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Moto X models comparison

The attached table summarizes the specs of different models. I think this should be sticky

amarguli said:
The attached table summarizes the specs of different models. I think this should be sticky
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Thank you for the summary. I was trying to find a clear answer on this all over and this is the only place ive seen it sumarized. Im looking to get a moto x for tmobile, but I wanted to make sure that it had 1700 HSDPA. It seems only the dev model and the t mobile version do.

Thanks for posting this. I am quite sure the Rogers version supports the exact same LTE bands as AT&T. I know for certain it supports band 4 as that is what I'm using mine with.

I found this info in Rogers website. Is it a mistake?

amarguli said:
I found this info in Rogers website. Is it a mistake?
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I don't think its a mistake, its just that Rogers only lists the bands they actually use, not the bands the phone supports. I'm surprised they claim LTE band 7. While Rogers uses it the FCC data for the phone doesn't list any approval for band 7 that I can find.(yes Rogers is in Canada but our approvals generally follow the FCC info)
I figure that the way Motorola differentiates between the bands supported would be the model number, such as XT-1058.
This is why your table is so valuable, the info is very hard to find. I'm not using my Rogers Moto X with Rogers, just like many others want to buy a Moto X for another provider so if you can get the info bang on it will help many people.
edit - did more research and I'm very confident the Rogers Moto X supports LTE bands 2,4,5,17 - the same as AT&T's XT-1058 as the FCC ID on the Rogers phone is the same as AT&T and Motorola's own test reports list LTE bands 2,4,5, and 17.
edit #2 - I looked up the Canadian certification, there is no 2600 mhz in the Moto X.

Just talked to Rogers customer service. Here is their answer
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Just talked to Rogers customer service. Here is their answer
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That is great that Rogers thinks its a 2600mhz device, but it isn't. The iFixit tear down found no 2600 mhz hardware, the Industry Canada certification has no request for or approval given for 2600 mhz and the FCC certification has no request for or approval given for 2600 mhz.
So no matter what Rogers says, there isn't 2600 mhz support in the XT-1058.
The only way its possible is if Motorola put different hardware into a phone with the same XT-1058 model number(not gonna happen) and if they didn't bother to tell Industry Canada or the FCC that it was present, in which case they will be a in a lot of trouble very soon.

Steve-x said:
That is great that Rogers thinks its a 2600mhz device, but it isn't. The iFixit tear down found no 2600 mhz hardware, the Industry Canada certification has no request for or approval given for 2600 mhz and the FCC certification has no request for or approval given for 2600 mhz.
So no matter what Rogers says, there isn't 2600 mhz support in the XT-1058.
The only way its possible is if Motorola put different hardware into a phone with the same XT-1058 model number(not gonna happen) and if they didn't bother to tell Industry Canada or the FCC that it was present, in which case they will be a in a lot of trouble very soon.
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I dont know why Moto make so hard to find the LTE bands Moto X supports. But I have a XT1058 that I bought in Brazil and use in LTE band 7 (2600 mhz) . This same model is for sale in Claro Chile that uses LTE band 7 also. My phone is assembled in Brazil but it has FCC ID IHDT56PA1 Type M0DD7.I don't believe Moto uses a different hardware with the same model name.

The model info is available on the Wikipedia Moto X page. It clearly states which model is capable of which frequency/band there.

rds_sp,
Can you please post a screenshot of system info that clearly shows LTE B7?

amarguli said:
rds_sp,
Can you please post a screenshot of system info that clearly shows LTE B7?
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OK, I finally found information from the FCC that confirms the XT1058 does in fact have 2600 Mhz Band 7 LTE. However it is not approved for use in the US. The normal AT&T firmware has the band disabled, however someone has confirmed that the AT&T 4.4 leak has it enabled(Likely an error).
The Rogers XT1058 should have band 7 enabled in firmware however LTE band 17 is disabled.(700 mhz)
The IC (Industry Canada) certification is all messed up and doesn't indicate the proper bands the phone supports.

One correction...I don't think Sprint has a 32GB version.

Steve-x said:
OK, I finally found information from the FCC that confirms the XT1058 does in fact have 2600 Mhz Band 7 LTE. However it is not approved for use in the US. The normal AT&T firmware has the band disabled, however someone has confirmed that the AT&T 4.4 leak has it enabled(Likely an error).
The Rogers XT1058 should have band 7 enabled in firmware however LTE band 17 is disabled.(700 mhz)
The IC (Industry Canada) certification is all messed up and doesn't indicate the proper bands the phone supports.
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Very interesting. Looking to pick one of these up from rogers and use it on telus. Wondering if Telus has band 7 lte 2600Mhz. Or is that JUST rogers? Im hearing that buying from rogers and sim unlocking will only get hspa+ on Telus. Anyone confirm or have a clear answer on that?

TITANote2LTE said:
Very interesting. Looking to pick one of these up from rogers and use it on telus. Wondering if Telus has band 7 lte 2600Mhz. Or is that JUST rogers? Im hearing that buying from rogers and sim unlocking will only get hspa+ on Telus. Anyone confirm or have a clear answer on that?
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Telus does not have any band 7 LTE, however they do have band 4 LTE (AWS band) and it works great with a Rogers/Fido Moto X that has been unlocked(8 bucks). I have two in front me to prove it works!

Steve-x said:
Telus does not have any band 7 LTE, however they do have band 4 LTE (AWS band) and it works great with a Rogers/Fido Moto X that has been unlocked(8 bucks). I have two in front me to prove it works!
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Excellent! thanks for the quick reply and pretty much sums that up. Unlocking is $8 for me as well ha. Was just making sure LTE would still work on Telus. Thanks again

TITANote2LTE said:
Very interesting. Looking to pick one of these up from rogers and use it on telus. Wondering if Telus has band 7 lte 2600Mhz. Or is that JUST rogers? Im hearing that buying from rogers and sim unlocking will only get hspa+ on Telus. Anyone confirm or have a clear answer on that?
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I understand that rogers has band 4, 7 & 10 for LTE, I'm running the at&t 4.4 firmware on my rogers moto. I'll confirm if I do receive LTE with speed test
Confirmed LTE works download speed 58 MB/s.
As for telus, I can't tell but I do see chatr as available under mobile networks same for bell and telus
Sent on my Moto X

amarguli said:
rds_sp,
Can you please post a screenshot of system info that clearly shows LTE B7?
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I'm pretty sure the T-Mobile X is Sim unlockable
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VZW XT1060 is bands 4/13 not just 13. Basically it works on VZW LTE and T-Mobile and AT&T as well.
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VZW XT1060 is bands 4/13 not just 13. Basically it works on VZW LTE and T-Mobile and AT&T as well.
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I believe the Verizon Moto X can support band 4 but needs a software update to enable it. Has anyone tried putting a T-Mobile SIM in their Verizon X to see?
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landale said:
I believe the Verizon Moto X can support band 4 but needs a software update to enable it. Has anyone tried putting a T-Mobile SIM in their Verizon X to see?
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Yes
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SM-P605 LTE WHITE 32GB - Arrived Yesterday

I got it! Woooah baby this thing is nice! Feels like the best gsm device on the market to me. I grabbed it on ebay, $831 w/next day shipping. Wifi internet is fast. Tmobile gave me a sim and its registered on their network but they cant figure out how to get it connected yet, they have a trouble ticket out on it. Just trying to get the 200mb free for now. I have wifi tethering on my phone and 2.5gb for it at the moment.
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What does everyone think? Will there be a custom rom?
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Tmobile gave me a sim and its registered on their network but they cant figure out how to get it connected yet
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Assuming the N10.1-14 you purchased is the international version it'll never get LTE because the SM-605 doesn't support U.S. LTE bands.
You'll be able to use it on HSPA in T-Mobile's re-farmed markets that support the 3G 1900MHz band. It will work on AT&T because it supports all of their GSM bands.

Thanks!
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Assuming the N10.1-14 you purchased is the international version it'll never get LTE because the SM-605 doesn't support U.S. LTE bands.
You'll be able to use it on HSPA in T-Mobile's re-farmed markets that support the 3G 1900MHz band. It will work on AT&T because it supports all of their GSM bands.
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Thanks. Yeah, I was aware that I couldnt get 4g on tmob. Are you saying that I can get 4g on att? How fast will it be on tmob 3g 1900 that you're talking about?
Thanks! :good:

Apache0c said:
Thanks. Yeah, I was aware that I couldnt get 4g on tmob. Are you saying that I can get 4g on att? How fast will it be on tmob 3g 1900 that you're talking about?
Thanks! :good:
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I have a SM-601 and had a N-8000 before that - both on AT&T. If you want to use the phone and messaging features you need to have it added to your plan as a "phone" not a tablet. I have it on my AT&T plan as a non-Smartphone with unlimited data for $10 a month. AT&T doesn't recognize the IMEI since it's a foreign device. The 601/605 both support up to 42MB down on HSPA networks. T-Mobile uses dual-channel so you can get (theoretically) 42MB down on their network, AT&T's limited to 21MB. I typically get between 5-8MB down on AT&T which is considered high-normal. I think T-Mobile does better than that on HSPA. Neither the 601 or 605 support T-Mobile's 700MHz AWS band so the only way to get HSPA+ speeds is in markets they've re-farmed to 1900MHz. Your local T-Mobile office can tell you if your area has been re-farmed. The problem with 1900MHz is that it and other higher frequencies don't penetrate walls well so indoor reception can be challenging.
Good luck!
P.S. - AT&T and T-Mobile call their HSPA+ networks "4G." They aren't, they're considered 3G everywhere else in the world.

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I have a SM-601 and had a N-8000 before that - both on AT&T. If you want to use the phone and messaging features you need to have it added to your plan as a "phone" not a tablet. I have it on my AT&T plan as a non-Smartphone with unlimited data for $10 a month. AT&T doesn't recognize the IMEI since it's a foreign device. The 601/605 both support up to 42MB down on HSPA networks. T-Mobile uses dual-channel so you can get (theoretically) 42MB down on their network, AT&T's limited to 21MB. I typically get between 5-8MB down on AT&T which is considered high-normal. I think T-Mobile does better than that on HSPA. Neither the 601 or 605 support T-Mobile's 700MHz AWS band so the only way to get HSPA+ speeds is in markets they've re-farmed to 1900MHz. Your local T-Mobile office can tell you if your area has been re-farmed. The problem with 1900MHz is that it and other higher frequencies don't penetrate walls well so indoor reception can be challenging.
Good luck!
P.S. - AT&T and T-Mobile call their HSPA+ networks "4G." They aren't, they're considered 3G everywhere else in the world.
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Nice! Thanks! :good:

Connect to US service
Any status on connecting to T-Mobile or ATT? I'm thinking of going this same route.
Also, what plug does the charger have? I've heard these might be from a different region...
Thanks in advance!

marshwc said:
Any status on connecting to T-Mobile or ATT? I'm thinking of going this same route.
Also, what plug does the charger have? I've heard these might be from a different region...
Thanks in advance!
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There's no mystery. Either the P-SM601 or P-SM605 will get 3G on AT&T and on T-Mobile in markets they've re-farmed to 1900MHz. If you add either device to an AT&T Family Share plan it's now only $15 a month including unlimited voice and MMS since you're "bringing your own."

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There's no mystery. Either the P-SM601 or P-SM605 will get 3G on AT&T and on T-Mobile in markets they've re-farmed to 1900MHz. If you add either device to an AT&T Family Share plan it's now only $15 a month including unlimited voice and MMS since you're "bringing your own."
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Thanks for the confirmation. Our wireless account is on Sprint, so if I went this route it would be a new account, but I do have friends on T-Mobile so I might be able to join them.
According to the T-Mobile plans from a year ago, San Diego was supposed to be re-farmed this past year. I suppose it would be nice to know that was done, and that someone has been successful getting the device connected.
I'll probably wait until after CES to see if there are any new announcements.

[Q] SM-N910F

Does anyone know if the SM-N910F will get LTE service on AT&T in the United States?

I am looking for a definite answer as well from someone who has the F or the C. I would rather go with Internation if I am going to bring my own phone to AT&T

Has anyone seen/read any confirmation if a the N910F or N910U will work with the AT&T Network? I currently have the AT&T N910A and have only till the 25th to return it; phone cannot be rooted at this time and don't want to be stuck with it.
I'm reading conflicting reports saying the the N910U will work with AT&T, the N910C is exynos based and would like a Qualcom based version.

I ended up purchasing a SM-N910F. While it does work on the AT&T network I am getting 4G connectivity but no LTE indicator.

Phurious said:
I ended up purchasing a SM-N910F. While it does work on the AT&T network I am getting 4G connectivity but no LTE indicator.
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4G=LTE

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4G=LTE
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Not so sure . . .
My Galaxy Note 3:
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Not so sure . . .
My Galaxy Note 3:
And the SM-N910F from the same location:
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On your Note 4, can you go to mobile networks and change it to GSM only, then run another test and compare.
I think your Note 4 is running on HSPA+ only.

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Not so sure . . .
My Galaxy Note 3:
And the SM-N910F from the same location:
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Look at my speedtest in signature: the Vodafone one is on 4G
You've the -F- (European) version of the Note 4; maybe your Note 3 is operating on a different (faster) LTE/4G band that is not supported on your Note 4!

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Does anyone know if the SM-N910F will get LTE service on AT&T in the United States?
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I found this thread and was able to modify the frequency settings on my SM-N910F.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
Even though I still do not get a "4G LTE" icon in the status bar when I run LTE Discovery and SpeedTest the SM-N910F is matching my AT&T SM-N900A.

4G configuraciom
Phurious said:
I found this thread and was able to modify the frequency settings on my SM-N910F.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
Even though I still do not get a "4G LTE" icon in the status bar when I run LTE Discovery and SpeedTest the SM-N910F is matching my AT&T SM-N900A.
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Hola para poner la 4 G ES FASIL SI ES CLON CHINO PON *#*#9228*#*# Entras adentro y cambia a 4g

henklbr said:
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Sorry Bro, but 4G does not equal LTE. At least not in the US. A while back when 4G was an upcoming technology, carriers started pushing updates to the phones that made the phone display 4G even though it was actually running HSPA+ (3.5G). When LTE came out, the phones would still either display 4G or would display 4G LTE or just LTE. The only true way to tell if your phone is recognizing the LTE network is in your "About Device" Status screen under Mobile Network Type/State. That will tell you which network you are connected to, whether it be EDGE(2G), HSDPA(3G), HSPA+(3.5G/4G), or LTE(4G LTE).
AT&T is pretty tight lipped about their service. I have received many different answers depending on who you talk to at AT&T. The only thing I can suggest is to put the AT&T sim card it and make sure you have the APN configured correctly. The European model of the Note 4 actually has more LTE bands than the AT&T model. For quick reference, wikipedia states that AT&T in the US uses 2, 4, and 17.
Off of Samsung US for Note 4 AT&T:
SM-N910A - B2(1900) / B4(AWS) / B5(850) / B12(700) / B17(700)
Off of Samsung UK for Note 4 Europe Unlocked:
SM-N910F - B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B17(700), B20(800)
Interesting to note that the AT&T Note Edge has almost all the same LTE bands as the European Note 4.
Off of Samsung US for Note Edge AT&T:
SM-N915A - B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B17(700), B20(800)
So with that being said, just because it uses the same bands, doesn't mean that it will function properly on another carrier's network.
So, if you are having issues getting LTE, then you may be in an area that strictly uses Band 12 or there is a configuration issue somewhere. I would get with AT&T and hash out the configuration issue and AT&T will help you out if you bring an unlocked phone to their network. More often than not, it's an IMEI issue. Their IMEI to LTE database is very rigid and if I recall correctly only has the IMEIs for AT&T phones and no others. A bit closed minded in my opinion, but they won't change it.
Now, with all that being said, I want to make something perfectly clear. AT&T does not guarantee LTE service, even on their own phones. Though with the AT&T variation you will get LTE more often than the European variation. Doesn't seem like it would work that way, but that's why AT&T has their variation. It's been vetted by AT&T.

HTC M9+ on VZW 700 band LTE

Hey team, surely we can figure this out. I have an M8, rooted on VZW in the USA. I am going to buy an M9+ on amazon purely for fun. On PhoneArena, it specifies that it does recieve 700 band LTE, VZW's main LTE band. VZW owns the 700MHz Upper Block C (band 13) so I believe it will be compatible, just not with XLTE, which uses band 4 (1700MHz). Just looking for someone selling one or any tricks thanks!

Don't forget that Verizon is CDMA based while the M9+ is GSM only. Even if Verizon uses SIM cards for LTE & device might not work. Also note that LTE is only used for data, so even if it did work, you'll probably not get voice calls.

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Don't forget that Verizon is CDMA based while the M9+ is GSM only. Even if Verizon uses SIM cards for LTE & device might not work. Also note that LTE is only used for data, so even if it did work, you'll probably not get voice calls.
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Thanks! That's a great point as well. My speculation is that the VoLTE for Verizon, which utilizes the 700 band. So maybe VoLTE would still work. I'm sure an M9/M8 Sense 7 rom port could work.. Verizon also is CDMA dominant but supports international GSM. So my dinners are crossed. Comments? Questions?
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http://www.htc.com/sea/smartphones/htc-one-m9-plus/
4G LTE:
FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,28
TDD: Bands 38, 39, 40, 41
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Asian 700MHz band is different from the North American ones.

stephenju said:
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Asian 700MHz band is different from the North American ones.
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Of course, just wish there was a way to swap antennae/get a NA M9+ lol
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Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area:
I believe 4G is LTE. Weird thing is it didn't find AT&T 4G (Cricket is on AT&T). Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands they are.

stephenju said:
Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area:
I believe 4G is LTE. Weird thing is it didn't find AT&T 4G (Cricket is on AT&T). Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands are they.
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Oh really? F*ckin juicy.. Sane thing, my Nexus is unlocked and finds T-Mo, Sprint and VZW, no AT&T. So will it work?! (in theory)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401
It's sad i can't find the following directory in my M9+.
/sys/devices/virtual/android_usb/android0/f_diag
Maybe somebody have the enough knowledge to help dig the bands in MTK SoC.

stephenju said:
Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area:
I believe 4G is LTE. Weird thing is it didn't find AT&T 4G (Cricket is on AT&T). Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands they are.
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I have used the M9+ in DC on the Cricket network and I only get 3G. I think there are ways by which bands can be unlocked. I remember having a similar thing back when I was using the One X.
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stephenju said:
Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area:
I believe 4G is LTE. Weird thing is it didn't find AT&T 4G (Cricket is on AT&T). Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands they are.
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Band 4 AWS

stephenju said:
Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area..
Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands they are.
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Band 4 AWS
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By TW do you mean Taiwanese? I am assured this is an authentic Taiwanese HTC, I was checking on the Uh Oh Protection. Is the band 4 AWS correct? Is that the part of the 700 band that is shared by most LTE networks?
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Well, I pulled the trigger. After seeing your screenshots, I'm going with the M9+.
Just selling my M8 for ~$450.
denver.craigslist.org/mob/5174687185.html
Just bought this gold on silver baddie for ~$582!!
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Band 4 AWS is 1700/2100 not 700MHz.

droidBOOST said:
Well, I pulled the trigger. After seeing your screenshots, I'm going with the M9+.
Just sold my M8 for ~$470.
Just bough this gold on silver baddie for ~$582!!
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I would suggest that you cancel the order if you still can. Even if it does somehow support Vz 700 or AWS band, which I strongly doubt, you won't be able to make calls since Vz use CDMA for that. M9+ probably doesn't support VoLTE either so you end up with a 5.2 inch tablet at best.

stephenju said:
I would suggest that you cancel the order if you still can. Even if it does somehow support Vz 700 or AWS band, which I strongly doubt, you won't be able to make calls since Vz use CDMA for that. M9+ probably doesn't support VoLTE either so you end up with a 5.2 inch tablet at best.
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AWS should work. I route most my calling over Wi-Fi/data anyways. If calling doesn't work, I am going to use the Project Fi sim from my Nexus 6. I'm on Wi-Fi literally almost everywhere. I wonder if anyone has thought of flashing the M9 dialer over to the M9+. I've edited my scripts and got VoLTE to work for my HTC M8 with something similar. Any dev suggestions?
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Update
Got the M9+ today and it's stunning, of course. It's not surprising that it won't with Verizon, but it is a great phone. Still looking into Project Fi.
My VZW should allow you to connect to Verizon.. haha just the phone.
Will update with more info upon Fi-ing/root.
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droidBOOST said:
Update
Got the M9+ today and it's stunning, of course. It's not surprising that it won't with Verizon, but it is a great phone. Still looking into Project Fi.
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Is this with Vz SIM card?
Anyways, I don't think it works with any US LTE network. It probably picked up the 2100MHz downlink part of AWS in the network search. Since it lacks the 1700MHz uplink part, it can't really use it. You are better off switch to AT&T or TMO and use their 1900MHz 3G (HSDPA+, US carriers call it 4G) networks.

stephenju said:
Is this with Vz SIM card?
Anyways, I don't think it works with any US LTE network. It probably picked up the 2100MHz downlink part of AWS in the network search. Since it lacks the 1700MHz uplink part, it can't really use it. You are better off switch to AT&T or TMO and use their 1900MHz 3G (HSDPA+, US carriers call it 4G) networks.
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Its a Verizon sim out of my M8, currently active. I think it works on the LTE so it picks up the 4G network, but without the CDMA backbone it wont connect. Says it will work on any GSM network in the US, maybe flip it here in the states instead of selling it. Any root suggestions?
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LTE on AT&T

Anyone who purchased the unlocked version of this phone and who's carrier is AT&T, do you have consistent 4G coverage? I find my phone spends most of the time on H+. I contacted AT&T and had them provision it to allow connection to the LTE network and while at times it does connect in certain areas it does not connect as my wife's sg8 does. The speeds are also not as fast as she sees on her sg8. I feel like I have to conclude it does not support all of AT&T's bands. I wonder if this is hardware or software limited. Any thoughts?

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Anyone who purchased the unlocked version of this phone and who's carrier is AT&T, do you have consistent 4G coverage? I find my phone spends most of the time on H+. I contacted AT&T and had them provision it to allow connection to the LTE network and while at times it does connect in certain areas it does not connect as my wife's sg8 does. The speeds are also not as fast as she sees on her sg8. I feel like I have to conclude it does not support all of AT&T's bands. I wonder if this is hardware or software limited. Any thoughts?
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IDK if a software update can/would enable more band support,I sure hope so:
A call to ASUS is in order,to get then to specify exactly which LTE Bands are supported.
Reason I say this is because some other sites are listing the specs as full (or close to it) LTE Support for North American markets & for using my 8GB/128GB model on T-Mobile US ,this does not seem to be the case:
At my current location,I am getting only Band 2 LTE on T-Mobile,which is a fallback band,along with Band 12.
Band 4 is the predominate LTE Band for T-Mobile in virtually all markets they service (w/a few exceptions,where Band 12 is primary).
I should be pulling in Band 4 with no problem,I've reset network settings & this changes nothing,along with trying an alternative T-Mobile APN.
I'm able to connect to Band 2 LTE,UMTS,HSPA+,but AFAICT,no Band 4 support & from my best guess,;looking around @ ASUS,no Band 12 support either.
Not trying to hijack the thread & turn it into a T-Mobile LTE Thread,just letting you know AT&T apparently isn't the only network that is sparse in connectivity to this phone in North America.
If nothing else,a word of caution to those considering buying this phone,get the word directly from ASUS regarding LTE Connectivity with your service provider.
Chances are the support isn't as good as some other similarly priced global phones on the market.
I can live with just Band 2 LTE ,if coverage is strong in my town,I've yet to try it out in all surrounding areas.
If coverage is spotty,I'm boxing it back up & sending it back.
FWIW,here's a .PDF from ASUS listing the LTE Band support for the AR & a few other devices:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=...bility/ASUS_ZenFone_Network_Compatibility.pdf
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Anyone got ideas/input on how/if more bands can be turned on/etc... (if the hardware supports it),by all means,please jump in. :good:

Their seem to three vibrants
1) Verizon LTE band 2/4.
2) global LTE band 2.
3)north America LTE band 2/4/12.
How do tell the different between global and north America vibrants??
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