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Hi, I guess this thread is aimed at those who may have a Magic and those who want a hero. Ive been looking at both these devices. I was wondering what makes the hero so much better than the magic? As far as i can tell its mainly the camera and the phone is smaller. Are there many other differences?
ExO_PoLiTiX said:
Hi, I guess this thread is aimed at those who may have a Magic and those who want a hero. Ive been looking at both these devices. I was wondering what makes the hero so much better than the magic? As far as i can tell its mainly the camera and the phone is smaller. Are there many other differences?
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Depending on where you buy the Magic, it may have less RAM than the hero as there are two different RAM configurations available on the Magic (I'm unsure why.)
For me personally, what makes the Hero "better" is that the Magic feels a bit more like a toy than it should - I guess it's just that plasticky look and feel, but its shape and finish is just nowhere near as sleek and slick as the Hero. I like that the Hero's edges are more sqaured off than the Magic's rounded edges - I think that, for me atleast, plays a big part in the cheap-like feeling I get from the Magic.
The only concern I had about the Hero when I first saw it was the chin, however you'll find that the chin is not even noticeable in your pocket and in fact it just helps to protect the trackball from constant wear & tear by rubbing in your pocket throughout the day.
I know a lot of that is my personal opinion, but I hope it can help you out.
iammorris said:
Depending on where you buy the Magic, it may have less RAM than the hero as there are two different RAM configurations available on the Magic (I'm unsure why.)
For me personally, what makes the Hero "better" is that the Magic feels a bit more like a toy than it should - I guess it's just that plasticky look and feel, but its shape and finish is just nowhere near as sleek and slick as the Hero. I like that the Hero's edges are more sqaured off than the Magic's rounded edges - I think that, for me atleast, plays a big part in the cheap-like feeling I get from the Magic.
The only concern I had about the Hero when I first saw it was the chin, however you'll find that the chin is not even noticeable in your pocket and in fact it just helps to protect the trackball from constant wear & tear by rubbing in your pocket throughout the day.
I know a lot of that is my personal opinion, but I hope it can help you out.
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Hey, thanks alot for the reply. I agree, from what i've seen of the magic it does look a bit cheap compared to the hero. Im just saving for the hero and noticed that the magic is almost half the price of the hero. Do you think its justifiable that the hero should be worth spending double on? This would be my first android device and that would play a bit part in it as I am planning to write applications for this OS.
Because there are two different RAM specs on the Magic, it makes it less desirable to buy because you're having to make sure you get the higher RAM, but most are the lower so folk arent buying in case. Does that make sense?
As to the plasticky look - I agree to a degree, but - I rather stupidly dropped my Google ION (Magic from the dev's conference) from quite a height and it slid right across the road.... Result - a few small chips in that shiny plastic coating (underneath is definately a metal shell, likely aluminium) Not a scratch or mark on the screen or back of the handset and working perfectly. Its obviously an extremely robust build quality, and I can say the front casing is definately metal coated with shiny plastic. If I'd dropped my G1 it would have been majorly knackered, as the slider would have opened and that hinge is ridiculously precarious.
I'm also thinking bout getting a hero, as I've been well impressed with the adaptability of android phones and the glitches I've seen have been solved within weeks on here by some clever techy. Software library is WELL underway and I have copilot on my magic Ion running without a single glitch, though I have heard its buggy if you try to get the app without buying as CoPilot are adding in security measures.....
Regarding probs some people seem to be complaining about with albums and media from SD. In my experience as an owner of G1 then Magic, on FIRST USING any gallery/album type app, allow it to load all... it takes a while, because its creating a thumbs database on the device. Once done, access is really quick after that.
Daisy xxx
The Magic does have an overly plastic feel to it. A colleague got one today and I am not too convinced by it.
A big plus for the Hero is the 3.5mm headphone jack. FINALLY HTC caught onto the idea that their consumers want this!
The Hero also has the light sensors to automatically adjust screen brightness (if this works - my Omnia never seems to do it right.)
Multitouch is enabled on the Hero too, so you can pinch to zoom internet browser pages. I dont think the Magic has that!
Ohh yeah and the Flash enabled browser is quit a biggy too (lets just hope the reviews that show it crashing are all early releases and its fixed now!!)
I am only 4 months into a new 18 month contract with Orange but having looked into it a lot over the last few weeks. I want a Hero so much I am likely to pay the £400 SIM free price tag to get one!
Zippyioa
I've got a magic (vodafone UK, lesser ram version ) and love it. My girlfriend has a Hero (orange UK)
I prefer the look of the hero, and in my hand it feels nicer, but that's just preference. I'm more annoyed about the RAM difference grrrrr!
My magic(Ion) has Multitouch Browser I'm running a custom ROM. I'm getting my Her0 sometime soon (When stock arrives LOL) so I'll say more then , but won't knock the magic as its a really robust little device, and of course cheaper than a Hero for somone after something on a budget.
Daisy ....
Dayzee said:
My magic(Ion) has Multitouch Browser I'm running a custom ROM.
Daisy ....
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I stand corrected then
Zippyioa
I just made this thread to see how us G1/Dream owners feel about our outdated, falling apart phones.
Phones we should consider:
Nexus One
HTC Sidekick Twist
Samsung Galaxy S
HTC Evo 4g
Add more phones to the list and tell me how you feel about your G1 and why there is no worthy successor. (Full five row Qwerty and more)
Motorola Droid/Milestone. Does have qwerty.
But I think I'll wait until christmass with change
HTC needs to make the true next successor the G1
make it the first 4g phone on t-mobile call it the g2 release at the end of the year with gingerbread stock and bam SUCCESS
theres not a single phone out now, or rumored to be coming out that I would give up my G1 for.
maxidus said:
Motorola Droid/Milestone. Does have qwerty.
But I think I'll wait until christmass with change
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Droid keyboard is ****ty, useless and doesn't have 5th numeric row.
I wonder if LG Ally will be available in Europe...
It hurt as the G1 has some good and bad points as
Only 5 row keyboard Android in U.S.
Started Android from rc28 (look at what Android has accomplished!!)
Limited Space
Outdated Processor
Is getting old and many are falling apart
Still goes for $150 - $450!!!!!!!
G1 did well to show Android but now we need a true successor.. Have you all seen the Inbrics M1? 5 row keyboard, but I wish it was stock Android 2.1
Mytouch 3G Slide FTW xD
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make it the first 4g phone on t-mobile call it the g2 release at the end of the year with gingerbread stock and bam SUCCESS
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There's already a g2.. it's tmobile's name for the hero.
jamesd86 said:
theres not a single phone out now, or rumored to be coming out that I would give up my G1 for.
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Not even the Vision...?
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There's already a g2.. it's tmobile's name for the hero.
Not even the Vision...?
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I didn't look more than one google page deep but the last news I found was just a build id that said qwerty keyboard and the name of the phone, not enough for me to say I want. Seriously mu next phone purchase will be in 2011...by then we should have a dualcore mobile that kicks ass...now if only batteries followed moores law.
The Samsung Galaxy S Pro looks decent, it has a 5 row qwerty keyboard but still nothing on the specs (probably identical/similar to the Galaxy S).
HTC needs to re-release the G1/Dream with the Snapdragon processor, more ram/rom, better screen (higher resolution, better touchscreen, AMOLED display), better camera (at least 5MP with flash) and a normal headphone jack. Keep the same case/keyboard/screen size... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Had my G1 for a couple of years now and it's a great android starter phone.
But after a while you come to realize it's not that great after all.
Just like that guy in Utah, that died by firing squad last night, I've decided to place my phone against a wall (blindfolded of course), and let off a .50 cal round from my M107, straight into the menu button. I offered it one last flash, but true to form and solid as a brick (get it? brick? hahahaha) it refused.
So the plan that i've being plotting for a while now is coming into fruition. I've discovered something that has literally thousands more apps, great ui/responsiveness and is cosmetically better looking.
Six days from the date of this post I will have my new phone.
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Had my G1 for a couple of years now and it's a great android starter phone.
But after a while you come to realize it's not that great after all.
Just like that guy in Utah, that died by firing squad last night, I've decided to place my phone against a wall (blindfolded of course), and let off a .50 cal round from my M107, straight into the menu button. I offered it one last flash, but true to form and solid as a brick (get it? brick? hahahaha) it refused.
So the plan that i've being plotting for a while now is coming into fruition. I've discovered something that has literally thousands more apps, great ui/responsiveness and is cosmetically better looking.
Six days from the date of this post I will have my new phone.
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You're a MORON, and I would kindly ask you to STOP POSTING.
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You're a MORON, and I would kindly ask you to STOP POSTING.
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i do concur lbcoder...
wsdisciple, does someone pay you for spamming this link to apple site? Or are you 10 years old?
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As I stated before, I'm not going to replace G1 for now. Simply because there is no other decent phone with 5 row qwerty keyboard and I don't feel like pushing or holding shift to select numbers.
d3v14n7 said:
The Samsung Galaxy S Pro looks decent, it has a 5 row qwerty keyboard but still nothing on the specs (probably identical/similar to the Galaxy S).
HTC needs to re-release the G1/Dream with the Snapdragon processor, more ram/rom, better screen (higher resolution, better touchscreen, AMOLED display), better camera (at least 5MP with flash) and a normal headphone jack. Keep the same case/keyboard/screen size... I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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I love the chin and real buttons! My girlfriend has a Droid, and everytime I go to hit any of those soft buttons, I'm momentarily aggravated. Especially for long presses, which I use VERY often. Same shell, maybe add an exterior hardware search button, replace the trackball with an optical pad, front facing camera, and maybe a seperate led for charging. That, and everything else that's been said, would be the best phone ever. And it'd be faster than my computer..
wc is still going on with his apple fan-boy craziness?
The only real successor to a G1 would be to completely remake it with nothing but hardware upgrades. And a tad bit stronger. I read many many posts about the keyboard messing up and the G1 just plain out falling apart as OP said. I think it was rushed, and Google should have based the Nexus One off of it. Who knows, maybe one day something will roll out.
I say all this and I'm stuck with a myTouch. :| I've actually considered selling/trading it for a G1. My myTouch is just in horrible condition from so many drunken nights, lol.
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Almost. Lose the chin and have the button-area be part of the slidey-bit w/ the screen.
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I disagree, I love the chin and the fact the buttons are separate from the screen, it allows you to easily use those buttons/trackball with the keyboard open.
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I disagree, I love the chin and the fact the buttons are separate from the screen, it allows you to easily use those buttons/trackball with the keyboard open.
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The main problem I find with the "chin" isn't so much that it sticks out front, but that when the phone is laying flat on a desk, the "chin" section is lifted up. When you try to push a button, the thing pops up like a rake hitting a coyote in the head when he's trying to catch a roadrunner.
After seeing so many cracked screens I want my new phone to have a folding body with an inward facing screen when closed.
Also:
OLED screen
2 cameras
USB host
Infrared (handy sometimes)
iPhone destroyer beam
Hey guys, I was just wondering what were your opinions on the g2, and why did you guys pick the mt4g over the g2? I have a g2 myself, and I think it is a fantastic phone. I checked out the mt4g today, and I thought it looked pretty weird and awkwardly designed.
I do not mean to offend anyone, I was just interested in why you decided to pick the mt4g instead of the g2. The mt4g's material just felt weird to me, because it was mixed with plastic and metal, while the g2 has a consistant aluminum feel to it, which makes it seem like a high end device. Also the sense ui seemed downright silly. Then again it might just be me. I also see a lot of people returning their g2 for a mt4g.
What are your opinions/reasons for sticking with the mt4g?(Do you think the mt4g is aesthetically pleasing as the other phones?) Thanks.
I currently own both. Deciding right now which one to send back. It's looking more and more like it will be my G2. Here's my opinion after owning both:
I slightly prefer how the G2 looks. It's a classier phone. Part of that class is the all metal feel, and the soft buttons. I wish the myTouch didn't have this cheap looking chrome around the bezel. If it was like a piano black or even just flat black like the rest of the phone it would be much better looking. The plastic hard buttons are obviously not as nice as the soft buttons on the G2. That said, it's not really a deal breaker.
In your hand, and in your pocket, the myTouch wins. It's thinner, lighter, and I personally think it just feels better. The G2 was a little clunky for my tastes, but still acceptable.
The screen is basically a tie for me. They are the same resolution, and the myTouch is 0.1" bigger. The net result is that if you really scrutinize the two phones, the G2 is going to look ever so marginally sharper. Obviously this is because it has a slightly smaller screen with the same resolution, or more pixel density. In reality, unless you did a side by side caparison and stared at both of them, they are the same. Interestingly enough, when comparing the two, I found the color accuracy to be better on the myTouch, and it was slightly more vibrant. Again, they are so close this is a tie.
After having the G2 for 3 weeks, I've used the physical keyboard twice. Clearly, I don't have a use for it. This alone is the reason to get a G2 or not, in my opinion. If you don't use the keyboard, the G2 is just a bulkier, heavier myTouch with the possibility of hinge problems in the future. If you do use it though, the added weight and thickness is well worth it.
Stock for stock, the myTouch is a faster phone. However, for anyone on this forum, that's completely irrelevant, because you're just going to download visionary and vision_oc.ko and overlock your G2. When both phones are rooted (or temp rooted) the performance is basically identical. The G2 was just underclocked from the factory, presumably for battery life.
The only other things that set the myTouch apart from the G2 are the front facing camera, metal contacts on the side for a dock, and HTC sense. The front facing camera is cool, I don't know if I'll ever really use it. It's nice to know I can if I want though. Being able to use a dock is nice, although I don't know if I'll ever even buy one. HTC sense, in my opinion, is crap. However, some people really like it, and this can be a bonus for them. For me, I just use launcher pro anyway, so whether the phone has sense or not, it operates identically. I've actually found with the myTouch that the combination of HTC sense and launcher pro is actually kind of nice.
Last but not least, the genius button. At first, this seemed like a gimmick, but it's actually become one of the reasons I may end up keeping this over the G2. I'll illustrate the power of this little button for you. On both phones, this is how you would send a text message by voice:
G2: Press and hold the search button. Say, "Text John Smith." The text message window appears. You tap the message body, then tap the microphone button. Then you say, "This is a test message." Then you read your message and make sure it looks right. Then you tap send.
myTouch: Press the genius button. Say, "Send text to John Smith." The text message window appears, and a voice asks, "Would you like to dictate?" You say, "Yes." It prompts you to speak, and you say, "This is a test message." It then says, "This is a test message. Would you like to send this message?" You say, "Yes."
On G2, you had to look at your phone 3 different times, read your text message, and press several buttons. On the myTouch, you never looked at your phone, and pressed one button. Obviously if you want to text and drive, the myTouch is the phone for you.
So after all that, did I really sway you one way or the other? Probably not...lol. They are both good phones.
tl;dr
If you use a physical keyboard, get a G2. If you don't, get a myTouch. If you're on the fence, try out the genius button, it may sway your decision.
I had a Nexus One, I liked the idea of the G2, but it was basically exactly the same phone I had in my N1, just with a keyboard and a slightly slower processer. It wasn't worth paying money for something that was going to be the same performance I already had but more weight and bulk.
The MT4G has a faster processor, slightly larger screen, a lot more RAM, a lot more internal memory and I'm starting to like Sense.
I said I would only upgrade my N1 if I found something better, and the MT4G is better, the G2 is basically a Nexus One with a keyboard.
I agree with all those points. I had a G2 as well (2 of them). The end result was that both were glitchy, apps force closed constantly, and the camera sucked.
One thing I disagree with is the hard vs. soft keys. I prefer the hard keys. I am sick having to hit a soft key over and over and not have it respond. With the hardware buttons there is no question... just a satisfying click.
I haven't had a single hiccup since I have had my MT4G... so far it is one of the best phones I have ever used... well, one issue... downloading apps off wifi seems to be hit or miss.
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I currently own both. Deciding right now which one to send back. It's looking more and more like it will be my G2. Here's my opinion after owning both:
I slightly prefer how the G2 looks. It's a classier phone. Part of that class is the all metal feel, and the soft buttons. I wish the myTouch didn't have this cheap looking chrome around the bezel. If it was like a piano black or even just flat black like the rest of the phone it would be much better looking. The plastic hard buttons are obviously not as nice as the soft buttons on the G2. That said, it's not really a deal breaker.
In your hand, and in your pocket, the myTouch wins. It's thinner, lighter, and I personally think it just feels better. The G2 was a little clunky for my tastes, but still acceptable.
The screen is basically a tie for me. They are the same resolution, and the myTouch is 0.1" bigger. The net result is that if you really scrutinize the two phones, the G2 is going to look ever so marginally sharper. Obviously this is because it has a slightly smaller screen with the same resolution, or more pixel density. In reality, unless you did a side by side caparison and stared at both of them, they are the same. Interestingly enough, when comparing the two, I found the color accuracy to be better on the myTouch, and it was slightly more vibrant. Again, they are so close this is a tie.
After having the G2 for 3 weeks, I've used the physical keyboard twice. Clearly, I don't have a use for it. This alone is the reason to get a G2 or not, in my opinion. If you don't use the keyboard, the G2 is just a bulkier, heavier myTouch with the possibility of hinge problems in the future. If you do use it though, the added weight and thickness is well worth it.
The only other two things that set the myTouch apart from the G2 are the front facing camera and HTC sense. The front facing camera is cool, I don't know if I'll ever really use it. It's nice to know I can if I want though. HTC sense, in my opinion, is crap. However, some people really like it, and this can be a bonus for them. For me, I just use launcher pro anyway, so whether the phone has sense or not, it operates identically. I've actually found with the myTouch that the combination of HTC sense and launcher pro is actually kind of nice.
Lastly, stock for stock, the myTouch is a faster phone. However, for anyone on this forum, that's completely irrelevant, because you're just going to download visionary and vision_oc.ko and overlock your G2. When both phones are rooted (or temp rooted) the performance is basically identical. The G2 was just underclocked from the factory, presumably for battery life.
So after all that, did I tell you anything of value? Probably not...lol. They are both good phones.
tl;dr
If you use a physical keyboard, get a G2. If you don't, get a myTouch. The end.
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I agree with all those points. I had a G2 as well (2 of them). The end result was that both were glitchy, apps force closed constantly, and the camera sucked.
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I edited my post, adding one other thing that I really like about the phone (that I didn't think I would at first) and that's the genius button. Texting without ever looking at your phone is very powerful.
@realitydesign, thanks for the info, it did give me more insight on the mt4g. I did play with the genius button, but I thought it was just another useless bloatware so I quit it.(didnt want to quote you because you posted a pretty long response. I appreciate your opinion, thanks.)
@CyberStorm98, the g2 has a newer processor that outperforms the n1 actually...
Overall I like it a lot more than my G2. Better look overall, feels better in the hand (much, much thinner), glass screen, ffc, customizable LED notification light, the phone is pure win. I like the design of this phone a lot.
If there is an iPhone killer, this is definitely it.
Also, only the white myTouch 4G's have plastic on them. The plum, black, and red models all feature hard rubber.
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My Touch 4G
1GHz - Snapdragon
ROM - 4GB
RAM - 768MB
3.8 inch LCD
Htc G2
800 MHz - Qualcomm
ROM - 4GB
RAM - 512 MB
3.7 inch LCD
So the Mytouch 4g Processor is 200mhz faster (stock) u cant compare the g2 to the mytouch 4g when its overclocked cause thats not a fair comparison.
Mytouch 4g Ram is 256 MB More In Then G2
so the mytouch 4g should be faster but idk if sense ui slows it down vs stock android but thats the only difference in the two that matters
My wife and I are both former G1 users who got them on the initial pre-order. Last July, I replaced my G1 with a Vibrant, while my wife kept hers, in light of rumors that were circulating about the upcoming G2. The Vibrant turned out to be one enormous problem, with nothing more than a gorgeous SAMOLED screen to save it.
The G2's release coincided with my wife's birthday, so I bought it for her. I immediately felt phone envy, as the user experience of the G2 is far superior to the Vibrant. Although I almost bought a G2 as well, I decided to wait for the MT4G, which, by that time, was rumored to be released in November.
So far, the MT4G has been leaps and bounds better than the Vibrant. Yes, the screen is definitely not as beautiful. However, absolutely everything else is far superior. How does the MT4G stack up against the G2?
Both are fantastic phones, geared toward two completely different groups of users. Want vanilla Android and a physical keyboard? The G2 is for you. Want a front-facing camera, Sense UI, and don't care for the physical keyboard? Get the MT4G.
When it comes to the physical buttons on the MT4G, you either love them or hate them. Personally, after using the Vibrant for nearly 4 months, physical buttons are a welcome relief. Every now and then, I'd accidentally touch one of Vibrant's tactile buttons while doing something, causing the phone to perform undesired functions. It didn't happen often, but it surely got annoying when it did.
Since the G2 is underclocked and has less RAM than the MT4G, it's slightly less snappy, but it's not really noticeable during daily use. Again, one phone is not better than the other. Both are equipped with different sets of features for different sets of users.
Its all about perspective, and taste. If you like typing and browsing the web than the g2 would fit you perfectly.. if you like the idea of having two cameras and a slimmer device than go for the MYT4G
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Its up to you really. For some reason I like how g2 doesnt suck up so much memory ram. Mytg4 pretty much uses all its memory
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I'm selling my Vibrant on craigslist because I want to get the MT4G. I went to tmobile and looked over the G2 and the new MT4G although I like the sleek design of the G2i noticed the bezel was loose and flopping around when you turned three phone over so right then I knew there would be future problems down the road.
I like the sense ui on the mytouch and the flashlight app was so neat also. The one thing I truly hate about my Vibrant is the lack of a notification light. I downloaded quadrant on both phones while I was in tmobile and ran benchmarks. The G2 scored 1500 and the MT4G scored 1800.
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I'm selling my Vibrant on craigslist because I want to get the MT4G. I went to tmobile and looked over the G2 and the new MT4G although I like the sleek design of the G2i noticed the bezel was loose and flopping around when you turned three phone over so right then I knew there would be future problems down the road.
I like the sense ui on the mytouch and the flashlight app was so neat also. The one thing I truly hate about my Vibrant is the lack of a notification light. I downloaded quadrant on both phones while I was in tmobile and ran benchmarks. The G2 scored 1500 and the MT4G scored 1800.
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if u run the test a couple of times in a row u can get a 1920 with the mt4g. thats what i got at least.
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if u run the test a couple of times in a row u can get a 1920 with the mt4g. thats what i got at least.
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I never would have thought of running it 3 times in a row (even though every benchmark I run on a PC I run 3 times) - I ended up eeking out 1922 from the 3rd run.
Trying the 4th time now LOL
WOW - 4th time dropped like a rock! 1653!
Makes me wonder how much credit you REALLY can give to quadrant - especially with the scores that people are getting on a Vibrant with lag fix (I was one of those people). I felt a slight increase in speed on the lagfix, but not enough to justify benchmark scores nearly triple of the originals.
picked a myTouch 4G because i did not like the bulky keyboard
not to mention that the mytouch 4G has a front camera to boot..
I brought back my MT4G and got the G2 and here are my observations....
1) The screen is nicer on the G2 - not that the MT4G screen was bad, this just seems a little more... balanced.
2) I can't quite understand why a "vanilla" android phone (G2) is still running 2.2 when the MT4G that is all MySensed-out has 2.2.1 !
3) The keyboard is really nice, but the hinge is HORRIBLE.
4) I like the lighted notification "Ring" around the trackpad, something the MT4G doesn't have.
5) (I knew this already but I have to put it out there) Stock android's email client works, but doesn't quite have the flair that MySense's email client has.
6) The screen doesn't seem as responsive as the MT4G - not that it's bad, but just not quite as good.
All in all, the G2 is going back and I'm getting my MT4G back tomorrow morning. The hinge issue, well, lets just say that HTC should never had let these out the door like this, and T-Mobile should never have accepted them in this condition. The hinge is a deal breaker for an otherwise VERY nice phone. They should not be charging $50 more for this phone either.
all i gotta say is, myTouch 4G White , Best Phone,.Stock since day 1 no problems yet, battery pretty good,. flawless wifi router.loudspeaker. crisp screen.new to genius button but its been pretty useful, if ur in to Full handsfree mode.
Was sitting in the same boat. Got the G2 first (coming from a Nexus) and decided to give the MT4G a try when it came out.
Looks and size:
At first I found the G2 a lot more aesthetically appealing although I immediately noticed how much thinner and lighter the MT4G felt. Coming from the N1 it took a bit of adjustment to get used to the size and weight of the G2 and the physical keys on the MT4G. Having said that I really like how the G2 lays in your hand when you're web browsing with the keyboard open.
Look wise the MT4G is definitely not a Nexus 2. In my opinion the aluminum rim looks a little out of place and I don't like how the battery cover doesn't match with the colors on the red and plum model. On the black model the aluminum does not stand out as much because it blends in nicely with the black. Since it's more subtle it actually ends up looking quite good. I definitely could have gone with soft buttons instead of the physical ones but that's my personal preference.
Keyboard:
Whether you want a keyboard or not definitely comes down to personal preference. It's nice to have one but you pay for it in additional size and weight. The keyboard got great reviews so I assume a lot of people like it. I personally wasn't a big fan. Typing seemed slower and more strenuous than on my G1 because of the large keys and lack of dedicated number keys. I would have liked it better with 4 rows instead of 3 (bringing back the numbers) and smaller keys to start with. I also never quite got used to the special function keys HTC decided to add. Due to their prominent positioning one is quite prone to accidentally hitting them.
One major flaw of the keyboard is that you have no control over the keyboard backlighting. Until some custom rom fixes the issue, the light will come on and off and on and off etc when you're inside because the light sensor can't make up its mind. I found myself more than once covering the light sensor with my finger to force the backlight to come on because I had problems seeing the keys in the light condition I was in and had no way of forcing it to stay on.
Build quality:
When you put the phones next to each other you'll notice that most of the materials are the same. Both have metal battery covers and use hard rubber for the rest. Even the screens are identical (despite some rumors going around). The main difference is the front of the G2 with the soft keys vs plastic physical keys on the MT4G. G2 wins hands down in that area but I don't think this difference is nearly as significant as the controversial hinge when talking about quality and durability. I guess only time will tell how that'll play out. Considering how many people have sent their G2 back because of the hinge you should be prepared that it MIGHT be a problem in the long run.
Operating system/interface:
Since we have root there's really no point in comparing sense (+ genius button) to stock since you'll eventually be able to run either one on either device. It might be more important to consider dev support. So far the G2 seems to have more support but you also have to keep in mind that the MT4G has barely been out for a week. That considered it still got root the same day the G2 did and ClockworkMod recovery was ported to the MT4G 8 hours after the G2 got it. I even already saw pictures of a MT4G running an experimental version of CyanogenMod 6. Since the devices are so similar you can expect that most stuff for the G2 will be ported to the MT4G rather quickly and vice versa. One other thing to consider is that video chat will probably be an integral part of gingerbread. Makes me wonder how the G2 will hold up in the android 3.0 era (although I'm sure custom roms will work around it).
Unique features:
G2: keyboard, click mechanism for battery cover
MT4G: front facing camera (FFC), 256MB additional RAM, 100 mAh better battery, hot swappable micro sd card
Verdict:
Both are great phones. I ended up picking the MT4G (black) because size mattered more to me than the keyboard and I liked the additional ram. I also liked having the FFC. Those are things no custom rom can add and ended up mattering more to me than aesthetics. I also noticed my hinge getting slightly looser during the 3 weeks I had the G2 which worried me a little. If you want a keyboard however, or really dig that clean cut business look, the G2 is your phone. Good luck deciding.
I don't think they have the same screen, the mt4g has way worse viewing angles than the g2, I have them both right now.
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I don't think they have the same screen, the mt4g has way worse viewing angles than the g2, I have them both right now.
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The screens are exactly the same. It's the software which is causing the difference.
It finally will arrive from the buyer. Can't wait to root it and get some more CM6 action. Also can't wait to get my Nexus on eBay.
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Grats!
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Congrats pal.
So are you selling nexus s or one on ebay to get g2?. If yes, why? I have nexus s and thinking about exchanging it for g2.
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nohcho said:
So are you selling nexus s or one on ebay to get g2?. If yes, why? I have nexus s and thinking about exchanging it for g2.
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That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
Since they're both fairly equal on the specs level (minus the above nit-picks), I'd rather have the extra $250 and the G2's quirks over the Nexus's quirks. I'm also expecting a lot of "next-gen" Android devices to be unveiled at CES, so I'm probably only going to have this phone for 4-6 months anyways. The Nexus is just a little too pricey for something that isn't far enough beyond the G2; they're both essentially in the same hardware "generation."
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That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
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I can't possibly agree with all your + and - points....
AMOLED is WAY oversaturated. Nice in theory, but doesn't actually look right. It is quite a ways from being on par with SLCD for image quality.
On the VISION, the smaller screen is a ***PLUS***. I actually find the Vision's screen to still be too big. The DREAM's touch screen was a good size. I would never own a phone with a 4+ as it just gets to be too much stretching for 1-handed operation.
Also, being heavier and larger is also a POSITIVE. As an example, try to see how long a ford focus will last out on a battlefield against tanks and machine guns. A phone has to be sturdy and have a substantial mass to it because it IS used in a hostile environment -- temperature changes, water, being dropped, etc. It is also easier to hold when it has some weight. The tiny and low weight junkies are seriously confused people. Its not as if the thing is as big as a cell phone from the 80's.
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I can't possibly agree with all your + and - points....
AMOLED is WAY oversaturated. Nice in theory, but doesn't actually look right. It is quite a ways from being on par with SLCD for image quality.
On the VISION, the smaller screen is a ***PLUS***. I actually find the Vision's screen to still be too big. The DREAM's touch screen was a good size. I would never own a phone with a 4+ as it just gets to be too much stretching for 1-handed operation.
Also, being heavier and larger is also a POSITIVE. As an example, try to see how long a ford focus will last out on a battlefield against tanks and machine guns. A phone has to be sturdy and have a substantial mass to it because it IS used in a hostile environment -- temperature changes, water, being dropped, etc. It is also easier to hold when it has some weight. The tiny and low weight junkies are seriously confused people. Its not as if the thing is as big as a cell phone from the 80's.
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Relax. They were my own opinions.
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TheBiles said:
Relax. They were my own opinions.
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I am relaxed. I'm just helping to improve your perspective on the device you have chosen to own. I.e., you should feel even better! What you've chosen is, by FAR, the best phone out there.
Yep got mine last week, awesome phone..running gingerbread rom nicely
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I'm still using CM6.1.1 until we get an official CM7 RC. I just love my CM extras too much.
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I won't be touching CM7 on Vision until I know that it can be trusted. Phone has to actually work. Experimental stuff to happen on the Dream.
I finally took the plunge and I have ordered a Desire Z to arrive tomorrow. I almost bit the bullet and bought it at launch but during the delays in Europe, I read so much about the hinge issue and chickened out.
My Touch Pro 2 has developed the dreaded newton rings for the second time in 6months and I have sent it away to be repaired on warranty. I will sell it when it returns.
This situation forced me into buying a new phone and I looked at the Desire Z (again), Nexus S and Desire HD. I just couldnt bring myself to accept the size of the DHD. I have used phones with keyboards for the past 3 years and I dont think I can live without a keyboard. I went to Bestbuy on a few occassions to try out the touchscreen keyboard on the NS but it just didnt feel rght. I know how frustrated I got when I tried to type simple mesages on the screen of my TP2.
I decided on getting the DZ since the hinge 'problem' only surfaces when the phone is held in a ridiculous way you probably will never hold it in most real world situations. Anyway I bought it online so I have 7 days to return it if the hinge seems to be a really big problem.
TheBiles said:
That's exactly what I'm doing. Here's why (pros = +, cons = -):
Nexus S: (can sell for $650)
+beautiful SAMOLED screen
+instant updates from Google
+very light and sexy
-all-plastic housing is a fingerprint and scratch magnet
-no notification LED
-it's a Samsung
G2: (bought for $400)
+hardware keyboard
+matte finish is not a fingerprint magnet
+notification and charging LEDs
+SLCD is also beautiful, albeit less saturated
+HTC quality
-smaller screen
-heavier and larger
-non-Google updates (but I use CM)
Since they're both fairly equal on the specs level (minus the above nit-picks), I'd rather have the extra $250 and the G2's quirks over the Nexus's quirks. I'm also expecting a lot of "next-gen" Android devices to be unveiled at CES, so I'm probably only going to have this phone for 4-6 months anyways. The Nexus is just a little too pricey for something that isn't far enough beyond the G2; they're both essentially in the same hardware "generation."
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This is one of the clearest break downs I've seen for choosing a G2. These are some of the reason I chose the G2. Plus I really feel like both the Nexus S and Gingerbread were a rush job for the Christmas dough.
That said, I almost got the Nexus S just for the resale value. Because, come april-may 2011 the G2 probably won't fetch more than $175-200 tops.
Oh well I saved money on this end.
lombardo8 said:
I have used phones with keyboards for the past 3 years and I dont think I can live without a keyboard. I went to Bestbuy on a few occassions to try out the touchscreen keyboard on the NS but it just didnt feel rght. I know how frustrated I got when I tried to type simple mesages on the screen of my TP2.
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I can't stand "traditional" touchscreen keyboards either, but Swype works really well. I am finding myself surprised at how often I use Swype instead of the hardware keyboard on my Vision. I still use the hardware keyboard for longer messages. But for my next phone, I may seriously consider a phone without a keyboard.
redpoint73 said:
I can't stand "traditional" touchscreen keyboards either, but Swype works really well. I am finding myself surprised at how often I use Swype instead of the hardware keyboard on my Vision. I still use the hardware keyboard for longer messages. But for my next phone, I may seriously consider a phone without a keyboard.
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That has to be a matter of personal preference. Swype, to me, was absolute garbage, so I deleted it.
dhkr123 said:
That has to be a matter of personal preference. Swype, to me, was absolute garbage, so I deleted it.
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Personal preference? Absolutely. But I'm surprised you would go so far as to call Swype "absolute garbage". What about it didn't you like? As a "regular" touchscreen keyboard, its seems just about as good as any other. As far as 'swiping' words, I find it very good at predicting the word I intended, even when I often know for fact that I didn't hit the letters exactly right.
redpoint73 said:
Personal preference? Absolutely. But I'm surprised you would go so far as to call Swype "absolute garbage". What about it didn't you like? As a "regular" touchscreen keyboard, its seems just about as good as any other. As far as 'swiping' words, I find it very good at predicting the word I intended, even when I often know for fact that I didn't hit the letters exactly right.
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Swype is the thing of gods. I couldn't use a software keyboard without it.
I tried Swpe on a colleagues Galaxy S and was very impressed. I could get used to using Swype but the problem is I type mainly in slang and a kind of english (african patois) which means I woud have to use the Swype keyboard like an ordinary keyboard most times.
lombardo8 said:
I tried Swpe on a colleagues Galaxy S and was very impressed. I could get used to using Swype but the problem is I type mainly in slang and a kind of english (african patois) which means I woud have to use the Swype keyboard like an ordinary keyboard most times.
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After you type the word once it will learn it.
What a phone! So so beautiful! That hinge is not an issue. Under no circumstances would I hold my phone the way that we see in all them videos on the internet.
ALK say on their website that u cant transfer copilot live 8 from a windows mobile to an android phone but its a big lie!. it was the first thing i installed and it works a treat. I have also downloaded angry birds, I know everyones going crazy about that so I thought i would join in. I am going to try and install Swype in a minute. I have only had the phone about 45 minutes and I am completely blown away. I was actually able to watch hustle on BBC iPlayer in my browser. Phone technolgy has grown in leaps and bounds since I bought my TP2.
Thank goodness I didnt allow those videos about the hinge put me off from buying this truly wonderful phone.
While the M8 looks amazing, I have concerns about the build quality.
I own the last few HTC flagships, so a bit of background.
Desire HD - amazing phone. Absolutely sold me on Android. The wife still uses it.
One X - I rushed out to buy this as the DHD was that good. I had to exchange this phone 4 times due to QC issues - all documented (flex, bleed, dead pixels, etc). The good phone I eventually got now has a bad strip on the digitizer. The bottom row of the keyboard / just above the unlock ring is dead. Out of warranty and unlocked so no chance with HTC. DOA - no new phone for the wife (see above).
One (M7) - amazing phone again, ran out and bought it at launch. It wasn't until I got it home that I noticed a dead pixel and a hair just under the screen. Maddening! Had to return that one as well. Took a month for my carrier to get more back in stock to replace it. In the end, this phone is close to perfect.
One (M8) - ?
Not trying to start any kind of flamewar, but my faith in HTC is waning. Are they the new Microsoft, only release anything good every other?
Just looking for feedback on the build quality on the M8.
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I thought HTC has had a pretty good reputation for build quality with the One X being the exception, not the norm for HTC. And that bad pixel on the M7, that's just bad luck that could happen on any phone.
So far, sounds like the build quality on the M8 is really good. I have less concerns about HTC's build quality than I do about some other phone manufactures (I'll avoid the flame war by not mentioning names, haha).
I have two M8's here, one has a screen that is darker and yellower than the other. Not happy, it will be going back tomorrow.
B-Mod said:
I have two M8's here, one has a screen that is darker and yellower than the other. Not happy, it will be going back tomorrow.
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Had that issue on the m7 as well. A speaker blew (4 out of 5 HTC phones I've owned had blown speakers) so I filed a claim. I think it took 4 or 5 tries before I got an acceptable replacement. It was still darker and yellower than my original tho
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I've had pretty good luck with my HTC phones. I'm still rocking the launch day m7.
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That should be called the trolls thread!
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naouris said:
That should be called the trolls thread!
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Not sure how you see this as a "Troll thread"? - OP is asking for feedback and if anyone else has or had concerns regarding build quality issues.
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My HTC One (Red) was pretty solid, however I feel any issues that the One may of had were probably Ironed out by the time the red was released into the wild. - Hopefully HTC will come back with a big bang, like Nokia they've been around a long time.. Just wondering now when the Samsung buzz will wear off and people start to choose stylish, good looking, feature orientated devices over a plastic device. (Not flaming Samsung, as I've had an S3 and an N3)
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Not sure how you see this as a "Troll thread"? - OP is asking for feedback and if anyone else has or had concerns regarding build quality issues.
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My HTC One (Red) was pretty solid, however I feel any issues that the One may of had were probably Ironed out by the time the red was released into the wild. - Hopefully HTC will come back with a big bang, like Nokia they've been around a long time.. Just wondering now when the Samsung buzz will wear off and people start to choose stylish, good looking, feature orientated devices over a plastic device. (Not flaming Samsung, as I've had an S3 and an N3)
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And everyone knows these types of threads draw out every single device basher which gives a false representation of the actual prevalence of build quality issues.
That said, name just one device that didn't have any.
As for my HTC experience, the One has been a dream... The rest of them all had a lot of issues. If the M8 follows the M7, there won't be any issues. The ONLY complaint I had about my M7 is the camera tint when not in good lighting that came up and got worse the longer I had the phone.
Speakers? Perfect
Gap? None
Display? Perfect
Durability? Incredible.
If you look in my signature, I've had a ton of HTC devices. Among them, there were some really bad ones. The Sensation? Damn thing got so hot that it would reboot if I used the GPS which made it useless for navigating anywhere. MyTouch 4G? Every time I would restart the device, it would lose its internal storage and act like I factory reset it - it was doing that out of the box. PPC-6800? I lost track of the issues between the screen, overheating, freezing, cracked camera - I replaced it through Sprint 5 times before they gave me a Touch Pro in exchange for it. The original Touch? The screen stopped responding. The Hero? The display cracked even though there was no damage to the glass - the whole thing randomly shattered internally one day.
After the Sensation, I vowed never to go HTC again. Then I got the S4 and my roommate got the One. He couldn't get used to the One coming from the S3 so he wanted to trade me, I did it and I never looked back.
If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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kirdroid said:
If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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That's my point though - the camera issue with the M7 was likely something HTC couldn't predict until it happened since it was heat specific. Before that, my M7 the first flawless build quality device I have had since the BlackBerry Curve.
You have a Nexus and you're worried about HTC build quality?
Case in point: all mass-produced computers, tablets, and phones have isolated build quality issues. It happens. There's no sense in worrying about what may or may not happen with a device - if I was going on my track record with previous HTC devices, I would have expected to replace my One at least 2 times by now. But that didn't happen.
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That's my point though - the camera issue with the M7 was likely something HTC couldn't predict until it happened since it was heat specific. Before that, my M7 the first flawless build quality device I have had since the BlackBerry Curve.
You have a Nexus and you're worried about HTC build quality?
Case in point: all mass-produced computers, tablets, and phones have isolated build quality issues. It happens. There's no sense in worrying about what may or may not happen with a device - if I was going on my track record with previous HTC devices, I would have expected to replace my One at least 2 times by now. But that didn't happen.
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I buy almost all phones and sell my old ones.. So I never cared about build quality since I don't keep phones for long. The point I'm trying to make is every phone will have something, even if they make a perfect phone some user will nitpick some thing.
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PatsFan1286 said:
While the M8 looks amazing, I have concerns about the build quality.
I own the last few HTC flagships, so a bit of background.
Desire HD - amazing phone. Absolutely sold me on Android. The wife still uses it.
One X - I rushed out to buy this as the DHD was that good. I had to exchange this phone 4 times due to QC issues - all documented (flex, bleed, dead pixels, etc). The good phone I eventually got now has a bad strip on the digitizer. The bottom row of the keyboard / just above the unlock ring is dead. Out of warranty and unlocked so no chance with HTC. DOA - no new phone for the wife (see above).
One (M7) - amazing phone again, ran out and bought it at launch. It wasn't until I got it home that I noticed a dead pixel and a hair just under the screen. Maddening! Had to return that one as well. Took a month for my carrier to get more back in stock to replace it. In the end, this phone is close to perfect.
One (M8) - ?
Not trying to start any kind of flamewar, but my faith in HTC is waning. Are they the new Microsoft, only release anything good every other?
Just looking for feedback on the build quality on the M8.
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I kinda feel your pain...
1. One X, Launch day, before the embargo... Still have it. No issues at all.
2. One (m7), Launch day... Glass was crooked. MEaning it dipped in at the bottom and stuck out at the top. Took it back got another, dead pixel... Finally got a third that was decent.
3. One Max (m6) - Used... Perfect, no complaints.
3. One M8 - Perfect. No complaints...
We all know the One (m7) had some issues... It was luck of the draw.
I have no hesitations except screen size. Coming from N3 and One Max... Its hard to go back to 5"
And fwiw sometimes these threads cause people to look at their device so closely and see they have the same thing and then it bothers them. Had they never come across a thread like this they probably wouldn't have noticed (the small imperfections not big defects)
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I know this type of thread will always bring out trolls / fanboys of other manufacturers, but that's not my intention.
I don't think I'm being too picky when I shell out 600 bucks for a phone and expect it to be nearly perfect. I understand there are always flaws in any mass produced electronic device, but to me a dead pixel is unacceptable - once you see it, it can't be unseen. My phone has the purple tint issue with the camera, but I don't care about that. Some may say I'm being nitpicky about a pixel, but I could say the same about others who complain about the camera. To each their own I guess.
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If you found issue in all the HTC phones you bought till now, I'm pretty sure you will have some issue with this as well.
I'm seeing a trend, are you not seeing it?
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I'm not exactly sure what your point is. Yes, I'm seeing a trend, hence me creating this thread to see if others are experiencing issues with the M8. So I'm expected to just suck it up and deal with it if I'm not happy? I continue to buy HTC as I like the design, non-OLED screen, Sense and the community here on XDA.
I really am just looking for others experience with the build quality of the M8.
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I kinda feel your pain...
1. One X, Launch day, before the embargo... Still have it. No issues at all.
2. One (m7), Launch day... Glass was crooked. MEaning it dipped in at the bottom and stuck out at the top. Took it back got another, dead pixel... Finally got a third that was decent.
3. One Max (m6) - Used... Perfect, no complaints.
3. One M8 - Perfect. No complaints...
We all know the One (m7) had some issues... It was luck of the draw.
I have no hesitations except screen size. Coming from N3 and One Max... Its hard to go back to 5"
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I'm actually struggling a little with the phone being to big haha. Its pretty cool though. No actual real complaints yet.
I've had a new htc every year for the past 10 or so.
I have not had to return one of them.
The last time I had to bring a HTC phone back was in the touch pro 2 days lol. I guess I'm lucky
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I have a HTC One X and I haven't had any issues with it except for band compatibility. Also, the M8 looks nice but I wonder will the metal on it scratch easily?
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I bought the M8 from Verizon yesterday and I have zero issues. Screen is gorgeous, no yellowing. There are no gap issues like the M7. Screen is flush with the boom sound speakers. The build quality is outstanding. I had three M7s and each one had issues. One with gaps but a flush screen. One with no gaps but the screen was not flush. And one had gaps and the screen was off.
This phone is easily the highest build quality phone I've ever had. And I have been through many phones.
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I really really can speak out of experience, having owned many HTC devices!
HTC Desire - Fantastic phone, no issues, camera lens was very easy to scratch though and after two years the backplate of the phone became loose.
HTC Desire HD - Fantastic phone, no issues there either. I think my only gripe was the AWFUL side cover for the battery and the bottom plastic part of the phone. If I ran my finger over the bottom of the phone there was a difference in levels between the sim-card cover and the body of the phone. No big issue though, and not really a build quality issue either, more of a design flaw.
HTC Mozart - Terrible phone. Lovely design but the phone got dust underneath the screen after having it for just two months. Luckily it was only a temporary phone though. I smashed my Desire HD and picked up a Mozart new in a sale. I got the Sensation three months later.
HTC Sensation & Sensation XE - This phone had a somewhat strange design. The entire back of the phone would come off and it wrapped around the front slightly. After removing the cover two or three times it didn't fit as snugly as it once did and every time you pressed a capacitive button it would result in the phone creaking against the back of the body of the phone. Hard to explain, once again more of a design flaw.
HTC One X - By far the worst HTC phone, but down to design flaws once again. Wi-Fi antenna was stuck to the body of the phone, not the internal of the phone, Tegra 3 chipset would heat up a LOT resulting in the polycarbonate expanding and you being left with no Wi-Fi signal or a very weak one indeed. In terms of other things, such as dead pixels I never experienced this. All in all I had about 6 HTC One Xs in a short space of time due to the Wi-Fi issue, and the Wi-Fi issue was the only problem I had with them. I switched to a GS3 due to this.
HTC One (M7) - I have had about 10 HTC One's in the past year, I got one on release day though and it had the infamous gap issue. This is somewhat a design issue, once again, but could also be a build quality issue as they shouldn't have been let out of QC like that. Due to the complex design of the phone, the edges are prone to sticking out and being "un-even" with the metal housing on the speakers. At the top and bottom of the phones there is often a hairline gap between the polycarbonate and the speaker frame too. On the sides of the phone, the black plastic strips are prone to being uneven, the volume rocker can become loose sometimes. The white polycarbonate was prone to staining and getting dirty, but this isn't really an issue it's to be expected. It's important to note that though annoying, none of these issues rendered the phone unusable. Maybe just unacceptable in some people preferences (mine, I'm a perfectionist and dropping £479 on a phone is a lot)
I will be getting the M8, and I will be an early adopter. I love HTC phones, they are the best regardless.