e.g. when pressing buttons
You mean haptic feedback. And yes I heard it did
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You mean haptic feedback. And yes I heard it did
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I heard it didn't.
Anyone who has definite knowledge, would be helpful :good:
Laptop Magazine says nope.
"We were disappointed to learn that the tablet does not offer haptic feedback, so there's no way to emulate the tactile feed of a physical keyboard."
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/tablets/google-nexus-7.aspx
^^^ he beat me but yeah there is not sadly it what i read
I would Like to know this as well. I was expecting it to have haptic feedback, but its not a deal breaker if it doesn't. Still, I feel like every time I read up on this tablet, people discover its missing another feature. I understand its 200 bucks, but is a vibration mechanism that big and expensive to include?
UberMudkipz said:
I would Like to know this as well. I was expecting it to have haptic feedback, but its not a deal breaker if it doesn't. Still, I feel like every time I read up on this tablet, people discover its missing another feature. I understand its 200 bucks, but is a vibration mechanism that big and expensive to include?
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I think that it would be more of a room issue than a cost issue. The vibrators are clunky.
Btw, free Thanks to you for the Pinkie pie
There is no haptic feedback, vibrate mode, etc.
Wow, no haptic feedback is surprising considering it's a common feature in games and google has been pushing it as a great gaming device.
Eh, haptic feedback isn't all that important to me. Even on my phone I don't feel the vibrate through my pocket. Don't use what use it is on a tablet.
Would still like that feature for gaming, typing, and of course the feel of those damn force closes coming.
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The vibrators are clunky.
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Obligatory, "that's what she said."
Couldn't they use the speaker as a source of feedback? There are two speakers so theoretically one could vibrate at a low frequency and the other could make a click sound.
I miss not having my keyboard vibrate when I'm typing. Makes me feel like I'm not hitting the buttons.
Nexus 7 is open. Sure . But it is nothing more than a glorified iTouch.
In fact, the iTouch has two cameras.
I am so angry that I bought the Nexus 7. I totally assumed this tablet that everyone was raving about had :
1) Haptic Touch / vibration
2) A rear facing camera.
3) NO MICROSD SLOT ?!?!?
In fact, the front facing camera is only lie 1.5mpx
I would have let it slide for a 5mpx front facing camera but 1.5mpx ?!?!?!?
I totally want to see this device eat dirt. I'm so angry I got totally ripped off.
1.5mpx?!?!?!? front facing only?!?!?!
again I repeat. NO MICROSD SLOT?!?!?!!? WHAT?!?!? This is a $99 device sold for $200
Rip off!!!
All that is going for it is quad core and 7inch. That's it!!!!
Not to mention all the screen issues people are having recently with the lcd screen coming unglued.
This is the biggest @#$% of @#$# ever. don't buy it!!! total waist of cash....
^ People use rear cameras on their tablets?
MicroSD slot, or lack of it has been explained by an Android engineer, it's to do with partitioning of applications and data and media. But I agree, more internal storage wouldn't have cost much at all
No haptic is a bit of a pain, personally hasn't bothered me if I've got touch sounds enabled
Oh, and go buy one of those endless fairly crap $99 tablets and come back to us crying... Tegra 3, the display and pure JB is worth way more than any of that a cheaper tablet might have
Well obviously you did NO research at all on it or you would have quickly known it didn't have those things. Go back to your iPod Touch (there's no such thing as an iTouch, I think you know very little about tech). You have no clue what Android is about. People are already figuring out ways around no SD slot or just using the cloud like Google intended. I have no issues with storage on my 16GB.
Typing is very easy without having haptic feedback. You want true feedback? Get a keyboard. Solved.
Me thinks you're an uber troll. Good day.
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Nexus 7 is open. Sure . But it is nothing more than a glorified iTouch.
In fact, the iTouch has two cameras.
I am so angry that I bought the Nexus 7. I totally assumed this tablet that everyone was raving about had :
1) Haptic Touch / vibration
2) A rear facing camera.
3) NO MICROSD SLOT ?!?!?
In fact, the front facing camera is only lie 1.5mpx
I would have let it slide for a 5mpx front facing camera but 1.5mpx ?!?!?!?
I totally want to see this device eat dirt. I'm so angry I got totally ripped off.
1.5mpx?!?!?!? front facing only?!?!?!
again I repeat. NO MICROSD SLOT?!?!?!!? WHAT?!?!? This is a $99 device sold for $200
Rip off!!!
All that is going for it is quad core and 7inch. That's it!!!!
Not to mention all the screen issues people are having recently with the lcd screen coming unglued.
This is the biggest @#$% of @#$# ever. don't buy it!!! total waist of cash....
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Omg! You mean you bought a device without researching it first and just assumed it had all the things you listed? Gtfo troll.
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hoshi411 said:
Nexus 7 is open. Sure . But it is nothing more than a glorified iTouch.
In fact, the iTouch has two cameras.
I am so angry that I bought the Nexus 7. I totally assumed this tablet that everyone was raving about had :
1) Haptic Touch / vibration
2) A rear facing camera.
3) NO MICROSD SLOT ?!?!?
In fact, the front facing camera is only lie 1.5mpx
I would have let it slide for a 5mpx front facing camera but 1.5mpx ?!?!?!?
I totally want to see this device eat dirt. I'm so angry I got totally ripped off.
1.5mpx?!?!?!? front facing only?!?!?!
again I repeat. NO MICROSD SLOT?!?!?!!? WHAT?!?!? This is a $99 device sold for $200
Rip off!!!
All that is going for it is quad core and 7inch. That's it!!!!
Not to mention all the screen issues people are having recently with the lcd screen coming unglued.
This is the biggest @#$% of @#$# ever. don't buy it!!! total waist of cash....
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You do understand that megapixels is a load of **** :good:
It's a front camera, it does fine for what is made for - skype and other video call apps.
It doesn't need to be high resolution at all as it's going to be compressed anyway.
I'm glad haptic feedback is gone personally but I do understand people who use it wishing it was in there.
You shouldn't have bought a nexus 7 in the first place. Hopefully you learned a valuable lesson, and in the future you will look at the specs before you purchase something instead of making up the features it has and then when something is missing its a total shocker.
I'm glad they offer one without a camera, because the low price point allows them to get jellybean into the hands of way more people and hopefully it's the start of a nice ecosystem. And second, maybe more importantly, if they had put a camera in it, it would just give the chronic whiners something else to focus on and complain about.
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I can hold it until Q1 of 2011. If Nexus S isn't worth replacing my Nexus One, what do you think will it be?
I won't be buying the S, even if I was up for an upgrade. No notification LEDs, no external SD card support, no significant hardware upgrades.
I'll wait and see what the dual core world has in store for us in the near future. I do like the LG Star a lot.
Also, for all those in the market, I'd at least wait until CES in January before making any decisions.
Unless you can't wait.
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I won't be buying the S, even if I was up for an upgrade. No notification LEDs, no external SD card support, no significant hardware upgrades.
I'll wait and see what the dual core world has in store for us in the near future. I do like the LG Star a lot.
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I never really paid much attention to the LG Star, but now since I keep hearing it being mentioned, I did a quick Google search.
It definitely destroys the NS it seems in terms of hardware..
boring device, I was expecting at least a keyboard, I might jump to sprint and get the EVO, this is my desired device so far:
-qwerty keyboard
-Call End hardware buttons, front hardware butons for home back and menu
-4" screen
I'm holding out for something made by HTC... Dual core with a decent gpu... Gingerbread or better.. no keyboard needed... a decent external speaker.. and 4"+ display with a better resolution than wvga.. hdmi out .. 4g etc..
i can wait... my N1 is more than adequate for the time being
Well, I plan to stay on Tmobile so I guess Im going to keep waiting as I agree with many others, The S is not a big enough improvement over the Original.
On Tmo as well with N1.
I'm thinking of grabbing up a MT4G for now, bc I'm looking for a new device. The Nexus One is an awesome device, it's just that as a year approches, I need something new. The MT4G is will be a great interim phone until something with:
Dual Core
4+" AMOLED/SLCD
768MB+ RAM
2.3 Stock
HSPA+ support
and why not throw a front facing camera just so people can't hate on it.
Oh and made my HTC!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/nexus-s-will-drop-super-amoled-in-favor-of-super-clear-lcd-in-ru/
If this is true and if it is available outside of Russia, then NexusS with LCD looks to me like the interesting option again. Even despite of boring amorphous rounded shape and cheap plasticky feel.
I simply hate the grainy looks and pentile artefacts of the current SAMOLED generation.
Possibly the PlayStation phone. Battery life would have to be killer.
Damn... I would rather it have a super clear LCD too... hate the RGBG pixel arrangement =(
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/nexus-s-will-drop-super-amoled-in-favor-of-super-clear-lcd-in-ru/
If this is true and if it is available outside of Russia, then NexusS with LCD looks to me like the interesting option again. Even despite of boring amorphous rounded shape and cheap plasticky feel.
I simply hate the grainy looks and pentile artefacts of the current SAMOLED generation.
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An Orion chip will seal the deal for me .
moto olympus could be a nice option
I don't get the HTC hype from everyone.
Sure, they used nice materials for the N1 exterior, but the screen is pathetic, the power button eventually fails, the volume buttons fail, and the speaker is terrible.
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I don't get the HTC hype from everyone.
Sure, they used nice materials for the N1 exterior, but the screen is pathetic, the power button eventually fails, the volume buttons fail, and the speaker is terrible.
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Exactly how long does it take for this to happen? Honestly I'm curious, I assume since I got it in March this would've happened already ._.
gibosn6594 said:
I don't get the HTC hype from everyone.
Sure, they used nice materials for the N1 exterior, but the screen is pathetic, the power button eventually fails, the volume buttons fail, and the speaker is terrible.
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I have to agree, other than the really nice exterior of the N1, nothing else is really that great. The speakers are just HORRIBLE - and the screen is just unbelievable. I am happy to have some plastic to be honest if it means a very good screen and speakers.
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I have to agree, other than the really nice exterior of the N1, nothing else is really that great. The speakers are just HORRIBLE - and the screen is just unbelievable. I am happy to have some plastic to be honest if it means a very good screen and speakers.
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Funny this.
That "unbelievable" AMOLED screen is actually produced by the same Samsung and was rawed as the ultimate and absolutely gorgeous AMOLED, the final answer to all the OLED problems. Then couple of months later came Super-Amoled and it is the same story once again.
Just wait for Ultra-Amoled and all the forums around the world will immediately explode with comments stating, that those S-Amoleds are just plain horrible
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I have to agree, other than the really nice exterior of the N1, nothing else is really that great. The speakers are just HORRIBLE - and the screen is just unbelievable. I am happy to have some plastic to be honest if it means a very good screen and speakers.
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It may not happen at all, but it's a pretty widespread and well known N1 issue.
Mine has just started to get pretty bad and I got mine in January.
Got a G1, because it was supported by the google and the community, got a Nexus 1 for the same reasons. I will not be getting the NS, and will wait til whatever google declares as the successor to that.
It will easily be 12 months away, but I think I can manage with the N1 until then.
Eclair~ said:
I never really paid much attention to the LG Star, but now since I keep hearing it being mentioned, I did a quick Google search.
It definitely destroys the NS it seems in terms of hardware..
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LG Star looks interesting, but doesn't LG produce low class phones ? I hope it will have vanilla Android without some custom LG UI.
Interested to hear the likes and dislikes of the NS from those that have had a little time with it.
I know I am hatting the call quality, poor battery meter and radio reception. Hope its just a matter of getting updates to correct these things.
Love the phone overall aside from some left out givens from the galaxy S line. Would like the phone to replace my Vibrant but the call quality so far is killing it for me. Knowing the phone will be first on the next update seems like a plus but at the cost of a few nice features.
Thoughts?
tintingkc said:
Interested to hear the likes and dislikes of the NS from those that have had a little time with it.
I know I am hatting the call quality, poor battery meter and radio reception. Hope its just a matter of getting updates to correct these things.
Love the phone overall aside from some left out givens from the galaxy S line. Would like the phone to replace my Vibrant but the call quality so far is killing it for me. Knowing the phone will be first on the next update seems like a plus but at the cost of a few nice features.
Thoughts?
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I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
Here are my thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9870794&postcount=108
My only issues:
-Charges somewhat slowly (but it has great battery life)
-Gets hot when you charge it (biggest con for me)
-Maybe it was only because of the large amount of files I was copying, but when I mounted the USB storage it lagged quite a bit.
BlackOtaku said:
Here are my thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9870794&postcount=108
My only issues:
-Charges somewhat slowly (but it has great battery life)
-Gets hot when you charge it (biggest con for me)
-Maybe it was only because of the large amount of files I was copying, but when I mounted the USB storage it lagged quite a bit.
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Yeah it lagged for me too, only when I was transferring though, safe to assume it was just that. As for the call quality, I find it very good, no complaints here.
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My only problem would be the touch sensitivity on the left and right side of the phone....when landscape texting my thumb naturally hits the edge of the glass and dosent register =/ the vibrant does register but not the MT4G...
anyone else with this thing??
I think it is AWESOME!
coming from a nexus one
LOVE
4" SAMOLED screen especially outside
speed
TRUE multi touch
seems like it has better building penetration for reception
HATE
no notification light
no 2nd microphone for noise cancellation
slowz3r said:
I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
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Calls sound digitized and buzzy. I sound find to the other party but my side sounds too processed. My Vibrant and N1 are clear with no artifacts. Will swap it out when stock is back up and give it a second chance.
Poor reception in my area at the house. AT&T full bars, on T-Mobile, my bars go from full to 0 to 3, it's just weird, I can just sit here and see it move around.
3G not so great here either. Both these issues is with Cell Coverage, so not really phone related.
No Notification Light is still a big annoying. noLED helps a little but that software needs some major tweaking/options for me to completely like it.
Gingerbread 2.3 keyboard: Stock 2.2 you can swipe left to right to engage voice, no such feature in 2.3, and the mic icon (if you want voice) replaces the comma button , if you turn off the mic icon, comma appears, but now you can't engage voice sigh. Bring back swipe for voice please Google.
Screen is incredible. 100x better than Nexus One. Even in daylight. Only complaint is that it's TOO DAMN BRIGHT.... fixed with the app Screen FIlter.
Web browsing zooming in/out is a bit laggy and not as smooth as I'd like.
No issues on call quality to and from.
I like that the power button is on the side. The external speaker is amazing, huge upgrade form the Nexus One. So much louder and fuller.
I'm coming off a CyanogenMod Nexus One, and happy as heck the Nexus S got rooted first day. I've running everything I need/want on the Nexus S right now. No hiccups from switching from Nexus One CM6.1
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My only problem would be the touch sensitivity on the left and right side of the phone....when landscape texting my thumb naturally hits the edge of the glass and dosent register =/ the vibrant does register but not the MT4G...
anyone else with this thing??
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I'm having this same issue lol. I'll adjust though. >.<
Anderdroid said:
I'm having this same issue lol. I'll adjust though. >.<
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same here its not a defect I think lol its just that the keyboard is soooooo low in landscape mode lol
azzeh3 said:
same here its not a defect I think lol its just that the keyboard is soooooo low in landscape mode lol
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I think I'm gonna try haxxing the keyboard and making it higher lol.
Yeah if you work it let me know man pm me or something lol
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slowz3r said:
I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
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Go somewhere noisy. Make a call and the person you are talking to will be lucky to hear half of what you say. The NS is absolutely amazing at picking up every noise but the ones coming from your mouth.
I've had no issues with mine at all. This phone has been pure winfor me!
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Go somewhere noisy. Make a call and the person you are talking to will be lucky to hear half of what you say. The NS is absolutely amazing at picking up every noise but the ones coming from your mouth.
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My dad is on his second NS. Everything he moves (walks or driving) while on a call the person on the other end will start hearing the call being choppy.
So far, my phone has been great.
I only have two complaints about the Nexus S:
- I wish they had used some kind of text coating on the casing to give it a bit of extra grip. The phone, when I first handled it, was really slick.
- There's the ever so slight separation between the glass and casing at the edges that can, will, and does attract dust/dirt/whatevs.
And just one general rant: Stop rearranging the god damn capacitive buttons. Pick an order and stick with it. Google/the OEMs can change the pictures or icons if you like, but please pick an order. It's not fun to relearn a phones buttons every time you get a new one.
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And just one general rant: Stop rearranging the god damn capacitive buttons. Pick an order and stick with it. Google/the OEMs can change the pictures or icons if you like, but please pick an order. It's not fun to relearn a phones buttons every time you get a new one.
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They just want to keep your mind sharp hahahahaha
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They just want to keep your mind sharp hahahahaha
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I know it's a relatively minor complaint and I adjust quickly but still. Lol.
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I know it's a relatively minor complaint and I adjust quickly but still. Lol.
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It might seem minor, but it really drives people up the wall. My girlfriend decided against upgrading from her N1 to the NS solely because "What? They changed the key layout? Why would they do that?" And she is no dummy, (PHD in organic chem) she could easily adapt in a day or two. But ppeople really value consistency. The proper button order should be part of the Android specs and not left up to the whims of every 2 bit company using Android.
It finally will arrive from the buyer. Can't wait to root it and get some more CM6 action. Also can't wait to get my Nexus on eBay.
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Grats!
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Congrats pal.
So are you selling nexus s or one on ebay to get g2?. If yes, why? I have nexus s and thinking about exchanging it for g2.
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nohcho said:
So are you selling nexus s or one on ebay to get g2?. If yes, why? I have nexus s and thinking about exchanging it for g2.
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That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
Since they're both fairly equal on the specs level (minus the above nit-picks), I'd rather have the extra $250 and the G2's quirks over the Nexus's quirks. I'm also expecting a lot of "next-gen" Android devices to be unveiled at CES, so I'm probably only going to have this phone for 4-6 months anyways. The Nexus is just a little too pricey for something that isn't far enough beyond the G2; they're both essentially in the same hardware "generation."
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That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
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I can't possibly agree with all your + and - points....
AMOLED is WAY oversaturated. Nice in theory, but doesn't actually look right. It is quite a ways from being on par with SLCD for image quality.
On the VISION, the smaller screen is a ***PLUS***. I actually find the Vision's screen to still be too big. The DREAM's touch screen was a good size. I would never own a phone with a 4+ as it just gets to be too much stretching for 1-handed operation.
Also, being heavier and larger is also a POSITIVE. As an example, try to see how long a ford focus will last out on a battlefield against tanks and machine guns. A phone has to be sturdy and have a substantial mass to it because it IS used in a hostile environment -- temperature changes, water, being dropped, etc. It is also easier to hold when it has some weight. The tiny and low weight junkies are seriously confused people. Its not as if the thing is as big as a cell phone from the 80's.
dhkr123 said:
I can't possibly agree with all your + and - points....
AMOLED is WAY oversaturated. Nice in theory, but doesn't actually look right. It is quite a ways from being on par with SLCD for image quality.
On the VISION, the smaller screen is a ***PLUS***. I actually find the Vision's screen to still be too big. The DREAM's touch screen was a good size. I would never own a phone with a 4+ as it just gets to be too much stretching for 1-handed operation.
Also, being heavier and larger is also a POSITIVE. As an example, try to see how long a ford focus will last out on a battlefield against tanks and machine guns. A phone has to be sturdy and have a substantial mass to it because it IS used in a hostile environment -- temperature changes, water, being dropped, etc. It is also easier to hold when it has some weight. The tiny and low weight junkies are seriously confused people. Its not as if the thing is as big as a cell phone from the 80's.
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Relax. They were my own opinions.
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TheBiles said:
Relax. They were my own opinions.
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I am relaxed. I'm just helping to improve your perspective on the device you have chosen to own. I.e., you should feel even better! What you've chosen is, by FAR, the best phone out there.
Yep got mine last week, awesome phone..running gingerbread rom nicely
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I'm still using CM6.1.1 until we get an official CM7 RC. I just love my CM extras too much.
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I won't be touching CM7 on Vision until I know that it can be trusted. Phone has to actually work. Experimental stuff to happen on the Dream.
I finally took the plunge and I have ordered a Desire Z to arrive tomorrow. I almost bit the bullet and bought it at launch but during the delays in Europe, I read so much about the hinge issue and chickened out.
My Touch Pro 2 has developed the dreaded newton rings for the second time in 6months and I have sent it away to be repaired on warranty. I will sell it when it returns.
This situation forced me into buying a new phone and I looked at the Desire Z (again), Nexus S and Desire HD. I just couldnt bring myself to accept the size of the DHD. I have used phones with keyboards for the past 3 years and I dont think I can live without a keyboard. I went to Bestbuy on a few occassions to try out the touchscreen keyboard on the NS but it just didnt feel rght. I know how frustrated I got when I tried to type simple mesages on the screen of my TP2.
I decided on getting the DZ since the hinge 'problem' only surfaces when the phone is held in a ridiculous way you probably will never hold it in most real world situations. Anyway I bought it online so I have 7 days to return it if the hinge seems to be a really big problem.
TheBiles said:
That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
Since they're both fairly equal on the specs level (minus the above nit-picks), I'd rather have the extra $250 and the G2's quirks over the Nexus's quirks. I'm also expecting a lot of "next-gen" Android devices to be unveiled at CES, so I'm probably only going to have this phone for 4-6 months anyways. The Nexus is just a little too pricey for something that isn't far enough beyond the G2; they're both essentially in the same hardware "generation."
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This is one of the clearest break downs I've seen for choosing a G2. These are some of the reason I chose the G2. Plus I really feel like both the Nexus S and Gingerbread were a rush job for the Christmas dough.
That said, I almost got the Nexus S just for the resale value. Because, come april-may 2011 the G2 probably won't fetch more than $175-200 tops.
Oh well I saved money on this end.
lombardo8 said:
I have used phones with keyboards for the past 3 years and I dont think I can live without a keyboard. I went to Bestbuy on a few occassions to try out the touchscreen keyboard on the NS but it just didnt feel rght. I know how frustrated I got when I tried to type simple mesages on the screen of my TP2.
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I can't stand "traditional" touchscreen keyboards either, but Swype works really well. I am finding myself surprised at how often I use Swype instead of the hardware keyboard on my Vision. I still use the hardware keyboard for longer messages. But for my next phone, I may seriously consider a phone without a keyboard.
redpoint73 said:
I can't stand "traditional" touchscreen keyboards either, but Swype works really well. I am finding myself surprised at how often I use Swype instead of the hardware keyboard on my Vision. I still use the hardware keyboard for longer messages. But for my next phone, I may seriously consider a phone without a keyboard.
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That has to be a matter of personal preference. Swype, to me, was absolute garbage, so I deleted it.
dhkr123 said:
That has to be a matter of personal preference. Swype, to me, was absolute garbage, so I deleted it.
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Personal preference? Absolutely. But I'm surprised you would go so far as to call Swype "absolute garbage". What about it didn't you like? As a "regular" touchscreen keyboard, its seems just about as good as any other. As far as 'swiping' words, I find it very good at predicting the word I intended, even when I often know for fact that I didn't hit the letters exactly right.
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Personal preference? Absolutely. But I'm surprised you would go so far as to call Swype "absolute garbage". What about it didn't you like? As a "regular" touchscreen keyboard, its seems just about as good as any other. As far as 'swiping' words, I find it very good at predicting the word I intended, even when I often know for fact that I didn't hit the letters exactly right.
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Swype is the thing of gods. I couldn't use a software keyboard without it.
I tried Swpe on a colleagues Galaxy S and was very impressed. I could get used to using Swype but the problem is I type mainly in slang and a kind of english (african patois) which means I woud have to use the Swype keyboard like an ordinary keyboard most times.
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I tried Swpe on a colleagues Galaxy S and was very impressed. I could get used to using Swype but the problem is I type mainly in slang and a kind of english (african patois) which means I woud have to use the Swype keyboard like an ordinary keyboard most times.
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After you type the word once it will learn it.
What a phone! So so beautiful! That hinge is not an issue. Under no circumstances would I hold my phone the way that we see in all them videos on the internet.
ALK say on their website that u cant transfer copilot live 8 from a windows mobile to an android phone but its a big lie!. it was the first thing i installed and it works a treat. I have also downloaded angry birds, I know everyones going crazy about that so I thought i would join in. I am going to try and install Swype in a minute. I have only had the phone about 45 minutes and I am completely blown away. I was actually able to watch hustle on BBC iPlayer in my browser. Phone technolgy has grown in leaps and bounds since I bought my TP2.
Thank goodness I didnt allow those videos about the hinge put me off from buying this truly wonderful phone.
There's no mention whether pixel comes with notification light or not but i've got confirmation from google cs that it does and it's placed near the front camera.
I personally love notification light feature.
If anyone has any more details relating to this please share.
This is from the Specifications section on the Pixel product page on the Google Store: https://store.google.com/product/pixel_phone
that's good to know.
But boy it's expensive, what'a happened to google.
riz157 said:
that's good to know.
But boy it's expensive, what'a happened to google.
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They decided to cash in with the big boys.
SAL8116 said:
They decided to cash in with the big boys.
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Which is fine if the device is equal to the other flagships.....but it is not.
I will be curious to see if google can pull this off...in all honesty for what your getting its at least 300 overpriced.
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This is from the Specifications section on the Pixel product page on the Google Store: https://store.google.com/product/pixel_phone
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force70 said:
Which is fine if the device is equal to the other flagships.....but it is not.
I will be curious to see if google can pull this off...in all honesty for what your getting its at least 300 overpriced.
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Just curious, because I keep hearing this. How is the Pixel not equivalent to other "flagships" ?
Thus far every quick comparison hands on I've seen from reputable YouTuber's directly compare it's specs to the iPhone 7 +, S7/N7 line.. in those quick comparisons it's either on par or exceeds the other spec wise..
Edit: To add, what features you think detract from being considered a "flagship" device is irrelevant. Just because the iPhone doesn't have an S Pen doesn't make it worth any less to the iPhone crowd, where as Note fans wouldn't consider the iPhone because it's lacking one...
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Just curious, because I keep hearing this. How is the Pixel not equivalent to other "flagships" ?
Thus far every quick comparison hands on I've seen from reputable YouTuber's directly compare it's specs to the iPhone 7 +, S7/N7 line.. in those quick comparisons it's either on par or exceeds the other spec wise..
Edit: To add, what features you think detract from being considered a "flagship" device is irrelevant. Just because the iPhone doesn't have an S Pen doesn't make it worth any less to the iPhone crowd, where as Note fans wouldn't consider the iPhone because it's lacking one...
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Its missing certain features from the previous nexus as well what other devices in its class offer
Screen is smalller than note 7 or zenfone 3 deluxe..they should have kept it at 5.7 at least
They ditched the stereo speakers which i dont get given the huge bezels on the thing lol. Axon 7 and iphone have this
Smallish internal storage, where is the 256gb option? Would not expect a google device to have an SD card slot but for the money they want it needs more internal or the slot. Iphone offers 256gb and note, axon, asus have sd slots
No water resistance..dont really care about this but other devices in its class offer it. Note and iphone have this
Only 4gb am...again i dont care but other devices in its class ( and below it) have 6gb. One plus 3 6gb, zenfone 3 6gb etc etc
There is nothing wrong with the device, its actually really nice however if you are going to charge a premium and then some for it you damn sure better have all the bells and whistles....and it does not.
Give me a pixel XL with a 5.7 to 6" screen, stereo speakers and 256gb of storage and id be the first one waving money around to buy it.
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I read it was under the top speaker grille. Being that it's HTC, that seems correct.
Don't seem to be doing too well, in the uk the black xl is still showing dispatches by 20th Oct. Not sold out and no queues.
I think HTC and google are sharing the profits 50/50 hence the stupid stupid price. HTC do all the work and google take the profit, I think they have HTC by the short and curlies.
It's a nice phone far far better and more premium then nexus 6p in every dept, which lets be honest felt cheap and really flimsy. Screen was flat and material was very thin.
Ideally pixel xl should have been priced around £600 - £650 for the 128gb version when comparing to last years model. £500 is far too cheap for this phone when comparing to other top end phones.
If this phone fails then it's purely down to pricing.
Why does every thread descend into: "It's too expensive and the bezels are huge"? This is a thread about a notification LED, go whinge in the whingers thread!
Anyway... I would expect it to be hidden behind the glass at the top like the N6P, they took a similar approach of not mentioning the damn thing apart from the little sub note on the Google store page. I definitely missed it on the N6 and was glad to have it back on the 6P. I hope it isn't a grille effort as HTC had a habit in the past of only putting RAG LEDs behind the grille thus eliminating 16.6something million colours.
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Its missing certain features from the previous nexus as well what other devices in its class offer
Screen is smalller than note 7 or zenfone 3 deluxe..they should have kept it at 5.7 at least
They ditched the stereo speakers which i dont get given the huge bezels on the thing lol. Axon 7 and iphone have this
Smallish internal storage, where is the 256gb option? Would not expect a google device to have an SD card slot but for the money they want it needs more internal or the slot. Iphone offers 256gb and note, axon, asus have sd slots
No water resistance..dont really care about this but other devices in its class offer it. Note and iphone have this
Only 4gb am...again i dont care but other devices in its class ( and below it) have 6gb. One plus 3 6gb, zenfone 3 6gb etc etc
There is nothing wrong with the device, its actually really nice however if you are going to charge a premium and then some for it you damn sure better have all the bells and whistles....and it does not.
Give me a pixel XL with a 5.7 to 6" screen, stereo speakers and 256gb of storage and id be the first one waving money around to buy it.
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My apologies, I hate these back and forth debates that seem to continually infiltrate pertinent threads....But the "flagship" issue needs to be put to rest....
Everything you've just listed are features you'd like to have seen on the next device. Well, obviously they're not there. However, because they're not there like you wanted them to be doesn't in any way detract from what is... What is there ranks this device among all other flagship devices like them or not. I would love to have seen Google put out a Pixel that is a combination of every other phones key features rolled into one nice $500 package. Unfortunately, that isn't what happened due to monetary and technical constraints phone manufacturers have to deal with. I'm not knocking your thought process, because I would love to have seen a 5.7" display and front firing speakers, both of which are a disappointing omission to me. But the specs it does have put it into the "flagship" category.
Again, my apologies...
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Soooo happy to hear about the light coming back. Sucks not having it on the six!
tgyberg said:
Soooo happy to hear about the light coming back. Sucks not having it on the six!
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the nexus 6 does have a notification light though...it's in the speaker grill
vivanshah said:
the nexus 6 does have a notification light though...it's in the speaker grill
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Yes, I use it on my N6 all the time.
vivanshah said:
the nexus 6 does have a notification light though...it's in the speaker grill
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I never bothered with getting it going, rather just have it work right out of the box stock
Ah man no pixel light bar under that glass back panel, that would have been dope ! or light up around the FP scanner
hutzdani said:
Ah man no pixel light bar under that glass back panel, that would have been dope ! or light up around the FP scanner
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Then you'd have to place the phone face down. I would hate that. It would have been cool to use the bottom front bezel for a lightbar like on the other pixel devices that could be used for notifications.
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Then you'd have to place the phone face down. I would hate that. It would have been cool to use the bottom front bezel for a lightbar like on the other pixel devices that could be used for notifications.
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I agree, always have my phone face up. I'm glad there is a notification light, such a useful feature for me. I like to glance at my phone on my desk & see if anything is up.
I like notification. Light. But I never trust it. Lol. Especially this time of year. I await any new news o. Our pixel. Flashing or not. I check my phone waaay to often.
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at first I was very upset for the price of the pixel and although I got a great deal on this phone (580$).
I honestly think that this phone is worth 750$ for the right consumer.
this is why I think is not over priced. I owned a bunch of smartphones including all the latest flagships, s7edge.note7,one plus3, lg v20, nexus, 6p, iPhone 7, and many more. and one thing I noticed that everyone says the pixel doesn't offer much for its price. example it doesn't have a dual edge, or a 2nd screen at the top, is not water resistant, doesn't have ir blaster, or dual front facing speakers. people feel like they are paying for just a plain basic phone! which is correct! on mys s7edge I ended up hating the stupid edge screen accidental touches were becoming a norm. the edge panel is turned off by majority of users so other than esthetics imo is useless, lg v20 2nd display yes is convenient and pretty cool but the only major used I have is to use the torch, most of the times I still landlocked the phone to do task that I could of done from the 2bd display. plus is very inconvenient is placed all the way at the top and the lg v20 is not a small phone.
to summarize this the pixel is a plain android phone without any useless gimmicks that other manufactures are using. could they have added a few more features. yes perhaps water resistant and dual front facing speakers would have been nice. but just the fluid pure android experience on this phone defiantly makes it worth its premium price.
again this is personal my opinion and I would enjoy to see what you guys think after owning the pixel!
Every phone is missing something. From Samsung missing proper long term updates, iPhone missing some hardware features, to Pixel missing hardware features. It's up to the consumer to decide which checkboxes are more important. I think all the hate on the phone comes from people expecting the Pixel to check off every box a consumer would want at the same price point the competition is at, even though they are all missing something as well. Business doesn't work that way.
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Every phone is missing something. From Samsung missing proper long term updates, iPhone missing some hardware features, to Pixel missing hardware features. It's up to the consumer to decide which checkboxes are more important. I think all the hate on the phone comes from people expecting the Pixel to check off every box a consumer would want at the same price point the competition is at, even though they are all missing something as well. Business doesn't work that way.
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What hardware features is the pixel missing? front facing speakers?
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What hardware features is the pixel missing? front facing speakers?
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That's they only thing I would have really liked never really cared for bottom frieing speakers, waterproofing would have been cool ... And maybe a physical home button but I know that's not really a feature many care about .... None of which takes away from it being a nice phone ..... I think all phones are a bit over priced lol, price is subject anyway the only person who needs to worry about it is the one who's buying it and if it's too much they have the choice to get something cheaper
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That's they only thing I would have really liked never really cared for bottom frieing speakers, waterproofing would have been cool ... And maybe a physical home button but I know that's not really a feature many care about .... None of which takes away from it being a nice phone ..... I think all phones are a bit over priced lol, price is subject anyway the only person who needs to worry about it is the one who's buying it and if it's too much they have the choice to get something cheaper
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I personallt prefer on screen buttons rather than hardware. people say you get more screen real state but I I actually enjoy the on screen better. although my biggest let down was the two speakers which I feel like they should have put there. other than that the phone is just what I wanted. stock, and lighting fast!
I mostly agree, this phone performs like no other. It should be 64gb base storage however.
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I mostly agree, this phone performs like no other. It should be 64gb base storage however.
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oh yes that's a big one!! DEFINETLY base should of been 64GB..
but Google is smart most people went 128GBB which is exactly what they hoped for.. I believe that's why they limited the base model to 32GB and try to make up with unlimited storage.
You forgot no sd card slot which pretty much the only other flagship phone that also does not have one is iphone. Also you forgot about no OIS which is one thing a lot of people were upset about.
My biggest things for me is no sd card slot, and a one single mono speaker, not just that its not dual front speakers, that it is just only one speaker. They could have made the audio a lot better if they copied the Htc 10 boomsound dual speakers which are not front facing but they sound a lot better than the pixel xl's single speaker.
I never would have paid full price for my 32 gig pixel xl, well actually I did but I got a $200 best buy gift card in the deal, and a free chromecast yes lol woo hoo a free old model chromecast when the new 4k version is out already lol.
I wanted a pixel, it's the best android smartphone period. I am using iPhone 7 Plus for about 3 weeks now, and I love it, It's worth the money, it offers tech, that no other competitors does yet, and even if they did, without google implementation it will suck. They should have started this year with a little bit lower price, considering the large unnecessary chin and all the other features they ignored. Next year with iPhone 8 google must really bring their A game.
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For me the premium price pays for all the tiny attention to detail points on the phone. I love all the little optimisations that culminate into the bigger picture. Custom CPU tuning with Qualcomm, camera ISP tweaks, touchscreen latency, fantastic build quality, in house developments like the insane video stabilisation and HDR+ all add up. Stereo speakers would've been great, it's the only thing I miss from the 6P but the down firing speaker works loud and clear and a worthwhile trade off for such a sleek performer.
Dude, it's very much overpriced.
It's missing sooo many hardware features that other phones have.
IR blaster for acting as a TV remote.
MicroSD for additional storage.
Water resistance of a decent nature.
So many more things but I don't want to think about it because I'll just get upset at my phone again.
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What hardware features is the pixel missing? front facing speakers?
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Here is pretty much what it seems most people griping about the phone want.
A phone design of the ages.... absolutely flawless
Indestructible "premium" body that is light as a feather
Scratchproof shatterproof screen
Radios that reach the cosmos
The next version of the OS that isn't released yet before coders even know what they're coding
An OS that predicts your every move
Absolutely zero manufacturing tolerances
Next year's internals
Stereo speakers
THX wired and wireless audio from a phone
SD card
Removable battery
Fast Charging
Fast Wireless Charging
A phone so water and dustproof that even air can't permeate the body
Endless storage
A camera that rivals Hubble
......all for 4 easy payments of $19.95
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Here is pretty much what it seems most people griping about the phone want.
A phone design of the ages.... absolutely flawless
Indestructible "premium" body that is light as a feather
Scratchproof shatterproof screen
Radios that reach the cosmos
The next version of the OS that isn't released yet before coders even know what they're coding
An OS that predicts your every move
Absolutely zero manufacturing tolerances
Next year's internals
Stereo speakers
THX wired and wireless audio from a phone
SD card
Removable battery
Fast Charging
Fast Wireless Charging
A phone so water and dustproof that even air can't permeate the body
Endless storage
A camera that rivals Hubble
......all for 4 easy payments of $19.95
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LOL BEST REPLY SO FAR. consumers will never be sastified..
CZ Eddie said:
Dude, it's very much overpriced.
It's missing sooo many hardware features that other phones have.
IR blaster for acting as a TV remote.
MicroSD for additional storage.
Water resistance of a decent nature.
So many more things but I don't want to think about it because I'll just get upset at my phone again.
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bro if this are so important to you, you should honestly go get a LG v20.. why buy a phone that is aim for pure android experience. and although the pixel is not rated water resistant it holds up very well. as it was submerge in water for one hour and it was fully functional at the end. and I never used the ir blaster I rather buy a universal remote.. when a phone tries to do too much it always fails at something and mostly is a lot bigger than what you gain.
I wanted a ****ty ass LG phone I would have bought one.
I don't think anybody is missing ois, especially anybody who has used the phone...
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I don't mind the price of $649/$749.
However, I do mind the big price hike in Canada... $899 for the 5" and $1049 for the 5.5"?
Come on
The 749 USD translates to 1003 cad right now so it's not that big of a price hike lol, the conversion just sucks right now lol
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CZ Eddie said:
Dude, it's very much overpriced.
It's missing sooo many hardware features that other phones have.
IR blaster for acting as a TV remote.
MicroSD for additional storage.
Water resistance of a decent nature.
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4x4 MIMO would have been nice for the money they're asking for.