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Dual Boot?

Would it be possibleto dual-boot a desktop OS like windows or more likely, ubuntu?
And if so, will things like firefox and torrents work?
And if so...a gtab would replace a lappy....
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Windows, I am sorry to say 100% NO.
Galaxy Tab or rather Tegra 2 is an ARM architecture (SoC - system on chip) completely different from x86 platform (coming from the first IBM PC XT). Windows 8 is supposed to be designed with both platforms in mind as ARM architecture is slowly catching up with x86 capabilities.
In regard of LINUX... I do not know but I would be rather surprised if there were no other than Android distributions based on this system.
Try this links:
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/
http://www.ubuntu.com/news/arm-linux
or simply google ;-)

Possible Port for Windows 8 ARM for mobile

Hello,
I've owed an x10 and SGS-II.
Windows 8 ARM hasn't been released as of now but is someone planning to port it to SGS-II?
The reason I ask is because it looks very nice & would love to see something different on SGS-II
This is just a discussion any constructive comments are welcome.

as a pure development project it might be fun to do such
but as a daily driver OS, Win8 is definitely a no go

maybe will see win8 in our sgs III with 2ghz quad core

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maybe will see win8 in our sgs III with 2ghz quad core
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i agree
as Win8 is basically = Win7 + Windows Mobile 7 Launcher + ARM CPU support
so that is basicaly a super beefup version of Win7, which translates into very heavy hardware requirement for it to run properly
basically you need a laptop the size of a phone, for it to run

Haven't people been able to "run" it with ancient Pentiums and 128 MB ram?
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AllGamer said:
i agree
as Win8 is basically = Win7 + Windows Mobile 7 Launcher + ARM CPU support
so that is basicaly a super beefup version of Win7, which translates into very heavy hardware requirement for it to run properly
basically you need a laptop the size of a phone, for it to run
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I've read that it has lower requirements. There are also some other changes(some of them also improvements like reduced boot time)

AllGamer said:
i agree
as Win8 is basically = Win7 + Windows Mobile 7 Launcher + ARM CPU support
so that is basicaly a super beefup version of Win7, which translates into very heavy hardware requirement for it to run properly
basically you need a laptop the size of a phone, for it to run
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I don't think so mate. The requirements for Windows 8 ARM is pretty low. Microsoft announced that it will run very smooth on tablets (they did a demo as well) and it requires pretty low resources (since windows 8 itself uses a Very low ram).
People at xperia x10 are looking forward to port it so I thought why not?
SGS-III? lol. I'd dream about it.

Neo said:
I don't think so mate. The requirements for Windows 8 ARM is pretty low. Microsoft announced that it will run very smooth on tablets (they did a demo as well) and it requires pretty low resources (since windows 8 itself uses a Very low ram).
People at xperia x10 are looking forward to port it so I thought why not?
SGS-III? lol. I'd dream about it.
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It works on my old desktop so our super fast dual core phone should take it easily
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+1 win 8 for sgsII is like child playing with toy... ARM version will req a very low hardware spec. Hoping too see it on this mean machine

Win8 ARM hardware drivers for the SGS2-specific hardware would need to be written from scratch, so don't hold your breath.

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Haven't people been able to "run" it with ancient Pentiums and 128 MB ram?
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Don't make the mistake of comparing mobile to desktop. MHZ/GHZ processor speeds don't mean jack when comparing between CPU/GPU architecture types.
Just because some spec somewhere says it's designed to be able to run on ARM processors and some or our phones use ARM processors, doesn't mean we are go for launch. We may not be comparing apples with oranges here, but we certainly are comparing tangerines with oranges. Some of these chips can be much bigger and power-hungrier than anything we see in the SGS2

kal-el can totally Handel it perfectly.
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I guess they will eventually merge WP7 and W8 for ARM, same thing that is about to happen to Android.
For now I am quite happy with Android on my phone, and if the Win32 pogramms wont work on a W8 tablet I see no point in getting one either. Android is growing like crazy (software and hardware), so I can not see a reason to abandon this platform (except maybe for MeeGo, incredible what the people did with the n900).
Although Tablet+VLC would make a hell of a mediaplayer....

Win phone 8 on SGSII
Reviving this thread...considering now much is known about the platform, is there a chance of a port on SGSII?

i think we will see some tryout ports coming very soon.
ive run w8 on some really crappy machines, much more worse specs then s2.
however i think port is depending on the fact how many people will really want it and how many devs
are willing to do it..

whats the OS in nokia lumia 920 windows 8 or windows 7?

This probably isn't possible because I think windows phones are partitioned differently. Basically its gonna be difficult or nearly impossible.
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You guys do realize that the GSII is more than capable of running WP8? The Lumia 920 has a S4 dual core and handles it effortlessly, the GSII would be able to handle it aswell since the Exynos 4210 is still very damn good.

Phistachio said:
You guys do realize that the GSII is more than capable of running WP8? The Lumia 920 has a S4 dual core and handles it effortlessly, the GSII would be able to handle it aswell since the Exynos 4210 is still very damn good.
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It's not the matter of hardware. There are many other things to consider too. Already we have problems with CM10. WP8 just spells more trouble.
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MarioFan1998 said:
It's not the matter of hardware. There are many other things to consider too. Already we have problems with CM10. WP8 just spells more trouble.
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I know, as everyone was just talking about hw, I gave my opinion I'm not even going to talk about the complications with porting the kernel, drivers, gpu drivers, adapting thethe mali to a whole new os, surfaceflinger, hwcomposer and so much more...

Debian vs windows 8

What would be fast on a old dell with 1.oghz
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Debian
Shark_On_Land said:
What would be fast on a old dell with 1.oghz
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I'm pretty sure Debian would run way faster than Windows 8 on your Dell. My old Toshiba Satellite is running Ubuntu 11.10 way faster than it did Windows Vista.

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What would be fast on a old dell with 1.oghz
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of course debian or at least just run windows 7 windows 8 is not PC friendly as much as windows 7 its a dev preview not even a beta yet so its not even worth keeping as a daily OS because march will come around and then youll need to install the beta
im not gonna be one of those ass holes and say its the wrong section lol but yeah dude watch out lucky this aint the android forum

atadres said:
of course debian or at least just run windows 7 windows 8 is not PC friendly as much as windows 7 its a dev preview not even a beta yet so its not even worth keeping as a daily OS because march will come around and then youll need to install the beta
im not gonna be one of those ass holes and say its the wrong section lol but yeah dude watch out lucky this aint the android forum
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Yeah, thanks for not completely burning me but I use Windows 8 as my daily OS and even though I mostly post on the Android forums, I think I have some rights to post here right?
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Windows will never be faster than linux, especially on slower/older computers!

When it comes to net books.
I've found that
Linux is faster than windows 7 32 bit. 64 bit windows is terrible to run.
Windows 8 64 bit runs great almost as good as Ubuntu.
Both the net books I've installed this on are atom based and have maxed memory.

windows 8 is much lighter and quicker than the older versions of windows but i think linux still takes the cake this round but it is still just a dev preview that we are seeing now.

Windows V Linux
There is a lot of populous opinion being regurgitated here. I have to agree though that on older hardware Linux has a better chance of performing well but just like any OS if you want it to feel snappy you wont be able to load it with all of the bells and whistles that a new machine will support.
Beyond that I've done some evaluations between Windows and Linux, Ubuntu specifically. Using a couple of models of laptop ranging from 1-3 years old Windows 7 booted faster and consistently ran better/faster than the same pc on linux. We ran the test as side by side comparisons then switch OS's and reran the test.
These were all default installs with only drivers or applications being tested added where necessary.
Overall Windows required fewer clicks and less time to perform the tasks being tested. The only area where Ubuntu was a clear winner wan in a simpler install and setup process than windows. After that it either tied or lost to windows.
We didn't include cost or time to train in our evaluation.

Lacedaemon said:
I'm pretty sure Debian would run way faster than Windows 8 on your Dell. My old Toshiba Satellite is running Ubuntu 11.10 way faster than it did Windows Vista.
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Well yeah, vista is the worst system hog Microsoft has ever released.
Windows 8 supposedly is the lightest Os Microsoft has released in a long time. I've seen it work better on some computers than XP. Just my 2¢

Lacedaemon said:
I'm pretty sure Debian would run way faster than Windows 8 on your Dell. My old Toshiba Satellite is running Ubuntu 11.10 way faster than it did Windows Vista.
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Well, Windows Vista was a hot mess, so I don't think that's a good metric
I've found that Windows 7 (and perhaps Windows 8, but it won't slim down enough to fit on my netbook) was much better at handling disk IO than Ubuntu. This was particularly important for my netbook, which has a very cheap 4gb SSD that locks up on writing. Windows XP and Ubuntu were about the same on this problem, Windows 7 seemed to understand that it needed no access time and a few other tweaks, and handled that right out of the box.
In your case, though, given the processor, I'd say Debian would probably run faster. If you want to do some anecdotal benchmarks, though, I'd be curious to see them.

Not really a fair question yet, as Win 8 is not even in beta yet....so none of us really know. I am sure that there is a significant amount of debugging loaded in the current Win 8 dev preview.
That being said, you mentioned old hardware. In that case I believe most responders are correct: debian/linux will likely run faster on that old hw.

I run win7 (re-installed win7 ultimate to get rid of asus bloatware) and ubuntu 11.04 on my Asus G53SX-A1 in dual boot. This laptop packs new hardware.
My observations:
Ubuntu with all graphical enhancements runs faster, and boots significantly quicker than win7. The installation of ubuntu was also quicker than that of windows.
Ubuntu picked pretty much all the hardware and with a few tweaks I got all laptop features working (function keys and all). Overall installation of "ubuntu 11.04 + tweaks and a couple of drivers (new wireless driver and newest binary nvidia drv from PPA" was half that of Windows 7 ultimate + all the drivers from cd and website.
I recently also switched from ubuntu to debian 6.0.3 on my fujitsu e8210 laptop and noticed that debian runs faster and more stable than ubuntu.

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gaming performece on window8

i own dell inspiron 1545(not good for gaming).just installed window 8cp and noticed that all my games now runs much smoother then on win7.as it is latest build there is no need of installing latest driver as it is the part of installation.
here is the list of working games list.
1.call of duty mw1,2,3
2.medal of honor 2010
3.assassins's creed 1&2
4.pop the forgotten sand
many old games like gta,pop, tomb raider works great on even in max setting.
please reply with any lattest games working for you

BF 2, 2142
Freespace 2 (SCP)
AVP 1, 2
Doom 3
F1 2011
any Steam game inc the hl series, supreme commander series
honestly cant say its faster but one things for sure, its not slower and given all the debug code running still and the early state of the drivers its only going to get quicker!

Most of the online games
Most of the online games
Warcraft 3
World of Warcraft
There are some small game
I use when the normal operation of the system above win8

World of Warcraft,
Half-Life Series
World of Goo,
Most of the Chrome NaCL/WebGL games
Revenge of the Titans,
Garry's Mod (Although very slowly due to my Graphics Card being an Intel GMA3150 with it's Intel Atom N450 counterpart xD)

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i have played crysis on it and its awesome NO LAG!!!

Games requiring OpenGL need you to install your manufacturer's graphics drivers, Apparently the Microsoft Drivers for Windows 8 are shipping without OGL support now.

gourav343 said:
i own dell inspiron 1545(not good for gaming).just installed window 8cp and noticed that all my games now runs much smoother then on win7.as it is latest build there is no need of installing latest driver as it is the part of installation.
here is the list of working games list.
1.call of duty mw1,2,3
2.medal of honor 2010
3.assassins's creed 1&2
4.pop the forgotten sand
many old games like gta,pop, tomb raider works great on even in max setting.
please reply with any lattest games working for you
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It has a better/newer version if direct X. I have a gaming system and my games run smoother now.
Counter Strike GO (beta)
TF2
Deus Ex HR
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Will get even better
BF3
MW3
TF2
AC Brotherhood
Metro 2033
Dead Island
Works generally better on Windows 8 due to optimized drivers and use of less resources. Windows 7 was never really "good" at games, but obviously depends on the game...
And as mentioned its just in pre-beta, and therefore will most likely get better and better, hopefully!

well there is a lot of game that runs really smooth.
its because w8 use less resources .
here is the list :
Bf2,3, Cod4,5,6,7,8 , Gta4 Eflc, Homefront, Crysis1,WH,2 , Mafia2, Skyrim, MOH, NFS UG1,2,MW,Carbon,Shift1,2,Run, and many other games

MTA won't work in win8 CP But other games runs just fine

Thanks for those info's. It seems Windows 8 would be really great when it comes out. Gonna try those games.

I play only one game, and it works very well with Windows 8 CP: FIFA 12

Will the improvements of windows 8 be really noticable when you have a high-end computer?
I can imagine the difference being quit big on a old/cheap computer that doesn't have that many resources, but when your using high-end the recources needed to run windows 7 is just a fraction of the resources available.

Not Truly Evil said:
MTA won't work in win8 CP But other games runs just fine
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^ The only game I play

mathijs727 said:
Will the improvements of windows 8 be really noticable when you have a high-end computer?
I can imagine the difference being quit big on a old/cheap computer that doesn't have that many resources, but when your using high-end the recources needed to run windows 7 is just a fraction of the resources available.
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My laptop is i7 990x, 12gb ram, 560m nvidia 1.5gb card... and windows 8 makes it even smoother. I get random crashes on occasions from some drivers that i guess still need work, but all my games load alot faster with windows 8. Its alot more noticable.
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Dri94 said:
My laptop is i7 990x, 12gb ram, 560m nvidia 1.5gb card... and windows 8 makes it even smoother. I get random crashes on occasions from some drivers that i guess still need work, but all my games load alot faster with windows 8. Its alot more noticable.
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The drivers probably need a lot of work still. We are only in the previews right now lol.
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Any chance somebody compared it to Ubuntu? And come to think of it, I don't know how Ubuntu compares to Windows 7 for that matter! I'm thinking of having a dual OS setup, Windows 7 for work (since it never crashes) and one of either Windows 8 or Ubuntu for gaming (since Windows 7 requires alot of resources).

zedxda said:
Any chance somebody compared it to Ubuntu? And come to think of it, I don't know how Ubuntu compares to Windows 7 for that matter! I'm thinking of having a dual OS setup, Windows 7 for work (since it never crashes) and one of either Windows 8 or Ubuntu for gaming (since Windows 7 requires alot of resources).
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Gaming on Ubuntu is quite the hassle. I run steam through Ubuntu, but getting each game to work is a process. I'd stick to windows for gaming for now. More developers are porting to Linux, which is great, though. (Today's Humble Indie Bundle, for example)

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The drivers probably need a lot of work still. We are only in the previews right now lol.
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I know lol. Nvidia actually did good with updating theirs quickly. Most of my errors are with audio now, which could eidther be realtek or the nvidia hd manager. But its so rare that its not even a bother

Not Truly Evil said:
MTA won't work in win8 CP But other games runs just fine
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^ The only game I play
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MTA is working on windows 8.
There is alot of lagg when playing mta on windows 8 so if you are playing mta only you should stay with windows 7 for now.
Edit:i didnt tried mta on build 8400.i tried it on older windows 8, maybe lagg is gone.

When I tried installing Windows 8, I get a Black Screen and a Boot Error.

When I tried installing Windows 8 on an old piece of hardware (Dell Dimension 4600C, 512 Mb RAM, Pentium IIII Processor, Windows XP), It seemed to install right. When it booted, I was greeted with a black screen that said something like:
Boot Error
Something went wrong... (Yada yada, restart, blah blah...)
File: NDIS.SYS
Error: 0xc0000221
Does anyone know what causes this? I've installed windows 8 on several computers with success, so I'm not sure what's wrong.

Pentium III? Maybe that's why
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It's a Pentium 4, actually. And it's much better than my Netbook's Atom processor. I paid $20 for this desktop, so I'm trying to get some usability from it. I'll probably pour about $30 into some more RAM. Until Christmas, I've got no computer to use, except for my Netbook. It can't even run Metro apps. The monitor has a 1024x768, so I can run Metro on it. I'd hook the monitor up to my netbook, but every time I do that, metro apps make my netbook crash. I'm used to low performance machines (My previous laptop was a Compaq Presario V5000- It had 2Gb RAM max, a 1.46 Ghz Processor, and ran Windows 8 fine. My netbook has an Atom 1.6Ghz, and 1Gb of Ram. For Xmas, I'm getting a Sony Vaio, 8Gb RAM, 2Gb Graphics card, 750Gb HDD- It'll be like I'm in heaven, never had something so good... I'm done ranting now...) But I'm just curious as to why this happens. I've tried installing it twice, to no avail.

Oh sorry. When I saw the Is I thought it was 3 because 4 was never named that way. Anyways I don't think the Pentium 4 had NX (and PAE depending on the model), both of which are required for Windows 8. Didn't the upgrade advisor tell you?
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Nope. I've tried to install it twice, and both times it has worked... Until the boot, of course.

Hardware is just too old, you need to upgrade, RAM and processor...then it should work!
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Nope. I've tried to install it twice, and both times it has worked... Until the boot, of course.
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The installer runs on older hardware, the actual OS needs much more powerful hardware.

Ah, okay. Then I might try to find new uses for the hardware. That'd be $100, probably... At the cheapest. I'm already getting a new laptop, and I'm building a PC for senior project... so that's not going to happen. Thanks, though!

Are maybe that copy you downloaded is ****ed
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Perhaps your processor doesn't support PAE or it's not enabled in your BIOS.

Ram too less......processor ok.
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Its a combination of not enough ram and unsupported chip. I don't think it will even run metro with only half a gig of ram
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I'm agreeing with everyone else, if you want a more up to date useable system then I'd try putting some form of Linux on there
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