the E4GT, but if you just want a new phone, go ahead and break your Evo 4G (btw its fraud) and get yourself a new phone.
Personally, I'm just going to wait (imagine that). I've been on Sprint for just over a year now, and I am still happily using my Evo 4G. However, I plan on living in Philly for the next 5 years, and since Philadelphia is a first round LTE market, I would like to have a new LTE phone. I love HTC, and I love the HTC Evo 4G LTE, but I'm going to wait for the GS3 just to see how they stack up against each other. I would suggest that you do the same.
i personally think the 3d kind of bad. i mean, you pay extra just for 3d! might as well stick with the 4g!
The Evo 3d is a good phone at best... As long as your not using the 3d often as it can cause headaches
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How's battery compared to the og and will my extended work in 3d
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How's battery compared to the og and will my extended work in 3d
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My brother has the 3d and it is so much quicker than my 4g. Just my opinion of course. He says the battery life is really good. Better than the 4g. Your extended will not work with it though. I believe there is an extended for the 3d though.
The 3d part is gimmicky but I think spec wise its a better phone than people think. I know I wouldn't kick it out of bed.
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I don't have both but had the option (and researched it a bit) when I got my 4G.
More or less, if you disable the 3d, which many seem to prefer to do, the biggest differences seem to be that the 4G has a better (traditional) camera and arguably better looks. Otherwise they are either similar or the 3D wins (sometimes by a nose, other times by a mile).
It's an upgrade in most aspects, but for most, monetarily, it's an upgrade not worth the money. Given a choice of the two and money was no object the 3D is probably the better choice for all except flashaholics. I went 4G simply because at twice the price, I didn't feel the 3d was twice the phone.
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some of its spec'd ram is entirely useless as it is allocated for the 3d functions so you only get 3/4 of the listed ram for phone use which is only 256mb more than the OG,
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This is simply untrue.
Android blocks off a portion of the memory for basic and necessary functions. The EVO 3D only has about 808 of its 1GB available for all of our programs. You're saying that you only get 3/4, which is essentially true, but that's not 256 more than the EVO, it's about 400 more, since the EVO 4G only has about 350 or so available for the same reason. It doesn't get 512MB.
Now, having owned the 3D for almost a year and having used the 4G for a week as a backup while my 3D was getting repaired, I have a few opinions on them.
Speed: The EVO 3D beats the 4G in plenty of ways here. Between the CPU and extra RAM, it really shows. Apps have to restart a lot more because of memory on the 4G
Screen: The extra resolution is nice on the 3D, but it's not that big of a deal once you use the 4G for a couple days.
Camera: the 3D's camera sucks. Not sure what they did to ruin it, but it's slow, blurry if anything moves even slightly, and is slow. Oh and it's slow.
Feel: I kinda like the more narrow 3D, but it's not that big of a deal. The 4G is a little heavier too, but not that much
Battery: The 3D has a higher capacity battery (1730) and it seemed to hold up better than the 4G, but it's hard to tell since I don't use my phone the same every day.
Roms: Roms on the 3D are 2 flavors: Scripted, tweaked, and themed HTC Sense roms. There's 380 of them and who knows what the difference is besides color and tweaks that break a lot of things and kill the battery. The second is a broken AOSP rom of some kind. The 4G, having most of the same innards as the legendary Nexus One, is in much better shape for this. The ICS roms for the 4G are in much better shape.
Basically I was pretty impressed with the 4G. I kinda wish I bought it used last year and then got a discount on the 4G LTE, but oh well. I wouldn't buy a 3D today, if I needed a new phone I'd buy the 4G used. But if you have a 4G and end up getting a 3D as a replacement, you'll be fine and the resolution, speed, and memory upgrades are nice. Unless you just played with ROMs all day.