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Us old G1/Dream users need a successor!!!

I just made this thread to see how us G1/Dream owners feel about our outdated, falling apart phones.
Phones we should consider:
Nexus One
HTC Sidekick Twist
Samsung Galaxy S
HTC Evo 4g
Add more phones to the list and tell me how you feel about your G1 and why there is no worthy successor. (Full five row Qwerty and more)

Motorola Droid/Milestone. Does have qwerty.
But I think I'll wait until christmass with change

HTC needs to make the true next successor the G1
make it the first 4g phone on t-mobile call it the g2 release at the end of the year with gingerbread stock and bam SUCCESS

theres not a single phone out now, or rumored to be coming out that I would give up my G1 for.

maxidus said:
Motorola Droid/Milestone. Does have qwerty.
But I think I'll wait until christmass with change
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Droid keyboard is ****ty, useless and doesn't have 5th numeric row.
I wonder if LG Ally will be available in Europe...

It hurt as the G1 has some good and bad points as
Only 5 row keyboard Android in U.S.
Started Android from rc28 (look at what Android has accomplished!!)
Limited Space
Outdated Processor
Is getting old and many are falling apart
Still goes for $150 - $450!!!!!!!
G1 did well to show Android but now we need a true successor.. Have you all seen the Inbrics M1? 5 row keyboard, but I wish it was stock Android 2.1

Mytouch 3G Slide FTW xD

J.a.M said:
make it the first 4g phone on t-mobile call it the g2 release at the end of the year with gingerbread stock and bam SUCCESS
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There's already a g2.. it's tmobile's name for the hero.
jamesd86 said:
theres not a single phone out now, or rumored to be coming out that I would give up my G1 for.
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Not even the Vision...?

goldenarmZ said:
There's already a g2.. it's tmobile's name for the hero.
Not even the Vision...?
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I didn't look more than one google page deep but the last news I found was just a build id that said qwerty keyboard and the name of the phone, not enough for me to say I want. Seriously mu next phone purchase will be in 2011...by then we should have a dualcore mobile that kicks ass...now if only batteries followed moores law.

The Samsung Galaxy S Pro looks decent, it has a 5 row qwerty keyboard but still nothing on the specs (probably identical/similar to the Galaxy S).
HTC needs to re-release the G1/Dream with the Snapdragon processor, more ram/rom, better screen (higher resolution, better touchscreen, AMOLED display), better camera (at least 5MP with flash) and a normal headphone jack. Keep the same case/keyboard/screen size... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Had my G1 for a couple of years now and it's a great android starter phone.
But after a while you come to realize it's not that great after all.
Just like that guy in Utah, that died by firing squad last night, I've decided to place my phone against a wall (blindfolded of course), and let off a .50 cal round from my M107, straight into the menu button. I offered it one last flash, but true to form and solid as a brick (get it? brick? hahahaha) it refused.
So the plan that i've being plotting for a while now is coming into fruition. I've discovered something that has literally thousands more apps, great ui/responsiveness and is cosmetically better looking.
Six days from the date of this post I will have my new phone.

wcdisciple said:
Had my G1 for a couple of years now and it's a great android starter phone.
But after a while you come to realize it's not that great after all.
Just like that guy in Utah, that died by firing squad last night, I've decided to place my phone against a wall (blindfolded of course), and let off a .50 cal round from my M107, straight into the menu button. I offered it one last flash, but true to form and solid as a brick (get it? brick? hahahaha) it refused.
So the plan that i've being plotting for a while now is coming into fruition. I've discovered something that has literally thousands more apps, great ui/responsiveness and is cosmetically better looking.
Six days from the date of this post I will have my new phone.
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You're a MORON, and I would kindly ask you to STOP POSTING.

lbcoder said:
You're a MORON, and I would kindly ask you to STOP POSTING.
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i do concur lbcoder...

wsdisciple, does someone pay you for spamming this link to apple site? Or are you 10 years old?
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As I stated before, I'm not going to replace G1 for now. Simply because there is no other decent phone with 5 row qwerty keyboard and I don't feel like pushing or holding shift to select numbers.

d3v14n7 said:
The Samsung Galaxy S Pro looks decent, it has a 5 row qwerty keyboard but still nothing on the specs (probably identical/similar to the Galaxy S).
HTC needs to re-release the G1/Dream with the Snapdragon processor, more ram/rom, better screen (higher resolution, better touchscreen, AMOLED display), better camera (at least 5MP with flash) and a normal headphone jack. Keep the same case/keyboard/screen size... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.

GinoAMelone said:
Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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I love the chin and real buttons! My girlfriend has a Droid, and everytime I go to hit any of those soft buttons, I'm momentarily aggravated. Especially for long presses, which I use VERY often. Same shell, maybe add an exterior hardware search button, replace the trackball with an optical pad, front facing camera, and maybe a seperate led for charging. That, and everything else that's been said, would be the best phone ever. And it'd be faster than my computer..

wc is still going on with his apple fan-boy craziness?
The only real successor to a G1 would be to completely remake it with nothing but hardware upgrades. And a tad bit stronger. I read many many posts about the keyboard messing up and the G1 just plain out falling apart as OP said. I think it was rushed, and Google should have based the Nexus One off of it. Who knows, maybe one day something will roll out.
I say all this and I'm stuck with a myTouch. :| I've actually considered selling/trading it for a G1. My myTouch is just in horrible condition from so many drunken nights, lol.

GinoAMelone said:
Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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I disagree, I love the chin and the fact the buttons are separate from the screen, it allows you to easily use those buttons/trackball with the keyboard open.

d3v14n7 said:
I disagree, I love the chin and the fact the buttons are separate from the screen, it allows you to easily use those buttons/trackball with the keyboard open.
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The main problem I find with the "chin" isn't so much that it sticks out front, but that when the phone is laying flat on a desk, the "chin" section is lifted up. When you try to push a button, the thing pops up like a rake hitting a coyote in the head when he's trying to catch a roadrunner.

After seeing so many cracked screens I want my new phone to have a folding body with an inward facing screen when closed.
Also:
OLED screen
2 cameras
USB host
Infrared (handy sometimes)
iPhone destroyer beam

Are you satisified with your G2?

Sorry for the seemingly inane thread, but hear me out.
I'm considering importing the G2 so that means returning it would be impossible. A few questions before pulling the trigger:
- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
Thanks for helping me and apologies for making you fill out a survey like this

i really like the phone, ive had a couple of them to compare. its really fast... with the stock rom, small compared to my hd2, they keyboard is going to take a little getting used to(im a custom to the touch pro), the hardware button for the camera is nice, and its native OS is droid.

cbmm said:
i really like the phone, ive had a couple of them to compare. its really fast... with the stock rom, small compared to my hd2, they keyboard is going to take a little getting used to(im a custom to the touch pro), the hardware button for the camera is nice, and its native OS is droid.
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I love it now that I over clocked it. The fact I can't get fully skinned roms is annoying but we already got overclock which has made this phone zooooom zooom. Fasted phone I have ever used.

Pickx said:
Sorry for the seemingly inane thread, but hear me out.
I'm considering importing the G2 so that means returning it would be impossible. A few questions before pulling the trigger:
- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
Thanks for helping me and apologies for making you fill out a survey like this
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The only real issue I've encountered thus far is the loose hinge that closes when you're typing in bed, for example, but I've found that holding the phone a little higher so that your fingers are on the sides of the screen keeps it open. Minor annoyance, to be sure.
Other than that, this phone is ****ing awesome. Personally I like the weight, but objectively it's quite heavy compared to other phones. Overall, I highly recommend it.

Honestly i think the build quality is a little inconsistent, which is common when a phone first launches. I would be very nervous if you cant exchange it if something was wrong. Fortunately for me i work at a retail store that sells phones so I can fully inspect a phone before I buy it. I checked out 3 G2's and only 1 of them was good enough to buy, the other 2 had dust under the screen. My hinge is loose as well but im not bothered by it.
I would probably wait for a few models runs until htc has these things ironed out.

i'll let you know i get mine today (swithching from Touch pro 2)

- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
not really, the device is great, the hspa coverage (for me) is spotty in areas i frequent, thus the only showstopper (for me)
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
number row on keyboard. sure hdmi out woudl be nice but a lot of things would be. possible rgb leds (unless thats been debunked/solved) around the trackpad and charger led
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
i like they keyboard, i find that i actually like swype but havent composed a big, long email yet. i dont really like how the keyboard doesnt feel centered and G/H are slightly to the right which is opposite of coming from a G1 with it being to the left due to the chin. the enter key i feel should be a row down but these are all things you can get accustomed to. the spacing and such are good. im not a huge fan of the hinge since when opened it feels a bit wobbly. i dont doubt its sturdy overall just feels "cheap". its like having a door on a ferrari rattle when you close it or something (you wouldnt complain but you wish it wouldnt do that).
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
the heft is both good and bad. it feels executive like a premium device. the downside is it might be more prone to those accidental drops or something. i dont mind the weight but if i had a pick id wish it would weigh nothing and be 1"x1" but have the display of an ipad. of course these things dont add up.
overall i might take mine back, not for the device at all however. i do like it, its snappy its clean it does what i want (wish the camera was a bit better but again, not a dealbreaker). the only issue i have is with signal, which isnt device related.

- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?Not really, I get weak signal in my apt, but once they release wifi calling that will be fixed. I also have gotten used to the higne and the reboots seem to have stopped for me.
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
Nope, I came from an iPhone to this phoen though, so I was feature light to begin with
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
This is my first keyboard phone and its awesome! pefect thickness, and the keyboard feels great.
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
Nah it feels solid, I would run with it, but I'd get some kind of neoprene sleeve/holster for it.

Pickx said:
Sorry for the seemingly inane thread, but hear me out.
I'm considering importing the G2 so that means returning it would be impossible. A few questions before pulling the trigger:
1- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
2- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
3- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
4- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
Thanks for helping me and apologies for making you fill out a survey like this
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1, not with mine in particular, dead pixels and a weak hinge would really piss me off though.
2. You know that is one thing I would have liked but not needed. I play emulators ALOT on my phone and it would have been very nice to be able to hook up two wii controllers and bust out some old snes games with my wife on the tv.
3. Extra bulk? You need to start lifting weights if its to heavy for you. Keys are very very nice as long as I cut my nails, I had nails that hadnt been cut for two weeks or so and it was annoying. Females probably wouldnt like it, maybe you just need to get used to it.
4. Bulky? Naw I love it, it just feel cheap and weak.

Well, I just sent mine back to Tmobile for a new one.
Hinge became looser over the few weeks of owning it.
Phone would reboot on it's own from time to time.
Force Closed on apps all the time.
Signal would come in and out.
Don't let what I said scare you. I'm sure I just got a really bad apple, err... phone. I love the phone very much, and hopefully the new one works better. It's a really fast little ****er, no lie!

It does what every phone does and it doesn't do what its not meant to do "drive your car? Hopefully in 5 more years" As 3g or hspa, its deffenitely faster than the iphone 4 or any 3g phone "I live next to philly so I get good service, and I home tested myself since you can't blv ppl this days cuz they lie too much". The weight is cute it makes you feel like you have a 550$ hardware. Only thing I don't like is the opening screen, I thought it should be more solid and have a bit more preassure in it. Overall, I personally like it more than vibrant, feels like a more androidish phone. Only thing I desire is to get my hands on some htc sence.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

This is my first smartphone, so I'm pretty excited about what it can do. Only thing I'd really change right now is the SMS notice. The LED flash needs to either be constant (my preference) or much more frequent than it's currently set now. I can't believe that slipped by in UI testing.

Hmm, thanks for the help so far, you guys are really helpful. I've been playing the waiting game with Android since it launched. So many features are always 'right around the corner' and should be implemented any minute now (higher resolutions as rumored in Gingerbread, Tegra 2/ARM9, Super AMOLED on non-Samsung devices,
BUT, hardware keyboards are way too rare nowadays and this keyboard seems to have been executed quite well. Again, rare.
It's very scary to import a device that could end up with a wobbly hinge or repeated resets... but honestly other than the weight and the rootkit, this phone is extremely appealing. Looks dead sexy too.

It is sexy as hell. With that said, I'm on my second because I wanted the better deal from Costco.....100 vs 200
My first one started rebooting on its own (at least it restarted-my captivate shut down and wouldn't turn back on automatically) and now this one has the screen flicker problem when the brightness is set to low. Ill exchange it.
Overall this phone is the best phone I've had since the iPhone was the latest greatest.
Shipping it in with no option to return would make me nervous.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Hmm. Maybe I'll get the Desire Z instead. I'll give it a week or so to see if these have less problems.

- Are there any showstopping problems I should know about with this device?
Not any that I've noticed yet. Build quality throughout the initial release may be an issue- my first G2 had a cracked space bar, weak hinge, and after having the battery die in 6 hours, wouldn't charge or even turn on. The one I've got now? Perfect.
- Any features you felt disappointed not to have, such as HDMI?
Colored notification LED's (whether that's on the speaker or around the track pad), ability to root
- Overall, do you feel like the addition of the keyboard is worth it? Is the extra bulk (thickness, weight) a worthy tradeoff? Do the keys feel too cramped?
The keys most certainly don't feel cramped- it's a very, very spacious keyboard. I personally haven't used it very much, since I'm used to Swype, but the times I have used it (for typing URL's, long emails, or long texts) I've found it very comfortable and easy to use.
- Does the phone feel too heavy? Can you listen to music while jogging without it feeling way too bulky?
No way, I absolutely love the weight of this phone. It feels expensive, if you know what I mean. If you can find a phone with a strong hinge, the build quality feels absolutely fantastic. I don't job, so I can't tell you if it's good for that, but I can't imagine it would be very good for jogging without securing it to yourself in some way.
Hope this helps! This is the first phone that I've bought and truly been completely satisfied with out of the box. Aside from the rooting issues, this phone is perfect.

I absolutely love it! The thinkg flies! My only issues are no wifi hotspot yet and a few radio issues. These two things will be addressed in an ota update so I'm not too worried about it.

I'm really really loving mine. Had the G1 first, then the N1. Haven't had any of the hinge problems or random reboots. Screen is sharp, phone is super snappy (more so then the N1) and feels/looks like an expensive, proper business phone.
The keyboard is nice and got tons of really positive reviews. I personally liked the G1 keyboard better because it had dedicated number keys and overall seemed faster to type on.
As for negatives, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the crappy loudspeaker yet. I'd google some reviews of the speaker first if that factor is important to you.
Overall its a great device and I am very satisfied with it. Having said that I also didn't have any of the problems other users complained about. If you get one that works like mine I think you'd fall equally in love with it.
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I just recently got the G2 about two days ago and I love it! I previously had the Blackberry Pearl for a few years and thought it was time for an upgrade. This is my first Android phone and so far, it's wonderful. I don't have the loose hinge issue or any other visible problems.
Just still getting used to it, looking for the good apps that'll tickle my funny bone, and reading more on "rooting" and the like. I'm enjoying my experience.
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The Good:
-Speedy, apps launch quickly and the phone is very smooth
-Great size, form factor
-Decent screen and brightness
-GOOD keyboard
-Battery life was impressive
The Bad:
-All three I had (yes, I ended up taking the last one back too) did the reboots in low service areas
-On my morning drive, my HD2 never drops my call. The G2 would drop in 3 places every day
-The hinge was very poorly done, and as someone who started the HTC keyboard phones with the Tytn-II, Touch Pro, and Touch Pro 2, I know they can get it right. This was just a stupid, stupid design.
-No 4gb of storage
-What the hell is with the trackpad? Can we just ditch it and save a bit of space?
I could have looked past the hinge issue, but the obvious radio issues combined with the DRM like protection of the ROM, I decided that TMOUS and HTC could shove it with this phone.

Swapped my Focus for a Quantum

Call me crazy, but I went in to AT&T today and swapped them out. I was really interested in having a physical keyboard, and was much more impressed with the build quality of the LG.
If you have any questions about the device, feel free to ask and I'll answer what I can.

I know what you mean, I came from a Galaxy S Vibrant to the Quantum and the LG blows the Vibrant out of the water in terms of build quality, the Vibrant felt like a cheap toy in comparison.

Yea I'm really loving the keyboard. Probably the best one I've used on a mobile phone yet. Overall solid build with just the right amount of heft.

dougp.me said:
Call me crazy, but I went in to AT&T today and swapped them out. I was really interested in having a physical keyboard, and was much more impressed with the build quality of the LG.
If you have any questions about the device, feel free to ask and I'll answer what I can.
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I didn't play with it as long as i wanted. But how is the keyboard, as far as a fast typer?. Example if you slide your finger across the keyboard. The asdfghjkl; how well does it pick up. Do it leave some letters out? Hope you can make out what im Trying to ask lol. I hope it has a better keyboard than lets say some issues with the epic 4g keyboard.

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I didn't play with it as long as i wanted. But how is the keyboard, as far as a fast typer?. Example if you slide your finger across the keyboard. The asdfghjkl; how well does it pick up. Do it leave some letters out? Hope you can make out what im Trying to ask lol. I hope it has a better keyboard than lets say some issues with the epic 4g keyboard.
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The only thing I can compare it to are portrait keyboards like a Treo - but it's good for a wider keyboard.
Here's a test by line for you:
Qwertyuiop
Asdfghjkl
Zxcvbnm
1234567890
@#$%&()-\
!;:'"?/
No issues it seems! =D

it picks up letters without a problem, but i find the keys a little too spaced and the FN/caps buttons don't illuminate, shows up on screen...Still very satisfied with the Quantum, it's very fast in comparisson to my 8925, but i like the tilt keyboard better.

Thanks well the keyboard seems nice. I still got 5 more months before i decide on getting one.

Doug,
Given that you first used the Focus, how exactly does the Quantum's 3.5" TFT display stand up to the Focus's 4" Super AMOLED?
The Quantum stands out to me for some reason and one of the only real concerns I have is how much I'm giving up on the screen front if I go with the Quantum. Did you feel like you downgraded on the display when you booted up the Quantum?
Appreciate it!

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Doug,
Given that you first used the Focus, how exactly does the Quantum's 3.5" TFT display stand up to the Focus's 4" Super AMOLED?
The Quantum stands out to me for some reason and one of the only real concerns I have is how much I'm giving up on the screen front if I go with the Quantum. Did you feel like you downgraded on the display when you booted up the Quantum?
Appreciate it!
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Short answer, I do not feel like I downgraded.
Long answer - while the SAMOLED's look great, they have their shortcomings. They're 16-bit only, so there is banding (noticeable, given the size.) Their battery life isn't spectacular, but that could potentially be due to the size of the battery. Since the resolution isn't different, things tend to look sharper on the 3.5" - also, brightness is all personal preference. I thought the SAMOLED was way too bright for me.

Thanks for your time, Doug!

Does the battery life on the LG compare to the Focus? The Focus seems to have great battery life so I don't to give that up if I switch. I am mainly concerned with the sound quality of the Focus. Also, I am worried they won't be able to find a good SD Card for the phone. I think the Focus is the only phone that can combine two different types of memory (NAND and SD-card). I am not sure the OS can handle the speed differential without a software patch to slow down the reads/writes of the NAND so there is no difference between it and the SD-Card.
I saw in the MobileTechReview.com review that the screen sharpness is not that good. What are your thoughts?
Also, how is the sound quality of the phone? Is the speaker loud? Does the earpiece have enough volume?
Thanks in advance for your time and answers. There are not too many good reviews of the phone.
JS

Tested all 3 AT&T devices
After reading many of the reviews on the at&t WP7 offerings I thought what I wanted was the Samsung Focus.
Last week end I spent a couple of hours playing with the phones in the AT&T store. I currently have an htc Fuze and I wanted to stay with htc, but after playing with the Surround I was disappointed with the speakers. The heft was not worth it for the sound.
There are many in my family who are of the iPhone faithful and I have played with their devices many times and am able to type with their on screen keyboards without much trauma. The reviews said the Focus keyboard was as good as the iPhone. The Focus was fun to play with; I liked the 4 inch screen, but my fat fingers could not work the on screen keyboard. I spent quite a while trying to type in both portrait and landscape and I had difficulty getting even one word right. Unfortunately, Focus is out.
At first the LG was of no interest because of the small 3.5 inch screen; I didn't even realize it had a slide out keyboard. I wanted an AT&T WP7 device and the first two, after playing with them for a while, simply were not going to work. When I picked up the LG Quantum the build quality was obvious from the first touch. It felt perfect! To my surprise, I pushed on the case and out popped this very smooth hard keyboard. I was hoping that I could graduate from a hard keyboard after using my kid's iPhones, but after sliding out the LG keyboard I easily typed out a paragraph with no errors! It even has arrow keys which I was unable to find on the soft keyboard which made the much needed editing even more frustrating. I loved the feel of the LG!
After reading many online reviews and a couple of hours of utube videos, I ordered the LG Quantum for $80 from CellularDeals.com. I am now eagerly awaiting its delivery...

is there an app on the quantum that'll let you use the camera flash as a flashlight?
I saw a comment somewhere that indicated there was, but didn't specify if it was homebrew or not.

Quantum Screen Response
gillbell said:
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I now have my Quantum; the screen is the same size as an iPhone and not many iOS users complain about its size.
It seems that sometimes the screen is unresponsive, tap, tap, and nothing happens. I didn't notice it in the att store, but I do now. It may be my inexperience with a full capacitive touch screen, but, for example, if I touch the little arrow on the Home screen to access the app list, nothing happens. I have to swipe the screen to the left instead. The other arrow works intermittently also.
If anyone else has experience a similar unresponsive touch screen, please comment. I could be my unit needs to be replaced.

hey all! i thought id throw in my .02, as i won a quantum, and it arrived the other day! FWIW; i have worked for at&t for well over a decade, and couldn't begin to list the devices that i've had in my posession. however i can say that in 3 years i've rotated through an iphone3g, htc tilt 2, htc aria (which i still am using), samsung captivate, and now the lg. let me state for the record that i'm not a fan of lg phones. in fact i was rather disapointed to find that the quantum was the device i "won", as it was not my first (or second) choice if i were to purchase a wm7 device new. that opinion changed the moment i held, and fired, this beauty up. its nothing short of solid, well built, and highly functional.
this device is as responsive as any other capatacitive screen device ive owned yet...and maybe more so. typing on this device screen is accurate, and percise, even without the haptic feedback some devices offer. i do miss this option, but its not a deal breaker. the color is richer than i expected, considering its not the samoled screens some other devices offer. its size seemed to be a draw back at first glance, compaired to the smasung and htc, but has quickly become a non issue. the coating on the screen is oil phobic, like the iphone3gs, and cleans up quickly. summary: very impressed!
the keyboard...oh the keyboard...
ive never really liked having a physical keyboard. maybe ive become spoiled over the years; maybe since my first "smart phone" (htc sx66), nobody seemed to make one that felt solid. well, ive changed my tune. from the first solid "snap" of the board for service to my fingers, ive been a convert. this is not the crap lg keyboard they have loaded in their other devices. this one is clearly their way of stepping up to the plate, and showing that lg can, in fact, compete in the highly competitive smartphone device market. IMO, the addition of the function and caps buttons away from the main board body seem to make sense, and were a welcome addition. it seems mine dosent have the issue ive read here of a uneven back light. i was able to text in the darkness of my favoriate tavern last night without fuss. all the buttons lit evenly and just bright enough for my aging eyes to see without being over saturated, or needing to squint. granted, it darkenes a bit quick for my liking, im sure future wm7 updates will open more posibilities to adjust this. summary: quite impressed.
call clairity, speaker volume, bluetooth connectivity and battery life are all (mostly)exceeding my expacations. i say "mostly" because the battery seems to not quite make it a full day yet on a full charge. but to be fair, none of the devices i listed above ever really made it on a full charge from bell to bell. ive noticed its network strength is as strong as my aria is, and better than my iphone was (shocker). mulitiple bleutooth devices were added, and used without so much as a wimper. i would like a bit more sound volume (because im a touch deaf in one ear), or at least some sort of equalizer function...but thats more wm7 than lg. summary: really damn impressed!
the size, weight and build quality have (obviously) made me change my mind about lgs ability to produce a viable device that will likely see much use from me before it gets replaced...or should i say "upgraded"? good, solid and dense; it dosent feel like a toy that will crumple under my usage, or break if i get a bit carried away. it feels like a productivity tool...which is exactly how i intend to use it!
I hope this helps provide some perspective...and slightly more than .02!
ciao!

I went from a Tilt2 to a HTC Surround... HATED not having the slide-out keyboard, got an LG Quantum... LOVE IT!!!

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DamnageD said:
...summary: quite impressed.
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DamnageD said:
...call clarity, speaker volume, Bluetooth connectivity and battery life are all (mostly) exceeding my expectations. I say "mostly" because the battery seems to not quite make it a full day yet on a full charge...
ciao!
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My Quantum was delivered on 7 December and last night, 20 December, was only the fourth charge including the first one out of the box. Last night I talked with my brother in Oregon for about three hours and the little battery icon was pretty small.
My wife is using the Quantum most of the time and her usage is lower than mine, but she makes and receives calls all day, does a few text messages and when we are driving around, every time she sees blue lights or hears a siren she goes onto her favorite websites, the sheriff’s scanner and fire rescue site. She has her favorite websites pinned to the home screen at the bottom and can logon in seconds anytime with a slid and a tap.
Because of a posting mishap, it is now after 11pm 22 December and the battery icon still says the Quantum has about 1/3 charge after two days of use.

rossi32s said:
I went from a Tilt2 to a HTC Surround... HATED not having the slide-out keyboard, got an LG Quantum... LOVE IT!!!
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so, did you notice phone get too hot when charged ?

I did not have the HTC surround long enough to charge it more than 2x. My LG Quantum does not get hot during charging.
I had to charge my Tilt 2 every day since I use outlook with exchange and the connection is always open. I have the same setup with the Quantum and only charge it every 2-3 days.

Nexus One or G2 --- Worth it?

Currently using a Nexus One, actually have 2 of them. Have the opportunity to make a straight trade for a G2 for one of my N1's.
Other than the keyboard and "4G" connection, is there anything that really is different about these hardware wise?
I know the N1 will get updates faster, but with the use of custom roms this does not affect me. Also, dont have much use for a keyboard, so would this even be a beneficial trade in anyway?
Guess i am just a little confused, any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

G2 is pretty much better in every way except the screen. I have both.

I had a Nexus One and then got a G2 in a BOGO offer at T-Mo. I find myself using the Nexus more. The G2 has some weird issues, like updates to Google Apps that are pre-installed causing force closes (Google Earth, for one, and I can't install the new version of Maps because it constantly runs and shows up as 80% on battery usage when I check to see why it's draining). I also hate how bulky/heavy it is (and it's more annoying since I don't use the keyboard). I have small hands so I find it more comfortable to hold my Nexus. If you use a case (which I need, I tend to drop phones) the phone doesn't stay fully closed due to how the cases snap on.
I guess it depends on your usage. Since you'll be keeping a Nexus, then maybe it'll be fine. If you won't miss the second Nexus, then go for it.

Thanks for the input so far.
I think one of the unknown factors that i am trying to decide is....will the N1 get updates as long as the G2 will? I know the N1 is a developers phone, but with the NS coming out, do any of you think the N1 will stop getting updates although the hardware may very well still support it? With the G2 being 6-8 months newer, will it get updates longer in the future than the N1?
I know we really dont know the answer to this, but it would be interesting to see what you guys think.

Also keep in mind that the G2 is SIGNIFICANTLY heavier than the nexus one. i think it's almost a half-again heavier and that can be a big deal.

If you are going to have a N1 extra I say do it! I have a N1 and have used a G2 before. I hate keyboards built into a phone but that is just my preference. I would not worry about the N1 loosing support because of the NS the N1 I think will always be supported and updated if not always at least until the N1 can not handle newer Android OS. Only then will I upgrade to what ever Nexus is available at that time.
Trade and if you hate it find someone who will trade you for a NS or a N1 again!!

In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.

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In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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I think the keyboard is what really makes it the G1's successor.. people were waiting for that.

this is a tough decision. i love the G2 because it's build quality and materials are just like the nexus one, which i love. but i never use a physical keyboard, so that's wasted space to me. but the g2 has the better snapdragon CPU and better GPU, but the nexus one has a better form factor.
since you will still have a nexus one after the trade, go for the g2.

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In contrast to Carlos' opinion, I would actually say the screen is BETTER than our N1s. My gf has a G2 and its screen is much sharper than mine. If you're into gaming, I'm guessing the multitouch would be better too. On the downside, it's bulkier because of the unnecessary keyboard.
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The screen is sharper because it is a SLCD like some of the newer N1's, but it uses a back light so the blacks aren't as deep as our AMOLED N1s. My Co-Worker has one and I like it.... but would I trade it for my N1... no.
The G2 is noticeably heavier and thicker. The optical sensor works and supposedly it has a "trackball light" notification around it but I haven't seen it in action. While I dislike keyboard phones, it is comparable to the Nexus. They truly look like brothers.
I don't know if a G2 could replace my Nexus, but if you have 2 N1's and looking for something different then it might be worth a trade.

You guys have been really helpful. Some really good points have been made about both the N1 and G2.
Now i gotta sleep on it and figure out what i decide to do. Will let you guys know!
Leaning towards keeping the second N1 right now....

The G2 is Free on T-Mobile right now if that helps your decision.

yes free G2 and call 611 and say cancel and if you have been a long time customer and paid your bills on time you can ask for the $20 data plan.

I have both phones and I'm thinking about going back to my Nexus one. Few bugs with the G2 have been bothering me. GPS takes awhile to start up and some map issues, which is a big deal for me.
Rooted, they both run very smoothly. I like the weight and the size of the N1 compared to the G2. Less obvious in the pocket and easier to slide out. [Rooting on the N1 was a cake walk compared to the numerous steps and complications with the G2.]
I only use the keyboard while driving (ya, I know it's a bad habit that I need to break) but I can feel that over long uses of the keyboard can lead to future problems more specifically in your thumbs. The hinge gets loose, I've dropped the phone a few times and the screen always snaps open.
What makes me want to use the N1 more is the trackball alerts. G2 is only limited to white and I get tired of checking to see if it's something important or if it's something I can ignore. Also the screen on the N1 seems to be better than the G2 along with the auto brightness sensor.
Girls seem to like playing with my N1 more... just saying

Same dilemma
Well I have the same question. First off, I appreciate this post in general, everyone definitely seems to have good input and good opinions that they back up well. I have kind of the same "issue" so to speak. I am getting a new G2 tomorrow, but I know someone who is willing to give me 100 dollars plus a mint condition n1 for it, what do you guys think I should do? I'm just afraid that in terms of day-day function, the n1 will be slower. Any info is much appreciated!

I considered getting a G2 for a while as well. A few things turned me off:
1. The size of the thing compared to a N1 - this thing is a hefty brick!
2. "Pure" Google, not really...seeing how TMobile conveniently removed tethering, but this can be solved through root
3. The MMS bugs
4. The N1 Car/Home dock are just too slick to give up.

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I have both phones and I'm thinking about going back to my Nexus one. Few bugs with the G2 have been bothering me. GPS takes awhile to start up and some map issues, which is a big deal for me.
Rooted, they both run very smoothly. I like the weight and the size of the N1 compared to the G2. Less obvious in the pocket and easier to slide out. [Rooting on the N1 was a cake walk compared to the numerous steps and complications with the G2.]
I only use the keyboard while driving (ya, I know it's a bad habit that I need to break) but I can feel that over long uses of the keyboard can lead to future problems more specifically in your thumbs. The hinge gets loose, I've dropped the phone a few times and the screen always snaps open.
What makes me want to use the N1 more is the trackball alerts. G2 is only limited to white and I get tired of checking to see if it's something important or if it's something I can ignore. Also the screen on the N1 seems to be better than the G2 along with the auto brightness sensor.
Girls seem to like playing with my N1 more... just saying
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yeah i just cant stress enough how excellent the color trackball is on the n1. having color blink in succession, so when i'm at work and i see it blink from red to green to blue to yellow to cyan, and instantly KNOW what each of my 5 messages are, is truly useful. its more useful then anyone without it could ever understand, and its highly under rated i think by many. it may sound cheesy to say "i like colors", but talk about functional and cool at the same time. the perfectly centered nipple just looks classy.

[Q] Pros and cons of the DesireZ?

Hello guys! currently I am on contract with a HTC Desire, and I will be getting an upgrade soon and have been looking at the Desire Z for the slide out keyboard and more pocket-sized shape in comparison with the massive DHD screen. And I've lost interest in the Sensation due to lack of rootability
So my question is this: Is the slide out keyboard prone to snapping/failing? I ask this because once upon a time i had an LG KS360 which i loved for the same reason: the sliding keyboard w/ QWERTY layout. Only thing is, about 7 months of ownership resulted in a broken keyboard. There was no hope...no response, rotation wouldn't always work when sliding it out so i really don't want to go through that 'pain' again

Pros and Cons
I'm using this DZ (Asia version) for about..well...8 months since Dec. last year and there're some pros and cons of its
Pros :
- The body : stylish...i really like the Z-hinge, it's verrrrryyy cooollllllllllllllllllll (and manly too )
- The keyboard : perfect for email & sms-ing
- Hardware : Insane overclocking , i'm using unity mod rite now and it acts like a miracle
- HTC sense is unbeatable
The DZ can be protected by otterbox commuter protection hard case ..you can google it too..I'm satisfy with this case. Don't worry much about the Z-hinge. I used to drop the DZ twice (about 2-3 times) but it's ok
Cons :
- Heavy (in compare with others smartphone)
- I don't like the tungsten color ! => it's black now with the otterbox case.
- A bit outdated at the moment...
Personal Opinion

Very individual preference... For me it is my 1st smartphone with hardware keyboard, and now I'm waiting for a new one with duo core to come out... Then I'll consider it...
Pros:
Hardware Keyboard
Sexy hinge
Aluminium Unibody
A lot of Rom support from private developers n compilers
HTC Sense
Somewhat rarely ppl will buy, because of it's weight
Physical camera shutter key
Cons:
Heavy
Hinge somewhat a lil unreliable (touchwood mine done have much problem)
Battery, I hope for slightly better (around 1600mAh)
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I love this phone. Went from an HTC s720 to a HTC Hero and now to the HTC Desire Z and it, IMO, still can compete with most phones on the market despite its age. Personally, I like the extra weight of the DZ, gives me confidence in the unit that I'm holding and lets me know that it's sturdy. I've dropped it from my nightstand afew times (before I got the otterbox) and came out unscathed.
Pros:
Screen (not too big, not to small)
Form Factor (fits perfectly in the palm of one hand and no need to reach for anything)
Hinge (Never seen a hinge like this, loose from the factory, but there are tutorials on how to rectify)
Hardware keyboard (nuff said)
Trackpad
3.5mm audio out
Dedicated camera button
Aluminium body/design (watch out for the battery cover, the film they apply at the factory is weak, but again, there are some sick tutorials out there to polish and clean it)
Cons:
800Mhz from the factory (not really a problem once you're rooted and etc with a custom rom and kernel, I have mine set at 1.3GHz)
No FFC (non-issue really, just another bell i'd like to have to make the phone complete)
Battery (Stock is weak, barely last me a day. Invest in a Mugen 1800mAh and you won't regret it)
Two tone front (would have preferred they keep the front all black or all silver, not both)
IMO, the Pros of this device kill the cons. Every con for the DZ has a fix or workaround for it. Most fixes cost less than $10 and only some of your time. Again, despite it's age, I would still recommend this if you are looking for a powerful phone with a hardware keyboard.

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And I've lost interest in the Sensation due to lack of rootability
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fyi:the sensation got root and s-off in the last couple of days. There's a guide for it here: Guide

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fyi:the sensation got root and s-off in the last couple of days. There's a guide for it here: Guide
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Oh really? hmm...last time i checked it was only temp-root! nevertheless, I still feel more 'drawn' towards the desire Z. Anyways, I'll see what happens. Thanks guys!

I personally wouldn't get invested into he DesireZ at this point in the year. It has been out for a long time (in the smartphone world) and I'd rather spend my money on a more current device with up-to-date specs that you'll get a longer relevant use out of.
Not to say that the DZ is a bad phone, but it definitely is fading in its spec relevance. The hinge is durable, but definitely not as solid as a flat slider type hinge. If you really don't need a keyboard though, you can do better for the $$.

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I personally wouldn't get invested into he DesireZ at this point in the year. It has been out for a long time (in the smartphone world) and I'd rather spend my money on a more current device with up-to-date specs that you'll get a longer relevant use out of.
Not to say that the DZ is a bad phone, but it definitely is fading in its spec relevance. The hinge is durable, but definitely not as solid as a flat slider type hinge. If you really don't need a keyboard though, you can do better for the $$.
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agree... if you have a really good deal then it might be a different story...
i got mine about 5 months ago... i can say it should be staying with me till the market got a new one with dual core and hardware keyboard...

If your in canada, id wait for the "milestone 3" that bell will be announcing shortly. (Droid3 but little different) or do what I'm doing and wait for rogers to release the samsung galaxy 2 slide, due out sometime this fall, it looks sick as hell google it there's leak photos already. But the dz is awesome I love it, but I would rather a more solid slide mechanism.
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All the negative hype about the z-hinge is completely overblown. I've been on here since December, and I think I've heard of one guy who broke the hinge. That is probably LESS failures than a more traditional slider-type keyboard.
Some people complain the hinge is too loose, but its designed to open and close with minimal effort. If you haven't already, try out the hinge in person, and see if you like how it works. Personally, I've had my DZ for about 8 months now. While I originally wished it stayed in the closed position a little tighter; its still as sturdy feeling as the day I got it. And I really don't think anymore about how "loose" the hinge is.

I only miss a front camera.
I love this device!
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The Z-Hinge is tougher than it's given credit for. I mean, you can go into any Best-Buy or Futureshop where phones are on display, and where all the slider phones are loosened up and beaten to crap, the Z-Hinge on the Desire Z always still works fine. I've had my phone for 4 months now, and the Z-Hinge is still just like it was the day I got it. Slightly loose, but that's by design, it's gotten no looser.

Thanks for posting this thread
This is just another reason to buy the desire z
Im gettin it next week!
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