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Nexus One first week sales = weak.((20k))

http://www.pcworld.com/article/1867...irst_week_of_sales_were_weak_report_says.html
Thats a ton of complaints coming out for only 20k sales.
Not being available in T-Mo stores really hurt sales. I think being able to see this screen and hold it in person would move a hell of alot more units.
he Nexus One didn't benefit from such a strong marketing push like the Motorola Droid (estimated $100 million), despite Google's phone featuring so-far unique Android features. This has reflected in poor first week sales for the Nexus One, as per the table below. (Click image above to enlarge)
Instead, Google chose a soft launch for the Nexus One, selling it through their website. But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales.
Flurry's report mentions that the Nexus One lacks the "wow factor" and the general perception that the device is not seen as revolutionary, but rather just evolutionary from other Android phones.
Om Malik, of GigaOm, notes that Flurry's estimated sales numbers for the Nexus One might even be a bit far fetched. He mentions Google has been giving away the Nexus One to its employees and also lent it to many members of the media for reviews, which could have bumped up Flurry's analytics.
Next to the poor first week sales figure, the Nexus One has also seen mounting complaints over the 3G connectivity of the device and the lack of developer tools for the Android 2.1 platform.
In her review of the Nexus One, my colleague Ginny Mies notes that Google's phone "isn't quite the game-changer people hoped it would be, though it certainly trumps other phones in performance, display quality, and speed." Next to pros like a dazzling OLED display, snappy performance and sleep, slim design, she marks the lack of multitouch support and the software keyboard as cons.
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE

melterx12 said:
I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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awww Fuuudgdeeee
Had to be 2 new yorkers didnt it. lol
Agree with this though. Ive been saying I hope a ton of people want it but few get it. That way Google is pressed to resolve there customer service and HW issues and early adopters dont look like bandwagon jumpers for the latest fashion device.
On the flip side... I hope Google doesnt turn around and blame Tmobile. Tmo and Google have been continually bringing out Android sets I hope that relationship doesnt sour because of this.

Actually 20k in sales for a phone that has reportedly had the vast majority of users buy the unlocked version is pretty damn good (Leo Laporte mentioned it on TWiT on Sunday)
melterx12 said:
I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....

The bad press on this phone is silly. It takes nothing into consideration, bends around the truth, and just sounds misinformed. This phone had a soft launch, wasn't available in stores, no television ads, and wasn't really advertised by Google until the day of it's launch.
These soft launches make an impact. Word will spread and then it will pop up and explode on Verizon. I'm not even trying to defend the device, it just makes me angry seeing so much misinformed crap popping up on the web.
"But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
Mixed reviews meaning angry fanboys? I don't get it. The thing runs Android really well, is fast as hell, looks great, has a good camera, etc. I have no idea what people were expecting. Android has been out, and this was stated to be an Android device.

mark925 said:
As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
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+1
everybody and their dog has an iphone. i'd rather have something few others do

To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.

My proverbial 2 cents...
#1. It's hard for someone to drop that much cash on a phone unseen. Like others have pointed out, it's hard to sell a mobile phone without being able to "touch" it and play with it at a retail store.
#2. The N1 is one of the first handsets relatively available for purchase which has the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor. I honestly think the "hacking" community for the N1 will be similar of what the G1 (HTC Dream) has seen... In other words, the HTC Passion is basically the next great hacking platform as the HTC Dream experienced.
Cheers,
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So essentially 1 in 150,000 Americans (ROUGHLY, only considering domestic sales) are packin the N1 - Sounds like a pretty elite/exclusive group if you ask me

booloobunny said:
..."But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
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Also, to add onto this...I don't think the price is steep at all. In fact it is cheaper than many other unlocked devices with lesser hardware. Also, it has been pointed out in many places that getting the unlocked version is cheaper than going with the subsidized version and mandatory plan.

When a phone can be purchased only from one location and one URL only gadget freaks like us know about it's existence. Some of my friends who think they are gadget freaks were shocked to see my phone over the weekend. They didn't even know about it yet. Forget the common man. Unless, the phone is sold in T-mobile, and B&M stores, it will be hard to sell like Driod.
Except for lousy T-mobile 3G inside buildings, I love this phone. But I am seriously thinking about returning just to go back to AT&T as I would like to stay with the best GSM carrier who gets most unlocked 3G phones so I can keep changing my phones every few months.

uansari1 said:
To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
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I agree. This seems similar to Gmail when it was in Beta....and Gvoice. Only certain people had it and it was invite only. This seems to make a launch more manageable (less volume) and the inital adopters are the ones who typically want it the most and spread the word to others for free.

I want one... I just don't want to pay $530 to be a beta tester. I think once the 3g issues are solved we'll see alot more people pay for the phone

once Verizon and vodaphone get this phone. Sales will SKY rocket.

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The only way for a big change in sales would be to sell the Nexus One in stores, mainstream buyers are not going to spend premium money on a handset that they can not handle first.
There are not enough early adopters and tech heads like most of us on this site to make a major impact on sales. Plus many of us are holding off to see how the 3G issue gets handled before buying.

since they didnt really air commercial for the phone and it is only available online. the numbers are pretty good.

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Yeah... Putting the parts together... probably costs more than the parts themselves, including labor.
Sure, I could get the "parts" for my car too for less than a quarter of what it sells for... I wouldn't want to try to assemble it though!
Cheers,
Kermee

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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...not to mention R&D

I still have people ask me when its coming out when I show them mine, this phone is still very "underground"

melterx12 said:
The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Can you send me a link to where you found out the hardware only cost $175 for the nexus one. I would like to see how much the snapdragon proc costs, and the 512mb of ram, and all the other components in the phone, and just the cost of putting it together.
And I am not referring to licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
Just the hardware and the costs to put the phone together. I call bull**** on the $175 dollars.
That is how much it might cost to put together the iphone 3gs with much cheaper hardware. But the Nexus One hardware is another story.

AT&T-branded phone not looking good for U.S. Release

The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).

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The more I read (which is entirely too much lately), the more it seems that the SG2 is going to take a long time to have an "official" release in the US. I try to put myself in the position of there possibly being two different consumers (one for the Infuse and one for the SG2). Unfortunately, I don't think there is a "need" for both devices. It really seems counterproductive for AT&T to release the SG2 so soon after the release of the Infuse.
Call me paranoid but, I would REALLY like to have a phone that isn't a gray item (for warranty). I have faith in the hardware but you never know with electronics.
Anyone have an opinion on it? I have an iP4 which is perfectly fine. I just REALLY want to get an Android device and would prefer to stay on AT&T (service locally is good, and I am on an unlimited data plan).
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If your iphone is in good shape and unlocked, sell on ebay for loads of cash. Purchase a sgs2 for 700-750. Still will be able to use your unlimited plan.
But I really dont see SGS2 on ATT anytime soon.

I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!

You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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cmd512 said:
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.

josuetenista said:
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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You'd be wrong, twice. It does indeed work on AT&Ts 3G/"4G" bands [unlocked]. Its also called the Motorola Atrix 4G, not the attic. While quick, MotoBLUR is garbage.

cmd512 said:
I thought there was some big non-carrier specific announcement by Samsung in New York on May 24th or something? Honestly, the Infuse is just an oversized SGS with an overclocked CPU.
If you've seen the video demonstrations of just how powerful the SGSII is, you'll start to realize these two devices are actually worlds apart. I'm using an unbranded SGSII, but if you're holding out for AT&T's version, don't give up yet!
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There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though

josuetenista said:
You cold buy a SG2 overseas but it won't work on the same 3g band as AT&T. If you are planning to stay on at&t why don't you.buy the Motorola attic. I own one and its incredibly fast.
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I've messed with an Atrix. Seemed OK. Not spectacular though. I have a friend who actually returned his for the HTC Inspire (and loves it). That doesn't speak well to me. Plus EVERYTHING I've seen about the SG2 proves it's definitely the cat's meow (currently).

kakwvu said:
I'm leaning on taking the dive early. And wicked car in your sig.
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Appreciate it, friend.
mattism78 said:
There's an announcement planned, yes. However, it could easily be for the AT&T branded Nexus S or one of the new tablets.
To those of us who care about hardware the phones (Infuse and SG2) are definitely worlds apart. However to Joe Consumer who doesn't know or care about hardware specs, I don't think it will matter.
The wife keeps giving me the evil-eye when I mention ordering one from the UK. I think I'm wearing her down though
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It's not just about the specs, those specs translate into REAL world performance differences. The SGSII has not even had the slightest hiccup with web browsing... regardless of how many windows are open, how many graphics are in each window, etc. My SGS, while great when it came out, easily got bogged down, and multi-window browsing was never a truly usable feature. Given the Infuse is has almost identical specs to an SGS, I predict it will have similar issues.
People keep thinking these specs being listed off are only for geeks, but once in a while, they do relate to real world usability and performance differences. And when they do, they are QUITE significant.

The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.

BarryH_GEG said:
The title of your thread almost gave me a heart attack thinking there was some type of major technical issue uncovered. My SGS2 arrives tomorrow. More appropriate title would be "AT&T-branded phone not looking good in the U.S."
I guarantee you several hundred thousand of the 3MM presales are destined for AT&T. If you poke around the technical sites, the general consensus is a 4G version for VZW followed by AT&T this year. Nobody's even mentioning Sprint or T-Mobile. Depending on the timing, the SGS2 could be AT&T's first LTE phone. I haven't seen any updates on their LTE status but I'm guessing they're pushing to get something up quickly to show the world they'll be as good as VZW in the long run.
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Sorry about the startle. I changed the title of the thread.
I am just frustrated (as are many I'm sure). I'd like to offload my iP4 before the value drops too much (iP5 release). Unfortunately, I'm unable to go without a phone and I am really nervous about a gray market item. Hell even an unbranded Samsung direct phone would work for me. I'm going to have to pay full price anyhow.

Yeah, I think ATT will get the SGS2 with LTE.

Use the fuzzy math I used to convince myself the phone was only $475. $800 - $325 (sold G2) = $475 Can you really put a price on whipping your phone out and gathering a crowd around to see it for a couple of months? My take on buying an import is you spin the wheel and take your chances. If you buy it in the UK, Samsung U.S. will service it. If you buy from Expansys they'll ship it back to the UK for you for service. How long you're without a phone is probably the biggest concern. If you use a credit card with buyers and/or warranty protection you'd have a back-up that will at least get you your money back. Go ahead, you know you want to do it

The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.

Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
I bet the event is for sgs2 variants. Nexus s doesn't warrant a bug event just like here in Canada it came quietly on all carriers. No big announcements. Many peope don't even know it lol.
The phone is been out a month and is at&t compatible. The event is def. about something more exciting

I'm in the same boat here, too. However after my experience with the Captivate, and the shoddy quality control of its hardware, and the still-present GPS woes and color-banding issues on the SGS II, it seems Samsung rushed yet another product to market and perhaps these extra couple months we'll have to wait will be well worth it in the end.

nomisunrider said:
The event is NOT for the Nexus S for AT&T. Otherwise it would be an event WITH AT&T, not an independent Samsung event.
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Could be the Tab 8.9 though.

I was wondering what could be that of the SGS II that recently went through the FCC with AT&T only bands?
I hoping the announcement on the 25th will be that Samsung will sell the GS II unlocked in the states and working on AT&T's network just like Google does sell their Nexus phones.

phonex1 said:
Hang in there OP. I am in the same boat. I refuse to replace my iPhone 4 with a $750 phone that will be $500 through my carrier. That's $250 in my pocket. Another $250 and I can buy one for my wife
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Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*

funnycreature said:
Do you really think it will be $500 subsidized??? There goes my dream of getting it through AT&T!!! The company only pays up to $100 for a new phone so $400 more is hefty *sob*
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Go to "USA May 24th announcement" thread to discuss this, I think I mentioned pricing there, or I may be wrong.
I think there is no way the phone will be more than $250 with a 2 year contract on AT&T. My opinion (based on 12 years of buying AT&T phones on 4 lines) it will be around $250, before or after $50 mail-in rebate, depending on when it is getting released. Maybe just straight forward $200 with no rebates if it is released in the fall.

Galaxy SII sales 6 million!

Seems to be beyond my expectations.
How can the sale be so much without being released everywhere yet? (hint:US)
http://www.digitalversus.com/samsung-galaxy-ii-over-six-million-handsets-sold-news-20244.html
http://www.mobmit.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-iphones-imposing-rival-hits-6-million-sales/
What do you guys say? Cooked-up numbers or just inevitable success?

Because it is just the best phone ever.

WOW EPIC!!

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digtalversus.com do a performance test, you can get it on market, look up "vellamo" and download and try, my score was 938 on my sg2, just behind the samsung 10.1 tab

I'm doing my part... Just bought myself one of these bad boys ;-)

This kinda sucks lol
who wanna have a phone, wich almost everyone else has? c'mon i wanna be something 'special'... it's kinda like the iph*** almost EVERYONE has it, that sucks, lol i think i'm gonna sell my GS2 now lol

I've seen SGS2 prices drop by almost 20% starting from May and original SGS seems to sell good aswell.

jebus
That's ridiculous considering the fact that US hasn't seen their share of SGSII
Now we know why apple is trying to speed up the litigation process to get it banned

Sorrow1994 said:
This kinda sucks lol
who wanna have a phone, wich almost everyone else has?
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I know you are not being entirely serious but lots of people also means lots of support and development, so yeah, I do like it and actually haven't seen a lot of people walking around with it yet. Did get some comments about my phone being more bad ass than a laptop

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Now we know why apple is trying to speed up the litigation process to get it banned
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I would not be surprised if Apple abandons the charges against Samsung after the new iPhone model is introduced in the US. The "game" is to stall SGS2 sales and keep the numbers down

nice that a phone finally is available in europe before the us ... considering how much of the innovation came from here

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jebus
That's ridiculous considering the fact that US hasn't seen their share of SGSII
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So you think that 5% of the world population will do a huge difference for the sales of SGS2? Sure US is richer that he average country, so it might count for even 10 or 15% of the sales in the end but probably not more than that.

rd_nest said:
Seems to be beyond my expectations.
How can the sale be so much without being released everywhere yet? (hint:US)
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US aint the biggest consumer of mobile phone, they are even outranked by Asia and Europe, I read an article about mobile phone sales and IIRC, US was just ranked at 5th or 6th.

EarlZ said:
US aint the biggest consumer of mobile phone, they are even outranked by Asia and Europe, I read an article about mobile phone sales and IIRC, US was just ranked at 5th or 6th.
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Quite possible. I saw somewhere (no source to quote) China Telecom itself has arond 600million suscribers. That's more than the population of any country bar India/China.
If you conquer Europe and Asia, I believe the company would be more than satisfied with their result.

Looks like they're well on their way to hit 10 million units sold by years end. Best selling Android phone two years in a row. Way to go Samsung!
Approximately 2 million of the 12+ million SGS 1's sold were from North America, it didn't sell that well in the United States. I predict 3-4 million SGS 2's will sell in the United States before the end of the year, if the carriers don't **** it up.
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Looks like they're well on their way to hit 10 million units sold by years end. Best selling Android phone two years in a row. Way to go Samsung!
Approximately 2 million of the 12+ million SGS 1's sold were from North America, it didn't sell that well in the United States. I predict 3-4 million SGS 2's will sell in the United States before the end of the year, if the carriers don't **** it up.
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I have no authority in this subject, but I am sure that they will fcuk up the device royally. Already seen that Sprint has a different design. All rumurs point to AT&T having a different physical design/layout. Why do you have all these different versions? Surely something will miss the intended target and you will notice GPS not working or Wifi reception poor or some other piss poor performance. Just let it be like internation versions, and everything (well most things) will be in order.

Impressive.
I think Apple are in a bit of trouble, they will have to compete with the SGS2 with the iPhone 5 which with the A5 they can easily do but within 6 months or probably allot sooner they will also be up against SGS3 and Tegra 3 devices.
I just hope Samsung launch products in the US earlier next time and give Apple a real headache.

rd_nest said:
Seems to be beyond my expectations.
How can the sale be so much without being released everywhere yet? (hint:US)
http://www.digitalversus.com/samsung-galaxy-ii-over-six-million-handsets-sold-news-20244.html
http://www.mobmit.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-iphones-imposing-rival-hits-6-million-sales/
What do you guys say? Cooked-up numbers or just inevitable success?
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its been release in europe since june
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Poker gypsy said:
its been release in europe since june
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end of april in UK and Korea, in May in many countries in europe

Elar said:
I would not be surprised if Apple abandons the charges against Samsung after the new iPhone model is introduced in the US. The "game" is to stall SGS2 sales and keep the numbers down
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Exactly. And they will NOT succeed.. End of.

A good chance for HTC following S4 pricing

Hi guys
I think like quite a lot of buyers I was originally deciding between the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S4. They're both great phones in their own different ways, but after the delays and other setbacks for HTC, I was worried that the One might get sidelined like the One X last year.
Anyway, having just seen the Galaxy S4 prices (around 580 pounds), I think there's a small ray of hope for HTC. Although it's still expensive, the 32G One offers great value for money. Hopefully this will give consumers something to consider before they rush out and buy the S4.
Of course I don't doubt the S4 will still sell like hotcakes, but at least in these early weeks and months HTC will be able to offer (in my opinion) a better price/performance ratio versus the 16G Snapdragon S4 variant. I hope HTC can capitalise on this opportunity.
P.S. I don't intend this as flamebait, so moderators please feel free to lock or delete this thread if it gets out of hand. I just thought it's nice for HTC to have some good news for a change

There's no news here. :/

Dharkan said:
There's no news here. :/
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Sorry, I didn't mean to mislead, I just thought the competition's higher prices will help to give HTC and the One a little more breathing room.

I really hope HTC push a really good marketing campaign for this phone, it really does deserve it. I still see so many posts on fbook with people asking "S4 or iphone5 which should i buy" everytime i mention the HTC One and its as if no ones ever heard of HTC before...
- Adam

Misleading thread title: please change it.

Along with this it seems HTC are actually trying to push some marketing out....(There's a thread somewhere about it in here) In the UK there's TV adverts showing up pretty regularly. Which I'm pretty sure I've not seen from HTC before. Really hope things go well for them this year!

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Along with this it seems HTC are actually trying to push some marketing out....(There's a thread somewhere about it in here) In the UK there's TV adverts showing up pretty regularly. Which I'm pretty sure I've not seen from HTC before. Really hope things go well for them this year!
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If HTC spends a lot this time in marketing this beautiful phone they could really benefit. The old saying, "It takes money to make money" is so true for them.
You want to know why Samsung is the #1 best selling phone in the world? They spend the most marketing dollars than anyone in the business to be there.

Re: Some good news for HTC
No matter how much we fans of the HTC One want it to succeed and do better than the s4, it won't happen.
Samsung is a beast on marketing and it will kill the sales of the HTC one, especially here in the states due to the delay and basically coming out at the same time as the s4.
Just how it will be, its inevitable.
Also here in the states on T-Mobile, they both will be 99$ down payment and believe 580 total. So no difference in price.
Its unfortunate, but a reality.
With that said, more than likely I will be getting an HTC One, if I can keep holding out. Really like the Note 2 as well.
Sent from a galaxy far away!

For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.

Dazrin said:
For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.
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Sprint's pricing will more than likely be at $199, and T-Mobile has already confirmed it's availability of the 32GB model at $99. AT&T will follow suit from either of those. As far as pricing, HTC does have a good chance to make a difference here.

Dazrin said:
For the US, AT&T just announced that the S4 will be $250 w/ 2 yr contract - if HTC can keep theirs down at $200 that may help HTC quite a bit.
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Yep, after reading the GSM Arena comparison yesterday, I have been starting to lean a little towards buying the Samsung. If Sprint has the One $50 cheaper and I can get another $100 on an HTC buyback, that would almost certainly be enough to get me to stay with the One.

Funny thing about the GSMArena S4 review though - in the comparison they said that the S4 has a better audio output than the One, but whereas in the One's review they've published their standard audio frequency test, in the S4's review it was surprisingly no where to be found, nor even mentioned.
Biased?

US Price trend

what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit

ingalaxy said:
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
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$120-149 for the one on pre order DNA will porn be free or 49
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ingalaxy said:
what would be the price trend for HTC One in US?
giving that DNA price dropping like a stone after it released last year.
i played with it in ATT store and i liked it, just not sure if i should wait a little bit
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It depends on how well both the One and SGS4 sell for AT&T. If the One holds its own AT&T will keep it at $199 for as long as they can. LG's having a launch event for the OG Pro on May 1 and AT&T usually carries their high-end devices. An iP5 is supposed to be available in June. There's going to be a lot on the shelves at AT&T this summer. Based on One inventory they've stocked or commited to if it's not making its numbers expect some discounting after 30-60 days. And usually the discounting starts with the VARS; at least that's what happened with the DNA. If you find a cheaper price at a (reputable) VAR AT&T will match it over the phone.

Paleryder said:
$120-149 for the one on pre order DNA will porn be free or 49
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Sigh at least say AFTER 2 year contract. I know on t-mobile the The One is $579 outright. $99 upfront +$20 a month if you choose to pay it off over 24 months.

Looks to me the DNA just had a bad release time... it was in between the other major phones

Element515 said:
Looks to me the DNA just had a bad release time... it was in between the other major phones
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And what do you consider a release at the same time as the S4? Good time?

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And what do you consider a release at the same time as the S4? Good time?
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Along with articles releasing about Samsung having to pay kids to bash HTC? I'd say it's pretty good timing.

Releasing with the S4 isn't awful. That's the competition and people will pick what they want. Both were announced early enough ahead of time we all have discussed and watched every youtube video on them. The DNA if I am right came out in november/december time frame... it's nice, but the One is clearly better... and just 4-5months later? I'd be pissed.. and there, you are screwing your own costomers.

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Along with articles releasing about Samsung having to pay kids to bash HTC? I'd say it's pretty good timing."
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And I'm sure all the claims being made are totally without bias and Samsung will be treated fairly. And the supposed event occurred last year with the SGS3's launch and the "kids" weren't hired by Samsung they were working for a third party marketing company.
"HTC’s operations have weakened, impacting Taiwan’s export figures, resulting in 5 successive months of negative growth and seriously affecting Taiwan’s economic growth. In order to stop the decline, Minister of Economic Affairs Shih Yen-shiang today (the 10th) called for his fellow countrymen to “Affirm and support HTC, starting with loving and using their mobile phones”. This statement prompted backlash on the internet,*PTT*saw countless posts slammed, criticizing HTC for considering themselves to be a mainland Chinese brand and belittling Taiwan, [with netizens] unable to agree with Shih Yen-shiang’s point of view.Shih Yen-shiang revealed that he and the Vice-Economic Minister both use HTC phones, that the government has a close relationship with HTC, provides assistance, and hopes that everyone will unite in supporting domestic companies. Netizens didn’t show any appreciation, wit some people with angrily digging out HTC chairman Cher Wang’s past statements, pointing to her having said “HTC is an indigenous Chinese brand”, so Taiwanese officials now calling for the masses to support a ‘non-Taiwanese brand’ is truly unpersuasive."​
http://www.chinasmack.com/2012/stor...ent-calls-on-citizens-to-buy-support-htc.html

Due to relatively high inflation rate I think the trend will no more be so good.
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less than 150. a good price