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What do you guys think about this? Would you trade your nexus one for it?
http://www.mobilewhack.com/google-nexus-two-pictured/

Um.. unless it has a better processor, then.. I think I'm ok with my Nexus One.

Kinda ugly. I'll stick with my N1 for the time being. I can't see a phone topping it for a few months.

is that really what its gonna look like?! that looks like ****!

Until they release a flexi bendable phone with 1.5Ghz+ I'm not upgrading

yuck, that thing is hideous... personally i dont like the droid and i typically love physical keyboards over touch screen...
jamesyb0i said:
Until they release a flexi bendable phone with 1.5Ghz+ I'm not upgrading
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thats not going to happen for awhile

why cant they put dual snapdragons in one phone?!!?

Isn't that just an artist's rendering? I don't see any capacitive buttons. Not digging the look either, but the keyboard looks superior to the Droids.

sasha101 said:
why cant they put dual snapdragons in one phone?!!?
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like dual core or a pair of snapdragon processors?
dual core is coming within a year. a pair of the processors like the N1 has in one chassis would set the phone on fire and have terrible battery life.

uansari1 said:
Isn't that just an artist's rendering? I don't see any capacitive buttons. Not digging the look either, but the keyboard looks superior to the Droids.
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Yeah it was just a theory...Engadget did a thing on it

this thing has been going around the web for like a year now. being called the google phone the tmobile this and the sprint that. Anyway i think its fugly. keeping my N1

if what you say is true, then i guess no one will consider upgrading coz the new phone looks total crap...

Oh god, not that thing again. It's not a Nexus Two.
And it mings.

Seriously all these phones with the keyboards and D-pad need to have the D-pad on the left, it just dont feel right on the right hand side lol
its like playin the playstation with the D-pad on the right hand side, just wouldnt feel right lol

i for one would appreciate a physical keyboard. but it better come with something else too. like more ram, a better processor, or a tilt screen.

Im good with my nexus, we haven't even begun to find out what are the capabilities of the nexus yet.

That's quite possibly the ugliest phone I've ever seen. Sticking with my N1.

that looks like a droid 2... yuck

Glad to see HTC finally acquired motorola's design team.

Well, trying to make things positive..
Maybe it is simply a mockup, and the final design will surely be different?..

If not the Nexus S, what will it be?

I can hold it until Q1 of 2011. If Nexus S isn't worth replacing my Nexus One, what do you think will it be?

I won't be buying the S, even if I was up for an upgrade. No notification LEDs, no external SD card support, no significant hardware upgrades.
I'll wait and see what the dual core world has in store for us in the near future. I do like the LG Star a lot.

Also, for all those in the market, I'd at least wait until CES in January before making any decisions.
Unless you can't wait.

gibosn6594 said:
I won't be buying the S, even if I was up for an upgrade. No notification LEDs, no external SD card support, no significant hardware upgrades.
I'll wait and see what the dual core world has in store for us in the near future. I do like the LG Star a lot.
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I never really paid much attention to the LG Star, but now since I keep hearing it being mentioned, I did a quick Google search.
It definitely destroys the NS it seems in terms of hardware..

boring device, I was expecting at least a keyboard, I might jump to sprint and get the EVO, this is my desired device so far:
-qwerty keyboard
-Call End hardware buttons, front hardware butons for home back and menu
-4" screen

I'm holding out for something made by HTC... Dual core with a decent gpu... Gingerbread or better.. no keyboard needed... a decent external speaker.. and 4"+ display with a better resolution than wvga.. hdmi out .. 4g etc..
i can wait... my N1 is more than adequate for the time being

Well, I plan to stay on Tmobile so I guess Im going to keep waiting as I agree with many others, The S is not a big enough improvement over the Original.

On Tmo as well with N1.
I'm thinking of grabbing up a MT4G for now, bc I'm looking for a new device. The Nexus One is an awesome device, it's just that as a year approches, I need something new. The MT4G is will be a great interim phone until something with:
Dual Core
4+" AMOLED/SLCD
768MB+ RAM
2.3 Stock
HSPA+ support
and why not throw a front facing camera just so people can't hate on it.
Oh and made my HTC!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/nexus-s-will-drop-super-amoled-in-favor-of-super-clear-lcd-in-ru/
If this is true and if it is available outside of Russia, then NexusS with LCD looks to me like the interesting option again. Even despite of boring amorphous rounded shape and cheap plasticky feel.
I simply hate the grainy looks and pentile artefacts of the current SAMOLED generation.

Possibly the PlayStation phone. Battery life would have to be killer.

Damn... I would rather it have a super clear LCD too... hate the RGBG pixel arrangement =(
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/nexus-s-will-drop-super-amoled-in-favor-of-super-clear-lcd-in-ru/
If this is true and if it is available outside of Russia, then NexusS with LCD looks to me like the interesting option again. Even despite of boring amorphous rounded shape and cheap plasticky feel.
I simply hate the grainy looks and pentile artefacts of the current SAMOLED generation.
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An Orion chip will seal the deal for me .

moto olympus could be a nice option

I don't get the HTC hype from everyone.
Sure, they used nice materials for the N1 exterior, but the screen is pathetic, the power button eventually fails, the volume buttons fail, and the speaker is terrible.

gibosn6594 said:
I don't get the HTC hype from everyone.
Sure, they used nice materials for the N1 exterior, but the screen is pathetic, the power button eventually fails, the volume buttons fail, and the speaker is terrible.
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Exactly how long does it take for this to happen? Honestly I'm curious, I assume since I got it in March this would've happened already ._.

gibosn6594 said:
I don't get the HTC hype from everyone.
Sure, they used nice materials for the N1 exterior, but the screen is pathetic, the power button eventually fails, the volume buttons fail, and the speaker is terrible.
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I have to agree, other than the really nice exterior of the N1, nothing else is really that great. The speakers are just HORRIBLE - and the screen is just unbelievable. I am happy to have some plastic to be honest if it means a very good screen and speakers.

ma2k5 said:
I have to agree, other than the really nice exterior of the N1, nothing else is really that great. The speakers are just HORRIBLE - and the screen is just unbelievable. I am happy to have some plastic to be honest if it means a very good screen and speakers.
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Funny this.
That "unbelievable" AMOLED screen is actually produced by the same Samsung and was rawed as the ultimate and absolutely gorgeous AMOLED, the final answer to all the OLED problems. Then couple of months later came Super-Amoled and it is the same story once again.
Just wait for Ultra-Amoled and all the forums around the world will immediately explode with comments stating, that those S-Amoleds are just plain horrible

ma2k5 said:
I have to agree, other than the really nice exterior of the N1, nothing else is really that great. The speakers are just HORRIBLE - and the screen is just unbelievable. I am happy to have some plastic to be honest if it means a very good screen and speakers.
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It may not happen at all, but it's a pretty widespread and well known N1 issue.
Mine has just started to get pretty bad and I got mine in January.

Got a G1, because it was supported by the google and the community, got a Nexus 1 for the same reasons. I will not be getting the NS, and will wait til whatever google declares as the successor to that.
It will easily be 12 months away, but I think I can manage with the N1 until then.

Eclair~ said:
I never really paid much attention to the LG Star, but now since I keep hearing it being mentioned, I did a quick Google search.
It definitely destroys the NS it seems in terms of hardware..
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LG Star looks interesting, but doesn't LG produce low class phones ? I hope it will have vanilla Android without some custom LG UI.

Getting my G2 tomorrow! Very excited!

It finally will arrive from the buyer. Can't wait to root it and get some more CM6 action. Also can't wait to get my Nexus on eBay.
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Grats!
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Congrats pal.

So are you selling nexus s or one on ebay to get g2?. If yes, why? I have nexus s and thinking about exchanging it for g2.
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nohcho said:
So are you selling nexus s or one on ebay to get g2?. If yes, why? I have nexus s and thinking about exchanging it for g2.
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That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
Since they're both fairly equal on the specs level (minus the above nit-picks), I'd rather have the extra $250 and the G2's quirks over the Nexus's quirks. I'm also expecting a lot of "next-gen" Android devices to be unveiled at CES, so I'm probably only going to have this phone for 4-6 months anyways. The Nexus is just a little too pricey for something that isn't far enough beyond the G2; they're both essentially in the same hardware "generation."

TheBiles said:
That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
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I can't possibly agree with all your + and - points....
AMOLED is WAY oversaturated. Nice in theory, but doesn't actually look right. It is quite a ways from being on par with SLCD for image quality.
On the VISION, the smaller screen is a ***PLUS***. I actually find the Vision's screen to still be too big. The DREAM's touch screen was a good size. I would never own a phone with a 4+ as it just gets to be too much stretching for 1-handed operation.
Also, being heavier and larger is also a POSITIVE. As an example, try to see how long a ford focus will last out on a battlefield against tanks and machine guns. A phone has to be sturdy and have a substantial mass to it because it IS used in a hostile environment -- temperature changes, water, being dropped, etc. It is also easier to hold when it has some weight. The tiny and low weight junkies are seriously confused people. Its not as if the thing is as big as a cell phone from the 80's.

dhkr123 said:
I can't possibly agree with all your + and - points....
AMOLED is WAY oversaturated. Nice in theory, but doesn't actually look right. It is quite a ways from being on par with SLCD for image quality.
On the VISION, the smaller screen is a ***PLUS***. I actually find the Vision's screen to still be too big. The DREAM's touch screen was a good size. I would never own a phone with a 4+ as it just gets to be too much stretching for 1-handed operation.
Also, being heavier and larger is also a POSITIVE. As an example, try to see how long a ford focus will last out on a battlefield against tanks and machine guns. A phone has to be sturdy and have a substantial mass to it because it IS used in a hostile environment -- temperature changes, water, being dropped, etc. It is also easier to hold when it has some weight. The tiny and low weight junkies are seriously confused people. Its not as if the thing is as big as a cell phone from the 80's.
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Relax. They were my own opinions.
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TheBiles said:
Relax. They were my own opinions.
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I am relaxed. I'm just helping to improve your perspective on the device you have chosen to own. I.e., you should feel even better! What you've chosen is, by FAR, the best phone out there.

Yep got mine last week, awesome phone..running gingerbread rom nicely
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I'm still using CM6.1.1 until we get an official CM7 RC. I just love my CM extras too much.
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I won't be touching CM7 on Vision until I know that it can be trusted. Phone has to actually work. Experimental stuff to happen on the Dream.

I finally took the plunge and I have ordered a Desire Z to arrive tomorrow. I almost bit the bullet and bought it at launch but during the delays in Europe, I read so much about the hinge issue and chickened out.
My Touch Pro 2 has developed the dreaded newton rings for the second time in 6months and I have sent it away to be repaired on warranty. I will sell it when it returns.
This situation forced me into buying a new phone and I looked at the Desire Z (again), Nexus S and Desire HD. I just couldnt bring myself to accept the size of the DHD. I have used phones with keyboards for the past 3 years and I dont think I can live without a keyboard. I went to Bestbuy on a few occassions to try out the touchscreen keyboard on the NS but it just didnt feel rght. I know how frustrated I got when I tried to type simple mesages on the screen of my TP2.
I decided on getting the DZ since the hinge 'problem' only surfaces when the phone is held in a ridiculous way you probably will never hold it in most real world situations. Anyway I bought it online so I have 7 days to return it if the hinge seems to be a really big problem.

TheBiles said:
That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
Since they're both fairly equal on the specs level (minus the above nit-picks), I'd rather have the extra $250 and the G2's quirks over the Nexus's quirks. I'm also expecting a lot of "next-gen" Android devices to be unveiled at CES, so I'm probably only going to have this phone for 4-6 months anyways. The Nexus is just a little too pricey for something that isn't far enough beyond the G2; they're both essentially in the same hardware "generation."
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This is one of the clearest break downs I've seen for choosing a G2. These are some of the reason I chose the G2. Plus I really feel like both the Nexus S and Gingerbread were a rush job for the Christmas dough.
That said, I almost got the Nexus S just for the resale value. Because, come april-may 2011 the G2 probably won't fetch more than $175-200 tops.
Oh well I saved money on this end.

lombardo8 said:
I have used phones with keyboards for the past 3 years and I dont think I can live without a keyboard. I went to Bestbuy on a few occassions to try out the touchscreen keyboard on the NS but it just didnt feel rght. I know how frustrated I got when I tried to type simple mesages on the screen of my TP2.
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I can't stand "traditional" touchscreen keyboards either, but Swype works really well. I am finding myself surprised at how often I use Swype instead of the hardware keyboard on my Vision. I still use the hardware keyboard for longer messages. But for my next phone, I may seriously consider a phone without a keyboard.

redpoint73 said:
I can't stand "traditional" touchscreen keyboards either, but Swype works really well. I am finding myself surprised at how often I use Swype instead of the hardware keyboard on my Vision. I still use the hardware keyboard for longer messages. But for my next phone, I may seriously consider a phone without a keyboard.
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That has to be a matter of personal preference. Swype, to me, was absolute garbage, so I deleted it.

dhkr123 said:
That has to be a matter of personal preference. Swype, to me, was absolute garbage, so I deleted it.
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Personal preference? Absolutely. But I'm surprised you would go so far as to call Swype "absolute garbage". What about it didn't you like? As a "regular" touchscreen keyboard, its seems just about as good as any other. As far as 'swiping' words, I find it very good at predicting the word I intended, even when I often know for fact that I didn't hit the letters exactly right.

redpoint73 said:
Personal preference? Absolutely. But I'm surprised you would go so far as to call Swype "absolute garbage". What about it didn't you like? As a "regular" touchscreen keyboard, its seems just about as good as any other. As far as 'swiping' words, I find it very good at predicting the word I intended, even when I often know for fact that I didn't hit the letters exactly right.
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Swype is the thing of gods. I couldn't use a software keyboard without it.

I tried Swpe on a colleagues Galaxy S and was very impressed. I could get used to using Swype but the problem is I type mainly in slang and a kind of english (african patois) which means I woud have to use the Swype keyboard like an ordinary keyboard most times.

lombardo8 said:
I tried Swpe on a colleagues Galaxy S and was very impressed. I could get used to using Swype but the problem is I type mainly in slang and a kind of english (african patois) which means I woud have to use the Swype keyboard like an ordinary keyboard most times.
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After you type the word once it will learn it.

What a phone! So so beautiful! That hinge is not an issue. Under no circumstances would I hold my phone the way that we see in all them videos on the internet.
ALK say on their website that u cant transfer copilot live 8 from a windows mobile to an android phone but its a big lie!. it was the first thing i installed and it works a treat. I have also downloaded angry birds, I know everyones going crazy about that so I thought i would join in. I am going to try and install Swype in a minute. I have only had the phone about 45 minutes and I am completely blown away. I was actually able to watch hustle on BBC iPlayer in my browser. Phone technolgy has grown in leaps and bounds since I bought my TP2.
Thank goodness I didnt allow those videos about the hinge put me off from buying this truly wonderful phone.

[Q] Pros and cons of the DesireZ?

Hello guys! currently I am on contract with a HTC Desire, and I will be getting an upgrade soon and have been looking at the Desire Z for the slide out keyboard and more pocket-sized shape in comparison with the massive DHD screen. And I've lost interest in the Sensation due to lack of rootability
So my question is this: Is the slide out keyboard prone to snapping/failing? I ask this because once upon a time i had an LG KS360 which i loved for the same reason: the sliding keyboard w/ QWERTY layout. Only thing is, about 7 months of ownership resulted in a broken keyboard. There was no hope...no response, rotation wouldn't always work when sliding it out so i really don't want to go through that 'pain' again

Pros and Cons
I'm using this DZ (Asia version) for about..well...8 months since Dec. last year and there're some pros and cons of its
Pros :
- The body : stylish...i really like the Z-hinge, it's verrrrryyy cooollllllllllllllllllll (and manly too )
- The keyboard : perfect for email & sms-ing
- Hardware : Insane overclocking , i'm using unity mod rite now and it acts like a miracle
- HTC sense is unbeatable
The DZ can be protected by otterbox commuter protection hard case ..you can google it too..I'm satisfy with this case. Don't worry much about the Z-hinge. I used to drop the DZ twice (about 2-3 times) but it's ok
Cons :
- Heavy (in compare with others smartphone)
- I don't like the tungsten color ! => it's black now with the otterbox case.
- A bit outdated at the moment...
Personal Opinion

Very individual preference... For me it is my 1st smartphone with hardware keyboard, and now I'm waiting for a new one with duo core to come out... Then I'll consider it...
Pros:
Hardware Keyboard
Sexy hinge
Aluminium Unibody
A lot of Rom support from private developers n compilers
HTC Sense
Somewhat rarely ppl will buy, because of it's weight
Physical camera shutter key
Cons:
Heavy
Hinge somewhat a lil unreliable (touchwood mine done have much problem)
Battery, I hope for slightly better (around 1600mAh)
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I love this phone. Went from an HTC s720 to a HTC Hero and now to the HTC Desire Z and it, IMO, still can compete with most phones on the market despite its age. Personally, I like the extra weight of the DZ, gives me confidence in the unit that I'm holding and lets me know that it's sturdy. I've dropped it from my nightstand afew times (before I got the otterbox) and came out unscathed.
Pros:
Screen (not too big, not to small)
Form Factor (fits perfectly in the palm of one hand and no need to reach for anything)
Hinge (Never seen a hinge like this, loose from the factory, but there are tutorials on how to rectify)
Hardware keyboard (nuff said)
Trackpad
3.5mm audio out
Dedicated camera button
Aluminium body/design (watch out for the battery cover, the film they apply at the factory is weak, but again, there are some sick tutorials out there to polish and clean it)
Cons:
800Mhz from the factory (not really a problem once you're rooted and etc with a custom rom and kernel, I have mine set at 1.3GHz)
No FFC (non-issue really, just another bell i'd like to have to make the phone complete)
Battery (Stock is weak, barely last me a day. Invest in a Mugen 1800mAh and you won't regret it)
Two tone front (would have preferred they keep the front all black or all silver, not both)
IMO, the Pros of this device kill the cons. Every con for the DZ has a fix or workaround for it. Most fixes cost less than $10 and only some of your time. Again, despite it's age, I would still recommend this if you are looking for a powerful phone with a hardware keyboard.

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And I've lost interest in the Sensation due to lack of rootability
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fyi:the sensation got root and s-off in the last couple of days. There's a guide for it here: Guide

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fyi:the sensation got root and s-off in the last couple of days. There's a guide for it here: Guide
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Oh really? hmm...last time i checked it was only temp-root! nevertheless, I still feel more 'drawn' towards the desire Z. Anyways, I'll see what happens. Thanks guys!

I personally wouldn't get invested into he DesireZ at this point in the year. It has been out for a long time (in the smartphone world) and I'd rather spend my money on a more current device with up-to-date specs that you'll get a longer relevant use out of.
Not to say that the DZ is a bad phone, but it definitely is fading in its spec relevance. The hinge is durable, but definitely not as solid as a flat slider type hinge. If you really don't need a keyboard though, you can do better for the $$.

martonikaj said:
I personally wouldn't get invested into he DesireZ at this point in the year. It has been out for a long time (in the smartphone world) and I'd rather spend my money on a more current device with up-to-date specs that you'll get a longer relevant use out of.
Not to say that the DZ is a bad phone, but it definitely is fading in its spec relevance. The hinge is durable, but definitely not as solid as a flat slider type hinge. If you really don't need a keyboard though, you can do better for the $$.
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agree... if you have a really good deal then it might be a different story...
i got mine about 5 months ago... i can say it should be staying with me till the market got a new one with dual core and hardware keyboard...

If your in canada, id wait for the "milestone 3" that bell will be announcing shortly. (Droid3 but little different) or do what I'm doing and wait for rogers to release the samsung galaxy 2 slide, due out sometime this fall, it looks sick as hell google it there's leak photos already. But the dz is awesome I love it, but I would rather a more solid slide mechanism.
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All the negative hype about the z-hinge is completely overblown. I've been on here since December, and I think I've heard of one guy who broke the hinge. That is probably LESS failures than a more traditional slider-type keyboard.
Some people complain the hinge is too loose, but its designed to open and close with minimal effort. If you haven't already, try out the hinge in person, and see if you like how it works. Personally, I've had my DZ for about 8 months now. While I originally wished it stayed in the closed position a little tighter; its still as sturdy feeling as the day I got it. And I really don't think anymore about how "loose" the hinge is.

I only miss a front camera.
I love this device!
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The Z-Hinge is tougher than it's given credit for. I mean, you can go into any Best-Buy or Futureshop where phones are on display, and where all the slider phones are loosened up and beaten to crap, the Z-Hinge on the Desire Z always still works fine. I've had my phone for 4 months now, and the Z-Hinge is still just like it was the day I got it. Slightly loose, but that's by design, it's gotten no looser.

Thanks for posting this thread
This is just another reason to buy the desire z
Im gettin it next week!
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HTC Hero 2012 (sort of)

So if you're still toting a HTC Hero and checking this forum then you love it as much as I do (I'll assume) and will be excited to see the phoenix which has risen from these legacy ashes. As HTC announces their new line of "One" products, I noticed a striking similarity between the Hero and the "One V". Unfortunately the specs are not that great but I'm just posting this for posterity.
"The One V is the least exciting model, a budget handset with a 3.7-inch 480x800 screen, a 1GHz processor, and only 4GB of storage. The One V also has the oddest body, with a curved, jutting bottom end hearkening back to the HTC Dream (also known as the T-Mobile G1, the first Android phone) and the HTC Legend."
Posted from Arstechnica

Yeah that looks like the legend definately. Not a bad phone at all..
Still waiting for the day I get rid of this beauty

Yeah same here, I am always tempting myself with the 'oh I'll just call in and see if they have any deals they can give me'. Fully knowing that I'll be in the store by the time I hang up. Really though, my phone works, and very well so it can't be justified to lay it to rest yet. Plus all the awesome this phone has given me I'm hoping for an epic tale to its end.

Sweeet But there has come lots of nice phone lately, both from HTC, LG and Huawei and soon Samsung comes as well I have no idea what brand my next phone will be

Not bad, but without trackball and/or any physical keys, curved bottom is just useless empty space in place where end of display should be.

viteq said:
Not bad, but without trackball and/or any physical keys, curved bottom is just useless empty space in place where end of display should be.
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I completely and totally agree

We agree because it is how we use our heros, and of course it is right
Personally, I also use this curve to protect the screen from scratchs and to push on it to see easily the screen while switching it on for a sec to see how minutes are left until I go back home