What would be fast on a old dell with 1.oghz
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What would be fast on a old dell with 1.oghz
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I'm pretty sure Debian would run way faster than Windows 8 on your Dell. My old Toshiba Satellite is running Ubuntu 11.10 way faster than it did Windows Vista.
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What would be fast on a old dell with 1.oghz
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of course debian or at least just run windows 7 windows 8 is not PC friendly as much as windows 7 its a dev preview not even a beta yet so its not even worth keeping as a daily OS because march will come around and then youll need to install the beta
im not gonna be one of those ass holes and say its the wrong section lol but yeah dude watch out lucky this aint the android forum
atadres said:
of course debian or at least just run windows 7 windows 8 is not PC friendly as much as windows 7 its a dev preview not even a beta yet so its not even worth keeping as a daily OS because march will come around and then youll need to install the beta
im not gonna be one of those ass holes and say its the wrong section lol but yeah dude watch out lucky this aint the android forum
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Yeah, thanks for not completely burning me but I use Windows 8 as my daily OS and even though I mostly post on the Android forums, I think I have some rights to post here right?
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Windows will never be faster than linux, especially on slower/older computers!
When it comes to net books.
I've found that
Linux is faster than windows 7 32 bit. 64 bit windows is terrible to run.
Windows 8 64 bit runs great almost as good as Ubuntu.
Both the net books I've installed this on are atom based and have maxed memory.
windows 8 is much lighter and quicker than the older versions of windows but i think linux still takes the cake this round but it is still just a dev preview that we are seeing now.
Windows V Linux
There is a lot of populous opinion being regurgitated here. I have to agree though that on older hardware Linux has a better chance of performing well but just like any OS if you want it to feel snappy you wont be able to load it with all of the bells and whistles that a new machine will support.
Beyond that I've done some evaluations between Windows and Linux, Ubuntu specifically. Using a couple of models of laptop ranging from 1-3 years old Windows 7 booted faster and consistently ran better/faster than the same pc on linux. We ran the test as side by side comparisons then switch OS's and reran the test.
These were all default installs with only drivers or applications being tested added where necessary.
Overall Windows required fewer clicks and less time to perform the tasks being tested. The only area where Ubuntu was a clear winner wan in a simpler install and setup process than windows. After that it either tied or lost to windows.
We didn't include cost or time to train in our evaluation.
Lacedaemon said:
I'm pretty sure Debian would run way faster than Windows 8 on your Dell. My old Toshiba Satellite is running Ubuntu 11.10 way faster than it did Windows Vista.
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Well yeah, vista is the worst system hog Microsoft has ever released.
Windows 8 supposedly is the lightest Os Microsoft has released in a long time. I've seen it work better on some computers than XP. Just my 2ยข
Lacedaemon said:
I'm pretty sure Debian would run way faster than Windows 8 on your Dell. My old Toshiba Satellite is running Ubuntu 11.10 way faster than it did Windows Vista.
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Well, Windows Vista was a hot mess, so I don't think that's a good metric
I've found that Windows 7 (and perhaps Windows 8, but it won't slim down enough to fit on my netbook) was much better at handling disk IO than Ubuntu. This was particularly important for my netbook, which has a very cheap 4gb SSD that locks up on writing. Windows XP and Ubuntu were about the same on this problem, Windows 7 seemed to understand that it needed no access time and a few other tweaks, and handled that right out of the box.
In your case, though, given the processor, I'd say Debian would probably run faster. If you want to do some anecdotal benchmarks, though, I'd be curious to see them.
Not really a fair question yet, as Win 8 is not even in beta yet....so none of us really know. I am sure that there is a significant amount of debugging loaded in the current Win 8 dev preview.
That being said, you mentioned old hardware. In that case I believe most responders are correct: debian/linux will likely run faster on that old hw.
I run win7 (re-installed win7 ultimate to get rid of asus bloatware) and ubuntu 11.04 on my Asus G53SX-A1 in dual boot. This laptop packs new hardware.
My observations:
Ubuntu with all graphical enhancements runs faster, and boots significantly quicker than win7. The installation of ubuntu was also quicker than that of windows.
Ubuntu picked pretty much all the hardware and with a few tweaks I got all laptop features working (function keys and all). Overall installation of "ubuntu 11.04 + tweaks and a couple of drivers (new wireless driver and newest binary nvidia drv from PPA" was half that of Windows 7 ultimate + all the drivers from cd and website.
I recently also switched from ubuntu to debian 6.0.3 on my fujitsu e8210 laptop and noticed that debian runs faster and more stable than ubuntu.
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Hello,
I've owed an x10 and SGS-II.
Windows 8 ARM hasn't been released as of now but is someone planning to port it to SGS-II?
The reason I ask is because it looks very nice & would love to see something different on SGS-II
This is just a discussion any constructive comments are welcome.
as a pure development project it might be fun to do such
but as a daily driver OS, Win8 is definitely a no go
maybe will see win8 in our sgs III with 2ghz quad core
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maybe will see win8 in our sgs III with 2ghz quad core
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i agree
as Win8 is basically = Win7 + Windows Mobile 7 Launcher + ARM CPU support
so that is basicaly a super beefup version of Win7, which translates into very heavy hardware requirement for it to run properly
basically you need a laptop the size of a phone, for it to run
Haven't people been able to "run" it with ancient Pentiums and 128 MB ram?
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i agree
as Win8 is basically = Win7 + Windows Mobile 7 Launcher + ARM CPU support
so that is basicaly a super beefup version of Win7, which translates into very heavy hardware requirement for it to run properly
basically you need a laptop the size of a phone, for it to run
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I've read that it has lower requirements. There are also some other changes(some of them also improvements like reduced boot time)
AllGamer said:
i agree
as Win8 is basically = Win7 + Windows Mobile 7 Launcher + ARM CPU support
so that is basicaly a super beefup version of Win7, which translates into very heavy hardware requirement for it to run properly
basically you need a laptop the size of a phone, for it to run
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I don't think so mate. The requirements for Windows 8 ARM is pretty low. Microsoft announced that it will run very smooth on tablets (they did a demo as well) and it requires pretty low resources (since windows 8 itself uses a Very low ram).
People at xperia x10 are looking forward to port it so I thought why not?
SGS-III? lol. I'd dream about it.
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I don't think so mate. The requirements for Windows 8 ARM is pretty low. Microsoft announced that it will run very smooth on tablets (they did a demo as well) and it requires pretty low resources (since windows 8 itself uses a Very low ram).
People at xperia x10 are looking forward to port it so I thought why not?
SGS-III? lol. I'd dream about it.
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It works on my old desktop so our super fast dual core phone should take it easily
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+1 win 8 for sgsII is like child playing with toy... ARM version will req a very low hardware spec. Hoping too see it on this mean machine
Win8 ARM hardware drivers for the SGS2-specific hardware would need to be written from scratch, so don't hold your breath.
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Haven't people been able to "run" it with ancient Pentiums and 128 MB ram?
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Don't make the mistake of comparing mobile to desktop. MHZ/GHZ processor speeds don't mean jack when comparing between CPU/GPU architecture types.
Just because some spec somewhere says it's designed to be able to run on ARM processors and some or our phones use ARM processors, doesn't mean we are go for launch. We may not be comparing apples with oranges here, but we certainly are comparing tangerines with oranges. Some of these chips can be much bigger and power-hungrier than anything we see in the SGS2
kal-el can totally Handel it perfectly.
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I guess they will eventually merge WP7 and W8 for ARM, same thing that is about to happen to Android.
For now I am quite happy with Android on my phone, and if the Win32 pogramms wont work on a W8 tablet I see no point in getting one either. Android is growing like crazy (software and hardware), so I can not see a reason to abandon this platform (except maybe for MeeGo, incredible what the people did with the n900).
Although Tablet+VLC would make a hell of a mediaplayer....
Win phone 8 on SGSII
Reviving this thread...considering now much is known about the platform, is there a chance of a port on SGSII?
i think we will see some tryout ports coming very soon.
ive run w8 on some really crappy machines, much more worse specs then s2.
however i think port is depending on the fact how many people will really want it and how many devs
are willing to do it..
whats the OS in nokia lumia 920 windows 8 or windows 7?
This probably isn't possible because I think windows phones are partitioned differently. Basically its gonna be difficult or nearly impossible.
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You guys do realize that the GSII is more than capable of running WP8? The Lumia 920 has a S4 dual core and handles it effortlessly, the GSII would be able to handle it aswell since the Exynos 4210 is still very damn good.
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You guys do realize that the GSII is more than capable of running WP8? The Lumia 920 has a S4 dual core and handles it effortlessly, the GSII would be able to handle it aswell since the Exynos 4210 is still very damn good.
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It's not the matter of hardware. There are many other things to consider too. Already we have problems with CM10. WP8 just spells more trouble.
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It's not the matter of hardware. There are many other things to consider too. Already we have problems with CM10. WP8 just spells more trouble.
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I know, as everyone was just talking about hw, I gave my opinion I'm not even going to talk about the complications with porting the kernel, drivers, gpu drivers, adapting thethe mali to a whole new os, surfaceflinger, hwcomposer and so much more...
i own dell inspiron 1545(not good for gaming).just installed window 8cp and noticed that all my games now runs much smoother then on win7.as it is latest build there is no need of installing latest driver as it is the part of installation.
here is the list of working games list.
1.call of duty mw1,2,3
2.medal of honor 2010
3.assassins's creed 1&2
4.pop the forgotten sand
many old games like gta,pop, tomb raider works great on even in max setting.
please reply with any lattest games working for you
BF 2, 2142
Freespace 2 (SCP)
AVP 1, 2
Doom 3
F1 2011
any Steam game inc the hl series, supreme commander series
honestly cant say its faster but one things for sure, its not slower and given all the debug code running still and the early state of the drivers its only going to get quicker!
Most of the online games
Most of the online games
Warcraft 3
World of Warcraft
There are some small game
I use when the normal operation of the system above win8
World of Warcraft,
Half-Life Series
World of Goo,
Most of the Chrome NaCL/WebGL games
Revenge of the Titans,
Garry's Mod (Although very slowly due to my Graphics Card being an Intel GMA3150 with it's Intel Atom N450 counterpart xD)
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i have played crysis on it and its awesome NO LAG!!!
Games requiring OpenGL need you to install your manufacturer's graphics drivers, Apparently the Microsoft Drivers for Windows 8 are shipping without OGL support now.
gourav343 said:
i own dell inspiron 1545(not good for gaming).just installed window 8cp and noticed that all my games now runs much smoother then on win7.as it is latest build there is no need of installing latest driver as it is the part of installation.
here is the list of working games list.
1.call of duty mw1,2,3
2.medal of honor 2010
3.assassins's creed 1&2
4.pop the forgotten sand
many old games like gta,pop, tomb raider works great on even in max setting.
please reply with any lattest games working for you
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It has a better/newer version if direct X. I have a gaming system and my games run smoother now.
Counter Strike GO (beta)
TF2
Deus Ex HR
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Will get even better
BF3
MW3
TF2
AC Brotherhood
Metro 2033
Dead Island
Works generally better on Windows 8 due to optimized drivers and use of less resources. Windows 7 was never really "good" at games, but obviously depends on the game...
And as mentioned its just in pre-beta, and therefore will most likely get better and better, hopefully!
well there is a lot of game that runs really smooth.
its because w8 use less resources .
here is the list :
Bf2,3, Cod4,5,6,7,8 , Gta4 Eflc, Homefront, Crysis1,WH,2 , Mafia2, Skyrim, MOH, NFS UG1,2,MW,Carbon,Shift1,2,Run, and many other games
MTA won't work in win8 CP But other games runs just fine
Thanks for those info's. It seems Windows 8 would be really great when it comes out. Gonna try those games.
I play only one game, and it works very well with Windows 8 CP: FIFA 12
Will the improvements of windows 8 be really noticable when you have a high-end computer?
I can imagine the difference being quit big on a old/cheap computer that doesn't have that many resources, but when your using high-end the recources needed to run windows 7 is just a fraction of the resources available.
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MTA won't work in win8 CP But other games runs just fine
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^ The only game I play
mathijs727 said:
Will the improvements of windows 8 be really noticable when you have a high-end computer?
I can imagine the difference being quit big on a old/cheap computer that doesn't have that many resources, but when your using high-end the recources needed to run windows 7 is just a fraction of the resources available.
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My laptop is i7 990x, 12gb ram, 560m nvidia 1.5gb card... and windows 8 makes it even smoother. I get random crashes on occasions from some drivers that i guess still need work, but all my games load alot faster with windows 8. Its alot more noticable.
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My laptop is i7 990x, 12gb ram, 560m nvidia 1.5gb card... and windows 8 makes it even smoother. I get random crashes on occasions from some drivers that i guess still need work, but all my games load alot faster with windows 8. Its alot more noticable.
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The drivers probably need a lot of work still. We are only in the previews right now lol.
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Any chance somebody compared it to Ubuntu? And come to think of it, I don't know how Ubuntu compares to Windows 7 for that matter! I'm thinking of having a dual OS setup, Windows 7 for work (since it never crashes) and one of either Windows 8 or Ubuntu for gaming (since Windows 7 requires alot of resources).
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Any chance somebody compared it to Ubuntu? And come to think of it, I don't know how Ubuntu compares to Windows 7 for that matter! I'm thinking of having a dual OS setup, Windows 7 for work (since it never crashes) and one of either Windows 8 or Ubuntu for gaming (since Windows 7 requires alot of resources).
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Gaming on Ubuntu is quite the hassle. I run steam through Ubuntu, but getting each game to work is a process. I'd stick to windows for gaming for now. More developers are porting to Linux, which is great, though. (Today's Humble Indie Bundle, for example)
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The drivers probably need a lot of work still. We are only in the previews right now lol.
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I know lol. Nvidia actually did good with updating theirs quickly. Most of my errors are with audio now, which could eidther be realtek or the nvidia hd manager. But its so rare that its not even a bother
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MTA won't work in win8 CP But other games runs just fine
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^ The only game I play
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MTA is working on windows 8.
There is alot of lagg when playing mta on windows 8 so if you are playing mta only you should stay with windows 7 for now.
Edit:i didnt tried mta on build 8400.i tried it on older windows 8, maybe lagg is gone.
What OS do you use? Windows or a linux distro? Also which desktop environment do you use? Tell here
Please keep it clean so it doesn't get closed, thanks !
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80% Linux, Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome
I still need Windows for all my Adobe programs and gaming
Ubuntu 10.04 for Android, and App development.
Windows for graphics, gaming, and everything else.
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99.9% Linux, Ubuntu 12.04
I still use windows to... hmmm.... aahhhhh..... to get a blue screen or a virus I guess!!!
i like the percentage idea.
100% windows 7 for work. windows 7 is awesome
home:
10% ubuntu 12.04 for TommyTomato's android utility
90% windows vista for guitar processing
I have a triple boot that runs Ubuntu 12, OSX 10.6 and Windows 7
I use Linux 90% of the time, Windows and OSX hardly at all.
Once I get a new external to move all my storage too, (Files, music, vids, etc), I'm gonna up to a triple boot with Mac OSX and use that for Graphics/Multimedia, dropping my windows use to only gaming
100% freshly installed ( week or so ) Ubuntu 12.04
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Savoca said:
Ubuntu 10.04 for Android, and App development.
Windows for graphics, gaming, and everything else.
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HipKat said:
Once I get a new external to move all my storage too, (Files, music, vids, etc), I'm gonna up to a triple boot with Mac OSX and use that for Graphics/Multimedia, dropping my windows use to only gaming
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That's awesome.
Depending on the machine you run it may be more practical to host Virtual Machines so unlike me you could launch into any OS without rebooting.
The only reason I run a triple boot is because it's off a netbook with a 1.6 Ghz Atom processor and 1.5 Gigs of RAM making most VMs very laggy.
It's cool don't get me wrong, but I think it would be cooler to be able to have all 3 VMs running simultaneously on 3 different screens from the same machine.
Haha yeah it would! I run linux mint kde on my netbook. 1.6 GHz, 2 gigs ram.
Runs nice, I like the looks of kde. Never liked unity. I still need to use windows for things like Photoshop though.
I like linux better, just runs alit smoother and faster on my netbook than windows
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My net book lags to much to run Linux :/ 1.6ghz single core 1 GB of RAM is just pitiful
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9h0s7 said:
That's awesome.
Depending on the machine you run it may be more practical to host Virtual Machines so unlike me you could launch into any OS without rebooting.
The only reason I run a triple boot is because it's off a netbook with a 1.6 Ghz Atom processor and 1.5 Gigs of RAM making most VMs very laggy.
It's cool don't get me wrong, but I think it would be cooler to be able to have all 3 running simultaneously on 3 different screens from the same machine.
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Yes!! Thatd be freaking sick
Desktop:
20% ubuntu 12.04 (unity) just because i like to mess around in it.
80% Windows, use it for everything haha and plus this is on a 1tb drive and ubuntu is on a separate 120gb laptop drive.
Laptop
100% ubuntu 12.04 (unity) because its kinda a heap and windows 7 runs not very great.
Home - 60% OS X, 39% Linux Mint/Ubuntu 12.04, 1% Windows
Work - almost 100% Windows
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Haha yeah it would! I run linux mint kde on my netbook. 1.6 GHz, 2 gigs ram.
Runs nice, I like the looks of kde. Never liked unity. I still need to use windows for things like Photoshop though.
I like linux better, just runs alit smoother and faster on my netbook than windows
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Say you were to run the Virtual Machines through Linux and had Compiz running with the Desktop Cube, you could have each OS on their own workspace and scroll through them with a mouse wheel. If you only had one screen, instead of 3 that would be pretty cool too.
The more modern KDE enviroments are much better than their predecessors but I still like Gnome 2. You're right Unity is absolute garbage, lol.
I still have a couple reasons for running 7 from time to time but in most cases Wine is good enough for me.
I do wish I could get the same battery life in Linux as I do in Windows. By running Linux I cut about 3 hours off a 10 hour battery.
@evo4Gnoob :beer: Some distros are very lightweight. Puppy, Damn Small Linux and Arch are a few examples.
Eeebuntu was actually designed for netbooks.
I've never really played with VM's much, oddly enough, since I do everything else, but yeah, running all 3 at once would be insanity
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I've never really played with VM's much, oddly enough, since I do everything else, but yeah, running all 3 at once would be insanity
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Plus, having a triple monitor setup would look cool in itself
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Plus, having a triple monitor setup would look cool in itself
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Hell yeah
Imagine if instead of 3 monitors there were 3 projectors aimed at 3 different walls so the whole room would be the battle station.
Each wall a different OS, now that's crazy talk.
I used to run 80% Ubuntu Linux most of the time, but I've since fallen away sadly. I run 100% Windows 7 on my main machine, my home media server is winxp, but my media center for my tv is XBMC and I love it I still play with Linux from time to time, and I keep the latest LTS around for just in case
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Is it possible to dualboot?
Thanks!
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Bit of research into what hardware android runs on and what hardware is in the iconia w700 would have taken 5 minutes and returned a definite yes.
Android on x86 (with exception of clover trail) has always been possible. Thats alright as the core i3 and i5 CPU's available in the w700 are x86 CPU's.
Android is no different from any other OS so dual booting android and windows wont be any different from linux and windows.
Now, to actually run android on normal x86 hardware there are 2 major projects available.
The first is android-x86. http://www.android-x86.org/ It works alright for most systems. Its commonly used on laptops and desktops but works across just about any x86 computer.
The second (and the one I recommend in this case) is Android-IA. Also known as "Android On Intel Architecture". This is a project run by intel themselves to have android running on intel core i3 and i5 systems. https://01.org/android-ia/
I've an Acer Iconia W700 and I've tried android-x86 in "Live Mode" and into a Virtual Machine.
I don't like very muche Virtual Machine mode because it's very slow and because the touch experience is compromised. All touches are in fact replaced with the related movement of mouse arrow and it's very different.
Live Mode is better but it runs slow too.
I would like to have a dualboot with something like THIS or better.
Any help is appreciated.
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I've an Acer Iconia W700 and I've tried android-x86 in "Live Mode" and into a Virtual Machine.
I don't like very muche Virtual Machine mode because it's very slow and because the touch experience is compromised. All touches are in fact replaced with the related movement of mouse arrow and it's very different.
Live Mode is better but it runs slow too.
I would like to have a dualboot with something like THIS or better.
Any help is appreciated.
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it states very clearly in that video that it is using android-x86
Ask him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lvdUjNQkD0 how he did it
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Hi,
Is there any chance of dualbooting Dell Venue 8 Pro with Windows 8 and Android? I like Windows 8 but would also like to be able to use Android on this awesome tablet.
If not dual boot, is there any other way of using Android as virtual machine or something that provides full touch and other sensor's support?
Thanks.
Don't "think" Android. Think Linux instead. It theoretically can be done, but the fact that the UEFI is 32bit while Linux uses 64bit.
You would disable Secure Boot in the BIOS. The other issue is a lack of drivers for the touchscreen during installation.
The stress isn't worth it in my opinion. Leave the device stock as is.
I'm waiting for my Venue to arrive. I plan to try running Android on it with Genymotion
http://www.genymotion.com/
Not worth it
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I'm waiting for my Venue to arrive. I plan to try running Android on it with Genymotion
http://www.genymotion.com/
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I'm downloading it now since it is just an emulator running inside VirtualBox.
There are many Android games, that I've already boght and would want to be able to play on the Venue8 Pro. I'll let you know how it works out in a few hours.
EDIT: I've installed and ran the application. As it stated, it is really just an emulator VirtualBox running a stripped down Android image.
Enabling my real cam with the emulator gave me my first BSOD. Installed a few premium games that I had purchased on my real device. The frame rate in the virtual environment wasn't smooth. It was obvious that you were using an emulator. Genymotion is a very good attempt at emulating Andriod on a running PC, however this solution is not for me. It isn't a replacement for a dual-boot scenario with the native OS.
So what would you guys recommend? I have tried both BlueStacks player and an Android virual machine on my Venue 8 Pro. I really want to be running Android smoothly.
To be honest, Genymotion, is smoother than Bluestacks, since it has the Vanilla Android interface (without Samsung's Touchwiz or HTC's Sense). The problem is with trying to use the tablet's hardware such as the camera or gyroscope. The process is then not smooth and gameplay (for serious graphic intensive android games) are choppy or lagging at best. You get the feeling that it is all being emulated and not virtualized in the true sense.
I'm convinced you would have better success running Linux natively then finding a method of running Android apps as opposed to running Android on the device.
Android requires an ARM SoC processor. The Venue 8 Pro uses a full X86/64-bit processor. Therefore Android would need to be re-compiled. This isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
I'm wondering if these instructions will work for the Venue. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321292
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It looks plausible. I'd create a system image of my entire system partiotion before even attempting this.
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To be honest, Genymotion, is smoother than Bluestacks, since it has the Vanilla Android interface (without Samsung's Touchwiz or HTC's Sense). The problem is with trying to use the tablet's hardware such as the camera or gyroscope. The process is then not smooth and gameplay (for serious graphic intensive android games) are choppy or lagging at best. You get the feeling that it is all being emulated and not virtualized in the true sense.
I'm convinced you would have better success running Linux natively then finding a method of running Android apps as opposed to running Android on the device.
Android requires an ARM SoC processor. The Venue 8 Pro uses a full X86/64-bit processor. Therefore Android would need to be re-compiled. This isn't worth the effort in my opinion.
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But isn't install Linux also difficult (given the UEFI problems)? And will I be able to run Android apps smoothly on Linux somehow?
Linux to me would be easier since it already "exists" for PC. You should be able to install it in theory with a USB mouse and keyboard attached to a USB hub. Android on the other hand would simply not work "natively" with your Dell Venue 8 since it would have to be re-compiled for this purpose. I can't imagine why the source code for an Android app can't be re-compiled for Linux despite the differences in processor type.
My only desire for Android on my Tablet is to be able to play all those games that I've bought for my Samsung Galaxy Note2,
If I knew how to compile Android from source code and simply slipstream the touchscreen drivers that would be great. Let's agree to propose this to the developers in the phone section of this forum such as Cyanogem Mod so that something can be custom built for our devices.
Contrary to the above poster. There is no issue with android across architectures.
Android apps are compiled to dalvik bytecode and run within the dalvik virtual machine. Its platform independent. x86 builds of android exist. There are x86 android devices on shelves, there is android-x86 and there is android-ia. Android is also available on MIPS processors. Community ports to PowerPC have been done. As long as you have a dalvik virtual machine you can run the dalvik bytecode, problem solved.
The driver issue is a big one. x86 operating systems dont have the issue of having to target different devices. But there arent touchscreen, wifi, bluetooth or sensor drivers for all combinations of hardware out there. The asus w700 seems to be the device best off in that regard.
Theoretically it could be done for the venue though. Without those drivers though it will be unusably slow (software drawn screen etc) and interaction wouldnt be possible without external USB.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
x86 builds of android exist.
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Thanks for letting me know.
Has anyone given this a go with the Venue Pro 8 yet? The IA (Intel architecture) android project seems quite mature. You could try booting from an SD card?
CL0SeY said:
Has anyone given this a go with the Venue Pro 8 yet? The IA (Intel architecture) android project seems quite mature. You could try booting from an SD card?
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I was thinking of trying that but was too afraid to run into a problem that would ruin my new tablet.
Atom x86 phones and tablets use libhoudini to be able to run arm apps, so android dual boot is theoretically possible
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xueyao said:
Atom x86 phones and tablets use libhoudini to be able to run arm apps, so android dual boot is theoretically possible
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thats a different problem and solution entirely
CL0SeY said:
Has anyone given this a go with the Venue Pro 8 yet? The IA (Intel architecture) android project seems quite mature. You could try booting from an SD card?
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From what I've read, booting from an SD card is not an possible. That's what has stopped me from trying this. I'm not interested in resizing my C drive
In theory, it sounds like the Acer instructions should work on the Dell, but once you're in Android, there may be some driver issues.
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A_Str8 said:
From what I've read, booting from an SD card is not an possible. That's what has stopped me from trying this. I'm not interested in resizing my C drive
In theory, it sounds like the Acer instructions should work on the Dell, but once you're in Android, there may be some driver issues.
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I am planning to give this a try if it this doesn't break my Venue 8 Pro. Will it break it?
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I am planning to give this a try if it this doesn't break my Venue 8 Pro. Will it break it?
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There is never any guarantee of not breaking a device! Perhaps starting with a USB OTG cable and booting the USB might be a first step - without installing to the device... that is if that is possible. I know it worked on my x86-64bit laptop, but the Venue Pro 8 is 32 bit apparently?
Anyway I don't have a Venue Pro 8 of my own... perhaps there is a guide somewhere on taking a full backup of your SSD in the device (or a similar device), including all the partitions etc?
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There is never any guarantee of not breaking a device! Perhaps starting with a USB OTG cable and booting the USB might be a first step - without installing to the device... that is if that is possible. I know it worked on my x86-64bit laptop, but the Venue Pro 8 is 32 bit apparently?
Anyway I don't have a Venue Pro 8 of my own... perhaps there is a guide somewhere on taking a full backup of your SSD in the device (or a similar device), including all the partitions etc?
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I about to take the plunge very soon. I just completed the usb part of the tut. I am gonna use the IA3 file. I guess Ill see what happens soon. I already took the time to offload my backup on a usb, initially to make more space since I got the 16gig which really left me with only 6-8 gb. Taking out the recovery partition made about 3.45 gb free from the tab.
I already disabled "Secure Boot"
After doing this and restarting this you will run into the problem about the bitlocker and needing to type in your bitlocker code from MS again. You could bypass and disable this by hitting disable bitlocker. But for the concern it will come up. I plan on making a thread for this and be the pioneer guy.
So yeah kinda scared to start it as I got this when MS store had there $99 deal.... waited for 8 hours till i got mine and hate to break it....