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What makes the nexus 7 better than something like this:
http://www.futeko.com/products/TAB019.php
The nexus has more cores but the above is clocked higher. Anyone care to enlighten me?
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Core clock speeds don't really have a huge impact on performance. At this stage, I think more people need to learn that cores+clocks =/= performance (look at AMD processors vs Intel). Either way, the Tegra 3 is one of the most powerful ARM CPU's available, and will smash any dual-core processor besides the Qualcomm S4. It doesn't even matter if this one is clocked at 1.2/1.3 instead of 1.5, the performance output it similar. Just saves more power.
On top of that, the tablet you listed has the generic 1024x600 resolution, which is a much lower ppi than the 1280x800 of the Nexus 7.

Shorter battery life, lower resolution, probably heavy and cheaply made, not google product so (probably) wont get Jelly Bean

Plus no project butter, and anything made by a non Google affiliate is lacking in the software department.
Any noob can make a rom but it probably won't work as well as cm9.
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Another thing to add would be support, whether that ve from google or developers. That is a massive positive which can never be underestimated. The future is very bright for the nexus 7.
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billy no name tablet vs a Google nexus there is no comparison

The screen Res and quality, battery life, quad cores, user support, build quality, mali400 is old (still fast I guess) lower clocked ram ( nexus has 1333mhz I very much doubt that tab has anything near that speed), less interest from rom makers, slower updates to the Android OS. list is endless.
edit, that cheap tabs ppi is 170 nexus is a lot higher and it has no Bluetooth or GPS

So, n7 wins in almost every way besides cost and perhaps storage.
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MrJESUSatWork said:
So, n7 wins in almost every way besides cost and perhaps storage.
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all those extra upgrades and Google support is well worth the extra £60 or so.n7 rapes that pos

And no GPS!

Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro

Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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fredcorp6 said:
Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...

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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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fredcorp6 said:
Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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From anandtech:
[snapdragon 600] "This is quad core Krait 300 (as opposed to 200 in MSM8960 or APQ8064) which brings a 15 percent increase in IPC as well as higher clocks (from 1.5 to 1.7 GHz), for about 20–30 percent higher overall CPU performance"
20 - 30% So significant but not huge.

fredcorp6 said:
I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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I read on snapdragon s4 pro and compare it with spec of snapdragon 600 "the only" difference i got is memory technology, s4pro uses 533MHz LPDDR2 and 600 uses LPDDR3
Edit: our phone not made for benchmark, i read somewhere on google+ someone wrote about it.
Btw nexus is always behind in terms of benchmarking, but if you compare the smoothness even galaxy nexus is still so smooth.
Here is the link https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/Q1yVmqtubG9 its exynos4 saga by one of exynos cm maintainer, but he give a reason why our benchmark not as good as optimus G.
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Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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+1 Please

Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Well because sometimes its a good way of comparing the performance of 2 phones - unfortunately not the case with a nexus I've just learned. Eyeball is very subjective, benchmarks are not (well they shouldn't be!).
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lol @ benchmarks please welcome to technology soon as you bought the phone it was considered OLD !

But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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S4 Pro is still quick and i can see it being developed in devices for another 2+ years. i would safely assume low end tablets would also start using it when the price of these chips are reduced

Never cared about benchmarks, Even with the PCs I build. I over clock my pcs as much as possible for REAL WORLD usage and as long as they allow me to do everything I want and more and visually everything looks and feels fine and is stable, I'm good to go. Same applies with these phones. The nexus has top of the line internals and stock android allows this phone to be the way it was meant to. Now I have flashed asylum which is awesome, and I have used just about every kernel. I do notice differences in kernels “cough, matrix is the best, cough", but the differences are “seat of the pants" which is a curse in my opinion. Benchmarking stresses components, and at the price of these things why take a chance of shortening its life.
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tuilalnvinh said:
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need

CheesyNutz said:
benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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That is my point right there.
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CheesyNutz said:
benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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My G2x used to get pretty high benchmarks... I hated that phone.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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ksubedi said:
Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Yeah its my understanding that quadrant is also really easy to spoof
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AW: Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro
So far I can see only devices with Android 4.1, or less, score pretty high with Krait cores. We havn't any other phone with 4.2 and snapdragon CPU to compare fairly.

The dual core S3 in my Xperia S doesn't feel any difference to the quad core S4 Pro in my Nexus 4 in every day use so i aint going to lose any sleep.

The number I heard thrown around was 40% faster on paper, or theoretically. Real world applications that may translate to less but still somewhat significant depending on your use case.
The kicker is it seems to still be the Adreno 320, is that higher clocked than the S4 Pro? If not it's pushing more pixels in the HTC One.

[Q] nexus 4 vs moto x

I've always wondered, how is the moto x faster than the quad core nexus 4? is there a way in making the nexus 4 faster? thankks

idonttakedrugs said:
I've always wondered, how is the moto x faster than the quad core nexus 4? is there a way in making the nexus 4 faster? thankks
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why are you comparing a diesel powered car ( n4) with hybrid car ( moto x) ? even if you did now both are fast, smooth and work great for everything asked to do so .... cores dont really matter

fahadsul3man said:
why are you comparing a diesel powered car ( n4) with hybrid car ( moto x) ? even if you did now both are fast, smooth and work great for everything asked to do so .... cores dont really matter
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aint they the same processor though? the nexus 4 must have potential.......

idonttakedrugs said:
aint they the same processor though? the nexus 4 must have potential.......
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http://www.cnet.com/news/top-motorola-engineer-defends-moto-x-specs-q-a/

scream4cheese said:
http://www.cnet.com/news/top-motorola-engineer-defends-moto-x-specs-q-a/
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Hmm
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Good job on making Moto X only for US market......very smart decision -_-

Mashed_Potatoes said:
Good job on making Moto X only for US market......very smart decision -_-
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Nooo! Its come to the UK earlier this year! Its not us exclusive anymore. Moto maker is though ?
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They do not have the same processor. They do not have the same cores either.
Simply put the nexus 4 has krait 200 cores. The moto x has krait 300 cores.
The krait 300 cores are faster clock for clock than the 200. They also of course have a clockspeed advantage too.
All of Qualcomms crazy naming scheme aside. The moto x has basically a dual core S600 at 1.7ghz. Think HTC one m7 with two cores. And those two cores run at the their max frequency quite a bit often to boot....

User psx on nexus 4 and compare them
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Quick summary:
N4: APQ8064 Krait 200 quad core @1.5ghz
MX: MSM8960DT Krait 300 dual core @1.7ghz
2013 N7: APQ8064AA Krait 300 quad core @1.5ghz
S4: APQ8064AC Krait 300 quad core @1.9ghz
S5: MSM8974ACv3 Krait 400 quad core @2.45ghz
(the fact some are S4Pros and some are S600's means very little, it's mostly K200 vs K300)
The moto x / 2013 N7 / S4 are pretty closely matched perf wise, which makes sense as they're all the same platform.
If you jump two steps between S4Pro -> S600 -> S800 -> S801 then there's a fair sized perf change, much less so with a single step jump.
At stock clocks I dont feel my S4 or 2013 N7 are dramatically faster then my N4.
It's merely that the N4 has the shortest battery life of the 3 (both relative and obviously absolute)
If you OC your N4, you could easily catch up in raw cpu power (if you ignore the fact that you could OC the other device too).
I wouldnt be too surprised if a K200 @~2.0-2.2+ ghz would equal a K300 @1.7-1.9ghz, though you'd shorten battery life even more on a already short life device.
If you could magically OC a N4 to ~3ghz, I wouldnt be surprised if it could keep up with the S5, I also wouldnt be surprised if it dies in 5 mins.
The N4 is very disadvantaged when it comes to thermal throttling, since once it hits the heat ceiling it drops like 20% in performance so it doesnt overheat.
You could also do the heatsink hardmod if it was really important, it's a rather easy mod (if you dont mind the fact you need to take it apart to do)
All devices have a thermal ceiling, but the N4 is usually disadvantaged when it comes to that. It's far easier to hit it on a N4 then any other device.
You could also do the qcom dalvik+bionic mod, it improved benchmark scores on my N7 by 15% (but much less on my N4, also I said benchmark and not "performance", it's very hard to quantify general performance/smoothness)
I think there was a F2FS mod for the n4, if there is and it works you could dramatically improve storage speed if you use that.
Finally you could always throw random build.prop mods, placebo effects are always the best as far as cost/performance goes.
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scream4cheese said:
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Moto has generally simply been spinning for marketing.
The fact of the matter is that the MSM8960DT is basically varient of the APQ8064AB/Ax that has 2 cores instead of 4.
Devices newer then the MX also have similar coprocessors now to offload idle sensor work, it's a general part of the S800/801 platform.
There's nothing stopping a manu from including them with any equivilent quad core soc,
which is essentially what qcom did with their own coprocessors in the S800/801 platforms.
Battery life on it is about equal to it's APQ8064Ax cousins since they're obviously the same cpu.
Depending on the rom/kernel, you can turn 2 cores off on the N7/S4/whatver,
but you cant turn 2 more cores on the MX.

The moto x has a slightly faster cores and clock speed but as there are too less cores it is slower. The reason it seems faster is the software optimizations Motorola have included on the moto x. Things such as optimized dalvik and bionic and using F2FS. If you install these on the nexus 4 i think it will be quicker.
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THEBANDIT420 said:
The moto x has a slightly faster cores and clock speed but as there are too less cores it is slower. The reason it seems faster is the software optimizations Motorola have included on the moto x. Things such as optimized dalvik and bionic and using F2FS. If you install these on the nexus 4 i think it will be quicker.
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The nexus 4 is just not quicker no matter what you do.
Quad vs dual is irrelevant. There aren't hardly any workloads on mobile that even require four cores let alone max them out. And if you do its going to throttle very quick anyways.
Krait 300 cores are faster period. The moto x is faster period. The hardware is just faster.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/11
No software optimization or trickery. Krait 300 is just faster. It doesn't seem faster. It's faster.
Krait 200 was already a old core relatively speaking when the s4 pro came out. It is the same core as the last gen SoC in the s3 class devices. Just with a newer gpu basically.
Can't believe people are still having this silly discussion.

albundy2010 said:
The nexus 4 is just not quicker no matter what you do.
Quad vs dual is irrelevant. There aren't hardly any workloads on mobile that even require four cores let alone max them out. And if you do its going to throttle very quick anyways.
Krait 300 cores are faster period. The moto x is faster period. The hardware is just faster.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/11
No software optimization or trickery. Krait 300 is just faster. It doesn't seem faster. It's faster.
Krait 200 was already a old core relatively speaking when the s4 pro came out. It is the same core as the last gen SoC in the s3 class devices. Just with a newer gpu basically.
Can't believe people are still having this silly discussion.
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Yes krait 300 is faster than 200, around 20-30%. The fact the nexus 4 does have 2 more cores does make it faster and just because "There aren't hardly any workloads on mobile that even require four cores let alone max them out" doesn't mean the moto x is faster ( at least by my definition of the word). The nexus 4 already beats in benchmarks but if the moto x does beat the nexus in things such as UI its because of all Motorola's software optimizations like i mentioned before.
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Yes krait 300 is faster than 200, around 20-30%. The fact the nexus 4 does have 2 more cores does make it faster and just because "There aren't hardly any workloads on mobile that even require four cores let alone max them out" doesn't mean the moto x is faster ( at least by my definition of the word). The nexus 4 already beats in benchmarks but if the moto x does beat the nexus in things such as UI its because of all Motorola's software optimizations like i mentioned before.
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In the majority of benchmarks that moto X wins. It even beats the quad core s600 devices in many of them as well. Even giving up 50mhz on the gpu to them.
Throttling is a big deal. Those chips throttle quicker and their clockspeeds go way down. The moto X spends more time at the highest clocks.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/7
Overall no matter how you try and slice it. In the majority of use cases, real world and benchmarks. The moto X is faster
And it doesn't beat it in stuff like ui because of some optimization. It beats it because it is a significantly faster clock for clock and has a clockspeed advantage. And browsing around the ui doesn't use for cores on top of it all. You can easily show that on your nexus 4 with a custom kernel and setting it to dual core only.
It's faster because the platform is faster.

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In the majority of benchmarks that moto X wins. It even beats the quad core s600 devices in many of them as well. Even giving up 50mhz on the gpu to them.
Throttling is a big deal. Those chips throttle quicker and their clockspeeds go way down. The moto X spends more time at the highest clocks.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/7
Overall no matter how you try and slice it. In the majority of use cases, real world and benchmarks. The moto X is faster
And it doesn't beat it in stuff like ui because of some optimization. It beats it because it is a significantly faster clock for clock and has a clockspeed advantage. And browsing around the ui doesn't use for cores on top of it all. You can easily show that on your nexus 4 with a custom kernel and setting it to dual core only.
It's faster because the platform is faster.
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What benchmarks are these? I know the motox has great GPU performance (mostly as it's one of the few snap 600 with a 720p screen) but in CPU performance it usually is lower than quad core s600 devices. For example in geekbench. But yes the moto x is faster than many in real world performance but this is largely due to all Moto's software optimizations.
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What benchmarks are these? I know the motox has great GPU performance (mostly as it's one of the few snap 600 with a 720p screen) but in CPU performance it usually is lower than quad core s600 devices. For example in geekbench. But yes the moto x is faster than many in real world performance but this is largely due to all Moto's software optimizations.
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The article tells you what is used in it. Also for the gpu test many of them have offscreen testing as well which negates the resolution difference.
Again it's faster in many cases because the hardware is just faster period. Just as taking a HTC one m7 and a custom kernel with 2 cores disabled would be faster in real world performance as well compared to nexus 4.
Real world performance is not some micro level threaded benchmark test.

Nexus 6 or not

Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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First thing, there is always something better round the corner, so when this new chip comes out, there will be an even better one planned for 6 months time. Second, apart from the kick of having the best hardware, would you necessarily be using it?
I say that since the N4 doesn't have 4G (apart from the modem hacks which aren't valid for Europe, where I am). I don't miss it, since I don't have a need for ultra-fast data transmission on my phone.
If you really need/expect to use the possibilities that the hardware enables, if I were you, I would wait until a terminal is equipped with it. If it's not critical, I'd go for either the N6 or an equivalent hi-end Xiaomi or Oppo.

anees167 said:
Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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even if the hardware becomes outdated its still going to be strong enough for pretty much anything for couple of years but again If they put **** to mediocre battery life as usual then no thanks

Well it's the "perfect" useless 2K screen that's gonna eat up the battery. I hate QHD on 5-inchers.

You have good valid points but normally Qualcomm have updated their chips at a good rate and considering the fact on estimate around 4 months after the Nexus 6 release the chip would be a big difference in performance in every way and looking at their site. It will also have pretty cool featues
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In my opinion it's impossible to talk about buying/not buying the Nexus 6 as long as we have no official specs and before it is released

We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.

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n6 or google silver,hardware software to much confision but will be best again i guess

Planterz said:
We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.
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Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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Yeah, I know...
It's been a while since Motorola made a phone with a removable battery, and it's been a while since we've seen a Nexus with one.
My next phone, as soon as I can afford one, will most likely be a Sony Z3 Compact (although I might pick up a second Nexus 4 first). I love using big screens, but I hate carrying one. Months ago I was hoping to pick up a Z1 Compact and a OnePlus One. But life happened, and I can't afford those anymore, and even if I could, the Z3 is out soon, and the OPO...well...'nuff said. I still like the idea of having a smaller phone for daily life, then swapping the SIM to a phablet for gaming at home or reading eBooks. The Nexus 6 or S or whatever they end up calling it might just fill that spot if the price isn't absurd, but that'll probably have to wait until tax season.

[Q] Where should i buy my Galaxy s4, is galaxy s4 the best option ?

OK, i've been looking phones for days and 3 days ago i ordered a Galaxy s4 on Bestbuy for 500 $ ( tax included ).
I was going to buy a factory international unlocked verison on amazon for 350 $ ish , but i saw some bad reviews ( some say it's fake, some say it's refurbished ) and i decided rather just buy from bestbuy but it's been THREE days !!! they havent ship my phone yet.
Do you guys think i should just cancel the order and buy one from amazon or ebay for 350$, but i think those factory unlocked version doesn't have warranty at all !!
I need help !!

s4 its good phone u will enjoy:thumbup: and I always buy international version cos u get updates direct from samsung not from crappie networks
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If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.

noremac258 said:
If possible I would say buy a Nexus 5. The S4 is on a slower cpu, and I doubt we will get anything past Android L. The Nexus 5 is a strong device for the price, plus you do get months faster updates. You will probably get a few more updates over the S4. Both have comparable on-screen times despite a slight advantage for the S4. But you can swap out the battery for say a Zerolemon which would give a clear advantage over the Nexus 5. The Nexus 5 should have android L before December. All in all, I'd say go for the newer Nexus 5 for the Snapdragon 800's advantage in raw horsepower for games and general use.
When it comes down to it though go with your gut feeling and what is more important to you.
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How does 300mhz fast help.
"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "

Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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noremac258 said:
Actually it's an extra 1600mhz total plus an upgraded gpu for better graphical performance, for a lower price. Plus in white it's sexy. I wish I would have gotten a Nexus 5 over the S4, but I was in need of a new phone.
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Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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DeepankarS said:
Show me..all i can see is 2.3 vs 1.9 quad core.
Are you saying 400 for each core? :/ and thus 1600 difference?
21% times faster it is. Just that. I cant see how 1.9*121% make a difference.
And then what about the i9500? It has Octacore processor? Will you say it has 1.6*8? Lol.
And please dont forget the camera.
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There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon based chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.

noremac258 said:
There's 4 cores that means 400mhz per core. Therefore it's an increase of 1600mhz.
Also since the chips are both 28nm and on the same architecture, you can compare the mhz. You can't compare the Exynos soc to a Snapdragon pased chip because it's on a different architecture. It's like Amd vs Intel if you know those two.
Both cameras take good pictures. Not a huge difference between the two.
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But still the aggregate increase remains 21%.
Maths aint that tough brother. we are talking the same thing.
21% faster with no ext mem support, no IR blaster and tons of other features go missing. And still the wide acceptance and reputation of the S4 stands strong.
Plus here in India the S5 is almost the same price of a nexus 32gb. Why would one go for a "nexus" in that case too.
Plus Why not buy the google play edition Galaxy S4?
Where is the difference now mate? Just a processor. Camera, build quality, vendor reputation.??
Plus a S4 is A S4. Comparing processing speeds of different processors is no harm. Why do people then compare apple with samsung? Apple is still a dual core with a 1gb ram. So why are they bashed for hardware. I havent seen an iphone lag. (exclude i4 i4s)
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Tastes are tastes, everyone of us has different tastes among all other... First, Nexus 5 is faster for CPU frequency and GPU is more powerful than S4 (talking about I9505 that beats i9500), S5 is faster than Nexus 5.
How many guys among you may use Nexus 5 at its higher CPU frequency? How many hours battery lasts?
In my opinion, I used a Nexus 5 (with CM11 as my S4) and found that I can't notice any speed difference in normal and heavy use between its 2.3GHz CPU and my S4 with this frequencies: 1 core 1.67GHz, 2/3/4 core 1.45GHz. Even in games, S4 can run any game for Android without problems.
What about Cameras? What about S4's AMOLED vs N5's LCD? What about display density? And IR blaster?
Nexus 5 is more brute force and developer-like, not the best for multimediality.
S4's cameras shoot definitely better, display is superior, has IR led built-in if you want to command your IR devices like televisions, air conditioners, set top boxes, xbox etc. And it's not all [emoji6]
I was almost selling my device to buy Oneplus One, but I can't because I love my S4 guys, it's too perfect in my opinion.
Don't do always and only the "run for GHz", think about everything else too
There are also tons of other things to say, but it's late here and I'm sleepy [emoji42]
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