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http://www.mynextfone.co.uk/news/article/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-tops-iphone-4-sales-in-uk-
With so many GS2 users, I hope Samsung will take the GS2 seriously and fix current problems (battery, etc.). Also, It seems HTC lost much of its sales power (it seems that the Sensation simply can't compete).
To be honest it's not really a fair contest, as the iPhone 4 is last year's news. If iPhone 5 would have been released today, I think we know who would have won...
the linked page - not saying the facts are correct or incorrect, but come on, no source and no actual numbers? this is extremely amateurish.
and to your point that iP4 is too old to be compared to SGS2 I also want to add that UK sales of SGS2 are really actually INTERNATIONAL sales because many people from outside the UK bought their SGS2s through UK channels. Thousands a month I would estimate went off shore.
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the linked page - not saying the facts are correct or incorrect, but come on, no source and no actual numbers? this is extremely amateurish.
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That's exactly what I thought when I read it. The site doesn't look very reputable does it.
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To be honest it's not really a fair contest, as the iPhone 4 is last year's news. If iPhone 5 would have been released today, I think we know who would have won...
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iPhone 5 would have won, we all know that. But I think, they wouldn't have won by "as much" as last year. Just look how many (of course I'm talking about the UK here) solid iPhone users have moved over to Android, or more specifically the GSII.
And I love how Apple release their iPhone - or at least used to - release their iPhone when it was the only thing in the market. Give speculation, tempt users to wait, they then see the flashing iPhone and then say, "oh that device I wanted a couple of months back is old now" So let's just get the iPhone 5.
This year (depending on when Android 4 or Ice Cream is released) it'll actually be vaguely fair. Of course Apple will win because Apple have a product cycle of 1 year. Each iPhone lasts about a year before their software begins to cut off features (to make up upgrade to the new one) and their marketing makes the older model should rubbish. Android phones (the top band) are meant to last longer, so there's no influx of sales. The sales are spread across various manufacturers' flagship models and over the course of the year and over the course of Android updates.
And so if these phones are released within a week of each other (which they won't be because Steve Jobs won't do that....he'll probably delay it) the sales, IMO won't be as huge as they were for the iPhone 4. They still win, but by not as much.
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and to your point that iP4 is too old to be compared to SGS2 I also want to add that UK sales of SGS2 are really actually INTERNATIONAL sales because many people from outside the UK bought their SGS2s through UK channels. Thousands a month I would estimate went off shore.
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Look at this:
http://www.samsunghub.com/2011/06/10/over-a-million-galaxy-s-ii-activated-in-south-korea/
1 million SGS2 devices sold in South Korea alone in the 4 weeks of May (!!!)... (just to compare, it took the original iPhone 74 days to reach 1 million users, globally !)
It's hard to comprehend that by now, there could be several million owners of SGS2 globaly. This is insane !!!
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Here is a comparison regarding the SGS2 vs iPhone 4 sales:
- iPhone 4 sold 3 million devices in its first month (Globally).
- SGS2 had 3 million pre-orders globally (that is, before it started to sell).
I think that the SGS2 might be the fastest selling smartphone, ever.
The more SGS2 Samsung sells the better the support will be, so keep on buying
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iPhone 5 would have won, we all know that. But I think, they wouldn't have won by "as much" as last year. Just look how many (of course I'm talking about the UK here) solid iPhone users have moved over to Android, or more specifically the GSII.
And I love how Apple release their iPhone - or at least used to - release their iPhone when it was the only thing in the market. Give speculation, tempt users to wait, they then see the flashing iPhone and then say, "oh that device I wanted a couple of months back is old now" So let's just get the iPhone 5.
This year (depending on when Android 4 or Ice Cream is released) it'll actually be vaguely fair. Of course Apple will win because Apple have a product cycle of 1 year. Each iPhone lasts about a year before their software begins to cut off features (to make up upgrade to the new one) and their marketing makes the older model should rubbish. Android phones (the top band) are meant to last longer, so there's no influx of sales. The sales are spread across various manufacturers' flagship models and over the course of the year and over the course of Android updates.
And so if these phones are released within a week of each other (which they won't be because Steve Jobs won't do that....he'll probably delay it) the sales, IMO won't be as huge as they were for the iPhone 4. They still win, but by not as much.
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Nice post but we already have figures which show the SGS2 sold faster?
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The more SGS2 Samsung sells the better the support will be, so keep on buying
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Well, the original Galaxy S sold about 10 million units globally (true to January 2011). I'm not sure the support was as great as owners hoped...
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Edit:
Here is a comparison regarding the SGS2 vs iPhone 4 sales:
- iPhone 4 sold 3 million devices in its first month (Globally).
- SGS2 had 3 million pre-orders globally (that is, before it started to sell).
I think that the SGS2 might be the fastest selling smartphone, ever.
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I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.
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I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.
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ditto.....
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Well, the original Galaxy S sold about 10 million units globally (true to January 2011). I'm not sure the support was as great as owners hoped...
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At lest better than HTC, I cant even remember my Desire getting Gingerbread and even tough all the new sense versions were running just great on it HTC never oficially ported them, they just didnt care at all and pushed phone after phone after phone while samsung ported gingerbread and at least seems to help the community (donated cyanogen devs etc.). Compared to the rest of Manufacturers Samsung actually had a great support even for the sgs1 and I doubt sgs2 is getting a worse one.
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I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.
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Even if you are right (and those 3 million pre-orders are not already at the hand of customers), we already know that it sold 1 million alone in South Korea (in 1 month), and it hasn't even started to sell in the USA, which is the biggest market !!, there is no chance that with the US market included it will fall behind the iPhone 4 sales.
I'm not going to explain in a 10 part post, but daivik is really smart and bullseye on topic. Everything he/she said is on the money
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Hmmm, let me think about this.... If someone comes out with a jackhammer that men can use to sodimize themselves with and it outsells the sgs2 would I care? No. I really dont care how good a piece of hardware it is or who likes it, just aint my thing. So it is with the iphone, if others enjoy it and like how their hardware functions and what it does for them, great. Let them sell a gazillion to those people and let them pour the coals to it. Its got nothing to do with me.
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Nice post but we already have figures which show the SGS2 sold faster?
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I was just skimming the thread, before my post. And I got the impression that a few were saying that the GSII sales weren't as high. And so I just wanted to give my opinion why and shed some light on the fact that you've always got Apple loyalists, and basically how that is under real threat. And that threat will only grow for Apple in the future.
Where is the cheapest place to buy an SG2 in UK without contract ? Amazon ?
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Where is the cheapest place to buy an SG2 in UK without contract ? Amazon ?
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Check expanys. They dropped their prices recently.
Seems to be beyond my expectations.
How can the sale be so much without being released everywhere yet? (hint:US)
http://www.digitalversus.com/samsung-galaxy-ii-over-six-million-handsets-sold-news-20244.html
http://www.mobmit.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-iphones-imposing-rival-hits-6-million-sales/
What do you guys say? Cooked-up numbers or just inevitable success?
Because it is just the best phone ever.
WOW EPIC!!
Android App: A Free Performance Test For Your Handset
digtalversus.com do a performance test, you can get it on market, look up "vellamo" and download and try, my score was 938 on my sg2, just behind the samsung 10.1 tab
I'm doing my part... Just bought myself one of these bad boys ;-)
This kinda sucks lol
who wanna have a phone, wich almost everyone else has? c'mon i wanna be something 'special'... it's kinda like the iph*** almost EVERYONE has it, that sucks, lol i think i'm gonna sell my GS2 now lol
I've seen SGS2 prices drop by almost 20% starting from May and original SGS seems to sell good aswell.
jebus
That's ridiculous considering the fact that US hasn't seen their share of SGSII
Now we know why apple is trying to speed up the litigation process to get it banned
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This kinda sucks lol
who wanna have a phone, wich almost everyone else has?
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I know you are not being entirely serious but lots of people also means lots of support and development, so yeah, I do like it and actually haven't seen a lot of people walking around with it yet. Did get some comments about my phone being more bad ass than a laptop
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Now we know why apple is trying to speed up the litigation process to get it banned
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I would not be surprised if Apple abandons the charges against Samsung after the new iPhone model is introduced in the US. The "game" is to stall SGS2 sales and keep the numbers down
nice that a phone finally is available in europe before the us ... considering how much of the innovation came from here
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That's ridiculous considering the fact that US hasn't seen their share of SGSII
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So you think that 5% of the world population will do a huge difference for the sales of SGS2? Sure US is richer that he average country, so it might count for even 10 or 15% of the sales in the end but probably not more than that.
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Seems to be beyond my expectations.
How can the sale be so much without being released everywhere yet? (hint:US)
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US aint the biggest consumer of mobile phone, they are even outranked by Asia and Europe, I read an article about mobile phone sales and IIRC, US was just ranked at 5th or 6th.
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US aint the biggest consumer of mobile phone, they are even outranked by Asia and Europe, I read an article about mobile phone sales and IIRC, US was just ranked at 5th or 6th.
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Quite possible. I saw somewhere (no source to quote) China Telecom itself has arond 600million suscribers. That's more than the population of any country bar India/China.
If you conquer Europe and Asia, I believe the company would be more than satisfied with their result.
Looks like they're well on their way to hit 10 million units sold by years end. Best selling Android phone two years in a row. Way to go Samsung!
Approximately 2 million of the 12+ million SGS 1's sold were from North America, it didn't sell that well in the United States. I predict 3-4 million SGS 2's will sell in the United States before the end of the year, if the carriers don't **** it up.
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Looks like they're well on their way to hit 10 million units sold by years end. Best selling Android phone two years in a row. Way to go Samsung!
Approximately 2 million of the 12+ million SGS 1's sold were from North America, it didn't sell that well in the United States. I predict 3-4 million SGS 2's will sell in the United States before the end of the year, if the carriers don't **** it up.
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I have no authority in this subject, but I am sure that they will fcuk up the device royally. Already seen that Sprint has a different design. All rumurs point to AT&T having a different physical design/layout. Why do you have all these different versions? Surely something will miss the intended target and you will notice GPS not working or Wifi reception poor or some other piss poor performance. Just let it be like internation versions, and everything (well most things) will be in order.
Impressive.
I think Apple are in a bit of trouble, they will have to compete with the SGS2 with the iPhone 5 which with the A5 they can easily do but within 6 months or probably allot sooner they will also be up against SGS3 and Tegra 3 devices.
I just hope Samsung launch products in the US earlier next time and give Apple a real headache.
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Seems to be beyond my expectations.
How can the sale be so much without being released everywhere yet? (hint:US)
http://www.digitalversus.com/samsung-galaxy-ii-over-six-million-handsets-sold-news-20244.html
http://www.mobmit.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-iphones-imposing-rival-hits-6-million-sales/
What do you guys say? Cooked-up numbers or just inevitable success?
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its been release in europe since june
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its been release in europe since june
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end of april in UK and Korea, in May in many countries in europe
Elar said:
I would not be surprised if Apple abandons the charges against Samsung after the new iPhone model is introduced in the US. The "game" is to stall SGS2 sales and keep the numbers down
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Exactly. And they will NOT succeed.. End of.
i was just reading articles (on korean news web site) and it was saying that
samsung will not introduce galaxy s3 in MWC but they might display Galaxy note S instead.
The article also stated that the Galaxy Note S will have ICS, better camera and quadcore CPU..
Now, I don't know if this source is regit and trustful.. but i am definitely interested in, and probably even consider, changing my note to the quadcore ICS Samsung galaxy note for sure
imo i dont think samsung will introduce another note before s3 also i dont think samsung is willing to put an alternative to its own product while it is sales are good.
That would be suicide in my personal opinion. They JUST released this device 3 months ago, and they're going to announce the next one? Do you know how many people would be pissed off, myself included. Especially after paying top dollar (in my case Euro) for a device that they would supposedly be phasing out for its new big brother Note S?
I count this as pure speculation, and it won't happen. I stand corrected if it does, and I would have also lost complete faith in Samsung if they do! That's just bad marketing!!!
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That would be suicide in my personal opinion. They JUST released this device 3 months ago, and they're going to announce the next one? Do you know how many people would be pissed off, myself included. Especially after paying top dollar (in my case Euro) for a device that they would supposedly be phasing out for its new big brother Note S?
I count this as pure speculation, and it won't happen. I stand corrected if it does, and I would have also lost complete faith in Samsung if they do! That's just bad marketing!!!
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+1, you are 100% correct. The Galaxy Note only just came out, only had mine a few months so it's very unlikely they will release another one.
In fact the Note hasn't even been released in the US yet! How can they bring out a newer version when the original is still to be released in America?
I'd say 2013 at the earliest for a Note replacement, not anytime soon...
It's most likely a fake rumour or the Galaxy S III...
Rumors make the world go round.
I don´t think that after the huge success of the S2 and the Note, are the Samsung Mobile managers in any hurry of releasing a next device. From the Note there are already over 1,5 Million devices sold and the phone is not even out in the US.
At the moment the market will stay stable for a while there is really no real competitor to Samsung. HTC is no where near at the moment with their products and LG just failed in my opinion giving the customers the support they deserve.
The strategy is pretty simple. The web will be filled with rumors and speculations for the S3 / possible Note2 just to build up momentum and discussions about it.
Samsung has placed its self as an Apple alternative nr1 at the moment. They will only release an S3 or a Note2 when Apple decides to release the Idumb5.
So expect both devices (Idumb5 and S3) at about the same time (estimate mid summer).
Customer support is the key to success. Give the customer the feeling he is valuable to the company and you will try to keep him satisfied. Especially if he has payed some 600€ for a fricking phone.
i totally agree with you, the new note s won't be in market anytime soon, but i was thinking that samsung might introduce note s in MWC and produce it in the 4th quarter? then again, i have no idea if the writer has regit sources.. but hey, quadcore note.. im totally buying it lol
From what I heard, the Samsung Galaxy Note S was the smaller version of the current Note. Although that's very doubtful because that sort of is the Galaxy S II.
Releasing this phone any time soon would simply mean less money for Samsung, as the Note is still being sold alot, and needs to be sold more in the US too.
I sure hope the Samsung Note S is just a rumour if it, indeed, is the bigger, quad core version of our Note. That'd devastate all the current Note users..
quit whining
Guys,
I am really surprised at the attitude here, why would anyone not want them to release a newer updated version of the Note, a product that is already good but like anything can be made even better.
Technology marches on, the note was announced early summer 2011 yes some of you have only just got them but there will still be people buying galaxy s2 even after the s3 is released or announced.
do you really want to stop progress, it would be like saying our parents saying i dont want anyone to invent CD's because I have just bought a nice tape deck.....
Grow up, quit whining and stop trying to fight the future.
I'll flog my note to some technological dullard and buy a quad core, super amoled plus hd ( non pentile ) rear plate cmos camera equipped G Note S the moment it comes out.
Now a real question is does anyone know if the S-pen will retain pressure sensitivity using the ICS native api or only running wacom drivers......
MG
I am not against the future or development of technology.
I just hope that Note S don't come out TOO SOON. Got it? NOT TOO SOON!
'Cause I don't want my beloved Note is soon defaced by a stupid-same-size-and-design thing!!!
I wrote about this few weeks back,GNote with its 5.3" screen has created a completely new class,and looks like its becoming a hit fast,so Samsung just cant sit back and watch some another company come up with same form factor but with better specs,they have to keep themselves in the lead by beeing few steps ahead of the compitition.
Hence my prediction that we will have a new GNote sometime in the 4th quarter,and ,of course, i will be there to get one ,which also means cutting back my beer consumption,since this thing doesnt come cheap!!.
MAX check your sources.
GSM Arena database:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php
The Note was first announced in September 2011 and released in October 2011 (black version). Most phones were delivered in November / December first time and the white devices were first in December there.
We are at the start of February the phone is at the hands of most owners for a maximum of two or three months.
I am one of the owners who frequently changes phone, mostly because its a hobby but I really like the note and I would like to stick to it longer than 3 months before I loose a huge amount of money just because a newer version is out.
I can see a successor to the note only in at aprox year from now as a bigger S3.
These could be a Galaxy Note S or Plus or whatever but I don't think it will be a replacement for Galaxy S2 but just another addition in Samsung product portfolio.
As I wouldn't be happy to get 5 something inch screen because it's too big for me if we speak about phone
http://samsunggalaxys3review.net/long-rumored-white-samsung-galaxy-nexus-officially-announced/
there was an official announcement sometime back on sammobiles, or I should say maybe that was an unofficial news, but the Note S will be unveiled later this year in q4, They just started selling in usa and canada from feb, and invested millions in the super bowl ad, its impossible for note release.
plus its just announced that samsung isnt showing anything at mwc. cheers !
links:
http://phandroid.com/2012/02/08/sam...ce/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/01/31/galaxy-siii-march-13th-and-galaxy-s-ii-plus-and-note-s-q4/
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Then what the beep are you doing in the Note forum? Go back to your iPhone fan forums
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Hah! Funny people. Do your really think that Samsung is that stupid? They've invested A LOT of money into the Note, and it sells pretty well, and you think that Samsung will unveil a new model when the US version just got released, and they advertised at the freaking Super Bowl!?
"Yes, let's advertise this product and release a completely new model in a month and burn some serious money".
If they did that people would stop buying the Note and wait for the "Note S", and Samsung would have massive losses. Do you think it's cheap to build and design a phone? No. It costs millions upon millions of dollars.
The natural thing would be to unveil the next gen Note in september again; 12 month after the previous unveiling, like they're doing with the Galaxy S products.
And i'll end this post with a quote:
"When pushed, Ryan Bidan, director of product marketing at Samsung, said that while he wasn’t sure what the model count for his company would be in 2012, he agreed that phone makers should drive down the number of phones. “Sheer SKU proliferation is a problem,” he said."
Maybe it could be the rumored Samsung Galaxy Journal rumored to be coming on Verizon and Sprint (USA). Same 5.3" display and all that but CDMA w/LTE support.
Yup, that might be the case.
why fight the future
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MAX check your sources.
GSM Arena database:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note-4135.php
The Note was first announced in September 2011 and released in October 2011 (black version). Most phones were delivered in November / December first time and the white devices were first in December there.
I can see a successor to the note only in at aprox year from now as a bigger S3.
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Firemaker please keep up.
There was plenty of articles and discussions about samsung note back in august last year and the note or smart-tab-phone ( translation) was allready shown at a number of trade shows in korea througout the summer ( Anyone could read about it ahead of the official release even in mass market blogs like engaget )
Its now february half a year later and I dont understand the alarm and negative comments this is causing.
1) most buyers of these devices dont even read these geek only sites and just buy what they see in the stores... they dont care what *might* be available on worldwide import or other geos
2) very few of the notes users pay 600 anythings £$€ as they just buy phones on contract so its no real loss for them if there is an update
3) Surely any reasonable individual would be pleased if sammy annouce an updated note taking advantage of refreshed technology, we are not talking revolution here, purely an evolution to the current state of the market for a premium device. ( how could any non luddite aurgue this isnt a good thing ?)
4) people are whining they are loosing money ....WTF you bought something its great, so chill out be pleased, something better will come out soon, who cares you havnt lost anything ...if you buy a dell pc and intel release a faster processor six months later will you get upset if dell include it in that model......
we should celibrate these refreshes and be pleased for constant innovation otherwise we would all be still walking around with wap speed data on our tft ipaqs and sony clies instead of hspa oled hd notes.....
maybe they announce TW5 and ICS
May be they will announce a Galaxy Note S with SuperAMOLED Plus?
All the 'S' phones have SuperAMOLED Plus display. YoU never know,
. i was at ces yeterday at the samsung booth. there was a guy givig the samsung rep a lot of grief for the shoddy updaate rolllout for the us, the samsung rep said we'd have the update "very soon". since it was running on the note 10.1 with lte for verizon one would hope so. it really seems like they delayed the us upate so verizon could have something unique. the guy also asked about the keyboard dock andt he samsung rep said he didn't know but suspected now that verizon was gettting the lte unit samsug would bring the dock to the us. apparenly a marketing decision
as for jellybean on the note it looked great.it is really multi-windows and not split screen. windows are resizeable. switcching lag is gone,
Let's hope it's by months end.
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The US is not the only country with no update.. The majority of Europe does not either.. Some of us didn't even get the minor update that fixes the stupid Exfat issue..
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Smokie Smokerson said:
The US is not the only country with no update.. The majority of Europe does not either.. Some of us didn't even get the minor update that fixes the stupid Exfat issue..
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Here's a link to Engadget's Myriam Joire's interview on stage of Samsung's Ryan Bidan yesterday. Joire owns a WIFi Note 10.1 and asked when those of us in North America will get the JB update. Bidan said soon, too. He also said the Verizon LTE tablet will ship with JB 4.2.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/samsung-interview/
I've said since the beginning when these topics started coming out that it was because Samsung had a "newer" version coming out, possibly at CES, that would come with JB preinstalled and it would use that to it's advantage. Look what happened. I guarantee Verizon paid quite a bit to make sure that update would not come out for existing tablets for quite a while after their version was out. No one seems to understand that all these companies care about is making the most possible money in the shortest amount of time. A lot of people have the illusion that they care about consumer interests and wanna put the best possible product in their hands. These are corporations. They wanna put the most "money making" product in consumers hands and that's something they can mass produce quickly, sell quickly, and make quick money on it.
Apple has been using something like this to their advantage for years. They release an iPhone or iPad and deliberately leave out "key" features to be added to future devices. If they didn't, they wouldn't make as much money.
Bottom line is, it's a shame that people think corporations have the consumers best interests in mind..
I have to agree with you, transcode of the biggest reasons why I'm not happy with these delays..
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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Dude, im in EU and exactly in the same boat as you are.. Didnt even get the Exfat fix update.. Only thing is I'm still on the stock 4.0.4 so Meh :banghead:
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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The business practice Is worldwide . Although the prevalence of LTE varies by market, if one of your country's carriers is deploying LTE and wants marketing advantages by lining up exclusive deals on LTE devices, don't be surprised to see update delays. Start checking tech and cellular tech publications in your respective countries to see if there are rumors of pending releases of carrier branded LTE GN 10.1 devices. If there are, you may see updates for your WIFI devices delayed.
Haha I see some tin foil hats going around. If it was just samsung be one thing but way to many other tablets out there dont have updates to 4.1. But hey what they want to do is up to them. But think .. putting 4.2 ..thats it? That and Verizon name on the back is the best they could come up with? Anyone with a TAB has phone.. anyway.. keep your hat on and who knows..
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Haha I see some tin foil hats going around. If it was just samsung be one thing but way to many other tablets out there dont have updates to 4.1. But hey what they want to do is up to them. But think .. putting 4.2 ..thats it? That and Verizon name on the back is the best they could come up with? Anyone with a TAB has phone.. anyway.. keep your hat on and who knows..
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LOL, I don't think the corporate types like the look of foil with their expensive suits. This is about the reality of corporate relationships and marketing. LTE may be more widely deployed in North America right now but it will be rolled out elsewhere. As it reaches 3G markets, users will find LTE services and devices categorized and priced as premium, top-of-the line . Like it or not, Samsung will repeat the roll out of the LTE GN 10.1 for Verizon with other carriers around the world as those carriers deploy their LTE networks to try to keep up with the 24/7 demand for fast and voluminous amounts of data and entertainment services like streaming. Carriers pay for tweaking and branding and Samsung and all other companies will happily reserve updates and features for a carrier launch even if it makes individual consumers unhappy.
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The business practice Is worldwide . Although the prevalence of LTE varies by market, if one of your country's carriers is deploying LTE and wants marketing advantages by lining up exclusive deals on LTE devices, don't be surprised to see update delays. Start checking tech and cellular tech publications in your respective countries to see if there are rumors of pending releases of carrier branded LTE GN 10.1 devices. If there are, you may see updates for your WIFI devices delayed.
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Yes and no. Granted, Verizon is a larger customer than we are as individual consumers. However, I do not want a Note with telephony. I have a phone. And if the poll here is to be believed wi-fi only constitutes the majority of Note buyers. Thus, Samsung ignores us at their peril, and by us I mean we individual users with wi-fi only and the retailers selling us these units.
Hey guys i bought one for my wife cause she has always wanted one, but how do i know if i supports lte. I bought it in december 2012
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Hey guys i bought one for my wife cause she has always wanted one, but how do i know if i supports lte. I bought it in december 2012
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If u bought it in december, it is the wifi only model....the lte model comes out sometime this month only on verizon.
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I've said since the beginning when these topics started coming out that it was because Samsung had a "newer" version coming out, possibly at CES, that would come with JB preinstalled and it would use that to it's advantage. Look what happened. I guarantee Verizon paid quite a bit to make sure that update would not come out for existing tablets for quite a while after their version was out. No one seems to understand that all these companies care about is making the most possible money in the shortest amount of time. A lot of people have the illusion that they care about consumer interests and wanna put the best possible product in their hands. These are corporations. They wanna put the most "money making" product in consumers hands and that's something they can mass produce quickly, sell quickly, and make quick money on it.
Apple has been using something like this to their advantage for years. They release an iPhone or iPad and deliberately leave out "key" features to be added to future devices. If they didn't, they wouldn't make as much money.
Bottom line is, it's a shame that people think corporations have the consumers best interests in mind..
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Yeah but at least apple launches the same update to every device to every country on the same day. Instead of taking some darts and randomly throwing it at a world map which is what it looks like they are doing.
Soju+koreans+darts = irregular JB update schedule.
Hey, just wanted to let everyone know I am currently working on trying to build CM12 for the P900, if anyone has any experience I would love all the help! As soon as I get something built together and slightly functioning, I will post!
Sweet!
DexterFichuk said:
Hey, just wanted to let everyone know I am currently working on trying to build CM12 for the P900, if anyone has any experience I would love all the help! As soon as I get something built together and slightly functioning, I will post!
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That sounds great,
Good Luck
wow
good luck bro
Good luck!
Excellent news! Any chance the P905 will follow after?
so happy to see the word "Lollipop" mentioned regarding the Note Pro!
I am very excited about the Lollipop era and i am searching the forum daily for news regarding it.
I am a OnePlus One owner who is amazed about all the brilliant developers that are engaged in building more and more ROMs for the device and I am very thrilled that there is already a CM12 (pre-alpha) build for the OPO.
I wish you good luck @DexterFichuk and TIA.
It's known to me that I can't compare the development team in such different device and market and that's even more of a reason why i wanted to thank a single thread from one developer.
Every single new development for our big tablet will be a blessing
Thank's again @DexterFichuk and I hope you will get all the help you need from our small community :highfive:
DexterFichuk said:
Hey, just wanted to let everyone know I am currently working on trying to build CM12 for the P900, if anyone has any experience I would love all the help! As soon as I get something built together and slightly functioning, I will post!
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This is great news indeed. Keep us posted and me know if I can help in any way! CM12 on this Tab will rock!
I'm very surprised there is no official port for galaxy note pro 12.2 from Cyanogen. it's still a Samsung high-end tablet..
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I'm very surprised there is no official port for galaxy note pro 12.2 from Cyanogen. it's still a Samsung high-end tablet..
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Me too. Guess the people that buy this use stock touchwiz and are happy. Or cm11 (which is cool and fast).... but I hope for some love for cm12 someday soon ....
There is a working version for the p600. We could use that as base.
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Its an odd topic, sure, I'd live cm12 on this tablet, but losing the multi tasking features would be a set back. Omnirom has multitasking still in development which can be used, but they will never support another exynos based Samsung.
LP please. Once you go LP, you don't look back.
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LP please. Once you go LP, you don't look back.
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I agree. But needs be for the P905 LTE as well because quite frankly almost no one buys WiFi only tabs anymore. In fact where I live can't even buy the WiFi version.. they just don't sell it anymore..
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I agree. But needs be for the P905 LTE as well because quite frankly almost no one buys WiFi only tabs anymore. In fact where I live can't even buy the WiFi version.. they just don't sell it anymore..
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I have no idea where you are coming up with this, i'd argue the majority of tablets sold are in fact wifi only with most people tethering from their phone when they need internet on the go to avoid an additional monthly fee.
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I have no idea where you are coming up with this, i'd argue the majority of tablets sold are in fact wifi only with most people tethering from their phone when they need internet on the go to avoid an additional monthly fee.
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I am "coming up with this" from where I live, Hong Kong. No one buys WiFi only tablets here and no where to be found on sale, unless I go to eBay or resort to alternative ways to get one. Is that simple. And not to mention that the Snapdragon 800 is now an universal platform on HUNDREDS (let me correct that.. millions) of devices of all brands, shapes, sizes and forms worldwide, while the (specific) Exynos chip (and drastically comparatively underperforming) is used ONLY on a select number of Samsung devices. That's it.
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I am "coming up with this" from where I live, Hong Kong. No one buys WiFi only tablets here and no where to be found on sale, unless I go to eBay or resort to alternative ways to get one. Is that simple. And not to mention that the Snapdragon 800 is now an universal platform on HUNDREDS (let me correct that.. millions) of devices of all brands, shapes, sizes and forms worldwide, while the (specific) Exynos chip (and drastically comparatively underperforming) is used ONLY on a select number of Samsung devices. That's it.
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Yes and no.
HongKong is a very specific area that has always worked a bit different from the rest of the market.
It is, in fact, the other way around. Globally more wifi only tablets are sold. There are hundreds of markets where the LTE edition doesnt even reach the shops. (Netherlands is one of them, and we're a first world country. I had to buy my p905 in Germany.)
Add to that the fact that the LTE editions are 100-200 quid more expensive. Which is much, on a device that is already severely overpriced. (the P900 is 800 euro.) (Every device is overpriced in Europe.)
Most people tether. Many providers don't offer multiSIM, and they thus require a double subscription, with all the fees that go with it.
Now the fact that Snapdragon is much more popular is true.
The NotePro is the only Samsung device for which there is more developement for the Exynos than the Snapdragon. All other devices have the very clear 'You want developement, buy the Snapdragon' rule. But not the Note Pro.
And I can't figure out why, because the Exynos one is weaker, unstable and suffers from serious problems.
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Yes and no.
HongKong is a very specific area that has always worked a bit different from the rest of the market.
It is, in fact, the other way around. Globally more wifi only tablets are sold. There are hundreds of markets where the LTE edition doesnt even reach the shops. (Netherlands is one of them, and we're a first world country. I had to buy my p905 in Germany.)
Add to that the fact that the LTE editions are 100-200 quid more expensive. Which is much, on a device that is already severely overpriced. (the P900 is 800 euro.) (Every device is overpriced in Europe.)
Most people tether. Many providers don't offer multiSIM, and they thus require a double subscription, with all the fees that go with it.
Now the fact that Snapdragon is much more popular is true.
The NotePro is the only Samsung device for which there is more developement for the Exynos than the Snapdragon. All other devices have the very clear 'You want developement, buy the Snapdragon' rule. But not the Note Pro.
And I can't figure out why, because the Exynos one is weaker, unstable and suffers from serious problems.
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Thanks for the reply. I agree with you and understand. Its a shame Samsung continues with this stupid lifeline of making different models of the same product line with the different chips.. would be so much easier making all Snapdragon or all Exynos no matter if its the WiFi, 3G or LTE. Anyway.. it is rumored they will launch a larger (around 13") tablet soon to compete with the future larger Ipad/new MacBook Air/Surface. I hope its a one chip ONLY machine no matter the configuration, though probably not and we will have to deal with more variants again. I gotta tell you I am not a person that likes upgrades and can live perfectly with a older OS version as long as my apps work on the device.. CM 10 or 11 all good for me. But after trying lollipop on a friend's new phone, I have to admit its a major upgrade and Google did a really good job. At this point I dont even want to look back past having a unit with a future CM 12 on it
And you are also right on Hong Kong being a special market. The fact is here LTE is cheap as hell and everyone just uses it even more than WiFi. 3G is totally a thing of the past and so incredibly cheap if you want one is almost laughable.. in a good way. Unlimited 4G plans here are very inexpensive and mainstream. And indeed, as overpriced as the 12.2 Tab already is (most Samsung devices actually, reason for which their sales are plunging and other brands are taking over) the truth is when someone has the cash for the Tab, its not a few bucks more between the WiFi and the LTE that makes or breaks the purchase decision. There are almost NO MORE 3G units available for sale anywhere of any type of device and as prices keep falling for LTE plans and the price gap between WiFi and LTE units narrows, I think in the near future almost all devices are simply all LTE.. just as a few years ago 3G was an option and Bluetooth a luxury.. hell, I remember the first laptops with WiFi adapters built-in just 15 years ago and that was groundbreaking. I think devices without LTE radios built-in soon will be a thing of the past. In fact many devices sold here already are LTE-A compatible though few carriers still have that
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The NotePro is the only Samsung device for which there is more developement for the Exynos than the Snapdragon. All other devices have the very clear 'You want developement, buy the Snapdragon' rule. But not the Note Pro.
And I can't figure out why, because the Exynos one is weaker, unstable and suffers from serious problems.
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I'll tell you. First, there are almost no developers having Snapdragon version of NP. Why would they develop for device they don't have? Also this poll tells somehing about devices people here on XDA uses ----> Exynos dominates. So again, they develop for devices they and other users got.
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I'll tell you. First, there are almost no developers having Snapdragon version of NP. Why would they develop for device they don't have? Also this poll tells somehing about devices people here on XDA uses ----> Exynos dominate. So again, they develop for devices they and other users got.
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Got it! Well, I'm very happy to live in a part of the world, where everyone can afford unlimited LTE and have it for the price of a double expresso coffee in the other parts of the world where wifi "dominates". That's all I can say