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I know it's not a real 4g but t-mobile uses HSPA+ 21Mbps and sell it as a 4g.
And all I know is gsm version of sgs2 comes with HSPA+ 21Mbps.
So probably verizion version would be 3g but t-mobile version would be 4g out of the box? Just out of curiosity.
Frankly no one knows, just guessing and speculation now
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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Until someone has the production ready device in hand and can examine the hardware, or Samsung/VZW release the product specs, there is nothing definite. Even if one could get ahold of pre-release software/firmware, there would be nothing that confirm nothing, just show you want pre-production models are using. So, if you want to continue speculation, the SGS2 will show up and make you 3 square meals a day, clean your house, teleport you to work, and shoot out rainbows and unicorns when you're feeling blue. Until actual device specs come out, it's anyone's guess as to what the SGS2 will be like on VZW.
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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kpark67 said:
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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VZW wouldn't be releasing the same device as T-Mobile anyways, because of GSM vs. CDMA. So who's to say that VZW wouldn't put in an LTE radio in their version now? The 10.1 Tab will be LTE on VZW in July and has the same slim form factor. I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for the SGS II
You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec. So I just guess that would happen again for sgs2. Also samsung can put lte modem for function(verizon). But news release in Korea indicate samsung release first lte version of sgs2 for Korean market on september. Even if samsung could make lte version of sgs2 before september then what about the droid charge? if verizon release function with lte within a few months it's gonna go over $350 with 2 yr contract cause charge is $300.
Anyway it's gonna be very interesting.
I would think if anything, the Charge would drop in price and the SGS II would take it's place, price-wise
Yep. That would make sense.
l just hope it would stay within price range I can afford.
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You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec.
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ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
Google Samsung Function. There is a speculated spec sheet right on top. Also includes pics.
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ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
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There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
The Fascinate also came out nearly 2 months after T-Mobile's Vibrant. Long story short, what other carriers do or don't do is completely irrelevant to us.
As long as I remember all 4 variants of galaxy s fo US market have 512mb ram. What I remember is system info (quadrant) on captivate shows around 340mb something which is almost same as fascinate.
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There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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With the latest roms available I would easily be satisfied with the fascinate for another two years if only it had a little more ram. Ram is really my only complaint at all with this phone.
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At first I was thinking 3G since they couldn't fit an LTE radio. But they managed to squeeze one in the 8.6mm GTab 10.1, so maybe they can here too. Even if they have to make it 8.6mm thin, I won't care, it'll be an awesome device. Unless Verizon Bings this one.
It would be nice, but it would call for some heavy duty changes by Samsung engineering wise. Have you noticed the sheer size of the lte phones? The whole lte system doesn't have the whole system on a chip it and it requires two separate radios, which is why it allows talk and surfing. This would make the galaxy s2 pretty huge unless Samsung has created an lte system on a chip for this phone.
According to the leaked rumored spec sheet, 4G will be included. Here is the link below.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Function_id5535
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I'm seeing news stories today about the Telus Samsung Fascinate 3G+ in Canada getting the 2.3.3 update officially.
Since the Telus Fascinate hardware is so similar to that of the Vibrant, this seems to bode well for the Vibrant getting the update as well.
If nothing else, the ROM probably would port to the Vibrant more smoothly than the I9000 ROM, I would think.
Check out this link.
What makes you think its more similar than i9000
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younix258 said:
What makes you think its more similar than i9000
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From the Galaxy S Wikipedia Article: "The Telus Galaxy S Fascinate is very similar to the T-Mobile USA Galaxy S Vibrant (SGH-T959)".
Seams good, need some one to extract gps drivers and test if it works.
More to show that it is T-Mobile's fault
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it wont work. Its cosmetically the same as the vibrant but the insides are identical to the i9000. The only thing that sets the vibrant apart from the other galaxy s devices is its hardware radio. It and the SGS4G are the only sgs phones that have 1700mhz umts/hsdpa. because of this they have to use a completely different radio that supports it.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/07/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-canadian-carriers/
Update: Sure enough, Mobilicity is also onboard, which along with Wind Mobile makes it pretty clear that T-Mobile-friendly AWS frequencies are baked in.
We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
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We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
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Well now, you can get one with AWS Bands without waiting till like.... October/November on Tmo..
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We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
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Yup. The real question is the US gonna get the nerfed version. I want no part of that.
So is it going to be like the Galaxy Nexus where you could buy the Canadian version which was the same phone.. Will the Canadian phone be same but with the 1700 band or will there b differences?
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To each their own.
I have not read anywhere that the international version, i9300, is a pentaband HSDPA phone. Also, GSMArena has it listed as a quad band so it will not work on T-Mobiles 4G network. It looks like if/when it does come to T-Mo, it will need to be a customized version.
Prob a customized Canadian version...
The good news is that Tmo users do not need to wait another 6 months till the SGS III comes out in Tmo
Any idea on whether this will have the same processor as the international version?
I'm betting it will have a s4 processor. I hope I'm wrong....
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Mobilicity doesn't have LTE. we just have wait and see, what they do to the phone.
This just means a custom aws version will also be released. Doesn't look like the international version has T-Mobile hspa. So it will probably not come with the exynos CPU etc.
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I'm betting it will have a s4 processor. I hope I'm wrong....
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what's wrong with the S4 Qualcomn?
it;s as beefy as any of the new SOC, even faster than the nVidia Tegra
I personally would like the GSM NA variants to be as close to the international version as possible. Mostly because of the ease of porting custom ROMs. And I really do like my GT-I9100's physical home button. Hope that makes it over, but I doubt it (the NA models never had it, so getting one on the GS3 will break the design/UI continuity).
so how does one go about getting Mobilicity or wind mobile's gs3? bestbuy.ca doesnt ship outside of Canada. some carrier's website dont let you buy phone @ full price.
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so how does one go about getting Mobilicity or wind mobile's gs3? bestbuy.ca doesnt ship outside of Canada. some carrier's website dont let you buy phone @ full price.
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that's why you need contacts and/or friends in different countries to help you for these kind of stuff
also mentioned in this other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26224887
hi everyone ...
just got my galaxy siii and loving it... wondering which development forum is for the Canadian bell phone SGH-1747m ...
thanx
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there isn't one so far but there is a thread that may be of interest to you:fingers-crossed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1735482
Bell version is the same as AT&T regarding the hardware so it should be in the same forum.
Evantually everyone will realize that every SGH-I747M is the same and everything that works for one will work for the others. I have the first Galaxy S I9000m and I've flashed so much I9000 stuff you wouldn't believe it.
As long as the model number is the same the hardware is the same and you don't have to worry about carrier.
The only thing that will change is the modem software will be configured differently from carrier to carrier but as long as it's the same model number (I747M) it means the antenna inside is the same so you would still be able to connect even if you flashed an AT&T modem but reception might be little different.
I can't wait to get my hand on a GS 3. I should get it this week end.
Hi guys I am interested to buy international lte galaxy note 2 (gt-n7105) .I stay in us I dont want to stick with at&t galaxy note 2 just because updates are very slow and support is very frustrating.till date we didn't get the update for multi app Window which is one of the unique features in note 2 .can u suggest me a place or website where I can buy the note 2 lte (gt-n7105) in us .
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sush143555 said:
Hi guys I am interested to buy international lte galaxy note 2 (gt-n7105)
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Hmm
sush143555 said:
Hi guys I am interested to buy international lte galaxy note 2 (gt-n7105) .I stay in us I dont want to stick with at&t galaxy note 2 just because updates are very slow and support is very frustrating.till date we didn't get the update for multi app Window which is one of the unique features in note 2 .can u suggest me a place or website where I can buy the note 2 lte (gt-n7105) in us .
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I recently bought one from www.android-enjoyed.com and they shipped from hongkong to me. It's perfect and in a sealed box. Also available at www.gsmnation.com. Price is the factor which vendor to go with. Check if at&t support the LTE bandwidth (800, 1800, 2600). Good luck.
unless you're going to be staying a lot in Europe, the N7105 isn't going to be a particularly better phone for you with its Euro/ETSI bands for LTE. The Note2 is multiband GSM and 3G (UMTS) anyway.
And LTE isn't fully deployed across Europe either, so by the time it is, the Note3 will be here, so I would say buy a cheaper Note2-7100 and save your money!
Or buy an US variant and flash a custom ROM on it.
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sush143555 said:
Hi guys I am interested to buy international lte galaxy note 2 (gt-n7105) .I stay in us I dont want to stick with at&t galaxy note 2 just because updates are very slow and support is very frustrating.till date we didn't get the update for multi app Window which is one of the unique features in note 2 .can u suggest me a place or website where I can buy the note 2 lte (gt-n7105) in us .
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Just as Victorator mentioned, just get the AT&T Note 2 and flash international firmware onto it. The N7105's LTE hardware is not compatible with domestic North American LTE service, so it won't work. Fortunately, the AT&T/Rogers i317(m) Note 2's are virtually identical to the N7105 from a hardware standpoint, with the exceptions of differing LTE radios and lack of FM radio in the case of the North American Note 2's. That's why it's so easy to flash the international firmware onto them.
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hpacura said:
I recently bought one from www.android-enjoyed.com and they shipped from hongkong to me. It's perfect and in a sealed box. Also available at www.gsmnation.com. Price is the factor which vendor to go with. Check if at&t support the LTE bandwidth (800, 1800, 2600). Good luck.
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Niether of those are selling cheap N7105 compared to
www.negrielectronics.com
Who are also more suitably based for the OP in the US.
The 7105 LTE bands aren't the US bands but alot are buying the 7105 for its faster 3G capabilities (DC HSPA+) rather than for its 4G
Not sure whether its an advantage to have that feature in US though.
For the International version N7100, if I put in the T-mobile sim, do I only get "edge" and not "3G" ?
And with AT&T, do I at least get the 4G? I am debating to either get the AT&T one of the international one.
benzso63 said:
For the International version N7100, if I put in the T-mobile sim, do I only get "edge" and not "3G" ?
And with AT&T, do I at least get the 4G? I am debating to either get the AT&T one of the international one.
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I'm in the same boat. I'm moving from Japan to the America, and I have an unlocked N2 with docomo. I knew off the bat that the LTE wouldn't be compatible, but didn't even consider the 3G. Hate to have such an awesome device on an ancient network.
I am using AT&T myself. I just want to make sure with the N7100 international unlocked version. Will I get 4G , I know LTE is out of luck.
Can anyone confirm this?
D1G1N1XY said:
I'm in the same boat. I'm moving from Japan to the America, and I have an unlocked N2 with docomo. I knew off the bat that the LTE wouldn't be compatible, but didn't even consider the 3G. Hate to have such an awesome device on an ancient network.
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Almost same here. I will be coming to the US next month with international N7100 unlocked.
And I am wondering which provider will give me maximum speeds (AT&T or TMo or someelse like Straighttalk)
sids911 said:
Almost same here. I will be coming to the US next month with international N7100 unlocked.
And I am wondering which provider will give me maximum speeds (AT&T or TMo or someelse like Straighttalk)
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If you have the INT GT-N7100 then you will want to use AT&T but go with Straight Talk they use att network. I use Straight Talk and get dl speeds of 6-8 up of about2-4. And its cheaper than att.
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