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Galaxy tab hit by poor sales, production halved

It sounds like a bad news for us Samsung galaxy tab owner. Probably there will be
price reductions in the future.
http://www.devicemag.com/2010/11/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-hit-by-poor-sales-production-halved/

elnoxvie said:
It sounds like a bad news for us Samsung galaxy tab owner. Probably there will be
price reductions in the future.
http://www.devicemag.com/2010/11/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-hit-by-poor-sales-production-halved/
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If the carriers in the US allowed phone, I believe it would be selling quite well.

Just my .02, but i almost guarantee if the phone was functioning, sales would be awesome!! Either way, I love my two tabs, they are perfect in size, speed, and everything! Great device in all.
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That is from one analysts speculation. I'll believe it when I see multiple analyst with the same conclusion.

Just keep in mind that this "production halved" bull**** is coming from ONE source, an analyst named Ashok Kumar. He's not the most reliable of sources.
Here's a breakdown on his ****ed up predictions and analysis just up to last summer, and just about Apple:
http://daringfireball.net/2010/09/kumar_track_record

No evidence or references whatsoever are provided for this info.
Article says "Info suggests" and "an analyst suggests"...
Give me a break... until references and numbers are given... sounds like bs to moi.
I do agree that US sales would be up if it could be used as a phone tho.

xexes said:
No evidence or references whatsoever are provided for this info.
Article says "Info suggests" and "an analyst suggests"...
Give me a break... until references and numbers are given... sounds like bs to moi.
I do agree that US sales would be up if it could be used as a phone tho.
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I would personally think that he does make a little bit of sense on the pricing part. Despite the great features, performance and stability, the price is a too high compared to IPhone which is heavily subsidized when you signed up with some carriers. Not mine but i know most of the carriers don't subsidize much for this phone.

elnoxvie said:
It sounds like a bad news for us Samsung galaxy tab owner. Probably there will be
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How is that bad news for Samsung Tab owners???? I already have one and yes the price will drop but I knew that when I bought mine.... I wanted to enjoy it now and not wait to save a few bucks....
The price drops on everything and there is always a better device on the horizon...

Phone should have been working. Price? Can't blame them for attempting to match Apple, but think the advantages at coming a /bit/ lower would have outweighed the loss of profit per unit.
Least they can drop the price now/offer more features. If they'd have started low, as great as it would have been, if sales had been crazy off the wall, they'd never be able to raise the prices.
So...
Maybe, there's probably a bit of truth to it. If there's a whole load of bundling announced soon (which will be the first step, not dropping the price) it'll be telling.
We'll see.

Not selling well
Here in Thailand it is hard to get your hands on one as it seams the first batch has been sold out.

Hey guys,
i just got mine from Taipei last week, its sold out everwhere over there. I heard their next shipment from the distributors is by the end of the month.
I luckily got mine on the last day of my trip after 2 weeks of constant searching!
the Tab rocks!
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The Tab is selling just fine. They are launching it on 4 carriers.. and when AT&T launches next week it'll be on all 4. It's selling fine. Try and find one in stock at a Sprint store in the Bay Area - I dare you.

I was in a Swisscom shop yesterday here in Switzerland, and they mentioned that they can't get enough in Stock.

here in the philippines it is also almost out of stock very hard to find a shop with remaining stocks also

geogetski666 said:
here in the philippines it is also almost out of stock very hard to find a shop with remaining stocks also
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Oh ****.. Good to hear it's selling well in other countries and that the analyst is wrong. More sales = More development = More benefits for users..

oxeneers said:
The Tab is selling just fine. They are launching it on 4 carriers.. and when AT&T launches next week it'll be on all 4. It's selling fine. Try and find one in stock at a Sprint store in the Bay Area - I dare you.
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did you get the sprint version?

Can't seem to keep them in stock in Canada either. Article is FUD at best. Got mine and I love it.

plain and simple. People will or wont buy it. period.
I love analysts that try and "speculate" on sales forecasts on a device that just got released in a major market what...2 weeks ago?
Did i become impatient and pay the full price? hell ya. am i regretting it? hell no. This is the exact device I've been waiting for...I've played with a ton of different tablets including the original laptop - spin screen tablets...and this is hands down my favorite.
Pocket legends = wow....seriously? on a phone? its every bit as good as the original Everquest graphics were.
enough soap boxing....gonna go waste my day with PL now...as one of my favoritely mocked actors would say... "Shuck it Kumar...Shuck it loooong and hard!"

International version probably does better than North American but it should be no surprise to the carriers because potential customers having been voicing all along that:
International
Voice enabled
More competitive unlimited data plans
North American
No voice
Greedy tiered data plans
On top of that, the Tab's larger screen size is ideal for HD YouTube but there's no 4G on any NA version. I'm on Sprint and 3G buffers too much while watching HD Youtube.

looked at all the mobile manufacturer and nothing even compares to the screen size of the samsung will be released by the 1st quarter of 2011 and by far this is the dream phone i have been longing for a long time been speculating to buy an archos 70 and an android phone but the SGT really gives you the best of both worlds so enuff said this phone will definitely sell and it will have more developers working to port CFW definitely waiting for a cyanogen mod or even a Muiu would be nice

Samsung Galaxy S II tops iPhone 4 sales in UK

http://www.mynextfone.co.uk/news/article/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-tops-iphone-4-sales-in-uk-
With so many GS2 users, I hope Samsung will take the GS2 seriously and fix current problems (battery, etc.). Also, It seems HTC lost much of its sales power (it seems that the Sensation simply can't compete).
To be honest it's not really a fair contest, as the iPhone 4 is last year's news. If iPhone 5 would have been released today, I think we know who would have won...

the linked page - not saying the facts are correct or incorrect, but come on, no source and no actual numbers? this is extremely amateurish.
and to your point that iP4 is too old to be compared to SGS2 I also want to add that UK sales of SGS2 are really actually INTERNATIONAL sales because many people from outside the UK bought their SGS2s through UK channels. Thousands a month I would estimate went off shore.

kreoXDA said:
the linked page - not saying the facts are correct or incorrect, but come on, no source and no actual numbers? this is extremely amateurish.
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That's exactly what I thought when I read it. The site doesn't look very reputable does it.

Noam23 said:
To be honest it's not really a fair contest, as the iPhone 4 is last year's news. If iPhone 5 would have been released today, I think we know who would have won...
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iPhone 5 would have won, we all know that. But I think, they wouldn't have won by "as much" as last year. Just look how many (of course I'm talking about the UK here) solid iPhone users have moved over to Android, or more specifically the GSII.
And I love how Apple release their iPhone - or at least used to - release their iPhone when it was the only thing in the market. Give speculation, tempt users to wait, they then see the flashing iPhone and then say, "oh that device I wanted a couple of months back is old now" So let's just get the iPhone 5.
This year (depending on when Android 4 or Ice Cream is released) it'll actually be vaguely fair. Of course Apple will win because Apple have a product cycle of 1 year. Each iPhone lasts about a year before their software begins to cut off features (to make up upgrade to the new one) and their marketing makes the older model should rubbish. Android phones (the top band) are meant to last longer, so there's no influx of sales. The sales are spread across various manufacturers' flagship models and over the course of the year and over the course of Android updates.
And so if these phones are released within a week of each other (which they won't be because Steve Jobs won't do that....he'll probably delay it) the sales, IMO won't be as huge as they were for the iPhone 4. They still win, but by not as much.

kreoXDA said:
and to your point that iP4 is too old to be compared to SGS2 I also want to add that UK sales of SGS2 are really actually INTERNATIONAL sales because many people from outside the UK bought their SGS2s through UK channels. Thousands a month I would estimate went off shore.
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Look at this:
http://www.samsunghub.com/2011/06/10/over-a-million-galaxy-s-ii-activated-in-south-korea/
1 million SGS2 devices sold in South Korea alone in the 4 weeks of May (!!!)... (just to compare, it took the original iPhone 74 days to reach 1 million users, globally !)
It's hard to comprehend that by now, there could be several million owners of SGS2 globaly. This is insane !!!
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Here is a comparison regarding the SGS2 vs iPhone 4 sales:
- iPhone 4 sold 3 million devices in its first month (Globally).
- SGS2 had 3 million pre-orders globally (that is, before it started to sell).
I think that the SGS2 might be the fastest selling smartphone, ever.

The more SGS2 Samsung sells the better the support will be, so keep on buying

daivik said:
iPhone 5 would have won, we all know that. But I think, they wouldn't have won by "as much" as last year. Just look how many (of course I'm talking about the UK here) solid iPhone users have moved over to Android, or more specifically the GSII.
And I love how Apple release their iPhone - or at least used to - release their iPhone when it was the only thing in the market. Give speculation, tempt users to wait, they then see the flashing iPhone and then say, "oh that device I wanted a couple of months back is old now" So let's just get the iPhone 5.
This year (depending on when Android 4 or Ice Cream is released) it'll actually be vaguely fair. Of course Apple will win because Apple have a product cycle of 1 year. Each iPhone lasts about a year before their software begins to cut off features (to make up upgrade to the new one) and their marketing makes the older model should rubbish. Android phones (the top band) are meant to last longer, so there's no influx of sales. The sales are spread across various manufacturers' flagship models and over the course of the year and over the course of Android updates.
And so if these phones are released within a week of each other (which they won't be because Steve Jobs won't do that....he'll probably delay it) the sales, IMO won't be as huge as they were for the iPhone 4. They still win, but by not as much.
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Nice post but we already have figures which show the SGS2 sold faster?

quad2012 said:
The more SGS2 Samsung sells the better the support will be, so keep on buying
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Well, the original Galaxy S sold about 10 million units globally (true to January 2011). I'm not sure the support was as great as owners hoped...

Noam23 said:
Edit:
Here is a comparison regarding the SGS2 vs iPhone 4 sales:
- iPhone 4 sold 3 million devices in its first month (Globally).
- SGS2 had 3 million pre-orders globally (that is, before it started to sell).
I think that the SGS2 might be the fastest selling smartphone, ever.
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I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.

Rawat said:
I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.
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ditto.....

Noam23 said:
Well, the original Galaxy S sold about 10 million units globally (true to January 2011). I'm not sure the support was as great as owners hoped...
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At lest better than HTC, I cant even remember my Desire getting Gingerbread and even tough all the new sense versions were running just great on it HTC never oficially ported them, they just didnt care at all and pushed phone after phone after phone while samsung ported gingerbread and at least seems to help the community (donated cyanogen devs etc.). Compared to the rest of Manufacturers Samsung actually had a great support even for the sgs1 and I doubt sgs2 is getting a worse one.

Rawat said:
I'm all for some iPhone bashing, and some trolling...
but that 3m pre-orders was from various carriers, not customers.
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Even if you are right (and those 3 million pre-orders are not already at the hand of customers), we already know that it sold 1 million alone in South Korea (in 1 month), and it hasn't even started to sell in the USA, which is the biggest market !!, there is no chance that with the US market included it will fall behind the iPhone 4 sales.

I'm not going to explain in a 10 part post, but daivik is really smart and bullseye on topic. Everything he/she said is on the money
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Hmmm, let me think about this.... If someone comes out with a jackhammer that men can use to sodimize themselves with and it outsells the sgs2 would I care? No. I really dont care how good a piece of hardware it is or who likes it, just aint my thing. So it is with the iphone, if others enjoy it and like how their hardware functions and what it does for them, great. Let them sell a gazillion to those people and let them pour the coals to it. Its got nothing to do with me.

Sanchless said:
Nice post but we already have figures which show the SGS2 sold faster?
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I was just skimming the thread, before my post. And I got the impression that a few were saying that the GSII sales weren't as high. And so I just wanted to give my opinion why and shed some light on the fact that you've always got Apple loyalists, and basically how that is under real threat. And that threat will only grow for Apple in the future.

Where is the cheapest place to buy an SG2 in UK without contract ? Amazon ?

Kajolas said:
Where is the cheapest place to buy an SG2 in UK without contract ? Amazon ?
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Check expanys. They dropped their prices recently.

4.1.1 NEE

Is here
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urkel said:
Is here
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Wi-Fi or 3G?

What is NEE?

its the 3G model the only other model that has got JB is the LTE model (8020)

asdfuogh said:
What is NEE?
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NEE is Sweden. It's the Nordic multi-CSC ROM we're already talking about in other threads.

Ah, damn. I don't know why I was thinking it was some kind of Samsung code word or something. Sorry, from a bad self-centered American! :X

asdfuogh said:
Ah, damn. I don't know why I was thinking it was some kind of Samsung code word or something. Sorry, from a bad self-centered American! :X
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I'm just hoping for someone to get a Wi-Fi update so the poor N8010/13 folks don't have to keep using kluged 3G ROMs.

hey even I am waiting for the update it is really strange why Samsung keeps doing this there is not much difference apart for changing the wireless services

I would have expected the 3G one to be harder to push updates through because it's through wireless services.. :/

No its the same you push it through Wifi or 3G there is no difference it connects to update server and downloads the data does

Someone care to post the build date. I know from the K that its newer then J9 firmware but its still nice to know.

05.11.2012
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nothing for my 8010 in Belgium yet :crying:

All the updates have been for 8000 no other model except for the LTE model has received an update.
Even 8000 not all countries have got the update

When is Samsung going to realize that no one living outside the USA is a real person?

Well I think the largest base of Note for Samsung is outside US so they very well know what they are doing

mitchellvii said:
When is Samsung going to realize that no one living outside the USA is a real person?
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You know - if I honestly thought you were being serious - I'd write a nice long explanation as to why a lot of companies just prefer to pretend the US doesn't exist.
For one thing: Americans tend to be 'trend' buyers. So they buy Apple products WAY out of proportion relative to the world. Macs, for example, are about 6.8% of the world market, but are over 15% of the US market. Stores like Best Buy carry Samsung (heck, they even have Samsung mini-stores in many outlets), but if you actually try to buy accessories for Samsung prods - you're screwed. Now, you want an iPhone case? No problem, two entire racks of those babies.
So, if you're Samsung - who do you invest in? The US, which is a large but almost antagonistic market - or *the rest of the world* who actually likes your products?
Meanwhile, up here in Canada, we get the worst of both worlds because we're too small a population, and too closely associated to the US.
Then again, the first Samsung permanent retail outlet in North America is here - in Vancouver - so I guess this is Samsung's way of saying 'Canada - we know you're not the US... " (Ok ok.. it's really because Samsung sells a much smaller range of products in Canada, so that makes us a good 'test case' to try out a retail store in NA)...
Personally, I'd rather have the ROM update.

Actually, is the same in Europe. You can get a lot of accessories for an icrap and close to nothing for most other brands. I guess the sellers have a bigger cut from the huge prices of apple products, and they are also counting on trends.
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Official Word from HTC: US Release by End of April

Oh well...guess we definitely aren't getting it this month
http://bgr.com/2013/03/22/htc-one-release-date-392552/
HTC has seen unprecedented demand for and interest in the new HTC One, and the care taken to design and build it is evidenced in early reviews. The new HTC One will roll out in the UK, Germany and Taiwan next week and across Europe, North America and most of Asia-Pacific before the end of April. We appreciate our customers’ patience, and believe that once they have the phone in their hands they will agree that it has been worth the wait.
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Figures. Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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I'm actually quickly growing tired of the ever longer delays and push-backs. If this keeps up, I'll just get something else. Some of us don't have the luxury of waiting another month because we need a phone asap.

So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice. <-Sarcasm.

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So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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Not nice for HTC, going toe to toe with the S4 is going to cost them a lot of sales.

NO!!!!
I need one before the 20th for a trip, I don't want to get something else for this. :crying:

Android manufacturers need to fire their planning teams. Every single Android product I have ever bought has been delayed.

bye

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So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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I hope they have fun trying to convince carriers to advertise their phone over the massively popular GS4.

I just confirmed May 6 as the launch date with three different AT&T stores in my area of Louisiana.

Bad move on htc's part. This isnt going to go well for them with the s4 launch.

ratchetjaw said:
Figures. Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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Kind of the same for me. I was gettin a hard on for the thing the first few times I saw it and read about it. now I'm kinda leanin towards a gs4
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Jonathon1710 said:
I just confirmed May 6 as the launch date with three different AT&T stores in my area of Louisiana.
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LOL how did the end of April already become beginning of May!?

I called to ask about pre-ordering the phone and that's what I was told.
Side Note: I didn't even see this forum topic before I called.

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Not nice for HTC, going toe to toe with the S4 is going to cost them a lot of sales.
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Sarcasm fail.

Horrible.

ratchetjaw said:
Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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That's what happens when too much time goes by between announcement and launch; and not just to HTC. The goal should be to build up buzz and then get it in people's hands so word-of-mouth carries the momentum. At launch (or right prior to) is when the big ad spend should kick in to (re)gain and keep attention. Had the schedule stuck they would have been a month ahead of Samsung and not drowned out buy what I'm sure will be Samsung's expansive media spend.
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So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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HTC spent $40MM in advertising last year (a pittance). They're going to get lost against Samsung’s budget. The fact that VZW, the largest U.S. carrier, won't have the One (if they get it) until two months after everyone else won't help. The good news for HTC, at least in the U.S., is most people are using subsidized phones so they’re in the market for a new phone when their contract allows them to be. So it's a steady stream of potential customers and the launch euphoria for both the One and SGS4 won't really affect their purchase decision as much as word-of-mouth and how the two phones actually perform.
And HTC fans and Samsung haters are going to buy the One anyway. Just as Samsung fans and HTC haters are going to buy the SGS4; no matter when both are available. People open to both are most likely to be impacted by Samsung's advertising and larger media coverage and the 30 day head start would have helped HTC.

Pretty disappointing. I may be able to wait, but there is absolutely no chance the general population will choose the one over the sgs4 when they see them side by side. Especially after seeing 10000 commercials on tv for the next galaxy phone.
I feel sorry for htc, that was a horrible decision. They're just digging their own grave on this one.
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Dug their own grave you mean. It's over. Still a nice phone but they just lost their chance.
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What happened to "delay will not affect US launch"? smh

US Price trend

what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit

ingalaxy said:
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
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$120-149 for the one on pre order DNA will porn be free or 49
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ingalaxy said:
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
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It depends on how well both the One and SGS4 sell for AT&T. If the One holds its own AT&T will keep it at $199 for as long as they can. LG's having a launch event for the OG Pro on May 1 and AT&T usually carries their high-end devices. An iP5 is supposed to be available in June. There's going to be a lot on the shelves at AT&T this summer. Based on One inventory they've stocked or commited to if it's not making its numbers expect some discounting after 30-60 days. And usually the discounting starts with the VARS; at least that's what happened with the DNA. If you find a cheaper price at a (reputable) VAR AT&T will match it over the phone.

Paleryder said:
$120-149 for the one on pre order DNA will porn be free or 49
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Sigh at least say AFTER 2 year contract. I know on t-mobile the The One is $579 outright. $99 upfront +$20 a month if you choose to pay it off over 24 months.

Looks to me the DNA just had a bad release time... it was in between the other major phones

Element515 said:
Looks to me the DNA just had a bad release time... it was in between the other major phones
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And what do you consider a release at the same time as the S4? Good time?

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And what do you consider a release at the same time as the S4? Good time?
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Along with articles releasing about Samsung having to pay kids to bash HTC? I'd say it's pretty good timing.

Releasing with the S4 isn't awful. That's the competition and people will pick what they want. Both were announced early enough ahead of time we all have discussed and watched every youtube video on them. The DNA if I am right came out in november/december time frame... it's nice, but the One is clearly better... and just 4-5months later? I'd be pissed.. and there, you are screwing your own costomers.

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Along with articles releasing about Samsung having to pay kids to bash HTC? I'd say it's pretty good timing."
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And I'm sure all the claims being made are totally without bias and Samsung will be treated fairly. And the supposed event occurred last year with the SGS3's launch and the "kids" weren't hired by Samsung they were working for a third party marketing company.
"HTC’s operations have weakened, impacting Taiwan’s export figures, resulting in 5 successive months of negative growth and seriously affecting Taiwan’s economic growth. In order to stop the decline, Minister of Economic Affairs Shih Yen-shiang today (the 10th) called for his fellow countrymen to “Affirm and support HTC, starting with loving and using their mobile phones”. This statement prompted backlash on the internet,*PTT*saw countless posts slammed, criticizing HTC for considering themselves to be a mainland Chinese brand and belittling Taiwan, [with netizens] unable to agree with Shih Yen-shiang’s point of view.Shih Yen-shiang revealed that he and the Vice-Economic Minister both use HTC phones, that the government has a close relationship with HTC, provides assistance, and hopes that everyone will unite in supporting domestic companies. Netizens didn’t show any appreciation, wit some people with angrily digging out HTC chairman Cher Wang’s past statements, pointing to her having said “HTC is an indigenous Chinese brand”, so Taiwanese officials now calling for the masses to support a ‘non-Taiwanese brand’ is truly unpersuasive."​
http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stor...ent-calls-on-citizens-to-buy-support-htc.html

Due to relatively high inflation rate I think the trend will no more be so good.
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less than 150. a good price