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Can you guys post some benchmarks. Thanks
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I got a poor 2200 from Quadrant
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I got 2042 on one run
I just benchmarked my 2011 Kindle Fire and it got a 2016 in quadrant. OMAP 4460 is supposed to be 20% faster clock than OMAP 4430(1.2ghz v 1ghz) so I would assume Kindle Fire HD gets 2400ish but that's only hypothetical.
6100 from Antutu benchmark. Really, pretty good for 1.2
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
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Nexus has a quad core CPU. Im sure that bench is multi-threaded.
Okay. Regardless, an score like that is quite mediocre
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Nexus has a quad core CPU. Im sure that bench is multi-threaded.
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Also, those benchmarks don't compensate for the OS - a vanilla version of the OS (Nexus 7) will run faster than one that is less efficient (KFHD). Real world is what matters to me. I bought a KFHD after playing around with one at Best Buy. I don't know if the review units had flaws, but I have experienced no stuttering or slow down. It is much smoother than I expected.
Also, popping flash on there was a breeze, as is sideloading any apps (minus google apps, but including YouTube) that you want.
Overall, a pretty great product. For me it simply came down to if a vanilla Android experience offset the HDMI out (awesome), dual wifi antennas, stereo (and usable) speakers, better screen (that isn't even an opinion if you've seen the screen), double the storage, etc. of the KFHD.
I don't think the difference is that night and day, when comparing the features, although I am happy you are happy about it. The only reason I truly want one of these is because my nexus had been having a lit of issues.
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Anyone thinking that the CPU on the Kindle HD will perform anything remotely close to the Nexus is only fooling yourselves. The CPU on the HD by all means is considered a budget chip and anyone thinking otherwise is just being delusional. Sure the HD has other aspects going for it verses the Nexus, but the CPU isn't one of them.
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4460 vs 4470
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And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
The Kindle Fire 8.9 is the one that beats the nexus 7 (slightly). The 4460 and 4470 are very different in performance (as far as 3D goes). The omap 4470 has a SGX544 vs the SGX540 in the 4460.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...0-tablet-review-part-3-omap-4470-performance/
This means the 7HD should perform like a Galaxy Nexus (~2000) while the 8.9 performs like the Archos 101XS (~3800 quadrant)
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Anyone thinking that the CPU on the Kindle HD will perform anything remotely close to the Nexus is only fooling yourselves. The CPU on the HD is by all means is considered a budget chip and anyone thinking otherwise is just being delusional. Sure the HD has other aspects going for it verses the Nexus, but the CPU isn't one of them.
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To me (and this almost kills me to say as a PC enthusiast that is constantly OC'ing and upgrading), there isn't a reason for all the power on android. Cell phones / tablets are the first technology I have seen where the hardware is so far beyond anything the software can take advantage of, it is almost pointless. Quad core processors on a tablet with near zero apps optimized for them. Graphics chips so fast they can run 3D games with ease....with about 10 3D games to play...
I highly doubt there will be any software coming anytime soon that will tax even a KFHD's hardware - especially if you use a PC / Laptop for hardcore gaming, and stick with stuff like Cut the Rope and word games on your tablet.
It seems like such a waste of hardware computing power to me.
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And all the while chips are getting faster and faster.
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ncvikingx97 said:
And people are saying that the kindle fire HD had better hardware than the nexus. I think it definitely needs root. The GPU can be as amazing, but the processing side matters too
The Kindle Fire 8.9 is the one that beats the nexus 7 (slightly). The 4460 and 4470 are very different in performance (as far as 3D goes). The omap 4470 has a SGX544 vs the SGX540 in the 4460.
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...0-tablet-review-part-3-omap-4470-performance/
This means the 7HD should perform like a Galaxy Nexus (~2000) while the 8.9 performs like the Archos 101XS (~3800 quadrant)
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Is the difference between the two that extreme?crazy
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Now 6700 from Antutu benchmark. Sweet.
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Most of the literature I've seen says the KFHD 7 has a 4460 with an SGX544 (not an SGX540). Is this even possible ?
It would be great if it was. I don't think amazonvwants to desperate the two in hardware to the extreme of what others are saying
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To me (and this almost kills me to say as a PC enthusiast that is constantly OC'ing and upgrading), there isn't a reason for all the power on android. Cell phones / tablets are the first technology I have seen where the hardware is so far beyond anything the software can take advantage of, it is almost pointless. Quad core processors on a tablet with near zero apps optimized for them. Graphics chips so fast they can run 3D games with ease....with about 10 3D games to play...
I highly doubt there will be any software coming anytime soon that will tax even a KFHD's hardware - especially if you use a PC / Laptop for hardcore gaming, and stick with stuff like Cut the Rope and word games on your tablet.
It seems like such a waste of hardware computing power to me.
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It's pointless to own now only because of the lack of optimizations, this is slowly changing. There is always be a growth period for software when new hardware releases. The applications that really need the extra cores are already using them, dont worry.
Look at Apple for example. It's taking time to get the apps for the new iPads higher screen resolution but it is happening, just slowly. Now consider that the iPad 1 with it's single core no longer receives updates to the OS as it's become too slow with all the changes and outdated. Apple even restricts the applications it can use like garageband and a lot of 3D games run poorly or not at all. This is only 3 years old and already completely outdated even with the more efficient OS. Any android tablet surely would feel terribly slow much quicker considering Android is running as a virtual machine and using more resources to do so.
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It's pointless to own now only because of the lack of optimizations, this is slowly changing. There is always be a growth period for software when new hardware releases. The applications that really need the extra cores are already using them, dont worry.
Look at Apple for example. It's taking time to get the apps for the new iPads higher screen resolution but it is happening, just slowly. Now consider that the iPad 1 with it's single core no longer receives updates to the OS as it's become too slow with all the changes and outdated. Apple even restricts the applications it can use like garageband and a lot of 3D games run poorly or not at all. This is only 3 years old and already completely outdated even with the more efficient OS. Any android tablet surely would feel terribly slow much quicker considering Android is running as a virtual machine and using more resources to do so.
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Just curious, what does it mean it is running as a virtual machine? Thank you
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Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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From anandtech:
[snapdragon 600] "This is quad core Krait 300 (as opposed to 200 in MSM8960 or APQ8064) which brings a 15 percent increase in IPC as well as higher clocks (from 1.5 to 1.7 GHz), for about 20–30 percent higher overall CPU performance"
20 - 30% So significant but not huge.
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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I read on snapdragon s4 pro and compare it with spec of snapdragon 600 "the only" difference i got is memory technology, s4pro uses 533MHz LPDDR2 and 600 uses LPDDR3
Edit: our phone not made for benchmark, i read somewhere on google+ someone wrote about it.
Btw nexus is always behind in terms of benchmarking, but if you compare the smoothness even galaxy nexus is still so smooth.
Here is the link https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/Q1yVmqtubG9 its exynos4 saga by one of exynos cm maintainer, but he give a reason why our benchmark not as good as optimus G.
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Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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+1 Please
Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Well because sometimes its a good way of comparing the performance of 2 phones - unfortunately not the case with a nexus I've just learned. Eyeball is very subjective, benchmarks are not (well they shouldn't be!).
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lol @ benchmarks please welcome to technology soon as you bought the phone it was considered OLD !
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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S4 Pro is still quick and i can see it being developed in devices for another 2+ years. i would safely assume low end tablets would also start using it when the price of these chips are reduced
Never cared about benchmarks, Even with the PCs I build. I over clock my pcs as much as possible for REAL WORLD usage and as long as they allow me to do everything I want and more and visually everything looks and feels fine and is stable, I'm good to go. Same applies with these phones. The nexus has top of the line internals and stock android allows this phone to be the way it was meant to. Now I have flashed asylum which is awesome, and I have used just about every kernel. I do notice differences in kernels “cough, matrix is the best, cough", but the differences are “seat of the pants" which is a curse in my opinion. Benchmarking stresses components, and at the price of these things why take a chance of shortening its life.
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But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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That is my point right there.
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CheesyNutz said:
benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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My G2x used to get pretty high benchmarks... I hated that phone.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Yeah its my understanding that quadrant is also really easy to spoof
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AW: Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro
So far I can see only devices with Android 4.1, or less, score pretty high with Krait cores. We havn't any other phone with 4.2 and snapdragon CPU to compare fairly.
The dual core S3 in my Xperia S doesn't feel any difference to the quad core S4 Pro in my Nexus 4 in every day use so i aint going to lose any sleep.
The number I heard thrown around was 40% faster on paper, or theoretically. Real world applications that may translate to less but still somewhat significant depending on your use case.
The kicker is it seems to still be the Adreno 320, is that higher clocked than the S4 Pro? If not it's pushing more pixels in the HTC One.
What are you guys' thoughts about the rumor of august 23rd the Motorola x is coming out? Straight Google on vzw (unfortunately I'm still contracted) with possibly a maxx size battery sounds sweet.
Do you think there will be enough development?
With all the hype, specs, and stock Android, there will definitely be a ton of development for it.
I hate all Motorola phones Lol. Just looked up the specs and its on dual core 1.7. Other specs don't look too thrilling
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I hate all Motorola phones Lol. Just looked up the specs and its on dual core 1.7. Other specs don't look too thrilling
His: HTC DNA
Hers: LG Optimus G
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The specs aren't all that fantastic. The last I heard it wasn't even 1080p, and dual-core anything isn't all the impressive.
But since it has stock aosp (which I never personally was that big a fan of), everyone is going to drool over it, and it'll have relatively good developer support.
There are apparently multiple tiers of them. With the highest being amazing.
S800 processor(simply the best out there)
1080p screen 5ish inch screen
Keller back with drop and water resistant
2 gigs of ram
With or without a maxx size battery.
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There are apparently multiple tiers of them. With the highest being amazing.
S800 processor(simply the best out there)
1080p screen 5ish inch screen
Keller back with drop and water resistant
2 gigs of ram
With or without a maxx size battery.
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So you can customize the processor too? I'm thinking that would split development...like this ROM is for 600 processors, ROMs won't be universal. I have an upgrade 8/29 luckily. If you can get a quad core 1.7, maxx battery. 1080p, 2gb of ram, with Google source aosp backing, I'll be all over this
Regardless of if it is moto
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So you can customize the processor too? I'm thinking that would split development...like this ROM is for 600 processors, ROMs won't be universal. I have an upgrade 8/29 luckily. If you can get a quad core 1.7, maxx battery. 1080p, 2gb of ram, with Google source aosp backing, I'll be all over this
Regardless of if it is moto
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It isn't necessarily customizing. Just that there is a mid range phone and a high end phone.
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It isn't necessarily customizing. Just that there is a mid range phone and a high end phone.
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Oh cool!
I'm either looking at this or a newer HTC around Christmas. Verizon will get the one too late...hopefully there is a ground breaking dna2. Otherwise, this is a powerhouse of a phone and I love the developers
For me it's all about specs. The moto x needs to have at least 8 cores or a much faster quad core set up.it needs to have more ram, an equal or better camera, an equal or better screen, an equal or better build quality. I have 2 small kids and taking pics on the fly is really important. I just switch from an iPhone 5 to the DNA and after using the camera for the past week I've been pleasantly surprised. I think everyone will agree that Motorola has never been known for its camera. Hopefully Google has improved this
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For me it's all about specs. The moto x needs to have at least 8 cores or a much faster quad core set up.it needs to have more ram, an equal or better camera, an equal or better screen, an equal or better build quality. I have 2 small kids and taking pics on the fly is really important. I just switch from an iPhone 5 to the DNA and after using the camera for the past week I've been pleasantly surprised. I think everyone will agree that Motorola has never been known for its camera. Hopefully Google has improved this
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8 cores?
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There are apparently multiple tiers of them. With the highest being amazing.
S800 processor(simply the best out there)
1080p screen 5ish inch screen
Keller back with drop and water resistant
2 gigs of ram
With or without a maxx size battery.
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You're confusing the X and the new Droid Ultra variants. The X has standard internals across all versions but is supposed to have an array of new and advanced sensors and custom colors. The others are the new Droid phones headed to Verizon.
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Yeah like the Exynos 5 Octa 5410 cpu that the galaxy s4 international is sporting. Another quad core cpu that it's overclocked a bit higher went be enough for me to move on
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Yeah like the Exynos 5 Octa 5410 cpu that the galaxy s4 international is sporting. Another quad core cpu that it's overclocked a bit higher went be enough for me to move on
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It only utilizes four cores at once. The name is a gimmick. It uses four A15s for intense tasks and the for A7s for low end tasks
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You're confusing the X and the new Droid Ultra variants. The X has standard internals across all versions but is supposed to have an array of new and advanced sensors and custom colors. The others are the new Droid phones headed to Verizon.
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According to recent leaks the ultra and the 'X phone' are very similar. Both have a mid range version, and that is what leaked quite a few months ago. Recently there have been leaks for a high end version in both line ups.
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Yeah like the Exynos 5 Octa 5410 cpu that the galaxy s4 international is sporting. Another quad core cpu that it's overclocked a bit higher went be enough for me to move on
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That processor doesn't actually use 8 cores. It is essentially 2 quad core processor smacked together, with only one being run at once. It is no faster than a normal quad core processor.
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The idea behind octo core is battery.minimal tasks use the less powerful four. Gaming, etc, using the more powerful set. So ironically it is about battery. I agree, a new phone has to be super impressive for me to leave the DNA.
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There are apparently multiple tiers of them. With the highest being amazing.
S800 processor(simply the best out there)
1080p screen 5ish inch screen
Keller back with drop and water resistant
2 gigs of ram
With or without a maxx size battery.
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That should be the minimum if they hope to impress the jaded.
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8 cores?
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I think he is thinking of samsungs Exynos5 cpu, in reality its a dual-quad core cpu, you can only use 4 cores at any given time, like different power states low power cores and high power cores
I will get Moto X no doubts about that . The most important thing would be that - "first smartphone designed, engineered and assembled in the USA". Finally our first American made smartphone . I am tired of asian cra'
Moto X is a mid range device with custom colors
Moto Droid Ultra (regular and maxx) are your high end devices
See droid life. Android police, any android blog....
http://m.cnet.com/news/moto-x-will-sport-always-on-voice-commands-leaked-video-shows/57593663
Oh yeahhhh
Isn't this just practically the same spec as the N4? Same CPU, same amount of RAM, GPU etc. etc.?
Yes
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With a better display resolution ofc. Is that a good thing or a bad thing for you? Because I think It's awesome to have a tablet like that at this price tag. I'll refresh my Nexus 7 with the new one as soon as I can since it's extremely affordable.
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With a better display resolution ofc. Is that a good thing or a bad thing for you? Because I think It's awesome to have a tablet like that at this price tag. I'll refresh my Nexus 7 with the new one as soon as I can since it's extremely affordable.
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I have a Nexus 4, no Nexus 7. Have an iPad 3 but want something more portable so don't know if I should get the new N7 or wait for an iPad Mini update. Tied into both ecosystems, but if I go all Android, there's a lot of money wasted on iOS apps.
Also, how do you change names? My girlfriend set this up but doesn't use the account anymore - or is it best to just start a new account?
You can either use multi-user functionality or detach current Google account from tablet and set it up with a new one again.
Nexus 7 is also really portable. It fits into my back pocket and I'm going to everywhere with it without any hassle. iPad 3 in the other hand it's a gigantic device compared to Nexus 7 because it's bigger than 10" and also it has a 4:3 display makes it even more harder to carry around with ease.
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You can either use multi-user functionality or detach current Google account from tablet and set it up with a new one again.
Nexus 7 is also really portable. It fits into my back pocket and I'm going to everywhere with it without any hassle. iPad 3 in the other hand it's a gigantic device compared to Nexus 7 because it's bigger than 10" and also it has a 4:3 display makes it even more harder to carry around with ease.
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Pretty sure he is referring to his XDA screen name.
Just make a new account, doesn't take long.
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Pretty sure he is referring to his XDA screen name.
Just make a new account, doesn't take long.
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You could also email the administrator.
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So can one use the Steps to Flash the Android 4.3 Build [Clean FLASH or Retention of Data /w Flash], for the N7? IOW: Will this N4 procedure work on the N7?
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So can one use the Steps to Flash the Android 4.3 Build [Clean FLASH or Retention of Data /w Flash], for the N7? IOW: Will this N4 procedure work on the N7?
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This thread is discussing the new nexus 7, however many nexus operations are similar, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Just make sure to use the proper filenames for your device.
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Also, how do you change names? My girlfriend set this up but doesn't use the account anymore - or is it best to just start a new account?
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You could try asking an admin, but your best bet would be to just create your own account.
I would say yes but this devicenis more capable. I know LG is known for thermal throttling on their mobile phone line. Those constraints won't apply to this new device. Its able to run hotter longer. So even if not stock, once Roms come out, this device/processor can be pushed alot more than in a phone.
Btw, I disabled thermal throttling. On my LG optimus G pro with Snapdragon 600 and Andreno 320. It runs great. So the S4 can be easily pushed past stock limits with no problem.
Eh, its smooth enough. Really no lag at all, but then again, I never had the 1st Nexus 7, so I don't know if that lagged at all. Overall, I couldn't care less whats inside as long as its smooth and fast for the user (me). The ipad mini has 1/4 the power of this, and it runs just as smooth.
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Isn't this just practically the same spec as the N4? Same CPU, same amount of RAM, GPU etc. etc.?
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Yup it's an oversized N4, just like an iPad is an oversized iPod/iPhone.
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Yup it's an oversized N4, just like an iPad is an oversized iPod/iPhone.
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Except Google actually used a good screen.
NO there internals are different
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Isn't this just practically the same spec as the N4? Same CPU, same amount of RAM, GPU etc. etc.?
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NO there internals are different
Snapdragon s4 pro (1.5GHZ) = uses krait 200 cores
snapdragon 600 (1.7GHZ) = uses krait 300 cores
Nexus 4 SOC - (APQ8064) = four Krait 200 cores + 2GB LPDDR2 RAM +Adreno 320
Nexus 7 SOC - (APQ8064–1AA) = four krait 300 cores which are underclocked + 2GB DDR3L-1600MHz SDRAM + Adreno 320
so basically the New Nexus 7 uses a underclocked Snapdragon 600
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NO there internals are different
Snapdragon s4 pro (1.5GHZ) = uses krait 200 cores
snapdragon 600 (1.7GHZ) = uses krait 300 cores
Nexus 4 SOC - (APQ8064) = four Krait 200 cores + 2GB LPDDR2 RAM +Adreno 320
Nexus 7 SOC - (APQ8064–1AA) = four krait 300 cores which are underclocked + 2GB DDR3L-1600MHz SDRAM + Adreno 320
so basically the New Nexus 7 uses a underclocked Snapdragon 600
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Source please?
I read something like this already, but I'm a bit skeptical about it. Why would Google advertise the lower spec than they actually are?
If this is true, than it's a gamechanger as krait 300 cores are some 30-40% faster than their older (krait200) brothers.
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Source please?
I read something like this already, but I'm a bit skeptical about it. Why would Google advertise the lower spec than they actually are?
If this is true, than it's a gamechanger as krait 300 cores are some 30-40% faster than their older (krait200) brothers.
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i believe they claim that it's a s4 pro because of it clockspeed alone, most phones out today which use the snapdragon 600 soc have 1.7ghz + clockspeeds
Sources
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-2013-s-4-pro-snapdragon-600-249594/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-2013-s-4-pro-snapdragon-600-249594/
Yea we have an underclocked S4 600. So its faster then the N4. Also the memory bus has been increased.
The N72 is faster then the N4 but probably nothing noticeable right now. Perhaps with KLP, the additional memory bus and newer CPU instructions might distance the N72 further away from the N4, but who knows.
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Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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First thing, there is always something better round the corner, so when this new chip comes out, there will be an even better one planned for 6 months time. Second, apart from the kick of having the best hardware, would you necessarily be using it?
I say that since the N4 doesn't have 4G (apart from the modem hacks which aren't valid for Europe, where I am). I don't miss it, since I don't have a need for ultra-fast data transmission on my phone.
If you really need/expect to use the possibilities that the hardware enables, if I were you, I would wait until a terminal is equipped with it. If it's not critical, I'd go for either the N6 or an equivalent hi-end Xiaomi or Oppo.
anees167 said:
Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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even if the hardware becomes outdated its still going to be strong enough for pretty much anything for couple of years but again If they put **** to mediocre battery life as usual then no thanks
Well it's the "perfect" useless 2K screen that's gonna eat up the battery. I hate QHD on 5-inchers.
You have good valid points but normally Qualcomm have updated their chips at a good rate and considering the fact on estimate around 4 months after the Nexus 6 release the chip would be a big difference in performance in every way and looking at their site. It will also have pretty cool featues
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In my opinion it's impossible to talk about buying/not buying the Nexus 6 as long as we have no official specs and before it is released
We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.
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n6 or google silver,hardware software to much confision but will be best again i guess
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We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.
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Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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Yeah, I know...
It's been a while since Motorola made a phone with a removable battery, and it's been a while since we've seen a Nexus with one.
My next phone, as soon as I can afford one, will most likely be a Sony Z3 Compact (although I might pick up a second Nexus 4 first). I love using big screens, but I hate carrying one. Months ago I was hoping to pick up a Z1 Compact and a OnePlus One. But life happened, and I can't afford those anymore, and even if I could, the Z3 is out soon, and the OPO...well...'nuff said. I still like the idea of having a smaller phone for daily life, then swapping the SIM to a phablet for gaming at home or reading eBooks. The Nexus 6 or S or whatever they end up calling it might just fill that spot if the price isn't absurd, but that'll probably have to wait until tax season.